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  2. I once took a university course taught by Albert Einstein. It was a mistake. He graded on a curve, and his curves were such that after one exam I ended up on a parallel universe.
  3. Perhaps one could live in an L5 orbit around the planet and have Scoop Ships dip down into the atmosphere at high speed to get raw materials! ... might be a good place to get reaction mass for those fusion engines, and warp drive it would take to get there in less than several tens of thousands of years at sub-light speeds.
  4. I missed that part.... I guess they will need to redefine the word "habitable" for these type of searches and proclamations
  5. Oh Joy! A planet with 6.1 times the mass of the Earth ! That means I will weigh almost a full ton! Oh Joy!
  6. By the way .. there is no such thing as " the dark side of the moon, any more that Africa can be referred to as "the dark Continent", meaning it lacks sunlight. The Moon rotates on it's axis about once every 28 days, as it is tideally locked with the Earth, but the BACK side of the moon gets as much light as the side that we see. China is the first to land on the dark side of the moon , is a common misnomer. They were the first to land on the BACK side of the Moon, as seen from Earth.
  7. If you are taking a picture of a Surfer on a beach, with the sun behind him, by using different focal length lenses, you can change the effect of how large the sun is behind the surfer, from a brilliant speck, to a disc as big as a steering wheel. People ignorant of photographic effects and technology often have very strong opinions about things they know NOTHING about.
  8. This is silly ... and as valid as Monty Python's "Life of Brian", or other "documentaries". Everyone KNOWS the entire trip to the moon, and moon landing was done on a movie set and sound stage on Mars.
  9. I hope we are once again in a "Space Race" ... with the moon program of yesteryear, every dollar invested in technology and research shot into space yielded a HUNDRED FOLD, and more, wide range of benefits on Earth. Short-sighted, uneducated people do not know, or understand this. The classic example is it took about 200,000 people in Tennessee, and Washington State, and New Mexico, and many other places to develop the Atomic Bomb. About 350,000 people were killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and in building and testing the Bomb. Since 1945 ... Perhaps a hundred million people's lives have been saved by doctors using the tools developed by being able to understand radiation as a new tool. The computer and monitor you are reading this on was developed using things learned when they needed... needed to invent integrated circuits for the Apollo Space Craft navigation computers, because transistors were just too big. I remember when the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, in a publication we studied in the "Tuesday Night Book-Study" in the 60's said that computers would NEVER have the power that even your Smart Phone has now ... BECAUSE it would take all the water that goes over Niagara Falls to keep it cool. All that happened because of the moon program, of yesteryear.
  10. They are trying to steal the thunder from the Chinese.... literally hours before.... history repeating itself... I think we are back in a space race...
  11. End of June we await the largest lunar eclipse EVER...., Solar and Lunar Eclipses in 2019 There'll be something for everybody in 2019, with total, annular, and partial solar eclipses — and total and partial lunar eclipses to look forward to. Up to seven eclipses of the Sun and Moon can take place in one year, though the last time that happened was 1982, and the fewest possible is four. The mix of five events occurring in 2019 is especially interesting, because no two will be alike! There'll be three different types of solar eclipse — one each of partial, annular, and total — along with a total and a partial lunar eclipse. It's been more than three years since everyone in the U.S. has experienced a total lunar eclipse — the last one was September 27–28, 2015 — and skygazers are hungry for another! As the graphic at right shows, the eclipse will last almost 3½ hours from the beginning of the partial phase at 3:34 UT until it ends at 6:51 UT. Totality lasts 63 minutes, from 4:41 to 5:44 UT. The timing of this one, with mid-eclipse at 5:12 UT, gives everyone in North America a ringside seat — though it'll be a late night for anyone on the East Coast. As veteran skywatcher Joe Rao notes in Sky & Telescope's January issue, the eclipsed Moon will appear high in a mid-winter sky, and this event occurs on the Sunday night of a 3-day holiday weekend in the U.S. So if it's clear that night, you'll have no (good) excuse for skipping this wonderful celestial event. The diagram at upper right and the table below show you what to look for and when (UT times are all for January 21st; local times are on the 20th if "p.m." and the 21st if "a.m."): https://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/solar-and-lunar-eclipses-in-2019/

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    • Some good points there Srecko. It was obviously God who decided when it was ok to kill, based on laws that superseded the command not to kill. The question then is, when it comes to shunning, who decides when it's ok to shun and when it is not ok? Or is there something that supersedes the command to shun? First I want to address this comment you made: I understand the parallels you are trying to draw. There are many examples in history of family members disowning other family members, cutting them off as if the other person no longer exists. In these instances it is humans that make their own personal law. Sometimes it's based on understandable reasons, (extreme evilness on the part of the one who is being disowned) and sometimes on purely frivolous grounds (used as blackmail). Of course there are many many different reasons, too many to mention. I suppose this sounds reasonable. Usually when this situation occurs, the person is not in a disfellowshipped state. I have often thought about this problematic and I have still not found satisfactory justification for some of these actions. I can understand that a person guilty of breaking the Bible's commands and not repenting, or changing, should not be a part of the congregation. The congregation must be kept clean, otherwise Jesus "could vomit it out of his mouth". (Rev 3:16) He says "All those for whom I have affection, I reprove and discipline. So be zealous and repent" (Rev 3:19). And  "‘Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first. If you do not, I will come to you, and I will remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent". (Rev 2:5) and “‘Nevertheless, I have a few things against you, that you have there those adhering to the teaching of Baʹlaam......  So repent. If you do not, I am coming to you quickly, and I will war against them with the long sword of my mouth"  I think just those few scriptures in Revelation show clearly Jesus' feelings about keeping the congregation morally and spiritually clean. We also have Paul's counsel. However, we know that those who have not repented are not thrown out of the congregation literally, but symbolically. They can still attend the meetings if they want. But they cannot participate and speak to anyone. Why? Because they have been disfellowshipped. So in this sense they have been "removed" BUT by being able to still go to meetings they are able to receive Jehovah's instructions and come to repentance, and then be welcomed back. Now imagine if this person had literally been thrown out, and was not allowed to put foot inside the KH. How would they be able to "repent and come back"? How would that work in practice? So in this sense, disfellowshipping is a merciful and loving provision, because the person is still able to receive spiritual instruction. But if they weren't disfellowshipped, and everyone would speak with them, then there would be no difference at all would there? Now the questions I ask is, it makes sense for the congregation, but how is it outside the congregation? This is where I find the difficulty. There are several things to consider. One is; are we Christians only inside the congregation, or are we Christians 24/7? Obviously we are Christians all of the time. So we could argue that whatever applies inside the congregation should also apply outside of it. Then there is the family. Frequently there is a misunderstanding in what family means. The broad definition is "a group of people who share common ancestors" a more usual definition is "group of people that may be made up of partners, children, parents, aunts, uncles, cousins and grandparents" then the classic definition, and the ones JW mean when they say family is; "a group consisting of parents and children living together in a household" It's also called the nuclear family. We know that members of a household or nuclear family are not shunned. Only those living outside the household.  I am ok with that, but I think that associating with family living outside the household should be left up to conscience, (your first conclusion). That is just my opinion. So is there something that supersedes the command to shun? (this is for anyone to answer, not just Srecko)         The basics are in the Bible, for anyone to see
    • The great thing about that, being Jesus, he  did not have to use a 2x4" timber upside the mule's head to get him to talk!
    • ...... some days you pick the strawberries ...... ...... some days the strawberries pick you ....
    • there really shouldn't be, especially if you read the whole sentence I wrote. Here, I'll save you the time from searching for it: I find jw's foolish because they follow the ideas of men, which changes to suit those in the power tower.  lol,   we......lol
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