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  2. Actually, TTH, since you do not know enough even to form an internal opinion, as you yourself admitted, you are particularly unqualified to render an educated opinion on whether I, or JWI is the most informed. All "Global Warming" prognostications are based on say 15 computer models, and information is adjusted, managed, and tweaked to make the models say whatever agrees with the source of funding. JWI was, and is correct in his statement that I know more about the subject than he does ... and more to the point, I can PROVE my conclusions. This would involve charts, graphs, pocket calculators, and lectures on cosmology, orbital mechanics, physics heat transfer, and a dozen other subjects, that most people are never even exposed to .... much less have an understanding and a working knowledge of. You are like a feather, blowing in the wind ... wishing that EVERYBODY was as uninformed, wrong, and wishy-washy as you are. You cannot vote ...... on TRUTH.
  3. He does not know more about it than you. He knows things about it that you do not. And you do not know more about it than he. You know things about it that he does not. It is due to the reality of news sources that do not cover the same facts, each ignoring what does not fit into its prevailing narrative. I can best explain it by referring to a topic I have stronger feelings about. I am undecided about climate change. As stated, the biggest factor for it, in my view, is that the organization has said it is devoting so much more to disaster relief. Not surprisingly, when a white police officer shoots a black suspect, the event is widely covered. Other shootings are not so widely covered. Sometimes they are barely mentioned. Thus comes the perception that white officers are racist and hostile to blacks. Yet a study of the Philadelphia police force during the Obama administration found the statistics revealed no significant aberrations with regard to race. In fact, the stats revealed that black officers were slightly more likely to shoot black suspects than were white officers. They were slightly more likely to experience "threat misperception," was the phrase. So a picture emerges via media that does not reflect the whole truth. It even serves to create a wrong impression. Does such a thing happen with regard to climate change? That recent year when major hurricanes hit Florida and Texas? It was pronounced significant evidence of global warming. Yet the total number of hurricanes that year was abnormally low. Do we see a weather version of "If it bleeds, it leads?" Everyone must do something to sort through the polarized information streams. My own strategy is that, whenever I follow anything on Twitter, I make it a point to also follow its polar opposite. In this way, there are two or three things popularly regarded as almost conspiracy theories that I have come to regard as quite likely. It is not the case that all the scientists are on the side of climate change. What happens is the same as what happens during physical warfare: efforts to dehumanize the enemy. The climate change scientists declare the other scientists not scientists at all, because if they were scientists they would come on board with climate change. If you follow both sides on Twitter you find the 'conspiracy' side well argued, well researched, with abundant studies, data, facts to support statements made. They do not at all come across as the unhinged crackpots they are portrayed as. The pro side tends to be more like.....like....well, like Billy, who froths that the matter is "settled" and that only a science apostate would contradict "established science." I don't think that it is settled at all. Recently a disheartening Pew report related that today's reality goes beyond people not agreeing on the facts. Today's reality is that people do not agree on what the facts are. With no common starting point they can be no agreement. It is very different to get to the bottom of anything, and usually one can identify a person's primary opinions by the news sources he takes in. They report on different things.
  4. Yes, Jehovah wants us to remember them in our prayers and otherwise; though they might not be able to read any thing from us for some time. (No electricity, lost books due to water damage, etc) Reminds me of this scripture: (1 Corinthians 10:13) No temptation has come upon you except what is common to men. But God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear, but along with the temptation he will also make the way out so that you may be able to endure it. The time is near when God will ruin those who are ruining the earth. (Rev 11:18) Jesus the King of God's Kingdom will be able to speak to the weather and say "Enough", as when he was on earth and his disciples were caught in a bad storm. Mark 4:38-41) 38 But he was in the stern, sleeping on the pillow. So they woke him up and said to him: “Teacher, do you not care that we are about to perish?” 39 With that he got up and rebuked the wind and said to the sea: “Hush! Be quiet!” And the wind abated, and a great calm set in. 40 So he said to them: “Why are you so afraid? Do you not yet have any faith?” 41 But they felt an unusual fear, and they said to one another: “Who really is this? Even the wind and the sea obey him.”
  5. Thats the sad catastrophe in NORTHERN - MOZAMBIQUE ;-( We are all united in prayers for you! Have courage, do not give up, just a little bit and all that will be over, may God continue to shine and protect Jehovah, and bless them very much! A big hug for you all! LETS PRAY FOR ALL, first our dear Brothers ❤ .•*¨`*•..¸♥☼♥¸.•*¨`*•. ❤
  6. God's idea of soon could be hundreds of years from now. There is not one 'religion' serving God properly right now, so Judgement Day is still a long way off. All the horror pictures used by the GB and JW Org are just bullying tactics to frighten people. What a way to try to teach people the 'truth'. The JW Org needs cleaning out if God is going to use it, so don't hold your breath over Armageddon.
  7. When will God’s Kingdom come? WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? • No one knows • Soon • Never WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS : “This good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14) Once the good news has been fully preached, the Kingdom will come to bring the present wicked system to an end. WHAT ELSE WE LEARN FROM THE BIBLE • No one on earth knows exactly when God’s Kingdom will come.—Matthew 24:36. • Bible prophecy shows that the Kingdom will come soon.—Matthew 24:3, 7, 12.
  8. Now is this an attack on the 'serving of God' side of the religion, or, is it an attack against the Child Abuse side of the religion ? The JW Org is now in that unfortunate position of not knowing. It would be so easy for them to say that it is persecution of the 'true religion' and coming from the devil etc..... But in fact it may be because of all the media news Earthwide about the Child Abuse within the JW Org. It would be good if the attackers would give reasons for the attacks. By the way, i don't think this is good news. I don't agree with this type of destructive and dangerous action. I don't agree with violence or anti social behavior. I hope all the people are ok and it would be good to think that all the Elders are doing shepherding work to look after the 'flock'. Older congregants and maybe even some young ones may be frightened by it all.
  9. jw_servants "Put on the complete suit of armor from God so that you may be able to stand firm against the crafty acts of the Devil" ~ Eph 6:11 By legofigure
  10. Local and federal authorities are investigating a string of acts of violence against Jehovah’s Witness houses of worship in Washington state ― including multiple suspected arsons. The latest attack gutted a Jehovah’s Witness building in the city of Lacey, near Olympia. The fire reportedly broke out . No injuries were reported, but the building was deemed a total loss, . The Seattle division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has . BREAKING: A fire has destroyed the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Lacey. This is the SIXTH attack on Kingdom Hall’s in Thurston County since March. Five fires, one shooting. — Alex Rozier () The fire in Lacey brings the total number of attacks in Thurston County against Jehovah’s Witness centers, called kingdom halls, to six this year, . In March, arson caused minor damage at kingdom halls in Tumwater and Olympia. Four months later, a blaze worship space. In August investigators discovered a fake bomb at a kingdom hall in Yelm, . The incident was determined to be an attempted arson. In May someone shot about 35 rifle rounds into the Yelm center, causing more than $10,000 in property damage, . Jason Chudy, a spokesperson for the ATF’s Seattle field division, told HuffPost that the organization believes all the incidents could be related. The attacks were probably “meant to send a message,” he said. “We believe that the suspect or suspects has or have a grievance related to the Jehovah’s Witness community, or about another issue they think is important,” he wrote in an email. “Before these fires, the person or persons involved are likely to have shared these strong feelings with others through comments and conversation.” Chudy said the ATF also believes that the suspect or suspects may have exhibited changes in behavior in the hours, days, weeks or months since the fires, including unexplained injuries, changes in normal routines and dramatic and unexplained altering of physical appearance. The ATF is investigating the incidents, along with Thurston County police. Investigators are offering $36,000 in combined rewards for information that leads to a suspect’s capture. During a press conference on Friday, Thurston County Sheriff John Snaza urged the public to call in with tips. “It makes you feel really ill,” . “How frustrating is it that people who find a solemn place of worship, and now it’s being destroyed?” Dan Woollett, a member of the kingdom hall in Lacey, that the important thing is that congregants are safe. “It’s just a building ― buildings can be replaced,” he said. “Things can be redone. So we just move ahead with the ministry that we have that we’re involved with.”
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  11. I remember many years ago a friend telling me, when I asked her about someone who showed interest on her: "You know what? if I don't see a JW brother fulfilling these requirements, he wouldn't be a good catch, if he does not have the qualities that God expects from a male servant I don't think he could fulfill with responsabilities of marriage: The First to Timothy 3 This statement is trustworthy: If a man is reaching out to be an overseer,+ he is desirous of a fine work. 2 The overseer should therefore be irreprehensible, a husband of one wife, moderate in habits, sound in mind,*+orderly, hospitable,+ qualified to teach,+ 3 not a drunkard,+ not violent,*but reasonable,+ not quarrelsome,+ not a lover of money,+ 4 a man presiding over* his own household in a fine manner, having his children in subjection with all seriousness+ 5 (for if any man does not know how to preside over* his own household, how will he care for the congregation of God?), 6 not a newly converted man,+ for fear that he might get puffed up with pride and fall into the judgment passed on the Devil. 7 Moreover, he should also have a fine testimony* from outsiders+ so that he does not fall into reproach* and a snare of the Devil. 8 Ministerial servants should likewise be serious, not double-tongued,*not indulging in a lot of wine, not greedy of dishonest gain,+ 9 holding the sacred secret of the faith with a clean conscience.+ 10 Also, let these be tested as to fitness* first; then let them serve as ministers, as they are free from accusation. Is This Person Right for Me? Would He Make a Good Husband for Me? Character Basics □ How does he handle any authority he may have?—Matthew 20:25, 26. □ What are his goals?—1 Timothy 4:15. □ Is he now working toward those goals?—1 Corinthians 9:26, 27. □ How does he treat his family?—Exodus 20:12. □ Who are his friends?—Proverbs 13:20. □ What does he talk about?—Luke 6:45. □ What is his attitude toward money?—Hebrews 13:5, 6. □ What type of entertainment does he enjoy?—Psalm 97:10. □ How does he demonstrate his love for Jehovah?—1 John 5:3. Assets □ Is he industrious?—Proverbs 6:9-11. □ Is he financially responsible?—Luke 14:28. □ Is he well reported on?—Acts 16:1, 2. □ Is he considerate of others?—Philippians 2:4. Danger Signs □ Is he disposed to anger?—Proverbs 22:24. □ Does he try to involve you in sexual misconduct?—Galatians 5:19. □ Is he physically or verbally abusive?—Ephesians 4:31. □ Does he need to use alcohol to have a good time?—Proverbs 20:1. □ Is he jealous and self-centered?—1 Corinthians 13:4, 5. [Box/Picture on page 40] Worksheet Would She Make a Good Wife for Me? Character Basics □ How does she show submissiveness in the family and the congregation?—Ephesians 5:21, 22. □ How does she treat her family?—Exodus 20:12. □ Who are her friends?—Proverbs 13:20. □ What does she talk about?—Luke 6:45. □ What is her attitude toward money?—1 John 2:15-17. □ What are her goals?—1 Timothy 4:15. □ Is she now working toward those goals?—1 Corinthians 9:26, 27. □ What type of entertainment does she enjoy?—Psalm 97:10. □ How does she demonstrate her love for Jehovah?—1 John 5:3. Assets □ Is she industrious?—Proverbs 31:17, 19, 21, 22, 27. □ Is she financially responsible?—Proverbs 31:16, 18. □ Is she well reported on?—Ruth 3:11. □ Is she considerate of others?—Proverbs 31:20. Danger Signs □ Is she contentious?—Proverbs 21:19. □ Does she try to involve you in sexual misconduct?—Galatians 5:19. □ Is she verbally or physically abusive?—Ephesians 4:31. □ Does she need to use alcohol to have a good time?—Proverbs 20:1. □ Is she jealous and self-centered?—1 Corinthians 13:4, 5. [Picture on page 30] Not just any size shoe will fit; similarly, not just anyone will make a good partner Do you think it’s important to look beyond outward appearance when choosing a car? How much more so when choosing a marriage mate! Questions Young People Ask—Answers That Work, Volume 2 p. 28-29
  12. In February, a Russian court sentenced a Danish citizen who was a legal resident of Russia to six years in prison for such an extremist offence as organizing other Witnesses to shovel snow from their church’s property. A month later, Sergei Skrynnikov, a Russian and allegedly a Jehovah’s Witness, was charged with “participating in an extremist organization,” an offence under Russian law that could earn him up to six years in prison. Jehovah’s Witnesses have been fleeing Russia and seeking asylum in Germany and Finland to escape such harsh sentences. In China, state authorities harass Jehovah’s Witnesses and raid their meetings. Authorities also deport foreign Witness missionaries from countries such as South Korea. South Korea has only recently dropped a 2003 law prohibiting conscientious objection to fighting in its armed forces, a law that confined young Witness men — as well as other men — to jail. All these states violate international laws that protect religious freedom, including the freedoms of unpopular minorities. Article 18, 1 of the 1976 United Nations International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights protects everyone’s freedom to “have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice” and “to manifest his religion or belief in worship, observance, practice and teaching.” A long history of persecution Jehovah’s Witnesses were among the first groups the Nazis persecuted. There were about 25,000 to 30,000 Witnesses in Germany in 1933. About half of those who did not flee were convicted of various crimes and between 2,000 and 2,500 were sent to concentration camps, where about 1,000 died. About 250 were also executed. Some years ago I met a Jehovah’s Witness in the city where I live who told me the Nazis had beheaded his grandfather. Germany’s Jehovah’s Witnesses were not merely passive religious group that refused to adopt the Nazi ideology: they also actively tried to expose Nazi atrocities. In the 1960s and ‘70s in Malawi, entire villages of Jehovah’s Witnesses were burned, and many villagers were raped, tortured or murdered as they tried to flee. Their crime was refusal to participate in rituals of loyalty to the newly independent Malawian state and its president, Hastings Banda. The Malawi government denied me a visa in the early 1980s when I told its High Commission in Ottawa that I wanted to know what had happened to these Witnesses for research for my book, Human Rights in Commonwealth Africa. Many Witnesses in Rwanda, both Tutsi and Hutu, lost their lives during the 1994 genocide, many trying to hide people at risk of being murdered.Even now, Rwandan authorities expel some Witness children from school and have fired some Witness teachers because they refuse to sing the national anthem or participate in religious training. Persecution of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Canada Here in Canada, Jehovah’s Witnesses have not always enjoyed their rights to freedom of religion and expression. During the Second World War, Witness children were banned from schools in several locations because they would not salute the flag, sing the national anthem or repeat the pledge of allegiance. A Witness father sued the Hamilton Board of Education on behalf of his two sons, who had been expelled from school in 1940. In 1945, the Ontario Court of Appeal ruled in favour of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, saying the Board was required to excuse students from participating in religious exercises to which their parents objected Read more:
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  13. Given you know a lot and know nothing, it makes better sense to apply that pearl of wisdom to yourself. But thank you for proving my point.
  14. People here are welcome to have strong attitude and beliefs. Well, we all are problems, not solutions. :)))
  15. The reason I am not "sympathetic" to you Billy, is that if you found someone who knew EVERYTHING about any particular subject ... and you knew NOTHING about that same subject ... you would debate him. Sometimes ... you just need to sit down, shut up ... and listen.
  16. Apparently they did not get the Memo about "tight pants". I really do not know how they get their ankle and foot through those pants legs.
  17. Correct Srecko. Get off that high horse. TTH, JWinsider, and James love your kind and are kind-hearted and sympathetic to people like you. The problem they have is with people like me. They won’t hold back, as they do with your kind of people. So count your blessing that you are seen within their mirror. They believe, correcting the perception of what opposers offer as misguided proof, and being here is one in the same thing. Dirting your soul. TTH doesn’t see the difference, so you should feel what your name implies. So, you shouldn’t be hard on him. Both of you as well as the rest of us will be accountable to God. In many respects, scripture states sin is washed clean after death. The problem with that, while holding true, is meant for those that never knew God or his purpose. Those that did, God will decide through Christ. That’s a difference seldom thought of by witnesses. Therefore, what counts is your wife’s soul. That’s why this interaction between both of you is bizarre. I won’t offer scripture since it is meaningless according to TTH in this forum. I expect the same in return. Only “witness” is allowed to enter a barrage of Biblical citations without the condemnation of TTH. It offends him seeing it from others. Even though his new book is about TT vs the apostates, go figure. Would I speak with an atheist about climate change? Probably. I would like for him to explain how the climate has differed since the industrial age versus natural erosion. If he was a scientist, maybe I would get a good answer for a debate.
  18. @James Thomas Rook Jr. You'd be surprised of what truthers have to go through when dealing with people who are on the level of believing in a conspiracy to be an absolute, example, Alex Jones. This is no mission for Dilbert.
  19. JW USA: A Witness responds to Lloyd Evans about JW and global climate change ..... It's not what Evans sez: It's what DILBERT sez:
  20. This does not surprise me, the whole gender thing. You should see what they are doing when it comes to indoctrinating children into something that they proclaim as normal when it is bad. Birth certificates I believe was effected too:
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    There is a fight coming, those who see the danger are prepared for it, but those who don't see the danger or go about the danger as if they can defeat it will only find themselves in absolute ruin.
  21. This was expected. Israel and their allies which includes the US, France, UK, etc. Bolton the warmonger, their disdain for Iranians and those of Syria, etc. There is a slow tension on the other side of the spectrum regarding this as well. The MSM is also playing in the stories and events taking place too, especially with what happen in New Zealand. And there is tension going about regarding Christians in some parts and has caused some to even be angered.
  22. I regretted it almost the moment I sent it. Who am I to interject myself? Maybe I should have taken it back, but I usually do not delete things once I've put them out there. I try to dig myself out of the mess I've made later. Ideally, I think it through first. In this case, I shot myself in the foot. It is what it is. No one is saying that anyone is proud about it. That being said: Well, they're people too. Maybe if you "probably would not accept anyway" they somehow had a clue that would be the case. It isn't easy stepping into a situation that you know will be unpleasant, especially if you have many other things that are pleasant that you can occupy yourself with. It may not be wrong to look at it that way, but that does not mean it is helpful. It might be that if you do "make trouble" for her, she will go your way. Or it might be that she will break and/or that your marriage will blow up. Would you prefer that? Take it as real concern for her on their part, and even for you that you do not make what would have to have been a strained marital relationship 10 times worse. OK. It is a good word, I think. If you notice, my word to you was also a good word. I said that she probably loves you "with good reason." Don't misunderstand. Spiritually speaking, I think you have traded in the diamonds for the turds, but that does not mean that I dislike you personally (though - I admit it - at times I have).
  23. haha, you speaking as one elder after i send my Letter of dissociation to Betel. Elders try for months to arrange meeting with me by telephone contact, and not want to tell me why, that they will tell me on meeting (of course, reason was because i was put 2 post on my G+ profile with Critical Thoughts about GB). It is very Interesting fact how i stopped to go on meetings from 1 January 2015 and not giving reports about field service. Not single telephone call for some 6 months, to say simple hello or call for coffee - to show some "brotherly love" (which i probably would not accept anyway) but they could not even know my reaction in advance :)))), so they show some of their REAL faces. Not need to mentioned how one Betel elder try to arrange this meeting by telephone, with him and other elder and me, to discuss about "something" what made them worried (my 2 G+ posts). That make me sure how they Intentionally keek, peek, spy my internet activity and "preparing terrain for Judicial Committee ". But i "played my game" because of common knowledge about how such meetings with 2 and later with 3 elders would be. So, i made my letter, done verification of my Statement by Notary Public and in proper time for me i was sending/published it to JW members in ex congregation mostly and to Betel. And later via internet on some public forums, blogs. But why told you all this. Because your advice to not give hard time to my wife. In telephone call from Judicial Committee elders on the day they waiting/expecting me to come, and in the same week they received my Letter, because 2 of elders working in Betel so they was aware how i disf. myself few months earlier. Well, one elder made some sort of warning me to not making hard time to wife aka not to "persecute" her. I thought in my mind, oh dear god, you are the people who will shun and ignore me, you are the people who told congregation to destroy my Letter and to stop have anything with me, and now you have nerve to warn me to not make some trouble to her. HEHE, i am the one who TOLERATE you more than YOU tolerate others, and in this situation YOU are People who PERSECUTE me because of my decision to leave WTJWORG. Well TTH, if you will be in same situation to tell this words again, to someone else as advice/plead, Please, DO NOT. It looks funny, needlessly and somehow absurd, almost bizarre. WTJWORG is Organization who shows Extremism on this issue. You are not "extremist" in that sense.

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