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    • Eric Ouellet

      Marcher avec Dieu dans un temps tirant sa fin.
       
      Dans le jardin d’Éden, Adam et Ève ont écouté Satan, et Adam s’est rebellé contre Jéhovah (Genèse 3:1-6). Leur fils Abel ayant suivi une voie différente, Jéhovah l’a ‘ regardé avec faveur ’ (Genèse 4:3, 4). Malheureusement, la plupart des descendants d’Adam n’ont pas marché sur les traces d’Abel. En revanche, Hénok, né des centaines d’années plus tard, a suivi son exemple. Qu’est-ce qui distinguait Hénok de tant d’autres descendants d’Adam ? L’apôtre Paul répond : “ Par la foi, Hénok a été transféré pour ne pas voir la mort, et on ne le trouvait nulle part, parce que Dieu l’avait transféré ; car, avant son transfert, il avait le témoignage qu’il avait plu à Dieu. ” (Hébreux 11:5). Hénok faisait partie d’une grande “ nuée de témoins (pré-chrétiens)” qui furent de remarquables exemples de foi (Hébreux 12:1). C’est la foi qui lui a permis de conserver une conduite droite tout au long de ses plus de 300 ans d’existence — une vie au moins trois fois plus longue que celle de la plupart d’entre nous aujourd’hui !
      Quel genre de foi Hénok avait-il ?
      Paul a donné une définition de la foi qui animait Hénok et les autres ‘ témoins ’. “ La foi, a-t-il écrit, est l’attente assurée de choses qu’on espère, la démonstration évidente de réalités que pourtant on ne voit pas. ” (Hébreux 11:1). En effet, dotée d’un fondement solide, la foi est l’attente confiante que les choses que l’on espère se réaliseront. Cette attente est si ferme qu’elle détermine nos priorités dans la vie. C’est ce genre de foi qui a permis à Hénok de marcher avec Dieu, contrairement au monde qui l’entourait.
      Sur quelle connaissance exacte la foi de Hénok pouvait-elle reposer ?
      La vraie foi repose sur une connaissance exacte. Quelle connaissance Hénok avait-il (Romains 10:14, 17 ; 1 Timothée 2:4) ? Il ne fait aucun doute qu’il savait ce qui s’était passé en Éden. Il avait probablement entendu parler de la vie dans ce jardin — qui existait peut-être encore, même si l’accès en était interdit (Genèse 3:23, 24). Il connaissait également le dessein divin, suivant lequel les descendants d’Adam rempliraient la terre et en feraient un endroit semblable au Paradis originel (Genèse 1:28). En outre, il accordait assurément une grande valeur à la promesse que Jéhovah avait faite de produire une Semence qui écraserait la tête de Satan et effacerait les tristes conséquences de sa tromperie (Genèse 3:15). D'ailleurs, la prophétie que Dieu a inspirée à Hénok, celle que Jude a consignée, annonce la destruction de la semence de Satan. Comme Hénok exerçait la foi, il voyait nécessairement en Jéhovah le Dieu qui “ devient celui qui récompense ceux qui le cherchent réellement ”. (Hébreux 11:6.) Ainsi, même s’il n’avait pas toute la connaissance dont nous disposons, celle qu’il possédait était suffisante pour constituer le fondement d’une foi forte, foi qui l’a aidé à conserver son intégrité à une époque troublée.
      Imitons l’exemple de Hénok
      Comment pouvons-nous suivre l’exemple de Hénok ?
      Puisque nous souhaitons, comme Hénok, plaire à Jéhovah à l’époque troublée qui est la nôtre, nous avons tout intérêt à suivre l’exemple de ce fidèle du passé. Il nous faut pour cela acquérir et conserver la connaissance exacte de Jéhovah et de son dessein. Mais ce n’est pas tout. Nous devons faire en sorte que cette connaissance exacte dirige nos pas (Psaume 119:101 ; 2 Pierre 1:19). Nous devons nous laisser guider par la pensée divine et nous efforcer de plaire à Dieu dans toutes nos pensées et toutes nos actions.
      Rien ne nous permet de savoir si Hénok était le seul de son temps à servir Jéhovah. En tout cas, s’il n’était pas le seul, il ne faisait partie, à l’évidence, que d’une petite minorité. Nous constituons nous aussi une minorité dans le monde, mais cela ne nous démoralise pas. Jéhovah nous soutiendra quels que soient nos adversaires (Romains 8:31). Avec courage Hénok a annoncé la destruction des hommes impies. Nous nous montrons tout aussi courageux en prêchant “ cette bonne nouvelle du royaume ” malgré les moqueries, l’opposition et la persécution (Matthieu 24:14). Hénok n’a pas vécu aussi longtemps que bon nombre de ses contemporains. Mais son espérance ne se rattachait pas à ce monde-là. Il avait les yeux fixés sur quelque chose de bien plus grand (Hébreux 11:10, 35). Nous avons nous-mêmes le regard fixé sur l’accomplissement du dessein de Jéhovah. C’est la raison pour laquelle nous n’usons pas pleinement de ce monde (1 Corinthiens 7:31). Nous employons avant tout nos forces et nos ressources au service de Jéhovah.
      Hénok avait foi que la Semence promise apparaîtrait au moment où Dieu l’aurait décidé. Cela fait aujourd’hui près de 2 000 ans que la Semence  Jésus Christ  est apparue, qu’elle a versé la rançon et qu’elle nous a offert, à nous ainsi qu’aux fidèles témoins du passé comme Hénok, la possibilité d’hériter la vie éternelle. Aujourd’hui intronisée dans le Royaume de Dieu, la Semence a expulsé Satan des cieux vers la terre, ce qui explique les malheurs qui surviennent tout autour de nous (Révélation 12:12). Sans conteste, la connaissance est nettement plus abondante aujourd’hui qu’elle ne l’était aux jours de Hénok. Ayons donc une foi ferme comme la sienne. Que notre confiance dans l’accomplissement des promesses de Dieu ait une influence sur tout ce que nous faisons, et puissions-nous, comme Hénok, marcher avec Dieu bien que nous vivions à une époque troublée !
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  2. TrueTomHarley

    Is the UN preparing to attack Religion?

    I hate when people do this. Ford had just assumed the presidency and pardoned Nixon. At a NYC District Convention the next day, the speaker held aloft the NYDaily headlines - "Peace and Security!" and said: "Have you seen this headline??!!!" It was irresistable. I would have done it, too.
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  4. Melinda Mills

    Is the UN preparing to attack Religion?

    Had to caution a few brothers that were sending out thoughts on Facebook and a few places on the matter of looking for God's intervention in human affairs "whenever it is that they are saying "Peace and security!" around the time (a few weeks ago) America seemed to be making progress in securing peace between North Korea and the West. I reminded them about Jesus' words at Matthew 24:42-44, as follows: "(Matthew 24:42-44) Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 “But know one thing: If the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 On this account, you too prove yourselves ready, because the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it." At the transfiguration Jehovah told Jesus' disciples to "Listen to him". These sayings are from the same source, Jehovah, but we have to be sober and not run off with one but not weighing the other. We know the season we are in, but we will not be able to work out the precise period of the end. No matter what we see now, the end is going to take us by surprise. We should obey Jesus and prove ourselves ready. No one knows when a thief plans to come. Jesus stated that it was at an hour that "you do not think to be it", referring to his disciples. So let us to take note but be modest, sober and most of all, ready. So the question above is really timely.
  5. Gone Away

    Is the UN preparing to attack Religion?

    Which scenario do you refer to here as needing to be questioned? the scriptural picture as portrayed in Rev. 17? the interpreted understanding and application that Jehovah's Witnesses currently hold in connection with Rev.17? the suggestion that UN preparation for an attack on religion could be discerned from current political and ideological developments? And by extension, where we are in the stream of time relative to the start of the great tribulation? This is quite right as the several uses of the thief and unknown hour metaphors in Scripture confirm. However, why do you think that Jesus outlined detailed events in prophecy relating to end times?
  6. JW Insider

    Is the UN preparing to attack Religion?

    Discuss the question from the title of the topic? Now that's a novel idea. 😊 It is a reasonable solution to see the 10-horns and the wild beast as either representing, or some part of the dominant world power at the time of the great tribulation, the fall of Babylon the Great, Armageddon, etc. And it is a reasonable assumption to see the prostitute as false religion. And it seems that God puts a thought into the heart of the ten horns and the heart of the wild beast to give their kingdom to this wild beast until some end predetermined by the God's words will have been accomplished. Obviously. But is it the same as "biting the hand that feeds us" to discuss whether our current explanation of this chapter is reasonable? Is our end-time-scenario too sacrosanct to question in any way. Or is perhaps now the best opportune time to consider where our loyalties will lie if things seem NOT to be working out as expected? Or is perhaps now the best opportune time to consider the meaning of Jesus words about not being able to work out the closeness of the time of the end if things DO INDEED seem to be working out as expected? As several people already know, I come at this issue from the perspective that Jesus warned us against trying to look at signs of the times to divine the closeness of the end. It will come as a "thief in the night." Some of us will answer, but we won't be surprised, or in the dark, as someone who is awake and prepared for the thief. That's true, of course, but not because we will be able to figure out the time or season in which the thief will appear. Not because we will be watching for some entity to call out "peace and security." It's because we as Christians will be both patient and ready at all times because we are always looking out that our motivations are pure. Peter says we stay ready by watching ourselves and the type of person we ought to be, and clarifies the motivations behind all our activity in 2 Peter 1:5-8: 5 For this very reason, put forth all earnest effort+ to supply to your faith virtue,+ to your virtue knowledge,+ 6 to your knowledge self-control, to your self-control+ endurance, to your endurance godly devotion,+ 7 to your godly devotion brotherly affection, to your brotherly affection love.+ 8 For if these things exist in you and overflow, they will prevent you from being either inactive or unfruitful*+ regarding the accurate knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. There have always been those persons who think they are doing a favor to fellow Witnesses, or perhaps also highlighting their own faith in the predicted scenario by watching out for any mention of "peace and security" by a Pope, a world leader, or a UN representative. The initial post in this topic goes to a lot of trouble to try to read between the lines for items coming from the UN that somehow indicate that "they" could turn against and attack religion at any time. I think this is unhealthy and unchristian for several reasons. But I've already gone into detail about this aspect in other posts in the past. This doesn't mean the scenario is impossible, only that Jesus said it was wrong to look for such scenarios as a way to anticipate the closeness of the end or to try to predict the timing his parousia. They might create some fervor and anticipation about the closeness of the end, but they will produce an unchristian motivation. And, as I've also said, it would not be honest for me to discuss the question at hand without also mentioning that I think the whole scenario should be questioned. And, as I've also said, I think as Christians we are under an obligation to question such scenarios as to whether they are Biblical or even useful.
  7. Space Merchant

    Is the UN preparing to attack Religion?

    There is a known thing going on behind the scenes, however, a majority of people do not know about such, I say this to you guys too as well as to Jehovah's Witnesses here, albeit, some people are aware of the situation hence the response from the Religious Movement seeking unity throughout the globe. I am among those who know far too many things, the type of guy who is aware of the monster under the bed, so to speak. The only hint I can drop is money and oil as well as security and power at this point regarding nations, as for religion it is a conquest of peace and unity. Keep your eyes on Israel and Saudi Arabia.
  8. Space Merchant

    The Holy Spirit

    The Trinitarian Mental Gymnastics keeps on going, eh, perhaps the clowns in the small cop car are part of the show too, Cos? John chapters 14 to 16 will not help you here, especially 16 that points to several passages to Acts. I'll ask you again, prove via scripture that the Holy Spirit is a Person and or a Being, that passage in John has already been addressed because the speaker, JESUS (masculine), spoke of the HOLY SPIRIT (NEUTERED), and throughout the passage the neutered word is MODIFIED (neuter-masculine), I do not see why this has to be address, yet again, to a man who stated that his Greek is called into question. I already stated you cannot use modified gender form passages to prove so called personhood, you'll have to prove an actual passage and or scripture that the Holy Spirit is seen as a literal person (without the use of gender forms and or voice). For even things and places, such as Jerusalem is refereed to as a SHE, HER, or MOTHER, and we all know Jerusalem is not a literal PERSON. Example: Galatians 4:26 - But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. Try again or do not bother at all. Also another factor is that parakletos is masculine, as well as a Noun: http://biblehub.com/greek/3875.htm As for the recent response, As well as accursed teachings, a chuck full of em. And blind leading the blind and many who are obliviously mislead. You may want to look at the cross-references to 1 Timothy 4:1, it speaks of those with the Holy Spirit upon them speaking of what is inspired, nice try at best, but the cross-references gives us the information, you even suggested cross-references before and it would seem this time you jump from your 1984 NWT to another bible, perhaps the ESV, CSB or the HCSB at a guess. No one is blaming Trinitarians for wars, however, some have sided with those of Kairos, The Reformation, the secular Religious folk, as well as the Together Movement, of which will take place in Texas in October 2018. Mot Trintiarians are conservatives, and are well mixed with world affairs, like the Jerusalem Decision which caused problems and a lot of blood at the hands of the allies of the conservatives, the young Palestine didn't deserve to be shot in the face, or the Assyrians didn't deserve to be abandon by allies to be given to ISIS, or the bodies of their people and their young being in the possession of Al-Jayism. A Real Christian would not delve way too deep into the political confinements of man, and a man of Christ would never be part of such things. Start acting like a Christian and read your bible, you spend too much time with your understanding of man regarding scripture than actually being immersed in it yourself and contradict everything and say something outlandish, thus proving not only you are a Trinitarian, but clearly blinded, you call the Holy Spirit God, and Jesus God and the Father God whereas a single Law from the Torah disproves 3 in 1 God believe very strongly, let alone to what Jesus recited as a child and to what the early Christians affirmed, such as what Paul addressed in 1 Corinthians 8:6, even to this day people live by this law, die by it too, to brush over its meaning with another doctrine is a clear disrespect to what the bible says and to what the laws that God made even says. Again, God is not Triune, there is One God, that is the Father, Jesus address the Father who is his God several times in scripture, even that the Father is greater than he. Examples: Matthew 27:46 - And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” John 14:28 - You heard me say to you, ‘I am going away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. Luke 18:19 - And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. John 20:17 - Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” Revelations 3:2 - Wake up, and strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your works complete in the sight of my God. Clearly God being mention separate from Jesus, in this examples like: Colossians 1:3 - We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, Galatians 1:1 - Paul, an apostle—not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead— Romans 10:9 - because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. There is One God and One Christ, the Head of the Church is the Christ, the Head of the Christ, is the Father, God. God is the one who anoints, The chosen one, His Christ who is His Son, is the one who is anointed, the prophet that was to come to the people as in the Torah it even states this, Prophet Isaiah makes it clear as day for us to read. Nowhere in scripture that God is mentioned as a 3 in 1 Being. John 1:1 will not help you here, nor will Isaiah 9:6 (El Gibbor is not El Shaddai here) for we get a clear direct answer of the coming prophet as read in Deuteronomy 18:18, for this prophet who is the Seed of Abraham is the one who will speak God's Spoken Word for the Word is God an the Word is spoken through a man who is flesh, an this man is Jesus, not to mention the Timeline regarding John's Introductory,f or clearly John the Baptist never existed in the Old Testament. Nowhere in scripture that the Holy Spirit is seen as a Person or Being. Nowhere in scripture Jesus claim to be God for God cannot taste death (kill by his own creation), be fearful, or being unaware of the condition of a Fig Tree. Another reason why the Holy Spirit is not a person and or God is because only Jesus is, who is Lord also, is seated at the right hand of the Father, there is no 3rd throne for the clear personhood myth that is spouted by Trinitarians. Nowhere in the bible that is says God is a man, for the early Hew Old Testament clearly states God is not like a man or a son of man nor thinks like a man or a son of man, God is not even human, he is invisible, immortal, and clearly a Spirit and greater than anyone or anything and no one is equal and or above him, for He is Almighty God, the God and Father of Jesus Christ, the God and Father of me, the God and Father of you, and everyone who dwells on this earth, those who are alive and those who are dead, for God is not only a God of the living, but of the dead, for he has the power to bring those in death back to life. God cannot be seen and it is said that no one can see him and live. Nowhere in scripture young Jews recite the Old Testament of 3 Gods, they only recite and learn of the One True God of Israel. Jesus himself, as a child not only was he taught by Mary and Joseph, he learn about his Father who is His God, even going to His Father's temple when Mary and Joseph were looking for him for sometime. When he was circumcised on the 8th day, he was taken to the Tempe of his God, who is His Father. You are clearly at fault here and you claim the Holy Spirit to be a person, yet you cannot prove personhood int he bible and will restore to passages of neutered words being modified, typical move for a man who is in the Holy Spirit is a Person Camp vs those who are no in such a camp. That being said, you do not know your Greek or Hebrew, which is fact, you did the run around with John chapter 14/16 again after it has been address an the like. In the end, it is clear as to who is blind, the only mistake you haven't done was not only thinking of the Holy Spirit as a literal person and or a God as you claim, but a literal person having literal interactions with everything and everyone in the scripture, as a being, this belief is seen as detestable and there is a selected few people, regardless of Non-Trinitarian/Oneness/Trinitarian belief, they hold strong conviction to such and can and will be refuted dearly for such accursed teachings. I want you to serious take a look at the gospel of Luke, read the passage I address earlier whereas Jesus was reading what Prophet Isaiah had wrote, look carefully of what was said of the Holy Spirit and check the cross-reference. The dishonesty is very irritating to me and this was not the first rodeo of where you did this, and when such takes place, it requires, no, it demands correction, and it has to be made. Lastly, such doctrines is the root of the decline of Christianity and the Traditions of man entering the church, perhaps you should look this up because it would seem you've been hiding under a wrong all this time in this regard.
  9. Cos

    The Holy Spirit

    The Scriptures tell us that in the last days there will be a falling away of the truth; “Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons” (1 Tim. 4:1) True Christianity will decrease (but not cease) and false teachings will increase…sadly some seem to rejoice in this… Some like to blame Trinitarians for all that is wrong in the world. They will ignore the continual rise of false political idealism to blame Trinitarians for wars. But this kind of self-righteous attitude does not disprove the fact that God is Triune. <><
  10. Cos

    The Holy Spirit

    In the farewell discourse in the up-stairs room found in John Gospel chapters 14 to 16, Jesus clearly presents the Holy Spirit as a Person performing personal action. He is presented as “another Helper” and as Jesus’ successor, and in many respects, substitute: a force/power/influence of some kind, or anything less personal than Jesus Himself, would necessarily be something or a disappointment. In Scripture we clearly see how the Holy Spirit enjoys both the distinctness from the Father and the Son, as well as the unity with both. The distinction (e.g. the Father sends the Spirit in response to the Son’s intercession) ensures His separate Personality; His unity (e.g. by the Spirit indwelling in the believer, as the Father and the Son indwell the believer) ensures His Deity. We stand in relations to the Holy Spirit which we can uphold only to a person. He is the object of our faith. We believe on the Holy Spirit. This faith we profess in baptism Matt.28:19. We are baptized not only in the name of the Father and of the Son, but also of the Holy Spirit. The very association of the Spirit in such a connection, with the Father and the Son, as they are admitted to be distinct persons, proves that the Spirit also is a Person. Besides the use of the word “into the name”, admits of no other explanation. We stand in the same relation to Him as to the Father and to the Son ; we acknowledge Him to be a Person as distinctly as we acknowledge the Personality of the Son, or of the Father. Accordingly we are exhorted not "to sin against," "not to resist, "not to grieve" the Holy Spirit. He is therefore a Person who can be the object of our acts who can love and be loved. All the elements of personality, namely, intelligence, will, and individual subsistence, are not only involved in all that is thus revealed concerning the relation in which the Spirit stands to us and that which we sustain to Him, but they are all distinctly attributed to Him. The Spirit is said to know, to will, and to act. He searches, or knows all things, even the deep things of God. No man knows the things of God, but the Spirit of God. (1 Cor. 2:10, 12.) He distributes "to every man severally as he will." (1 Cor. 12:11.) If He can be loved, reverenced, and obeyed, or offended and sinned against. He must be a person. <><
  11. Gone Away

    Is the UN preparing to attack Religion?

    Is the UN preparing to attack Religion? Just getting back to the main topic. The most relevant prophetic statement I am aware of relating to this question is here: "And the ten horns that you saw and the wild beast, these will hate the prostitute and will make her devastated and naked, and they will eat up her flesh and completely burn her with fire. For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, yes, to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished." Revelation 17:16-17. Leaving aside extensive argumentation on the interpretation of these two verses, Jehovah's Witnesses understand this to be describing the destruction of false religion at the hands of its long-time partner, the political element of human society. "The ten horns" = those "movers and shakers" within the political set up (as opposed to "vassal" states) at the time these events occur. "The wild beast" = the earlier referred to "was but is not" conglomeration of nations we currently know as the United Nations of which the "ten horns" are a prominent part. "The prostitute" = said "Babylon the Great", the world empire of false religion, destined for complete destruction at the hands of the political powers. "Their one thought" = preservation of national sovereignty at all costs. There has always been a rather tenuous balance in this element of the religion/politics relationship. In fact, the false charge of "sedition" constitutes a prime weapon in the anti-Jehohvah's Witness strategy employed by false religion. It has been a main component of it's murderous schemes to eliminate servants of Jehovah with the enlistment of political muscle.(Compare John 19:15: "We have no king but Caesar") However, in striking similarity to the failure of Haman's schemes at the time of King Ahasuerus as described in the Bible book of Esther, false religion is "hoist on it's own petar", (to borrow a Shakesperean idiom). This will involve a remarkable feature in that the political elements (particularly those dominant UN partners, more inclined to veto than agree) participate in an unreserved delegation of authority to their political figurehead, currently identified as the UN. "God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought" = the crux of this whole matter. Observers today may well detect evidence to support their view of a rising anti-religious trend in UN attitudes to religion. But there may equally be those who would choose to argue a completely opposite view. Not to be overlooked is the view held by false religion itself at the time of it's destruction. This is indicated at Rev:18:7 "I sit as queen, and I am not a widow, and I will never see mourning". Rev18:8 adds "That is why in one day her plagues will come". The destruction of false religion at the hands of it's one time political allies will be something to shock this system of things to it's very foundations. It will open the world stage for "a tribulation such as has not occurred from the beginning of the creation that God created until that time" Mark 13:19. Those blessed with the 'abundant true knowledge' characterising these" last days" have a comprehension of the world scene that is very different from the many who remain in "darkness mentally and alienated from the life that belongs to God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the insensitivity of their hearts." Eph 4:19. So in answer to the question, probably not, as a body, although godless elements have been in it's composition since it's origin. This event will come "as a thief in the night", a development indeed, but something precipitated by Jehovah, at a time of His choosing, once the "good news of the kingdom" has been preached in all the inhabited earth, for a witness. Then the end will come. Now is not the time to bite the hand that feeds us!
  12. AllenSmith

    Is the UN preparing to attack Religion?

    Ex-Bethelite: I have noticed statements from JTR and Anna that actually state just the opposite. I've said it many times, too, that it really is humanly possible to make all the prophetic conjectures that you wish, and then just be humble about it and state that we really don't know for sure about these things we are conjecturing about. In other words, it's possible to make conjectures and be 100% right about everything we state as long as we are humble, discreet, and not presumptuous. The GB could have said that they don't know for sure, but that they believe the UN will attack religion for certain reasons, and then give those reasons. None of us would have the right to be dogmatic. We would always be 100% right, because we only stated that it was our current belief -- our opinion. Of course, I don't demand that we admit when we are just "conjecturing." But the Bible says it's the best course to avoid presumptuousness and the Bible recommends being faithful and discreet. This only proves your lack of understanding, with your own conjecture. As for Anna and JTR, I think there’s enough evidence out there to prove you wrong. But, as they defend your stance, I see where you would be obligated to defend them. Ex-Bethelite: Your "word salads" imply so much that is incorrect that I won't bother to untangle them. But it is funny that you find a person who says none of us has a crystal ball, and that none of us should claim to have one, and then you claim that this person thinks he has a crystal ball. I agree you use word salads to make every effort to come out looking good with your argument. Maybe someone else will buy what you’re selling? Just not me. Ex-Bethelite: I didn't want you deleted and you didn't want you deleted. So you are like me in that regard. Someone went against the whims of people like you and me. However, you have repeatedly claimed that you have not been silenced because you merely had to create new versions of your name and new versions of several other supportive "characters" who can up-vote yourself and show derision to others. I agree with you that you have never actually been silenced. So this should not be an excuse for coming up with no evidence for your opinions. Your opinions are just fine. Many have been spot on. Some of mine have been merely opinions unsupported with evidence. Opinions on their own are not valid or invalid, just opinions. But if anyone shows evidence contrary to my opinion, I will ALWAYS adjust my opinion in favor of the evidence. This is one of those places where no one has to hold back in presenting either opinions or evidence or counter-evidence. So if you have evidence, great. But if you don't have any evidence, then please stop whining about how one or two of your "characters" were deleted for abusive behavior several years ago. This is hilarious! The majority which is FALSE, but I think there’s enough evidence to prove you wrong once again. We can ask the librarian if it was just 1 or 2 or 28, or 100 times I was deleted, and my information erased to help people like you. Most recently, threatening to be “removed” by the librarian if I USE 1 specific word. And when you characterize abusive behavior that Anna, JTR, you, and many others contributed towards me? It just makes it more laughable lying about it and trying to justify the librarian’s actions of censorship, oppression, double standards, and much more. LOL! Ex-Bethelite: I was only thinking about prophecies associated with dates and time periods like 1878, 1881, 1910, 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, the mid-70's, the end of the century, the generation, etc. But I admit that there is one "prophetic fulfillment" in another category that comes very close. It's the best example available. I'm referring to the one that Knorr "predicted" about the League of Nations rising again as the United Nations. This one was not originally from the Watchtower, but from Christendom, but still the Watchtower should get credit for choosing to repeat it. I understand your refusal to understand what prophecy means, and how you “deny” any of the dates mentioned by you just like any ex-witness out there, and how you blame the Watchtower for 1975 like Anna, JTR and every ex-witness out there that is blowing hot air to appease their erred perception, but tell me when did WW2, Korean War, Vietnam, Desert Storm, etc. become irrelevant in your eyes? Not to mention your misrepresentation of the Watchtower publicans to assert your false claims about those dates, only to appeal to the ex-witnesses at AD1914.
  13. Because like Edom, Esau’s progeny, Watchtower’s leaders have no fear of God. “The terror you inspire and the pride of your heart have deceived you, you who live in the clefts of the rocks, who occupy the heights of the hill. Though you build your nest as high as the eagle’s, from there I will bring you down,” declares the Lord. Jer 49:16 These are the last words of David: “The inspired utterance of David son of Jesse, the utterance of the man exalted by the Most High, the man anointed by the God of Jacob, the hero of Israel’s songs: 2 “The Spirit of the Lord spoke through me; his word was on my tongue. 3 The God of Israel spoke, the Rock of Israel said to me: ‘When one rules over people in righteousness, when he rules in the fear of God, 4 he is like the light of morning at sunrise on a cloudless morning, like the brightness after rain that brings grass from the earth.’ “If my house were not right with God, surely he would not have made with me an everlasting covenant, arranged and secured in every part; surely he would not bring to fruition my salvation and grant me my every desire. 6 But evil men are all to be cast aside like thorns, which are not gathered with the hand. 7 Whoever touches thorns uses a tool of iron or the shaft of a spear; they are burned up where they lie.” 2 Sam 23:1-7 Is the Watchtower "right with God"? I see only darkness emanating from the Watchtower, its leaders, and its choice to ignore their own sins.
  14. TEXTO DIÁRIO DRAMATIZADO 23 maio 2018
  15. Queen Esther

    YES, I want see you in the New World ❤ You too ? (video)

    The NW is just around the corner >>>>>>>> not so long, watch the bad world THEN WE ARE THERE - OUR GOAL, YES
  16. Sochi: Meeting between Putin and Merkel: How a bouquet of flowers becomes a bone of contention... In fact, this is not the first time that Putin has given flowers to Merkel. In 2008, the Russian President presented to the Chancellor on World Women's Day on 8 March a bouquet of red flowers. At that time nobody had offended. The current excitement of the "image" is just another example of the hysterical mood against Russia, according to Russian state media. A souvenir for Vladimir Putin Other politicians Putin has already presented flowers, last year was the Croatian President Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović, 2012, it was the then President of Finland Tarja Halonen. The wife of former US President George W. Bush has received several flowers from Putin, as well as the Dutch Queen Beatrix. Incidentally, during her visit to Sochi, Merkel should have also made a gift to Putin: German beer. This souvenir has a long tradition in the relationship of the two heads of state. And if you look at it maliciously, you might as well interpret it as quite sexist. Nobody does that. And there was also a handshake between Putin and Merkel. ( look the touching hands... in my eyes NO affront ) More... https://www.msn.com/de-de/nachrichten/politik/sotschi-treffen-zwischen-putin-und-merkel-wie-ein-blumenstrauß-zum-zankapfel-wird/ar-AAxD6ma
  17. James Thomas Rook Jr.

    Is the UN preparing to attack Religion?

    Knoor's Law: "No matter what happens ... SOMEBODY predicted it." As far as TRUE predictions ...... it just was not .... us. We do know, however, from GB member Stephen Lett, that (paraphrased) " ... there is more evidence of God's Kingdom on Earth now, than there is for gravity, and electricity." ... but for the life of me, I find it impossible to wrap my mind around that statement. If Ah had stated that ... Ah could legitimately be involuntarily committed to a mental institution, and wear size 400 sleeves that tie in the back. My Movie.mp4
  18. Blanchie DeGrate

    YES, I want see you in the New World ❤ You too ? (video)

    Ooooh yes....... I can't hardly wait!! I miss him sooooo.💝💖🙏💖💝😔
  19. Queen Esther

    YES, I want see you in the New World ❤ You too ? (video)

    I want see you too in the NW my dear Sister Blanchie But first your hubby will run into your arms >>>>>> oh yes !!
  20. Blanchie DeGrate

    YES, I want see you in the New World ❤ You too ? (video)

    Thank you.🌺🙏🌺🤗
  21. Chuckle only! Maybe Armageddon is going to start? 😳😂 An actual sinkhole has opened on the White House lawn. It’s growing https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/an-actual-sinkhole-has-opened-on-the-white-house-lawn-it-s-growing/ar-AAxEkJq?ocid=ob-fb-enus-580
  22. Queen Esther

    YES, I want see you in the New World ❤ You too ? (video)

    Thank you so much, dear Brother @서기문 Greetings from your Sister in Germany, Agape
  23. Queen Esther

    IS MONEY THE FIRST THING IN YOUR LIFE? CAN'T LIFE WITHOUT?

    Thats a very intimate, direct but also nosy question.... I NEVER would ask any people to that ! We all need money for living in our bad world And by loyal JW its NOT a theme, we all know the dangerous difference. Learning from Jehovah in our Bible THANK YOU JEHOVAH
  24. WHY would Jehovah's Witnesses reject Government calls for Independent Inquiry into sexual abuse?
  25. I Will See You In The New World.... Yes, I want it SO much... you too ? ❤ .•*¨`*•..¸♥☼♥¸.•*¨`*•. ❤
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  27. I will never leave you, and I will never abandon you.—Heb. 13:5. We can link that inspired statement with what Jesus said about seeking first the Kingdom and God’s righteousness. (Matt. 6:33) The apostle Peter once asked Jesus: “We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” (Matt. 19:27) Instead of rebuking Peter for asking that question, Jesus told his disciples that they would be rewarded for their sacrifices. The faithful apostles and others will rule with him in heaven. But even now there are rewards. Jesus said: “Everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands for the sake of my name will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit everlasting life.” (Matt. 19:29) His disciples would gain blessings far in excess of any personal sacrifices they might make. Are not spiritual fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, and children much more valuable than anything we have renounced or given up for the sake of the Kingdom? w16.12 4:4, 5 https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/dt/r1/lp-e/2018/5/23
  28. a-dmickle@comcast.net

    Weekly Material for May21-27, 2018

    Thank you again and again, my dear sister. Please enjoy your week. Very best, Sis "D" (USA- East Coast)
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    • I hate when people do this. Ford had just assumed the presidency and pardoned Nixon. At a NYC District Convention the next day, the speaker held aloft the NYDaily headlines - "Peace and Security!" and said: "Have you seen this headline??!!!" It was irresistable. I would have done it, too.
    • Had to caution a few brothers that were sending out thoughts on Facebook and a few places on the matter of looking for God's intervention in human affairs "whenever it is that they are saying "Peace and security!" around the time (a few weeks ago)  America seemed to be making progress in securing peace between North Korea and the West. I reminded them about Jesus' words at  Matthew 24:42-44, as follows: "(Matthew 24:42-44) Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 “But know one thing: If the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 On this account, you too prove yourselves ready, because the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it."  At the transfiguration Jehovah told Jesus' disciples to "Listen to him".   These sayings are from the same source, Jehovah, but we have to be sober and not run off with one but not weighing the other.  We know the season we are in, but we will not be able to work out the precise period of the end. No matter what we see now, the end is going to take us by surprise.  We should obey Jesus and prove ourselves ready. No one knows when a thief plans to come.  Jesus stated that it was at an hour that "you do not think to be it", referring to his disciples. So let us to take note but be modest, sober and most of all, ready.  So the question above is really timely.
    • Which scenario do you refer to here as needing to be questioned? the scriptural picture as portrayed in Rev. 17? the interpreted understanding and application that Jehovah's Witnesses currently hold in connection with Rev.17? the suggestion that UN preparation for an attack on religion could be discerned from current political and ideological developments? And by extension, where we are in the stream of time relative to the start of the great tribulation?   This is quite right as the several uses of the thief and unknown hour metaphors in Scripture confirm. However, why do you think that Jesus outlined detailed events in prophecy relating to end times?  
    • Discuss the question from the title of the topic? Now that's a novel idea. 😊 It is a reasonable solution to see the 10-horns and the wild beast as either representing, or some part of the dominant world power at the time of the great tribulation, the fall of Babylon the Great, Armageddon, etc. And it is a reasonable assumption to see the prostitute as false religion. And it seems that God puts a thought into the heart of the ten horns and the heart of the wild beast to give their kingdom to this wild beast until some end predetermined by the God's words will have been accomplished. Obviously. But is it the same as "biting the hand that feeds us" to discuss whether our current explanation of this chapter is reasonable? Is our end-time-scenario too sacrosanct to question in any way. Or is perhaps now the best opportune time to consider where our loyalties will lie if things seem NOT to be working out as expected? Or is perhaps now the best opportune time to consider the meaning of Jesus words about not being able to work out the closeness of the time of the end if things DO INDEED seem to be working out as expected? As several people already know, I come at this issue from the perspective that Jesus warned us against trying to look at signs of the times to divine the closeness of the end. It will come as a "thief in the night." Some of us will answer, but we won't be surprised, or in the dark, as someone who is awake and prepared for the thief. That's true, of course, but not because we will be able to figure out the time or season in which the thief will appear. Not because we will be watching for some entity to call out "peace and security." It's because we as Christians will be both patient and ready at all times because we are always looking out that our motivations are pure. Peter says we stay ready by watching ourselves and the type of person we ought to be, and clarifies the motivations behind all our activity in 2 Peter 1:5-8: 5 For this very reason, put forth all earnest effort+ to supply to your faith virtue,+ to your virtue knowledge,+ 6 to your knowledge self-control, to your self-control+ endurance, to your endurance godly devotion,+ 7 to your godly devotion brotherly affection, to your brotherly affection love.+ 8 For if these things exist in you and overflow, they will prevent you from being either inactive or unfruitful*+ regarding the accurate knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. There have always been those persons who think they are doing a favor to fellow Witnesses, or perhaps also highlighting their own faith in the predicted scenario by watching out for any mention of "peace and security" by a Pope, a world leader, or a UN representative. The initial post in this topic goes to a lot of trouble to try to read between the lines for items coming from the UN that somehow indicate that "they" could turn against and attack religion at any time. I think this is unhealthy and unchristian for several reasons. But I've already gone into detail about this aspect in other posts in the past. This doesn't mean the scenario is impossible, only that Jesus said it was wrong to look for such scenarios as a way to anticipate the closeness of the end or to try to predict the timing his parousia. They might create some fervor and anticipation about the closeness of the end, but they will produce an unchristian motivation. And, as I've also said, it would not be honest for me to discuss the question at hand without also mentioning that I think the whole scenario should be questioned. And, as I've also said, I think as Christians we are under an obligation to question such scenarios as to whether they are Biblical or even useful.
    • There is a known thing going on behind the scenes, however, a majority of people do not know about such, I say this to you guys too as well as to Jehovah's Witnesses here, albeit, some people are aware of the situation hence the response from the Religious Movement seeking unity throughout the globe. I am among those who know far too many things, the type of guy who is aware of the monster under the bed, so to speak. The only hint I can drop is money and oil as well as security and power at this point regarding nations, as for religion it is a conquest of peace and unity. Keep your eyes on Israel and Saudi Arabia.
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