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  2. Bit of confusion on the use of the terms elder(s) and elderly, but otherwise makes sense. Good example of Caesar at last doing his job as God's minister. This can only work to the benefit of the congregation. And, hopefully, disqualification to serve the congregation. Hope so.
  3. ISIS Kills a JW Sister in Finland Terror Attack

    @Kurt Thank You Kurt, I looked at the sources but none of them seemed to name the victim. Also that photo on facebook could be anyone there is no way to confirm her as a witness. If she was at a Kingdom hall then maybe that would be better proof. Maybe I missed something due to the language differences.
  4. Moreover, the confidential letter that you quote as though experiencing sexual climax does no more than expand on the consideration already announced publicly. Witnesses are well used to hearing about how that this or that circuit expense will be met if everyone contributes such and such an amount. This is always followed by the clarification that it is not suggested each member pony up that amount, but rather that the congregation in aggregate do so. What your 'secret letter' reveals is that even that fair policy is not held fast to. Elders know their flock. A poor congregation can lessen their share. A well-off congregation can increase it. Ours increases it regularly because @The Librariantells them I make a bundle off my books, the meddling hen. But others lessen theirs. Any Witness stumbling across your coup de grace will come away with increased respect for Bethel's consideration. They will also not be surprised. For decades they have heard about their surpluses benefiting other lands with deficits. They know it is hopelessly out of the reach of many third world congregations to afford their own Kingdom Hall, and they are thrilled to know their funds are spent thereby. Even @James Thomas Rook Jr., who rails about giving up local control of his money, probably does not begrudge that. You consistently try to advance the notion that Witnesses are being fleeced by their organization. You consistently have your ears pasted back. In the end you are reduced to saying 'well - you have your opinion. I have mine.' It gets old.
  5. Six months as extremists: what happens to "Jehovah's Witnesses" in Russia Anastasia Golubeva Russian BBC Service In May 2017, the inhabitant of Eagle, the Dane Dennis Christensen and several of his co-religionists gathered in the building for worship, in order, in their words, to read the Bible. A month before, the Supreme Court of Russia recognized the activities of "Jehovah's Witnesses" in Russia as extremist and banned the organization. To hold a meeting that May evening in the Oryol community was not possible: officers of the FSB broke into the hall. They detained only Christensen. By this time, the Dane lived in Orel for the last ten years, was married to a Russian woman, worked as a carpenter. As a result, Christensen became the first "Jehovah's Witness", who was charged with an extremist article after the organization's ban in Russia. According to the lawyer of the Dane Irina Krasnikova, Christensen is accused of continuing the activities of a local religious organization that was already banned. "They just gathered to read the Bible, I think it's absurd to blame a person for extremism," says the lawyer. Irina Krasnikova insists: Christensen could not continue the activities of the banned organization, since he was not its founder or leader. In June, the Dane was arrested, all the requests for protection to mitigate the measure of restraint, the court rejected and left him under arrest. "In SIZO he had chronic illnesses due to lack of heating and hot water in the cell, and he was also restricted in visits from the family," says the lawyer. Long report go to website for whole article.
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  7. Demonism and the Watchtower

    Whatever.....I think you just want to argue....I wasn't even worried about who sanctioned what, and who bought what, the fact is Russell's theory about the great pyramid didn't die with him but much later, and the belief about the ancient worthies coming to earth before Armageddon didn't die with Rutherford, but quite a number of years later. Just some funny trivia; when Br. Rutherford was interviewed by the Time magazine when it became known he deeded the house to the ancient worthies, he said "I have purposely landscaped the place with palm and olive trees so these princes of the universe will feel at home when they come to offer man a chance to become perfect.” Here is the whole article: and here is the deed:
  8. QUEBEC, CANADA A judge orders a 14-Year-old witness to be baptized with blood. A judge from Quebec has decided that a 14-Year-old Jehovah's witness who has cancer must undergo blood transfusions, despite his express desire not to receive them. The Adolescent, who is not named, learned in June that she has hodgkin's lymphoma, a rare form of cancer affecting white blood cells. He has an excellent survival rate, if it's early. Treatment involves chemotherapy, which often requires blood transfusions. But as Jehovah's witness, the faith of the girl states that it is against God's desires to consume or be transfused with any blood. The girl, who had just turned 14 at the time of her diagnosis, refused to accept any transfusion. Under the québec law, children under the age of 14 may reject certain health services. However, if the parents of the child or a hospital want to administer these services, they may request the permission of a judge. In his decision issued earlier this month, judge lukasz granosik noted that the girl had embraced his religion at an early age and was baptized at 12 years of his own agreement. McGill University Health Center, where the girl was being treated, argued that the girl was not mature enough to make those decisions and was under the pressure of her parents to refuse transfusions. In his judgement, granosik noted that the girl was brilliant and expressive, but also said he was talking about death "almost with resignation". Noting that the law is designed to protect children even from themselves, he ordered the girl to submit to any blood transfusion necessary to save his life The girl's Hematologist-oncologist says that the girl's prognosis with full treatment is excellent, with 97 percent of recovery possibilities. The hospital has promised to use blood transfusions only if the child's life is in danger, and use other methods to avoid transfusions when possible. No update on the current adolescent health status is known.
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  9. Important for the appointment of elders The Australian government will also decide on the appointment of the elderly. New enforcement act requires the bodies of the elderly to be legally examined if the new possible appointments are free of charge of paedophilia. Only if the ruling reports that the person has no criminal record of problems with children, he may receive the new card that allows him to deal with children. Among other things, it is ascertained whether there is a criminal record and the person in the past was already noticeable in the treatment of children. This method is based on the recommendations of the royal commission which had been investigated by Jehovah's witnesses in 2017 in July 2015 and March. Until now the only question to the candidate on the issue of appointments was: " have you ever harassed or sexually abused a child?" And of course, the answer depends on sincerity. The appointed elders or service assistants who have successfully passed the check will receive a pass to enable them to work with children. If the appointees act without this card, this results in extreme fines. Possibly even a prison sentence. This review also applies to the elderly and previously appointed service workers. On Wednesday, 13 September, during a meeting in Sydney, the appointment of a ministerial servant was announced, with the reference to the working with children check. Known by public and Brother Elders Letter Will this spread to the rest of the civilized world?
  10. One of our elders made a good point tonight - The video shown at the mid week meeting regarding Sergei's test of loyalty was shown at 2016 DC around a year ago. Look what happened 12 months later Russia bans JWs & brothers locked up without trial. Who knew?!
  11. Demonism and the Watchtower

    Then you have a KNOWN ERROR! to understand the pyramid gravestone was placed way after Russell's burial, buy friends of Russell NOT the Peoples' Pulpit association or the Watchtower Bible and tract society. The same can be said about Rutherford. A few good people bought and paid for the house in San Diego, NOT the Watchtower. So, the only reason to bring up such distortion becomes a KNOWN ERROR. So, should we use this as a constant here?
  12. @The Librarian Donald Trump defo mentioned Peace & Security of the world today talking about the threat to it globally posed by North Korea.... amazing how at a time of possible nuclear war etc world leaders are talking about peace & security or safety..... Tick tock
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  14. Demonism and the Watchtower

    I know, you already told me that on the other thread, and I did reply And it's Donny and Marie Osmond if I'm not mistaken
  15. Demonism and the Watchtower

    I don't know what exactly you mean by "the Watchtower". Surely it was sanctioned by whoever was in charge of the society at the time. Again, not sure what you mean by "the Watchtower". And no, that is not the only reason, Proclaimers book: Box/Picture on page 76] “House of the Princes” Brother Rutherford had a severe case of pneumonia after his release from unjust imprisonment in 1919. Thereafter, he had only one good lung. In the 1920’s, under a doctor’s treatment, he went to San Diego, California, and the doctor urged him to spend as much time as possible there. From 1929 on, Brother Rutherford spent the winters working at a San Diego residence he had named Beth-Sarim. Beth-Sarim was built with funds that were a direct contribution for that purpose. The deed, which was published in full in “The Golden Age” of March 19, 1930, conveyed this property to J. F. Rutherford and thereafter to the Watch Tower Society. Concerning Beth-Sarim, the book “Salvation,” published in 1939, explains: “The Hebrew words ‘Beth Sarim’ mean ‘House of the Princes’; and the purpose of acquiring that property and building the house was that there might be some tangible proof that there are those on earth today who fully believe God and Christ Jesus and in His kingdom, and who believe that the faithful men of old will soon be resurrected by the Lord, be back on earth, and take charge of the visible affairs of earth.” A few years after Brother Rutherford’s death, the board of directors of the Watch Tower Society decided to sell Beth-Sarim. Why? “The Watchtower” of December 15, 1947, explained: “It had fully served its purpose and was now only serving as a monument quite expensive to keep; our faith in the return of the men of old time whom the King Christ Jesus will make princes in ALL the earth (not merely in California) is based, not upon that house Beth-Sarim, but upon God’s Word of promise.” [Footnote] At the time, it was believed that faithful men of old times, such as Abraham, Joseph, and David, would be resurrected before the end of this system of things and would serve as “princes in all the earth,” in fulfillment of Psalm 45:16. This view was adjusted in 1950, when further study of the Scriptures indicated that those earthly forefathers of Jesus Christ would be resurrected after Armageddon.—See “The Watchtower,” November 1, 1950, pages 414-17.
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  17. So what? Money was asked for by Moses, David, Paul, Jesus had money given in support of his work. It was always genorosity in imitation of Jehovah that was emphasised as now. No need to "beg or petition" is the phrase actually used. We don't have bingo, lotteries, Punch and Judy shows, book sales etc. nor accept money to atone for sins. By the way, There ain't no DOs no mo'
  18. Demonism and the Watchtower

    Hahaha, that is hilarious! There must be an elder like that in every hall, we have one! (And don’t tell me you don’t @Gone Fishing) The curious thing is, off the platform this brother can be quite crass and has made some rather dirty and inapropriate (as in sexually) remarks about some women to my husband. Maybe when he’s up there he feels the need to make atonement and that’s his way of doing it. A few weeks ago we had a speaker from another hall and in his talk he asked if we thank Jehovah regularly for the Bible and the publications he has authored. To be fair to him, maybe he was nervous and didn’t mean to say it quite this way. In any case, my husband and I looked at each other and he whispered in my ear “I thought Jehovah only authored the Bible”. Sometimes I think some of us say things, as you say, as if it was a “formula”. How many times do you hear friends saying, when there is a disaster, Jehovah protected them etc. when you know that if that was the case, then Jehovah is partial, because he helped brother Albert, but sister Mildred unfortunately got struck by flying debris and died.
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  20. The organization offers more and more publications in Arabic. The German government watches the Arabs be honest and not looking to stay in the country. The Picture is from Germany where many refugees take publications interested in something they have never heard. "there are also Arabic-speaking communities of Jehovah's witnesses, where worship services are carried out in arabic", says a spokesman. The Jehovah's witness website is available in more than 800 languages worldwide. The fact that refugees are receptive to the community of Jehovah's witnesses is easy to understand. "the refugees are seeking guidance and guidance is exactly what Jehovah's witnesses offer", says christoph grotepass of the-Info Advisory Center in Essen. There are also similarities in the concept of God. "Jehovah's witnesses reject the trinity of God as much as islam", says Rev. Albrecht. So the publishers can argue well with the refugees. The world defenders of Protestant and Catholic churches have produced information material to educate refugees and refugees against Jehovah's witnesses. The Federal office verifies the credibility of the conversion If a refugee becomes the asylum procedure, an official of the federal office for migration and refugees (Bamf) examines the specific circumstances of the change of faith. Only if the refugee can convince that he becomes a genuine conviction and not for tactical asylum reasons and wants to follow his new religion also on his return to his homeland, he has an opportunity for asylum. If the refugee may submit a certificate of baptism, the bamf does not doubt the conversion as a rule. "it is generally assumed that careful Christian support was given by Christian communities and religious communities", said a ministry spokesman.
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  21. Confiscated vote? Escalation over banned Catalonia referendum
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  22. Catalan Referendum: "It takes two to tango, but it only takes one to divorce"
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  23. Two New Earthquakes In New Zealand almost 6.0 Magnitude

    Yes. But it is like most classics - very slow and cumbersome in its developing, but all the more gripping when it gets to action and emotional pull on that account. I didn't actually 'read' it. I listened to it via Books on Tape while working a hum-drum job. An entire chapter, the 3rd I think, is dedicated to the architectural details of Paris during that time. Or maybe it is just the architectural details of that church - I forget which.
  24. Two New Earthquakes In New Zealand almost 6.0 Magnitude

    Very cool! Is it worth reading do you think? I'm the only person on the planet who hasn't even seen the movie, let alone the several stage versions that any NORMAL person would have by now.
  25. "The Spanish government is violating fundamental rights"
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  26. @David Normand Yes, it reminded me of when Jesus Christ Our Lord was on trial and Pilate asked the people who do you want released? They chose the criminal! Yet, Jesus Christ was free of any true charges. As the scriptures say, they hated me without cause. Truth is Truth! Thank you for your support! Jehovah bless! 👑🙏🕊🙏👑
  27. Despite recent chatter about The Boring Company using its tunnels for Hyperloop technology, high profile venture capitalist and Tesla and SpaceX board member Steve Jurvetson says that building smaller, short-range tunnels for electric vehicle transport is a realistic project that could change the entire concept of tunneling. An aspect of The Boring Company’s original plan was to create a tunnel infrastructure underneath cities as an electric vehicle super highway. A proposed system of underground tunnels, first envisioned by Tesla CEO Elon Musk, would utilize electric skates that could be lowered into the ground and zipped to a destination. Musk recently demonstrated a working proof of concept of the elevator that would be used to lower a Tesla into the underground tunnel. The Boring Company’s specific mission was burrowing smaller, cost efficient tunnels to house these point-to-point local highways. Jurveston said at TechCrunch’s Disrupt San Fransisco that this idea would be great for both The Boring Company and Musk to pursue, maybe even in lieu of Hyperloop technology implementation. “I personally love the idea, in fact even more than the Hyperloop idea, of digging these tunnels,” Jurveston said. “The inside I think that’s so powerful is that if you only envision electric vehicles in your tunnels you don’t need to do the air handling for all carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, you know, basically pollutants for exhaust. You could have scrubbers and a variety of simpler things that make everything collapse to a smaller tunnel size, which dramatically lowers the cost … The whole concept of what you do with tunnels changes.” The Boring Company said in early August that its tunnels would be used for Hyperloop technology, rivaling companies like Hyperloop One and Hyperloop Transportation Technologies. Rumors have swirled that Musk also wants to develop the Hyperloop from New York City to Washington, D.C., a system that would turn a 4-hour drive into a 29-minute ride. Jurveston made a good point in the panel discussion, saying that by developing shorter highways first, The Boring Company would be able to “cut [its] teeth” before developing full scale, city-to-city Hyperloop technology. “In the near term you do something incremental,” Jurveston said. “Thinking about small local links, that’s very compelling. The Hyperloop concept makes more sense when you’re commuting across a longer distance … to me that [Hyperloop routes] just feels like it comes later. You probably cut your teeth on the things The Boring company has shown, which is taking normal cars through a tunnel.” The post Steve Jurvetson talks The Boring Company: Short-range EV tunnels before Hyperloop appeared first on TESLARATI.com. Via
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    • Bit of confusion on the use of the terms elder(s) and elderly, but otherwise makes sense. Good example of Caesar at last doing his job as God's minister. This can only work to the benefit of the congregation. And, hopefully, disqualification to serve the congregation. Hope so.
    • @Kurt Thank You Kurt, I looked at the sources but none of them seemed to name the victim. Also that photo on facebook could be anyone there is no way to confirm her as a witness. If she was at a Kingdom hall then maybe that would be better proof. Maybe I missed something due to the language differences.
    • Moreover, the confidential letter that you quote as though experiencing sexual climax does no more than expand on the consideration already announced publicly. Witnesses are well used to hearing about how that this or that circuit expense will be met if everyone contributes such and such an amount. This is always followed by the clarification that it is not suggested each member pony up that amount, but rather that the congregation in aggregate do so. What your 'secret letter' reveals is that even that fair policy is not held fast to. Elders know their flock. A poor congregation can lessen their share. A well-off congregation can increase it. Ours increases it regularly because @The Librariantells them I make a bundle off my books, the meddling hen. But others lessen theirs. Any Witness stumbling across your coup de grace will come away with increased respect for Bethel's consideration. They will also not be surprised. For decades they have heard about their surpluses benefiting other lands with deficits. They know it is hopelessly out of the reach of many third world congregations to afford their own Kingdom Hall, and they are thrilled to know their funds are spent thereby. Even @James Thomas Rook Jr., who rails about giving up local control of his money, probably does not begrudge that.  You consistently try to advance the notion that Witnesses are being fleeced by their organization. You consistently have your ears pasted back. In the end you are reduced to saying 'well - you have your opinion. I have mine.' It gets old.
    • Six months as extremists: what happens to "Jehovah's Witnesses" in Russia Anastasia Golubeva Russian BBC Service In May 2017, the inhabitant of Eagle, the Dane Dennis Christensen and several of his co-religionists gathered in the building for worship, in order, in their words, to read the Bible. A month before, the Supreme Court of Russia recognized the activities of "Jehovah's Witnesses" in Russia as extremist and banned the organization. To hold a meeting that May evening in the Oryol community was not possible: officers of the FSB broke into the hall. They detained only Christensen. By this time, the Dane lived in Orel for the last ten years, was married to a Russian woman, worked as a carpenter. As a result, Christensen became the first "Jehovah's Witness", who was charged with an extremist article after the organization's ban in Russia. According to the lawyer of the Dane Irina Krasnikova, Christensen is accused of continuing the activities of a local religious organization that was already banned. "They just gathered to read the Bible, I think it's absurd to blame a person for extremism," says the lawyer. Irina Krasnikova insists: Christensen could not continue the activities of the banned organization, since he was not its founder or leader. In June, the Dane was arrested, all the requests for protection to mitigate the measure of restraint, the court rejected and left him under arrest. "In SIZO he had chronic illnesses due to lack of heating and hot water in the cell, and he was also restricted in visits from the family," says the lawyer. Long report go to website for whole article.  Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
    • Whatever.....I think you just want to argue....I wasn't even worried about who sanctioned what, and who bought what, the fact is Russell's theory about the great pyramid didn't die with him but much later, and the belief about the ancient worthies coming to earth before Armageddon didn't die with Rutherford, but quite a number of years later. Just some funny trivia; when Br. Rutherford was interviewed by the Time magazine when it became known he deeded the house to the ancient worthies, he said "I have purposely landscaped the place with palm and olive trees so these princes of the universe will feel at home when they come to offer man a chance to become perfect.” Here is the whole article: and here is the deed: Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
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