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Jesus was too. Jesus never broke even one tiny part of the Mosaic Law, or the Roman Law, or the Kingly Law of Love, and yet he was hated, despised, mocked, ridiculed, shunned, judged negatively, tortured, and finally, killed, by the peoples and authorities of his day. Talk about the ultimate disfellowshipping! Are you anointed, faithful, and yet disfellowshipped? Praise Jehovah! Thank Jehovah for his undeserved kindness, that He saw in you the same faith as the prophets of old, faithful ones who were willing to give their all for the One True God. Your reward is great, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets of old. …
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@AnnaNana: "By what authority do you do these things? And who gave you this authority?" Paul was not a member of the governing body. And yet Jehovah assigned Paul to preach to the nations and write several books of the Bible. Jehovah gave him this authority. @Moise Racette: Rebuttal. It is interesting the poster makes this type of comment while contradicting scripture. Since, God gave Paul the “authority” as stated by the poster then, God CAN give anyone, or any group, that authority like the apostles, elders, and overseers mentioned in scripture. What authority does the poster have to contradict the words of God? Philippians 1:1 New Intern…
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The day will come upon the governing body (and those who consider themselves modern-day scribes) as a surprise, as a thief in the night, because they think Jesus has been ruling since 1914 and they think Satan is already cast down and they think the nations will be the ones saying "peace in security". They have everything all confused. They are asleep, they are as ones who are drunk, they are not able to warn the flock. Jehovah has allowed them to fall asleep, because they like to believe the lie that there is a separate clergy class or higher-intelligent fancy complicated people that can only understand, namely, "The Faithful And Discreet Slave" and those who worship the…
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REVELATION - Jehovah's Witnesses
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"Do not interpretations belong to God?" "Then Joseph said to Pharʹaoh: “The dreams of Pharʹaoh are one and the same. The true God has told to Pharʹaoh what He will do. The seven good cows are seven years. Likewise, the seven good ears of grain are seven years. The dreams are one and the same. The seven skinny and bad cows that came up after them are seven years, and the seven empty ears of grain, scorched by the east wind, will prove to be seven years of famine. This is just as I told to Pharʹaoh: The true God has caused Pharʹaoh to see what He will do." "I have come to make you understand what will befall your people in the final part of the da…
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@AnnaNana1914 is a lie. Calculating some so-called "Gentile Times" is a theory by philosophers who like to make stuff up and sound really important, like the Pharisees. God's Word is clear. The Bible speaks of many "appointed times". "There is an appointed time for everything; A time for every activity under the heavens." In response, it can only be a lie if the bible doesn’t mention time of the gentiles, which is does. Therefore, the lies come from uneducated people that deny God’s words.
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@AnnaNana Daniel chapter 4 does not say anything about Gentile Times. "Do not interpretations belong to God?" In Daniel chapter 5, and chapters 7-12, there is an angel who tells Daniel what the interpretations of the visions are. The angel tells Daniel when a vision is about one kingdom or another. Since, the prophets were in communication with the most high for the demise of Israel and Judah by the gentiles, a group of people other than Jew, those Prophets understood who they were referring to. Scripture doesn’t need to see a “specific word” to make intelligence true. Therefore, the 3 1/2 times in Daniel are significant.
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To Moise Racette: You are correct when you say, "Apostates cannot dictate scripture in order for it to mean whatever they wish it to mean." The current men serving on the governing body are apostates. They twist the scriptures. Therefore, just because they publish a certain meaning doesn't mean it means what they think it means. You are correct, Moise, in this statement. Those who are faithful anointed ones are able to comprehend the scriptures, not because of their own merit or position or tradition, but by means of holy spirit. Jesus said he would send the helper for this purpose. "I write you these things about those who are trying to mislead y…
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A fun true and false quiz... 1 2
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True and False True teachings: Jehovah is God's Name Jehovah is not a trinity Jehovah's Witnesses are God's name people There is no hellfire The Noachian Flood was real Creation is true; evolution is a false teaching 144,000 anointed to be kings/priests in heaven Jehovah is the Only True God, and He deserves to be worshipped with Spirit and Truth. False teachings perpetuated by the current governing body compared to the True teachings revealed by the Bible and holy spirit: FALSE: Only the anointed will interact with Jehovah. TRUE: The other sheep on earth will interact with Jehovah in a per…
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2 Thessalonians 2
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"However, brothers, concerning the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be alarmed either by an inspired statement or by a spoken message or by a letter appearing to be from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here." Jesus did not receive the kingdom in 1914. The anointed of old were not resurrected at that time. "Let no one lead you astray in any way, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. He stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or …
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Appointed Times of the Nations
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The phrase "Gentile Times" is also worded "appointed times of the nations." Notice what Jesus said: "And they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled." Jesus also said: "Keep looking, keep awake, for you do not know when the appointed time is." If the so-called "Gentile Times" could be calculated, then why did Jesus say "you do not know when"? Jesus doesn't lie. He is the Faithful Witness. 1914 is a lie. Calculating some so-called "Gentile Times" is a …
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Resurrection of the Anointed
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"But reject empty speeches that violate what is holy, for they will lead to more and more ungodliness, and their word will spread like gangrene. Hy·me·naeʹus and Phi·leʹtus are among them. These men have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred, and they are subverting the faith of some." There were some in the first century that erroneously taught the resurrection of the anointed had already occurred. These men deviated from truth and subverted the faith of others. Paul said, when talking of the anointed: "Look! I tell you a sacred secret: We will not all fall asleep in death, but we will all be changed, in a mo…
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In the Watchtower for this weekend, the governing body is saying there is "peace and security" in the congregations, when there is no peace. (See paragraph 14 and footnote, wt November 2022, Study Article 46) The elders disfellowship faithful anointed ones who keep their integrity to Christ and obey the direction of the holy spirit. The congregation not a spiritual paradise, it's a place where "Jezebel" puts out hits on "Naboths". The study article says many prophecies Isaiah wrote apply today. That is correct. Here is what Jehovah's holy spirit shows is some of that application for Jehovah's Witnesses as an organization today. (Read Isaiah chapter 30 verses 1-5…
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TO REASON MATURE BROTHERS AND SISTERS. - Â What is the 666 mark? The slave says: Many human beings, in word or deed, symbolically carry this mark that identifies them as "slaves" or "soldiers" of the "beast". (Revelation 13: 3, 4.) The enemies of God allow the mark of the beast, the mysterious number that contains its name, to be engraved on the forehead and in one hand. This gives them great opportunities for economic and commercial progress, but it brings them the wrath of God and excludes them from the millennial kingdom, Rev. 13:16; 14: 9; 20: 4 QUESTION: Is this mark irreversible, that is, can it not be erased? The people of the world have already been mar…
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Jesus himself said it. "No one knows the day or the hour." No one would be able to calculate when the kingdom started, because even Jesus didn't know the day or the hour. How could the governing body claim to know something our Lord said he didn't even know? The governing body claims to be a god, sitting in the temple of God. They are the lawless one. They have been revealed by the spirit of Jesus' mouth, as he said would happen before the great and fear inspiring day of Jehovah. "After that I will pour out my spirit on every sort of flesh, And your sons and your daughters will prophesy, Your old men will dream dreams, And your yo…
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Are you experiencing great tribulation? Have you ever experienced a tribulation that was so great and horrendous, that you thought you were just going to die? Well, you're not the only one. The whole world is going through some sort of tribulation in one way or another, and I am sure that you can attest to that. There is good news, this time period doesn't last forever, it does and will come to an end. Charles Taze Russell was a youth searching for the truth for a better life. He literally was walking by a building and heard singing in the basement which attracted his attention. He soon found out in his teenage years that the teachings of his…
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2034 and its significance... 2034 has a dual significance of several Bible Prophecies that will begin to unfold in the near future. One of those prophecies are in response to the 'short period of time' Satan has, known as the Last Days. "Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time." (Rev 12:12) 2034 doesn't represent the beginning of this period but rather the end of it. The Last Days would come to a close as th…
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Schwetzinger Zeitung 11 November 2017 Kurt Willy Triller’s credentials unknown Reformation Jubilee - Martin Luther also used this term for God / Over 1000 years old / Contained in many quotations from the Bible Don't forget the name Jehovah A lot is being written about Luther in the well-known press these days, and in particular his various translations of the Bible are mentioned. Unfortunately, one particular point is missing, namely that Martin Luther used the name of God Jehovah and drew attention to it. For Jehovah's Witnesses, their God Jehovah is everything. They have given themselves unreservedly to this God and want to contribute to the sa…
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The use of the word, “treachery” in the Bible is defined as an untruth, a sham; “lying words spoken by a lying witness” (Deut 19:18), “to prophesy false things” (Jer 5:31; 29:9). Treachery is “whatever deceives”, whatever is a fraud. (Ps 33:17) https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h8267/nkjv/wlc/0-1/ Whoever deliberately deceives by calling a lie, the “truth”, is a traitor to truth. Jesus was basically telling the Pharisees that they were traitors, having come under the rule of their father the liar, who is the ultimate creator of treachery. (Gen 3:2-4; John 8:44; Eph 6:11; Isa 33:1) They taught the doctrine of men and rebelled against truth in Jesus Chr…
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Merry Christmas friends/unfriends. I dont wish santa to visit your kids, or santa to visit at all. I see christ trees as what they are.....trees. But it is really interesting researching the origin of the Chirstian takeover of Saturnalia. Chirstmas time is a great time to visit historical facts, and a time to research Jesus and His takeover of pagan customs. But my personal 'merry christmas' is a thank you for God willing to empty it'self to a man and sacrificing his humanity in human form. So no merry christmas to you all, .....merry christmas to our lord and savior Jesus.
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There is nothing good that can be said about the abolitionist John Brown. He profaned the name of God and used his misunderstanding of scripture to justify his murderous rampage. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63389806-john-brown That doesn't mean he was wrong about 1914CE
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Hubble Space Telescope Spies Spiral Galaxy Edge-On A new image from the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope shows NGC 1032, a spiral galaxy seen almost edge-on. NGC 1032, discovered on December 18, 1783, by German-born British astronomer William Herschel, lies in the constellation of Cetus. Also known as LEDA 10060, UGC 2147 and IRAS F02367+0052, the galaxy is approximately 122 million light-years distant. NGC 1032 is actually a spectacular spiral galaxy, but from Earth, the galaxy’s vast disc of gas, dust and stars is seen nearly edge-on. A handful of other galaxies can be seen lurking in the background, scattered around the narrow stripe of NGC 1032. …
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"Following the model of first-century Christianity, Jehovah’s Witnesses have no clergy-laity division. All baptized Witnesses are ordained ministers and share in the preaching and teaching work. Witnesses are organized into congregations of about 100 believers. Spiritually mature men in each congregation serve as “older men,” or elders." https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/no-paid-clergy/ Is it true that JWs do not have a "clergy-laity" division? Contributed: If you are a JW and are waiting for the great tribulation to start, and a nation to invade your “spiritual paradise”, it is not going to happen as you've been told. As much as you want …
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“Today, Jehovah directs his organization in a way that reflects his personality, purpose, and standards.” w20 October p. 20-21 Is the organization directed by YHWH’s standards, or by “Jehovah’s” standards, a counterfeit name representing an earthly organization devised by men? This hybridized name emerged in 12-1300’s and was well published by the 1500’s. But surprisingly, research shows that the Greek form, ΙΕΗΩΟΥΑ has been found in gnostic (heretical, anti-biblical) writings, dating as far back as the second century. If a JW is reading this, how do you feel knowing that the name you apply to the Almighty God and which liberally falls off your tongue, had its ori…
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It's very possible. But there are a few scriptures indicate that many may not recognize this at first. “Even if [the vision] should delay, keep in expectation of it; for it will without fail come true. It will not be late.”—HABAKKUK 2:3. Evidently, it will be similar to the beginning of the last days in 1914 CE. Only a few recognized the timing of the troubling things to come. Even fewer recognized this troubled time would come to an end. Prophecies are a process. Notice this scripture, "Little by little I will drive them out from before you, until you become fruitful and take possession of the land." Exodus 23:30 The separation of the sheep to keep on livi…
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Jehovah's organization will be cleansed. The coalition of nations is his instrument to do away with both Babylon the Great and "Jezebel" (those who claim to be God's people but cling to false worship, those who bear false witness about holy ones and misuse authority to get them "killed" figuratively). Disfellowshipping tradition, mishandling abuse cases, paid clergy class ("special-full time servants" and "faithful and discreet slave" title misapplied), and many other traditions will be cleared out. "Start at my sanctuary, the elders in front of the house" is where the attack on Babylon will begin. All those "sighing and groaning over what is going on" in the organization…
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“No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and riches.” Luke 16:13 “We now come to the matter of being loyal to Jehovah’s visible organization.” Wt. 1996/3/15, p. 16-17 In 1994, the family moved to the shores of a beautiful lake nestled in the Sierra Mountains. Our first house was provided as a temporary dwelling through my husband’s employment with the park system and was located on the shores of the lake. It was late spring when we settled in, and the lake was getting busy with a progressive throng of tourists lounging on its w…
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I've seen 2 carts set up at insanely busy intersections, no one can pull over to talk to the jw's , if they want to they have to park illegally. And the bros and sisters just stand there for hours In nice weather. I don't see them when it's really hot or really cold. I remember I had to walk through freezing cold snowy mornings going door to door. The current day jw's are panzies, weak maybe fearful? What is going on with witnessing on street corners only? When the weather is good?
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I was cleaning out old papers today and came across a final exam. I'll post a picture in a minute.
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Do JWs consider the “anointed” governing leaders as priests? That identity is not spoken of much, whereas their self-appointed label of “faithful and discreet slave” is widely advertised. Of course, it would be an anointed priest who would fulfill that role, appointed only by Jesus and recognized as such, when he returns. (Matt 24:45-47; 25:21) The organization’s “daily text” for yesterday, November 10, mentions 1 Sam 13:8-12, where King Saul disregarded the prophet Samuel’s direction to wait for Samuel to return and offer a burnt sacrifice to God. Israel was “hard pressed” in conflict with the Philistines. (1 Sam 13:6,7) Samuel had previously told Saul to go a…
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