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  1. George88

    Can Satan speak the truth? 1 2 3 4

    by George88

    Pudgy, here's your golden opportunity to answer a crucial question: Can Satan actually tell the truth? Instead of deflecting as usual, I hope you'll provide a response this time. Previously, you have made the feeble attempt of distorting Pastor Russell's words and comprehension as an excuse. However, Pastor Russell clearly posed a thought-provoking question during his illustration, which I have shared with you. Can Satan, in any capacity, ever speak the truth? If you didn't grasp his intent, then it's important to address your misconceptions about the subject. It's evident that you have distorted the scripture to fit your own interpretation, regardless of who ta…

    George88
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  3. Srecko Sostar

    JWs sue Norwegian government 1 2 3 4 17

    by Srecko Sostar

    It is all about money, firstly. JW Ben Elder presentation: He says "I've been one of the JWs probably longer than I can remember". Here, WTJWorg himself refuted the claims that are being made in this court in Oslo, that children are not baptized, but only "adult children". lol He is the Director of an office called "Freedom of Worship" based in Germany. In conjunction with that is his role as the EAJW Representative (European Association of Jehovah's Witnesses). When asked by the Judge what his professional background is, he answers with the words that he is the Office Director and Office Manager. The judge actually asks him about his educational bac…

    Pudgy
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  4. JW Insider

    The Bible and Politics (and Israel and Russia and . . . ) 1 2 3 4

    by JW Insider

    As one of Jehovah's Witnesses, I always learned that you don't take sides in politics. In our family, this meant that you also don't discuss politics. Discussing it inevitably turns to offering opinions that favor one ideological side over another. But in a recent topic on the forum, several other JWs and/or those who have been associated with JWs brought up issues that appeared to take sides for or against the two major U.S. presidential candidates, as of April 2024. As factual commentary, this doesn't bother me in the slightest. In fact, if one favors one candidate over the other, this doesn't bother me either. But I just had a serious discussion about our (JW) vie…

    Pudgy
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  5. JW Insider

    I just got into JW.org’s Wi-Fi network. 1 2 3 4

    by JW Insider

    I just got into JW.ORG’s Wi-Fi network. That’s because they gave me the password and I’m sitting in the lobby. In fact someone gave me a card with the code on it. All you have to do is express a need for it. Like making a donation. lol.

    Pudgy
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  6. Srecko Sostar

    Lawyers who defended Catholic pedophiles are now defending JWs pedophiles 1 2 3 4 8

    by Srecko Sostar

    Attorney Matt Haverstick confirmed recently that his law firm is representing Jehovah’s Witnesses congregations around Pennsylvania on unspecified matters that are “very active right now.” - article from 2023: https://www.denverpost.com/2023/04/19/charges-put-focus-on-jehovahs-witnesses-handling-of-abuse-2/ quote from article: The 140-member Ivy Hill congregation sued Pennsylvania’s Department of Human Services, asking Commonwealth Court to clarify whether elders are mandated reporters if they learn of child abuse through a confidential confession. Human Services runs the state’s ChildLine abuse hotline. - article from 2018 about same Attorney Matt H…

    BTK59
    Last reply by BTK59,
  7. JW Insider

    Favorite Kingdom Songs

    by JW Insider

    At the mid-week meeting we had the Bible reading that included Psalm 26. We also sang song #34. It's a very beautiful melody, even though I have other favorites. What I like most about the song is that it follows the Psalm very closely. It's a good reminder that the words of the original Psalm 26 were also sung, even though we don't know the original melody. But the tune and music we use seem very appropriate for the tone of the Psalm itself. Last week, of course, we had this for the 23rd Psalm, too. And I think the same about that melody and how appropriate it is to the words of the Psalm.

    JW Insider
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  8. Matthew9969

    Acts 10 1 2

    by Matthew9969

    Acts 10 New International Version (NIV) Cornelius Calls for Peter 10 At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment. 2 He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. 3 One day at about three in the afternoon he had a vision. He distinctly saw an angel of God, who came to him and said, “Cornelius!” 4 Cornelius stared at him in fear. “What is it, Lord?” he asked. The angel answered, “Your prayers and gifts to the poor have come up as a memorial offering before God. 5 Now send men to Joppa to bring back a man named Simon who is called Pet…

    Pudgy
    Last reply by Pudgy,
  9. Pudgy

    THIS IS NOT SATIRE! THIS IS NOT PARODY. THIS IS DEMENTED INSANITY ON PARADE! 1 2 3

    by Pudgy

    This is headline news on the most watched cable news in America. America is doomed. The inmates are running the Insane Asylum.

    Pudgy
    Last reply by Pudgy,
  10. larryjohnson

    World Wide 2024 Declare the Good News! Sample Convention Invitation Letters and Telephone Scripts

    by larryjohnson

    World Wide 2024 Declare the Good News! Sample Convention Invitation Letters and Telephone Scripts World Wide 2024 Declare the Good News! Sample Convention Invitation Letters and Telephone Scripts.pdf

    George88
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  11. Srecko Sostar

    Update #2...3...4 and other 1 2 3 4

    by Srecko Sostar

    BTK59
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  12. BroRando

    The Last Days… When?

    by BroRando

    The Last Days… When? “But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here.  For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal,  having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness,  betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God,  having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.” (2 Timothy 3:1-5) The Last Days (pangs of distress) do not last for an exhaustive period of time but do have an en…

    Pudgy
    Last reply by Pudgy,
  13. George88

    Uncovering Discrepancies in Secular History 1 2 3 4 13

    by George88

    BTK, are you suggesting that 568 BC is an invalid date? We can make good use of VAT 4956 since the 37th year of Nebuchadnezzar can be found in other historical content, not just that insignificant astronomical tablet. Apostates often misuse that date to support the claim of 587 BC, but let's explore its true significance. The 13 lunar readings are indicative of the commencement of specific kings' reigns. Some historians mention the starting reign of King Waphres in 589/8 BC, and he died in 568/7 BC. By considering secular history alone, we discover that after Nebuchadnezzar's growing disappointment with the kings of Judah, the temple was burned down in 588 BC. If we …

    BTK59
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  14. xero

    Trying to nail down 612 BCE as the date of Nineveh's destruction 1 2 3 4 36

    by xero

    I get relative measurements w/regard to regnal years and the like as that will allow you shift right or left, but no matter where I look, I get bloviating when it comes to how this exact date was decided upon. I need to know what they used as a starting point. I haven't found any astronomical events used, I'm not taking anyone's word for it, or "Experts agree". I need to see the argument in the form of premise, premise, conclusion. I want all the connecting dots, not an inky wash of academic bloviance.

    TrueTomHarley
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  15. JW Insider

    The wonderful world of ChatGPT!! . . . and "humor"? 1 2

    by JW Insider

    I pay $20 a month to OpenAI to play with their 4.0+ version of ChatGPT. It's not really an expense because I still do some remote consulting for a tech company in Ohio. Today, I decided to try out its ability to draw pictures on demand. I wanted a picture of a man about to curse because he just hit his thumb with a hammer, and I want his wife, to put her fingers in the "ears" of their pet parrot, so that the parrot doesn't pick up any bad words to repeat. So here goes: Prompt: I need a New Yorker style cartoon containing man hammering a nail in the wall and accidentally hitting his thumb. At the same time a woman, presumably his wife, is standing nex…

    xero
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  16. Srecko Sostar

    3 in 1 - "Biblical Principles", "Lists of Rules" and "Bible-Trained Conscience" = "Best Life Ever", according to the recipe from GB

    by Srecko Sostar

    JWs have always had and will continue to have, as can be seen from everything, problems to harmonize the so-called "biblical principles", "lists of rules" and "bible-trained conscience". Basically, it turns out that it's best for JWs "to stick" to what GB says, because that way they won't "make mistakes" and won't "stumble" anyone. lol

    George88
    Last reply by George88,
  17. Ann O'Maly

    Why banning the Jehovah’s Witnesses won’t work for Russia

    by Ann O'Maly

    Why banning the Jehovah’s Witnesses won’t work for Russia BY EMILY B. BARAN APRIL 20TH 2017 The Supreme Court of Russia has a decision to make this week about whether to label the Jehovah’s Witnesses an extremist organization and liquidate its assets. This act would transform the religious community into a criminal network, and make individual Witnesses vulnerable to arrest simply for speaking about their faith with others. While the court case has attracted recent media attention, this move is the culmination of two decades of increasing state hostility to Witnesses. In the late 1990s, Moscow took the Witnesses to c…

    BTK59
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  18. Matthew9969

    Not sure what to title this. 1 2

    by Matthew9969

    I've known young people who committed suicide after being shunned/disfellowshipped. I was one of those who tried to kill himself after being disassociated several years ago. I've talked with dozens of young disfellowshipped ones. In the past 30 years I've talked with parents of children who committed suicide due to being disfellowshipped. I wanted to share this.... How are they going to address the parents of young people that committed suicide after being disfellowshipped or marked? IMO the parent should sue the governing body for emotional manipulation and emotional distress for forcing them to cut off their own children, even grown children. That includes c…

    Pudgy
    Last reply by Pudgy,
  19. JW Insider

    New Light on Beards 1 2 3 4 40

    by JW Insider

    https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/StudioFeatured/docid-702023024_1_VIDEO

    George88
    Last reply by George88,
  20. JW Insider

    Bible-Related Timelines supported by Archaeology but without Astronomy 1 2

    by JW Insider

    In this topic, I'd like to see how much we can learn about Bible timeline as it relates to Jewish history and what we know about Egypt, Assyria, and Babylon. But let's see how far we can get using only references from the Bible and from archaeology. And only from NON-ASTRONOMY-RELATED archaeology. Therefore, there will be no BCE dates argued or discussed. We already have other topics for that. Also, I'll try to keep myself more organized, and keep the topic more organized. To that end, here are the proposed guidelines: Unrelated comments get moved to a subtopic (to be created and linked). Comments are to be strictly on the topic of Bible-related timelin…

    Pudgy
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  21. George88

    Misc Posts moved from "Chronology without Astronomy" Topic

    by George88

    I was just about to engage in a productive debate until I saw this "ad hominem" comment about sock puppets. Maybe this is better suited within your group in the closed club. So, I'm out! I would start with the creative designation of the Watchtower 4026 with that of Thiele, 4004, and have individuals take it from that point of view. Good Luck!

    BTK59
    Last reply by BTK59,
  22. Jack Ryan

    Went to a wedding and 70% of all those in attendance left about 40 minutes after the ceremony 1 2 3

    by Jack Ryan

    I'm a 21 yo PIMO on the West coast. My family and I attended a wedding this past Saturday and I was completely disgusted by my family's and congregation's behavior. The couple that got married are both studies, so they didn't get married at the Kingdom Hall. However they requested an elder to give the wedding ceremony talk (and I call it a talk because it was 95% scriptures and 5% about the couple) and they invited mostly JWs aside from their families. Everything was going pretty well, until about 40 min after the ceremony. I just finished eating when my dad whispered to my brother and I that we had to leave because there was a DF'd woman that was invited. I sin…

    Pudgy
    Last reply by Pudgy,
  23. Srecko Sostar

    Was Jesus an "unbaptized publisher" when he was 12?

    by Srecko Sostar

    What is the biblical basis for the existence of the status called "unbaptized publisher"? This is how it is explained in the JW cartoon. Of course, some elements in this interpretation are outdated doctrine that is no longer valid. If we exclude the "small unimportant detail" that "hours no longer count", the question still remains: Did Jesus become an "unbaptized preacher at the age of 12"? And if so, how? Key words in this video are: license, approved, elders, desire to be JW = unbaptized publisher. Are those words in Bible, too? pk_E_048_r720P.mp4

    Srecko Sostar
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  24. Srecko Sostar

    Jehovah's Witnesses lose court battle over disclosing records on 2 ex-members - British Columbia 1 2 3

    by Srecko Sostar

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-jehovahs-witness-privacy-battle-1.7079252 The B.C. Supreme Court has ruled against two congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses that tried to argue their religious freedoms were infringed when the information and privacy commissioner ordered them to turn over records containing personal information about two former members. On Monday, Justice Steven Wilson upheld an order requiring the Coldstream and Grand Forks congregations to disclose records concerning the ex-members' breaks with the church to the Office of the Information and Privacy Commissioner (OIPC). The Jehovah's Witnesses had argued that the s…

    Srecko Sostar
    Last reply by Srecko Sostar,
  25. JW Insider

    Forum participants we have known 1 2 3 4 10

    by JW Insider

    AlanF commented quite often on this forum when he was alive. He and @scholar JW had a history going back for many years —decades—according to scholar JW. Same with Ann O’maly whom scholar JW also appeared to have communicated with for many past years. I hated AlanF’s position on evolution and complete dismissal of much of Genesis but I appreciated that both he and Ann O’maly were much more knowledgeable about neo-Babylonian chronology that I am. By a long shot. They both corrected me publicly with good evidence on several mistakes I made here while learning the topic. I always appreciate corrections by anyone, even a "public reproof."

    JW Insider
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  26. BroRando

    The End of Wickedness is now at hand!

    by BroRando

    Imagine a time when people no longer treat one another like animals. I know, it’s hard to fathom. After all, religion herself is the cause for many wars, causing strife and hatred that permeates mankind, but not for much longer. These manifestations will soon reveal themselves all over the world and is also known as the revealing of the Son of Man. This phase is the third and final phase known as the revelation phase of the Presence of Christ. One would think that all of mankind would welcome such a wonderful environment but the majority of earth’s inhabitants will actually reject and fight against this revelation tooth and nail, for mankind’s inhabitants as a whole …

    BroRando
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  27. JW Insider

    ACTUAL evidence Nebuchadnezzar's 18th is 587 BCE. TEN TIMES BETTER evidence than for Cyrus in 539? 1 2 3 4

    by JW Insider

    There is NO Bible evidence for 539 BCE. There is NO Bible evidence for 587 BCE. There is NO Bible evidence for 607 BCE. I think most of us understand that by now. So, I propose this new thread/topic where we shift the focus almost exclusively to the basic, fundamental question about the strength of the secular evidence in the Neo-Babylonian period. Why do we rely on it? Why does the WTS rely on secular Babylonian astronomer's evidence for Cyrus in 539? Why does the WTS reject the same evidence for Nebuchadnezzar's 18th year? Is the evidence for Nebuchadnezzar's years actually 10 times better than for Cyrus? When that question is solved, it also resolves the ent…

    JW Insider
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  28. Srecko Sostar

    Who likes to talk about what, if not religious leaders about money

    by Srecko Sostar

    So, GB and their supporters/Helpers take care that even the smallest donation of a poor sister or brother is not taxed by the state. Truly, wonderful JWs brothers/elders who care for the needs of the flock. If soft and persistent language does not help in persuading government officials to get a lower tax or a complete tax exemption, then GB advises the last measure, which is to ... sue them, all of them. lol

    Srecko Sostar
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  29. Bible Speaks

    Maybe It’s Not Cold On the Moon? ~ ?

    by Bible Speaks

    Maybe It’s Not Cold On the Moon? ~ ? We have been there though? - Fly me to the moon? - ??? - I like the Song too! ?

    Pudgy
    Last reply by Pudgy,
  30. Bible Speaks

    "[Jonah] kept proclaiming and saying: “Only forty days more, and Nineveh will be overthrown.”—Jonah 3:4. – ?????

    by Bible Speaks

    "[Jonah] kept proclaiming and saying: “Only forty days more, and Nineveh will be overthrown.”—Jonah 3:4. ????? Is it reasonable to believe that the Ninevites would repent in sackcloth at the warning of Jonah? ????? Commissioned a second time to go to Nineveh, he undertook the long journey there. “Finally Jonah started to enter into the city the walking distance of one day, and he kept proclaiming and saying: ‘Only forty days more, and Nineveh will be overthrown.’” (Jon 3:1-4) Whether Jonah knew Assyrian or was miraculously endowed with ability to speak that language is not revealed in the Bible. He may even have spoken Hebrew, his proclamation la…

    Pudgy
    Last reply by Pudgy,
  31. Juan Rivera

    Paul's Letter to the Galatians and the Struggle for Doctrinal Purity 1 2 3 4 29

    by Juan Rivera

    @JW Insider @Many Miles JW insider, I’ll write something up shortly, but feel free to change the title to narrow down the discussion or if @Many Miles wants to lay the issues out. I don’t want to impose, or give the wrong impression to whoever wants to participate.

    Pudgy
    Last reply by Pudgy,



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