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babblings, I get your point, but the article makes two statements at the same time:
1- In fact, some appointed brothers have beards.  (I, too, have never seen someone on the stage or in a publication, with the exception of character portrayals, with a beard, so I don't know where they are appointed.)

2-  In other cultures or localities, beards are not the custom and are not considered acceptable for Christian ministers. In fact, having one may hinder a brother from bringing glory to God by his dress and grooming and his being irreprehensible. (This would not be the case for anywhere in the USA that I know of.  Beards and the wearing of such are customarily done across this country. Some wear them only during specific times, as in NH where I was living, but now that I'm in TX I see people in beards quite often. So, culture nor locality don't appear to be a factor for a brother living in the US.)

STILL:

P16 state - "Yet, fellow believers will likely note and appreciate ...the satisfaction we have of bringing glory to our loving heavenly Father more than makes up for any inconveniences that we may face to dress so as to glorify him."

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I agree with all of your statements djsqueeze. I think that beards are like any other forms of fashion. Some brothers like a beard some don't. Just like some brothers don't wear pink shirts. Or some don't like bowties. Or certain people don't like certain haircuts. It's all opinion based. It's not necessarily something that is bringing reproach upon jehovahs name or detracting from our message. But so many are set in their ways about beards I think it'll be hard for them to accept it. I'm in Ohio and already 3 brothers here wear a beard but brothers do not like it. And won't let them do anything or give part on school. So I guess time will tell. 

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I know a brother in Europe, who is an elder and has a beard. And I know several brothers who are serving as ministerial Servants and have beards.

Ultimately in the USA it will be up to the local elders to decide whether a beard is acceptable in their area or not. When the WT came out last May, our CO said that come end of the year, he expects many brothers (in the US) will be sporting a beard.  I am fine with that, as long as as sisters don't start that trend too :D

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Just now, Anna said:

I know a brother in Europe, who is an elder and has a beard. He conducts the WT study. And I know several brothers who are serving as ministerial Servants and have beards.

Ultimately in the USA it will be up to the local elders to decide whether a beard is acceptable in their area or not. When the WT came out last May, our CO said that come end of the year, he expects many brothers (in the US) will be sporting a beard.  I am fine with that, as long as as sisters don't start that trend too :D

 

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37 minutes ago, Anna said:

I know a brother in Europe, who is an elder and has a beard. And I know several brothers who are serving as ministerial Servants and have beards.

Ultimately in the USA it will be up to the local elders to decide whether a beard is acceptable in their area or not. When the WT came out last May, our CO said that come end of the year, he expects many brothers (in the US) will be sporting a beard.  I am fine with that, as long as as sisters don't start that trend too :D

Hahaha.....   thats  nice  and  funny xD

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Anna that's awesome. The only problem is so many are not open to the idea so the first few of us that start to grow beards are looked at strangely. I don't wish to stumble any but at the same time not sure how a beard would cause that. Brother Lett in his morning worship talk even mentioned that growing a beard is our choice just like a sister wearing makeup. But if it will stumble others we should be careful to exercise that choice. I have a beard that is trimmed right now and oh boy not many like it. Lol

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I see exactly what you are saying Allensmith. But beards are ok. Brother Lett even mentioned that for a brother to wear a beard is a personal choice just as it is for a sister to wear makeup. This is newer information. And our sept 2016 watchtower addresses it as well. In the US it is custom for many to wear beards as is in most other countries and many brothers in the US have neatly trimmed beards it's a matter of time before a lot more also have them. It's a personal preference decision right now. And that's it. 

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I don't think it's New Light necessarily but rather a change in thinking. In past most brothers were clean shaven. But after a lot of the international conventions recently where brothers from other areas had beards and a lot of one's in areas that didn't saw this the society did a little CLARIFYING of the topic on beards. Many still do not agree with it. But it is a personal decision each one has to make. 

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Yeah I read the article. There are a lot of cultures that associate a beard with certain sects. None in the US that I'm aware of. As beards are pretty well customary nowadays. I'm hoping that in the near future there will be more clarification on the issue. A friend of mine in Texas is a MS and wears a beard and ive seen a few in Florida as well. I think it's just something that will slowly catch on. But there will still be some who aren't a fan of the idea. But only jehovah knows what will happen. I prefer a beard myself. I be never enjoyed shaving. I had a full beard at 13. And have a 5 of clock shadow at noon haha. But to keep from stumbling others I still am clean shaven for meetings and service. 

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I think this is where the difficulties arise

Some say that beards are pretty well customary nowadays - while other would say that that is not the case. In some cultures beards are the norm, most people have them - i am thinking Asian lands and you are the exception if you do not have one.

Whilst in other parts of the world the opposite is true - most, the vast majority do not have them but the occasional person does and so the custom in those parts of the world is not to have a beard.

The fact that we might know the odd one or two that have beards goes to prove the point that they are the exception to the majority around them.

 

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18 hours ago, Damiensouthernohio said:

Anna that's awesome. The only problem is so many are not open to the idea so the first few of us that start to grow beards are looked at strangely. I don't wish to stumble any but at the same time not sure how a beard would cause that. Brother Lett in his morning worship talk even mentioned that growing a beard is our choice just like a sister wearing makeup. But if it will stumble others we should be careful to exercise that choice. I have a beard that is trimmed right now and oh boy not many like it. Lol

It will be looked at strangely at first, but people will get used to it. One has to also wonder what it is about a beard that is so stubbling, I mean stumbling? :D We know Jesus most likely had one. It's a kind of prejudice really. Also, anything that is new, people usually react in a defensive way, it's just imperfect human nature, since whether we are conscious of it or not, we are always judging and usually in a critical way. Mostly those who are stumbled by things like this are spiritually immature.The main thing I think that will be the deciding factor locally, is how a beard is perceived in the ministry. But I doubt any householder is going to think, "My, that person had a beard!!" Worldly people tend to be a lot more tolerant than we think. If they are accepting of homosexuals, surely they won't mind a little facial growth?

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9 hours ago, Eoin Joyce said:

Can't be new light can it?

Beards.jpg

Yeah, I noticed this brother in the Kingdom Book. And there was another one (in the WT) with the horse cart I think. One thing we can be sure of, Jehovah doesn't care whether a brother has a beard or not. As long as he is presentable and neat. It's a man made rule anyway, just like covering up body parts.

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For  Jehovah  ONLY  our  heart ❤  is  importend !!!!  Not  a  beard  or  the  clothes !!  NO.......  think  to  the  poor  widow....  The  honest  heart  inside our  body  is  importend  for  Jehovah, 

23 minutes ago, djsqueeze said:

Bros. n Sis. 

Please be careful responding to Eoin Joyce. Prior comments and posts appear to have apostate leanings.

Please,  be  careful  with  your  words.... comment !!

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1 hour ago, djsqueeze said:

Bros. n Sis. 

Please be careful responding to Eoin Joyce. Prior comments and posts appear to have apostate leanings.

Oh I see, so you are one of these vigilante brothers/sisters who thinks that no one else can see or understand anything as well as they can. Well you are actually completely wrong about Eoin. Please get your facts right before you judge someone adversely. I can private message you a list of who are the apostates or have apostate leanings on this forum, and Eoin Joyce isn't one of them.

Proverbs 13:18

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2 hours ago, djsqueeze said:

 

Bros. n Sis. 

Please be careful responding to Eoin Joyce. Prior comments and posts appear to have apostate leanings.

 

This posting could be taken as offensive and/or immature. I can see from your comments about beards that you are only just getting on your feet again so I'll stick with the latter and overlook it.

Proverbs 12:18 would be a useful addition to your "equipment", as would the prayer at Ps 17:5. :)

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7 hours ago, Anna said:

Oh I see, so you are one of these vigilante brothers/sisters who thinks that no one else can see or understand anything as well as they can. Well you are actually completely wrong about Eoin. Please get your facts right before you judge someone adversely. I can private message you a list of who are the apostates or have apostate leanings on this forum, and Eoin Joyce isn't one of them.

Proverbs 13:18

Ooops! I realized I'd inverted the scripture. (I have number dyslexia :D) it's Proverbs 18:13. Oh the imperfection. But the other scripture is good too :) 

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