1975 and the Jehovah's Witnesses

[JW Insider]

4 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Now he apparently cloned himself and I see several manifestations of himself. Let no one say  @AllenSmith is not an enigma. 

Has he ever been rude? Probably. But there are no end of people here who have been nearly as rude, and countless ones who are deliberately offensive, attributing evil motive to Witness headship when they have no basis whatsoever for doing so. Besides, as long as we are quoting Greek on this thread, let us quote Aristotle: No great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness. Cut him slack. He brings legal decisions to the table that nobody else thinks of.

Not to start any controversy, but I would agree. I came on this site mostly because it seemed like a place where I could discuss some items of interest (and some of controversy) where it was not flooded with ex-JWs, and at least some of my opinions could be challenged. I have found Allen, so far, to provide appropriate challenges to my opinions. By the way, it is not just recently that Allen has begun cloning himself. A careful look at the posts from over a dozen other names will reveal this, and also reveal that it's been going on for a few years. But that doesn't really matter, it's not about the personalities and avatars and accounts, but the ideas themselves. He has sometimes behaved like a cyber bully, in going after specific people. But I for one am not concerned about that. I think he is often responding to what he honestly perceives as cyber bullying against himself. Most of what people are referring to is just annoying behavior, which many of us have engaged in. Annoying behavior is not cyber bullying unless it always targets specific individuals. I've never made multiple accounts for myself, but I'm sure I have engaged in annoying behavior. But then, so has Vic Vomidog and some of his ilk.

[DespicableME]

LOL!!! Cyberbullying and multiple accounts that everyone is guilty of.

 

 

 

 

[Vic Vomidog]

3 hours ago, JW Insider said:

I've never made multiple accounts for myself, but I'm sure I have engaged in annoying behavior. But then, so has Vic Vomidog and some of his ilk.

Arrgghhh! It is nothing but scurrilous slander!! I'll not take it, I tell ye. How do ye feel about walking the plank, ye braggart?

I have never once engaged in annoying behavior or an extra account!

[TrueTomHarley]

1 minute ago, Vic Vomidog said:

I have never once engaged in annoying behavior or an extra account!

I can vouch for him. He never did.

[Anna]

On 12/3/2017 at 5:18 PM, Noble Berean said:

On 12/3/2017 at 5:03 PM, Anna said:

But maybe we should make this another topic.

Sorry how do I go about that?

There is more than one way, and depending on what device you are using. If you are on a PC, or laptop, there should be an option at the top right hand corner next to "following" and  "reply to this topic" and then there should be "start new topic", you click on that and then put in your title, tags, and the body of your topic and then click submit topic. Or you can go to the complete top right hand side  where you see "create", you click on that and then chose topic, another little window will open and you chose religion -> Abrahamic religions -> Christan -> Jehovah's Witnesses - and then pic one of the subjects you want your topic under, like Bible discussion or whatever, and then you go through the steps I already described to post your topic. Hope that works!

[TrueTomHarley]

3 minutes ago, Anna said:

There is more than one way, and depending on what device you are using.

It's a trap, @Noble Berean!! Don't fall for it!

[TrueTomHarley]

On 12/4/2017 at 6:19 PM, TrueTomHarley said:

We say Witnesses got all excited over something that turned out to be a big nothingburger. Give them the short answer - ‘Everyone is allowed one failed end-of-world date per lifetime. It is in the rules’ - and be done with it.

The strategy to blow opposers off with a quick answer is the same one Jesus used many times, both to opponents and to those who just wanted a quick fix. Later, with his faithful disciples he (sometimes) explained matters in more detail. 

[DespicableME]

1 hour ago, TrueTomHarley said:

The strategy to blow opposers off with a quick answer is the same one Jesus used many times, both to opponents and to those who just wanted a quick fix. Later, with his faithful disciples he (sometimes) explained matters in more detail.

LOL!!!

[Alithís Gnosis]

There seems to be a preoccupation with times and dates about 1975. For those of you that consider bible prophecy? Then today plays well, *IF* Donald Trump announces to have the Capital of Israel moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, as indicated by the media.

That would be in agreement with those that stay on the watch. Luke 21:36

1947-2017 70 weeks

1967-2017 1 Jubilee

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/05/middleeast/trump-jerusalem-explainer-intl/index.html

 

http://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/70-week-prophecy-daniel

[JW Insider]

3 hours ago, DespicableME said:

 

I read this book several years ago. An excellent explanation of the JEPD Documentary Hypothesis. At least it showed why a lot of people believe the theory.

[JW Insider]

22 minutes ago, Alithís Gnosis said:

Then today plays well, *IF* Donald Trump announces to have the Capital of Israel moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, as indicated by the media.

That would be in agreement with those that stay on the watch. Luke 21:36

1947-2017 70 weeks

1967-2017 1 Jubilee

Seemingly meaningless. Why would a Jubilee start in 1967? Also, how could a week equal a year so that 70 weeks is 70 years?

[TrueTomHarley]

45 minutes ago, Alithís Gnosis said:

*IF* Donald Trump announces to have the Capital of Israel moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, as indicated by the media.

....1947-2017 70 weeks     1967-2017 1 Jubilee

It would accomplish two irresistible aims of certain religionists. (Thank God they are not us)

It would validate those Middle Ages portrayals of the Savior with golden flowing hair.

It would affirm the U.S.A. as God's chosen vehicle.