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There seems to be a preoccupation with times and dates about 1975. For those of you that consider bible prophecy? Then today plays well, *IF* Donald Trump announces to have the Capital of Israel moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, as indicated by the media.

That would be in agreement with those that stay on the watch. Luke 21:36

1947-2017 70 weeks

1967-2017 1 Jubilee

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/05/middleeast/trump-jerusalem-explainer-intl/index.html

 

http://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/70-week-prophecy-daniel

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22 minutes ago, Alithís Gnosis said:

Then today plays well, *IF* Donald Trump announces to have the Capital of Israel moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, as indicated by the media.

That would be in agreement with those that stay on the watch. Luke 21:36

1947-2017 70 weeks

1967-2017 1 Jubilee

Seemingly meaningless. Why would a Jubilee start in 1967? Also, how could a week equal a year so that 70 weeks is 70 years?

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45 minutes ago, Alithís Gnosis said:

*IF* Donald Trump announces to have the Capital of Israel moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, as indicated by the media.

....1947-2017 70 weeks     1967-2017 1 Jubilee

It would accomplish two irresistible aims of certain religionists. (Thank God they are not us)

It would validate those Middle Ages portrayals of the Savior with golden flowing hair.

It would affirm the U.S.A. as God's chosen vehicle.

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On 12/3/2017 at 1:33 AM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

and I made many cartoons making fun of the ludicrousness of the 1975 frenzy. 

did you make your cartoons during the 1975 "frenzy" ?

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Just steering a little back to 1975, I think maybe the confusion and conflict in this thread regarding what "really" happened apparently come from the fact that some of us are talking about stage 2 and 3, and others about stage 4 and 5. So two different aspects of what was said about 1975, and both aspects are true.

The 5 stages as posted by JWI, as a refresher:

1.The initial idea is floated, often with a bit of caution.

2.Then someone is sure enough to begin championing the prediction and begins to stake their reputation on it.

3.Then as confidence builds, those statements become more and more direct and less careful.

4.Then as the time approaches and the kinds of surrounding expectations that might have validated the prediction aren't there yet, real caution kicks in, and if necessary, some backtracking begins.

5. After the failure is obvious, we can expect blame and finger-pointing.

 

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Just so you know @DespicableME, I removed my own comment regarding a link about a porn star who left the JWs. With that comment gone, your comment in response to it (referencing Ruud) seemed even more out of place, so I deleted it along with mine. I didn't do this as a censorship, just didn't want to make your comment seem more awkward than it was.

Just so you know @Srecko Sostar someone (not me) moved your comments about copyright to a new topic, linked below, so I moved the other followup comments from this topic over there too, which included a couple of my responses. I ended up dragging over about 10 comments that had veered off onto that topic, also affecting comments by @DespicableME and @Noble Berean

 

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On 12/5/2017 at 10:30 AM, JW Insider said:

But, we've just touched a few things: like the generation. Ahhh! [purposely making a sound as if something was bad-tasting in his throat and he needed to spit it out] Twenty years ago we -- "Ahhh" -- the generation. [with a dismissive hand movement] And now we know all about that generation, right?

 

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