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This makes me feel very uncomfortable. There was the animation where Sophia decided to forego her ice cream and put money in the contribution box instead; then there was the praise given by one of the GB on JW Broadcasting to one little girl who sent in cash with a card and photo; and now the concept of children donating to the Org. is further embedded with this little puzzle activity.

Question: If a charity produced a TV commercial, show or website which was specifically designed to influence young children to donate their pocket money to their cause, would you as parents, carers or objective observers think this was appropriate targeting? 

 

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It's certainly right to protect children from exploitation. And direct targeting of children, independent of their carers, by any organisation, (although prevalent), I find distasteful. Obviously, it is illegal in some contexts.

However, I would have thought most parents, carers etc., like to help children to be unselfish and caring and aware of ways to help toward charitable causes. So I do not object to making children aware of these things in principle.

And it seems children are very willing help if they are made aware of the need, with the BBC in 2013 reporting on a new survey which suggested that primary school children give up to £20 million each year to charity! This worked out as each child giving around £2 of their pocket money to charities every month. http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/21771068

Children donating funds to, participating in, and even organizing charitable activities appears to generally meet with approval as many news items indicate.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/13410154.Children_donate_pocket_money_to_buy_gifts_for_refugee_and_asylum_families/

http://www.theguardian.com/voluntary-sector-network/2015/jun/19/philanthroteens-young-people-who-use-their-pocket-money-to-change-the-world

http://www.kidspot.com.au/Family-Budget-Kids-and-money-Kids-donating-to-charity+1787+157+article.htm

I do not approve of what I have experienced in the past with the more directly child-targeted endeavors of some organisations raising money for adopting animals, environmental causes, and the like. Some of my children experienced their direct methods through children's magazines, animal parks, or even well meaning school teacher initiatives, in years past. (Creating situations a bit like those caused by child-level sweet counters at supermarket checkouts!). I did not object to their causes, but to their methods.

However, I have found that the various encouragements for children to contribute towards the activities of Jehovah's Witnesses are generally presented in the context of family-based activities with parental/carer involvement.

Therefore, I do not see anything sinister in parents, carers, responsible adults making children aware of, or involving them in supporting Jehovah's Witness activities. I see it as a duty and part of a Christian up-bringing. The videos, experiences, printable excercises etc. on jw.org I just see as a means to that end.

Of course, if one objected to the aims and objectives or tenets of the organisation, then any attempts it made to get support, financial or otherwise, would be objectionable.

 

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On 3/24/2016 at 11:09 AM, Eoin Joyce said:

And it seems children are very willing help if they are made aware of the need, with the BBC in 2013 reporting on a new survey which suggested that primary school children give up to £20 million each year to charity! 

Yes, did you happen to notice the different types of charities that those kids donated to? I looked through your links and noticed that these charities support not a single organization, but rather the good of all. That is in far contrast to the WTS. Does the WTS have a nursing home? Do they have women's shelters? Orphanages? Food banks? What form of assistance can you get from the WTS if you need it? I'm sorry but I just do not see the WTS as a charity.

Full Definition of charity

plural charities

  1. 1:  benevolent goodwill toward or love of humanity

  2. 2a :  generosity and helpfulness especially toward the needy or suffering; also :  aid given to those in needb :  an institution engaged in relief of the poorc :  public provision for the relief of the needy

  3. 3a :  a gift for public benevolent purposesb :  an institution (as a hospital) founded by such a gift

  4. 4:  lenient judgment of others

 

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Based upon the definition of charity, they don't qualify.  I noticed you wanted to comment, but not address the questions I raised. 

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On 4/14/2016 at 0:57 AM, Shiwiii said:

Based upon the definition of charity, they don't qualify.  I noticed you wanted to comment, but not address the questions I raised. 

In order for an organization to qualify as a charity, or to have a charitable status, regardless of your definition or the dictionary's  definition, it has to meet specific requirements of the country awarding the charitable status. Obviously, Jehovah's Witnesses meet those requirements in many countries.

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On 12/17/2016 at 1:51 PM, Anna said:

In order for an organization to qualify as a charity, or to have a charitable status, regardless of your definition or the dictionary's  definition, it has to meet specific requirements of the country awarding the charitable status. Obviously, Jehovah's Witnesses meet those requirements in many countries.

you are correct, however just because you call a zebra a dog doesn't make it so, regardless of what the law states. 

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On 12/19/2016 at 11:12 AM, Shiwiii said:

you are correct, however just because you call a zebra a dog doesn't make it so, regardless of what the law states. 

Not really a good argument, since no doubt the law doesn't just arbitrarily qualify something to be called by a particular name just for kicks and giggles, or an organization to be designated a function unless the law is reasonably sure that the organization qualifies. It would not be in the interest of the law makers to do so otherwise. 

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15 hours ago, Anna said:

Not really a good argument, since no doubt the law doesn't just arbitrarily qualify something to be called by a particular name just for kicks and giggles, or an organization to be designated a function unless the law is reasonably sure that the organization qualifies. It would not be in the interest of the law makers to do so otherwise. 

So then you truly believe that "The Naked Clown" charity and "Welfare Group Disabled and Sexuality" charity are on par with the wt. They qualify by the law. You're trying to defend the indefensible, not all laws are written properly and MANY take advantage of those loopholes.  

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    • -购买创意艺术大学书q/微1851304262造假创意艺术大学毕业证【购买成绩单】offer、办理学生卡、制作在读证明/英国假文凭假学历/可查学历认证书University for the Creative Arts 咨询办理专业海外留学生毕业证,咨询顾问CharlesQ/微:1851304262成绩单,教育部认证、留信认证、大使馆认证、假毕业证,制作假成绩单,仿造假文凭学历,购买假学历文凭,制做毕业证文凭,仿冒文凭毕业证,代办毕业证认证,留服认证,使馆认证,使馆公证,使馆证明,使馆留学回国人员证明,留学生认证,学历认证,文凭认证,学位认证,留学生学历认证,留学生学位认证,使馆认证(留学回国人员证明),学生卡(证),成绩单,在读证明,快速办理录取通知书offer 回国人员证明 一、快速办理材料: 1、毕,业证+成绩单+留学回国人员证明+教育部学历认证(全套留学回国必备证明材料,给父母及亲朋好友一份完美交代); 2、雅思、托福,OFFER,在读证明,学生卡等留学相关材料(申请学校、转学,甚至是申请工签都可以用到)。 注:上述材料,随时都可以安排办理,毕,业证成绩单,学校,专业,学位,毕业时间都可以根据客户要求安排。 二、办理流程: 1、收集客户办理信息; 2、客户付定金下单; 3、公司确认到账转制作点做电子图; 4、电子图做好发给客户确认; 5、电子图确认好转成品部做成品; 6、成品做好拍照或者视频确认再付余款; 7、快递给客户(国内顺丰,国外DHL)。 三、真实网上可查的证明材料 1、教育部学历学位认证,留服真实存档可查,存档。 2、留学回国人员证明(使馆认证),使馆网站真实存档可查。 四、办理流程 1、客户提供相关材料,确定客户办理信息,给出操作方案; 2、补充毕业证成绩单等相关材料; 3、留服注册申请账号,付定金; 4、预约递交时间,公司人员陪同客户本人一起去留服递交材料; 5、等待结果,完成结果书留服直接邮寄给客户 6、客户确认收到结果,付余款。 我们对海外大学及学院的毕业证成绩单所使用的材料,尺寸大小,防伪结构(包括:水印,阴影底纹,钢印LOGO烫金烫银,LOGO烫金烫银复合重叠。 文字图案浮雕,激光镭射,紫外荧光,温感,复印防伪)都有原版本文凭对照。质量得到了广大海外客户群体的认可,同时和海外学校留学中介, 同时能做到与时俱进,及时掌握各大院校的(毕业证,成绩单,资格证,学生卡,结业证,录取通知书,在读证明等相关材料)的版本更新信息, 能够在时间掌握的海外学历文凭的样版,尺寸大小,纸张材质,防伪技术等等,并在时间收集到原版 实物,以求达到客户的需求。 我们的优势: [效率优势]保证在约定的时间内完成任务,视频语音电话查询完成进度。 [品质优势]与学校颁发的相关证件1:1纸质尺寸制定(定期向各大院校毕业生购买版本毕业证成绩单保证您拿到的是学校内部版本毕业证成绩单) [保密优势]我们绝不向任何个人或组织泄露您的隐私,致力于在充分保护你隐私的前提下,为您提供更优质的体验和服务。完成交易,删除客户资料 [价格优势]我们在保证合理定价的同时,坚持较高性价比,通过品质和效率不断优化,为您倾情诠释什么是高性价比。 留信网认证的用途: 主要是提供境外院校资质查询,留学生专业人才证书申报,就业推荐这些服务,海外留学生高等院校学位成绩单认证和在读证明的翻译服务,提供留学生回国就业服务,可以人才存档,失业补贴,可以大额贷款等,.留学生就业指导,福利优惠政策证明学生的留学生身份可以在网上查询到留学时的相关信息、比如专业,入学和毕业时间什么。 回国人员证明的用途: 留学生回国重要的身份和经历证明及购买免税国产小汽车的凭证,而且在创办企业、安排工作、落转户口、子女入学、多生子女上户口、购置住房、申请国内各类科研基金、评定职称、报考公务员或研究生等方面都能够享受国家或各地、各单位给予留学回国人员的各种优惠政策或提供的各种便利条件。 学历认证的用途: 1.建立个人档案。个人档案中有学历一项,通过学历认证的佐证,可以进一步确立个人学历档案的真实性。 2.各种招考或招聘的学历证明。比如公务员或事业编或国有单位的招聘,都需要通过学历认证的查询和审核。 3.升学。比如专升本或考研究生等升学、入学,也需要通过学历认证,以确认考生的学历。 4.出国留学。世界上有很多国家与我们建立了互认学历关系,国外教育学校或机构通过学历认证系统,可以方便的确认中国学生的学历。相同,通过学历认证系统,中国也可以方便的确认国外学生的。 5.人才交流或调动。国内有很多城市实行人才交流或调动,其准入的基本条件也是学历层次问题,通过学历认证系统,可以方便的为准入城市提供真实的学历证明。 其它需要的证明。比如落户口、征兵、重要职业岗位,比如医生、律师、船长、机长、职称评定等,都需要相关的认证和审核。 一、快速办理材料: 1、毕业证+成绩单+留学回国人员证明+教育部学历认证(全套留学回国必备证明材料,给父母及亲朋好友一份完美交代); 2、雅思、托福,OFFER,在读证明,学生卡等留学相关材料(申请学校、转学,甚至是申请工签都可以用到)。 注:上述材料,随时都可以安排办理,毕业证成绩单,学校,专业,学位,毕业时间都可以根据客户要求制作购买创意艺术大学书q/微1851304262造假创意艺术大学毕业证【购买成绩单】offer、办理学生卡、制作在读证明/英国假文凭假学历/可查学历认证书University for the Creative Arts购买创意艺术大学书q/微1851304262造假创意艺术大学毕业证【购买成绩单】offer、办理学生卡、制作在读证明/英国假文凭假学历/可查学历认证书University for the Creative Arts购买创意艺术大学书q/微1851304262造假创意艺术大学毕业证【购买成绩单】offer、办理学生卡、制作在读证明/英国假文凭假学历/可查学历认证书University for the Creative Arts购买创意艺术大学书q/微1851304262造假创意艺术大学毕业证【购买成绩单】offer、办理学生卡、制作在读证明/英国假文凭假学历/可查学历认证书University for the Creative Arts7248勤发发
    • -购买创意艺术大学书q/微1851304262造假创意艺术大学毕业证【购买成绩单】offer、办理学生卡、制作在读证明/英国假文凭假学历/可查学历认证书University for the Creative Arts 咨询办理专业海外留学生毕业证,咨询顾问CharlesQ/微:1851304262成绩单,教育部认证、留信认证、大使馆认证、假毕业证,制作假成绩单,仿造假文凭学历,购买假学历文凭,制做毕业证文凭,仿冒文凭毕业证,代办毕业证认证,留服认证,使馆认证,使馆公证,使馆证明,使馆留学回国人员证明,留学生认证,学历认证,文凭认证,学位认证,留学生学历认证,留学生学位认证,使馆认证(留学回国人员证明),学生卡(证),成绩单,在读证明,快速办理录取通知书offer 回国人员证明 一、快速办理材料: 1、毕,业证+成绩单+留学回国人员证明+教育部学历认证(全套留学回国必备证明材料,给父母及亲朋好友一份完美交代); 2、雅思、托福,OFFER,在读证明,学生卡等留学相关材料(申请学校、转学,甚至是申请工签都可以用到)。 注:上述材料,随时都可以安排办理,毕,业证成绩单,学校,专业,学位,毕业时间都可以根据客户要求安排。 二、办理流程: 1、收集客户办理信息; 2、客户付定金下单; 3、公司确认到账转制作点做电子图; 4、电子图做好发给客户确认; 5、电子图确认好转成品部做成品; 6、成品做好拍照或者视频确认再付余款; 7、快递给客户(国内顺丰,国外DHL)。 三、真实网上可查的证明材料 1、教育部学历学位认证,留服真实存档可查,存档。 2、留学回国人员证明(使馆认证),使馆网站真实存档可查。 四、办理流程 1、客户提供相关材料,确定客户办理信息,给出操作方案; 2、补充毕业证成绩单等相关材料; 3、留服注册申请账号,付定金; 4、预约递交时间,公司人员陪同客户本人一起去留服递交材料; 5、等待结果,完成结果书留服直接邮寄给客户 6、客户确认收到结果,付余款。 我们对海外大学及学院的毕业证成绩单所使用的材料,尺寸大小,防伪结构(包括:水印,阴影底纹,钢印LOGO烫金烫银,LOGO烫金烫银复合重叠。 文字图案浮雕,激光镭射,紫外荧光,温感,复印防伪)都有原版本文凭对照。质量得到了广大海外客户群体的认可,同时和海外学校留学中介, 同时能做到与时俱进,及时掌握各大院校的(毕业证,成绩单,资格证,学生卡,结业证,录取通知书,在读证明等相关材料)的版本更新信息, 能够在时间掌握的海外学历文凭的样版,尺寸大小,纸张材质,防伪技术等等,并在时间收集到原版 实物,以求达到客户的需求。 我们的优势: [效率优势]保证在约定的时间内完成任务,视频语音电话查询完成进度。 [品质优势]与学校颁发的相关证件1:1纸质尺寸制定(定期向各大院校毕业生购买版本毕业证成绩单保证您拿到的是学校内部版本毕业证成绩单) [保密优势]我们绝不向任何个人或组织泄露您的隐私,致力于在充分保护你隐私的前提下,为您提供更优质的体验和服务。完成交易,删除客户资料 [价格优势]我们在保证合理定价的同时,坚持较高性价比,通过品质和效率不断优化,为您倾情诠释什么是高性价比。 留信网认证的用途: 主要是提供境外院校资质查询,留学生专业人才证书申报,就业推荐这些服务,海外留学生高等院校学位成绩单认证和在读证明的翻译服务,提供留学生回国就业服务,可以人才存档,失业补贴,可以大额贷款等,.留学生就业指导,福利优惠政策证明学生的留学生身份可以在网上查询到留学时的相关信息、比如专业,入学和毕业时间什么。 回国人员证明的用途: 留学生回国重要的身份和经历证明及购买免税国产小汽车的凭证,而且在创办企业、安排工作、落转户口、子女入学、多生子女上户口、购置住房、申请国内各类科研基金、评定职称、报考公务员或研究生等方面都能够享受国家或各地、各单位给予留学回国人员的各种优惠政策或提供的各种便利条件。 学历认证的用途: 1.建立个人档案。个人档案中有学历一项,通过学历认证的佐证,可以进一步确立个人学历档案的真实性。 2.各种招考或招聘的学历证明。比如公务员或事业编或国有单位的招聘,都需要通过学历认证的查询和审核。 3.升学。比如专升本或考研究生等升学、入学,也需要通过学历认证,以确认考生的学历。 4.出国留学。世界上有很多国家与我们建立了互认学历关系,国外教育学校或机构通过学历认证系统,可以方便的确认中国学生的学历。相同,通过学历认证系统,中国也可以方便的确认国外学生的。 5.人才交流或调动。国内有很多城市实行人才交流或调动,其准入的基本条件也是学历层次问题,通过学历认证系统,可以方便的为准入城市提供真实的学历证明。 其它需要的证明。比如落户口、征兵、重要职业岗位,比如医生、律师、船长、机长、职称评定等,都需要相关的认证和审核。 一、快速办理材料: 1、毕业证+成绩单+留学回国人员证明+教育部学历认证(全套留学回国必备证明材料,给父母及亲朋好友一份完美交代); 2、雅思、托福,OFFER,在读证明,学生卡等留学相关材料(申请学校、转学,甚至是申请工签都可以用到)。 注:上述材料,随时都可以安排办理,毕业证成绩单,学校,专业,学位,毕业时间都可以根据客户要求制作购买创意艺术大学书q/微1851304262造假创意艺术大学毕业证【购买成绩单】offer、办理学生卡、制作在读证明/英国假文凭假学历/可查学历认证书University for the Creative Arts购买创意艺术大学书q/微1851304262造假创意艺术大学毕业证【购买成绩单】offer、办理学生卡、制作在读证明/英国假文凭假学历/可查学历认证书University for the Creative Arts购买创意艺术大学书q/微1851304262造假创意艺术大学毕业证【购买成绩单】offer、办理学生卡、制作在读证明/英国假文凭假学历/可查学历认证书University for the Creative Arts购买创意艺术大学书q/微1851304262造假创意艺术大学毕业证【购买成绩单】offer、办理学生卡、制作在读证明/英国假文凭假学历/可查学历认证书University for the Creative Arts7248勤发发
    • What is it with this idiot? His first remark bashes me for seeming to criticise Trump: His second bashes me for seeming to praise him: As his many accusations at JWs are shot down, he is degenerating into just another source of vitriol. As for cheering for Trump, an elder leading a pioneer meeting—dare I say it was the circuit overseer?—emphasizes the importance of neutrality and the challenges of completely remaining so. “Now we all know that Trump is crazy, but.....” he starts. Two sisters look at each other, and the one says to the other: “I know that my father is a good man, and he voted for Trump.” That CO is very atypical. I’ve never heard another one mention the president, or any president, either way. Doubtless he watches the network news at the end of the day, where they do nothing but bash the president. Making any country great again doesn’t necessarily do it for those accustomed to treating equally those of any “nation, tribe, people, and tongue.” (Revelation 7:9) As for the photoshopped Trump beating up on the CNN bobble head, the average Witness who sees that thinks of how he tries not to do like that with the householder. He observes that Trump is bombastic whereas he tries to be polite. Often his politics go no further than that.
    • What does that even mean?
    • I voted your remark "sad" because it truly is. It is a meaningless non-sequitur with no relevance ... which you think is profound.
    • Maybe you jw's will get lucky and your hero Hitler will start ruling again.
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