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    • By Jack Ryan
      If the co-founder of reddit is a JW, is he obligated upon pain of excommunication to share with the Watchtower any and all information they ask for about his company?
       
       
    • By Jack Ryan
      Serena Williams praised her daughter as her “greatest accomplishment” as she rang in her second birthday with a touching tribute on social media. i She wrote alongside a picture taken on the day of Olympia’s birth: “The last 2 years have been my greatest accomplishment (sic)”

      Williams and Alexis Ohanian are Jehova’s Witnesses and so they don’t celebrate birthdays, but the Reddit co-founder still took to Instagram to ring in Olympia’s second “cake day”.
      He wrote: “How has it already been two years? Happy cake day @olympiaohanian. Thank you for being the greatest thing we’ve ever done. (sic)”
      Last year, the 37-year-old sports star honored Olympia’s birthday with a video that was taken while she was still pregnant, on the day she went to the hospital, where she was given an emergency C-section after her heart rate dropped dangerously low during her contractions.
      Just days previous, she had insisted she wouldn’t be celebrating Olympia’s first birthday for religious reasons.
      She had said: “Olympia doesn’t celebrate birthdays. We’re Jehovah’s Witnesses, so we don’t do that.”
      The brunette beauty, who on Sunday, Sept. 1, Williams defeated Petra Martic at the 2019 U.S. Open to advance to the quarter-finals on Monday, has been a Jehovah Witness since her mother Oracene converted to the religion in the ’80s but she’s only just got more “into it.”
      She said last year: “Being a Jehovah’s Witness is important to me, but I’ve never really practiced it and have been wanting to get into it.
      “Alexis didn’t grow up going to any church, but he’s really receptive and even takes the lead. He puts my needs first.”
      Williams regularly attends church and is convinced she wouldn’t have to success she does today in her sporting career if she didn’t believe in God.
      She explained: “I am Jehovah’s Witness. If you don’t believe in God — I think if you don’t believe in God, it’s going to be tough to live life because pretty much that’s the basis of life, it comes from God.
      “And so being a Jehovah’s Witness, obviously we believe in God and the bible. And without Him, I wouldn’t be here right now. I really thank him for everything.”
      https://rollingout.com/2019/09/02/serena-williams-posts-touching-tribute-to-mark-daughters-2nd-birthday/
       

    • By The Librarian
      español / Italiano
      Part of a series on: Jehovah's Witnesses >
      Baptized JW's
      Serena Williams- tennis player ; 8 Grand Slam champion. Her "baptized" status is disputed since she has never been disfellowshipped for having a baby out of wedlock with Drake or her publicly nude photographs. Let's just say she is now the most famous celebrity who CLAIMS to be one.
      Venus Williams - tennis player ; 5 time Grand Slam champion
      Damon Wayans - TV and Film Comedy Star. Part of "The Wayans Brothers" TV show back in the 1990's. - Their father was a JW (someone mentioned even Anointed)
      Michael Jackson
      Michael Jackson's Children and Mother Katherine Jackson
      Rebbie Jackson - Singer, daughter of Katherine Jackson


      Prince Rogers Nelson

      Marques Houston - Singer and former member of the kid group "Immature" (and his manager)
      Luke Evans - Actor

      Coco Rocha- International Fashion Model
      Terrence Howard - actor; Ray, Hustle & Flow, etc. Children and brother are JWs. Studied when he was 17 years old.
      Bria Valente - Prince's Ex-GF back in 2007 - She has since remarried to another brother

      George Benson - Musician / singer (see also: George Benson and Friends - Sing Praises to Jehovah)

      **El General** - Panamanian singer

      Bobby Martin - Grammy winning producer. 
      Mateo - African Musician 
      Aoife Ní Thuairisg - Irish Television Presenter
      Tulsi Giri - Prime Minister of Nepal
      Bill Underwood - Reporter for the Phoenix Times Examiner
      Alexander P. Stewart - US Civil War Confederate General
      Allison Lozz - Mexican Actress (former). recently left novelas (soap operas) to be a more active in the ministry, Spanish speaking members would know them.
      Maurizio Bianchi - Musician
      Ivana Brkic - Croatian Musician
      Angelo Palego - Leader of team searching for Noah's Ark
      Firpo Carr - Historian, author of Germany's Black Holocaust: 1890-1945; Wicked Words: Poisoned Minds - Racism in the Dictionary; founder: Scholar Technological Institute of Research, Inc. (STIR)
      Henry Carr - Olympian and NFL player (deceased)
      Herman Pizzanelli - Leading Uruguayan concert guitarist in the 1960s (convert to JWs)
      Willie Wise - NBA professional basketball player for Seattle Super Sonics and Denver Nuggets
      Dave Meyers - Professional basketball player (Los Angeles Lakers in 1970s)
      Mark McCumber - Professional golfer
      Dave Pear - NFL professional football player for Colts, Buccaneers, and Raiders (convert)
      Kid Gavilan - welterweight champion boxer; elected to boxing Hall of Fame in 1990 (convert to JWs)
      Jorge Påez "El Maromero" - Boxing World Champion 
      Pele Reid - Boxing Champion
      Shont'e Peoples - professional football player (Saskatchewan Roughriders); convert to JWs
      La Lupe - Cuban salsa singer (convert)
      Janis Gill - ex wife of country music superstar, Vince Gill, is one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Vince Gill is NOT a Witness. He is strongly and violently opposed.
      Fedor Chistyakov - Russian Singer
      Richard Cameron - Dutch Musician
      Valerie Campbell - Mother of Naomi Campbell
      Tom Edur - Former NHL ice hockey player
      Mrs.Ida Eisenhower - (Mother of President Dwight D Eisenhower)
      Leopold Engleitner - Buchenwald concentration camp survivor and centenarian
      Mickey Spillane - Novelist
      Larry Graham - Sly & the Family Stone

      Danny Granger - Indiana Pacers small forward; Professional Basketball Player
      Teresa Graves - Reputedly the first black woman to play the lead in a police movie, also a singer

      Gary Gygax - Co-creator of Dungeons & Dragons 

      Scott Johnson - Actor
      Phillip Landry - Musican
      Maher Shalal Hash Baz - Japanese musician, name comes from the Book of Isaiah
      Margaret Keane - "Big Eyes" artist who said converting "changed her life."
      Peter Knowles - Famous soccer player in England who quit his football career in 1970 aged 24 to join the Jehovah's Witnesses
      Brian Locking - Bass guitarist with The Shadows for eighteen months, but left to Jehovah's Witnesses activities.
      Hank Marvin - Lead guitarist for The Shadows

      Bohumil Müller - Czech survivor of the Mauthausen-Gusen concentration camp and underground religious leader under Communism.
      Viv Nicholson - famous London lottery winner in 1961. She then became a devout JW. The musical Spend, Spend, Spend was based on her story.
      Evelyn Ntoko (first wife of Nelson Mandela)
      Lieby Piliso - Nelson Mandela's younger sister
      Ken Richmond - The man who banged the gong in the Rank Organisation film logo from 1955 onward.
      **Gevorg Petrosyanm** -The Georgian-Armenian “Caruso,” who drives a taxi, but dreams of the stage
      Miu Sakamoto - Japanese Singer, a Daughter of Ryuichi Sakamoto andAkiko Yano
      Damo Suzuki (Converted in the 1970s, current membership status uncertain)
      Bobby Tambling - English footballer
      Phil Terry - member of the 60's R&B group The Intruders.
      David Thomas - Avant-garde rocker, "Jehovah's Kingdom come"[2][3]
      Jean Terrell - Replaced Diana Ross in the Supremes in 1970.
      Akira Toriyama - Japanese Mangaka(Cartoonist), Author of Dragon Ball(Manga)
      Yoshito Usui - Japanese Mangaka, Author of Crayon Shin-chan
      Reena Virk - Canadian child murder victim
      Lark Voorhies - actress, Saved By The Bell
      Lou Whitaker - Former MLB baseball player for the Detroit Tigers.
      Chet Lemon - played with the Detroit Tigers along with Lou Whitaker

      Akiko Yano - Japanese Singer, Former wife of Ryuichi Sakamoto
      Solveig Romero - Mexico and Switzerland, Actress and wife of Martin Campbell, the director of James Bond Casino Royale
      Chuck Winfield - Former Trumpet player for Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
      Rosalia Valdez - Former actress who left fame in Mexico to become a witness, daughter of famous Tin Tan Valdez.
      Carmina Villarroel - Filipino actress
      Patience Dlaminh - a weather forecast reporter in South Africa / Regional 'celebrity'
      Red Shea - Guitarist for Gordon Lightfoot (passed away in 2008)
      Tom Reynolds - He was one of the singers in the late 60's early 70's band 'Hamilton, Joe,Frank, & Reynolds.
      Toun Oni - Nigerian actress (featured in the TV drama 'fuji house of commotion') She was an active witness before her death a few months ago. In fact, she died of heart problems during the Lekki assembly hall construction work.
      Paul i.k Dairo (used to be one of Nigeria's top musicians); Last i heard of him, he is one of Jehovah witnesses.
      Wolf-Ekkehard Lonnig - a scientist from the Max Planck Institute for Plant Breeding Research in Germany
      Hayden Covington - leading attorney for the Jehovah's Witnesses, Watchtower Society; won multiple U.S. Supreme Court cases; represented Muhammad Ali in court [not sure if he left eventually or not?]
      Chappel Fisher - Country Music DJ in Florida, USA
      Michael Worilds - NFL Player
      Tony Garcia - Artist, DJ, Producer, Re-mixer, Arranger, Composer,Writer of Dance Music EDM, Funk Melody Freestyle Music Owner of High Power Records


      Honorable B. Dwight Goains - US Federal Judge
      Micaiah and Tabitha Bethune - Owners of the Fashion Industry "The Wild Life Reserve" out of New Orleans
      Alex Rance - Soccer Star

      Pavel Pavlov & Aleksandr Kryukov - Ukrainian YouTube Stars
      Minh Hung Godenzi - Miss Hong Kong 1984
      Danny Collision - NBA Player currently in California
      Clarion Chukwurah - Nollywood Actress
      Irina Bohr - Russian singer
      Alisson Euler de Freitas Castro - Brazilian Footballer
      Carlos Gonzaga - Brazilian Singer
      Andriy Mykolayovych Nesmachniy (Ukrainian: Андрій Миколайович Несмачний)
      PC-One - Star of Slam in Haiti
      Jacy Brean - Author 
      Mina Godenzi - Actress, Model and Miss Hong Kong
      Phillip Ingram - Musician
      Ramón Gómez Valdés de Castillo aka "Don Ramón" - Famous Mexican Actor
      Kenya Moore - not sure as to her current status though. 
      Anneliese Zelina - Model
      Raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses
      Dwight D. Eisenhower - WWII General and Former President of the USA
      Childish Gambino Rapper, TV actor
      Michael Sam - First Gay NFL football player

      Nathan Day, frontman of grunge / Britpop group Darlia - "I grew up with a family whose parents were Jehovah’s Witnesses, so I felt very isolated."
      Kia Kahlo- Witness to rap
      Jacqueline Woodson
      Dwight David Eisenhower who became the 34th President of the United States (1953–1961)
      Meg Myers - Musician / Singer
      Nathan Haines - Saxophonist
      Shushila Takao - Actress in New Zealand show "Filthy Rich"

      Kim Holland - Dutch Porn Actress

      Little Scream - Montreal musician
      Kelsey Lu - Fashion model
      Rebekah Vardy - I'm a Celeb star
      Alex Avery - Comedian in Portland, OR
      List of former Jehovah's Witnesses
      Michelle Rodriguez - actress, raised by mother
      Donald Glover - (aka Childish Gambino)
      Gregg Alexander - The New Radicals' lead singer; raised by mother
      Carol M. Swain - political scientist; professor at Vanderbilt University; author of Black Faces, Black Interests and The New White Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to Integration; left the Witnesses at the age of 20, in 1975 (Ms. Swain was born in 1954 into an extremely poor household in rural Virginia, not far from Roanoke. She grew up with 11 brothers and sisters, dropped out of school in the ninth grade and married at age 16 -- in part, she says, because she saw no need to plan for a lengthy future. She was a Jehovah's Witness, and she believed that Armageddon would begin in 1975)
      Peter Andre - Singer raised in Australia, presently living in London with wife pin up model *Jordan
      Naomi Campbell- Supermodel; Raised by mother
      Geri Halliwell - Singer (Spice Girls); Raised as a Jehovah's Witness[verification needed]
      Barbara Grizzuti Harrison - American writer of Visions of Glory: A History and a Memory of Jehovah's Witnesses(converted to Catholicism)
      Nancy Garrido - the now infamous kidnapper of Jaycee Dugard
      Latoya Jackson
      Michael Jackson - Michael became a Jehovah's Witness but disassociated himself shortly after his hit album, Thriller
      Olin R. Moyle - Former Watchtower Chief Attorney
      Dave Mustaine - Guitarist (ex-Metallica; Megadeth; ex- MD .45)
      Miki Nakatani - JapaneseActress, Raised as a Jehovah's Witness
      Gloria Naylor - novelist, author of The Women of Brewster Place (1982, American Book Award)
      Patti Smith - Singer and poet
      Leo Volpe
      Jill Scott-Singer; raised as one of Jehovah's Witness
      Hinano Yoshikawa - JapaneseFashion model and actress, Raised as a Jehovah's Witness
      K-os - Canadian R&B artist ; Raised Jehovah's Witness
      Rene Montes de Oca Martija - dissident human-rights activist in Cuba (son of JW)
      Selena Quintanilla Perez - __Tejano__ singer ; raised Jehovah's Witnesses
      Sherri Shepherd from The View. Her father is an elder in his congregation.
      Jill Scott - a singer,poet & actress from USA, she played in the movie-'why did i get married'
      Maureen Mwanawasa, wife of late Zambian president, though she disassociated herself, but she still attends meetings. the late president was also studying with JWs, his mother was a JW. his children also attend meetings, i think one is a publisher.
      Thandiwe Banda our current Zambian first lady who was a JW until recently when she disassociated herself. Reportedly a former pioneer.
      Mamontha Modise was a JW. travels all over the world to report current news 2 South Africans.
      Ja Rule - Rapper - raised a jehovahs witness and is no longer one, in an interview he said his mother was disfellowshipped
      Jaywon; currently a musician, was raised a witness, later decided to follow a way of life thats suits him.
      Rick Haynes - Musician
      Travis Scott - NFL football player for Rams (raised JW)
      Scott Cheshire - Gotham City Writers
      Eddie Griffin - Comedian
      Leaders of the music band Shakespeare's Unit
       
      Rumors of:
      Eddie Murphy - Not verified yet
      Josh Groban - We don't know what to think yet.. ? Some have suspicions....
      Omarion - I believe he is only "studying"
      Jackie Chan - (I still don't believe the photo)
       
      Please Read
      Some people have wondered if we have listed people who simply studied briefly with Jehovah's Witnesses. As far as we know, this is not the case. Anybody can sit down and meet with Jehovah's Witnesses to study their beliefs. In no way would we consider that grounds for identifying somebody as a Jehovah's Witness. All of the people listed on our page have actually been considered Jehovah's Witnesses or considered themselves adherents of the faith, either by way of having been raised in the faith or because they were an active convert to the faith.
      Of course no insult is meant to Jehovah's Witnesses or anybody else by hosting this list. Personally, reading the biographies and faith statements of many famous Jehovah's Witnesses has helped tear down some stereotypes for me. It simply isn't true, for example, that this faith necessarily stifles creativity or achievement. Clearly, many adherents to the faith (including people raised in it as well as converts who chose to become Witnesses as adults) have been very famous creative people or have been very successful, as measured by worldly standards.
      Regardless of the obvious tensions between the pressures of worldly fame, versus remaining active in a religious faith which expects all of its members to live according to the highest Biblical standards of ethics and morality, there are indeed many "famous" adherents who have strived to remain faithful. Even for those who have failed to balance fame and success with the demands of their faith, the teachings and values they were raised with or embraced at some point as an adult remain forever an influence in their lives. Were this not true, these individuals would not be listed here at all. This list is based on what famous people themselves have said to interviewers and to the public. We have no access to actual Jehovah's Witness membership or attendance records. If a celebrity or famous person doesn't talk publicly about their experiences as a Jehovah's Witness, we would have no way of knowing about this part of their lives.
      The actions of a single individual should never be used to judge an entire group of people, and I believe most people realize this. Anybody who does try to condemn Jehovah's Witnesses by the behavior of their "worst" lapsed members or former members will stand instantly condemned themselves. This is because the cumulative behavior of the famous (and infamous) members of the group the accuser belongs to is far worse than anything they will be able to dig up relating to people who have been Jehovah's Witnesses. This is true of essentially any sufficiently large religious group. It is true also of anti-religious people, who are nearly always wise enough to avoid condemning entire groups by the actions of individuals, lest they be asked to answer for the hundreds of millions of murders perpetrated by Lenin, Pol Pot, Stalin, Adolph Hitler, Mao, Mussolini, Nicolae Ceausescu, Joseph Goebbels, Maximillien Robespierre, etc.
       
    • Guest Indiana
      By Guest Indiana
      Serena Williams’s daughter Alexis Olympia turns 1 this week – but we shouldn’t expect any extravagant party pictures on the ‘gram.
      The tennis legend has confirmed that she will not be celebrating her baby girl’s first birthday, due to her beliefs as a Jehovah’s Witness.
      Serena was speaking at a press conference at the when she was asked whether she has thought about she’d be celebrating Olympia’s first birthday.
      Responding to a reporter asking: ‘Is there a birthday party planned?’, the 36-year-old said: ‘Olympia doesn’t celebrate birthdays. We’re Jehovah’s Witnesses, so we don’t do that.’
      It is believed Serena’s husband, Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian, is now practicing with his wife, despite not growing up in a religious household.
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      Speaking to Vogue last year, Serena said: ‘Being a Jehovah’s Witness is important to me, but I’ve never really practiced it and have been wanting to get into it.
      ‘Alexis didn’t grow up going to any church, but he’s really receptive and even takes the lead. He puts my needs first.’
      Jehovah’s Witnesses believe God is the Creator and Supreme Being, and reject the Trinity doctrine.
      They do not celebrate religious holidays like Christmas and Easter, and do not observe birthdays or national holidays, feeling that many of these customs have pagan origins and do not celebrate God.
      https://osburnoracle.com/serena-williams-confirms-she-will-not-celebrate-daughters-first-birthday-due-to-jehovahs-witness-beliefs/25494/
    • By The Librarian
      Jehovah's Witnesses > Notable JW's
      See also: Celebrities who are/were JW's
      Alive:
      Brothers:
      Mark Sanderson
      William Malenfant
      Don Adams
      Karl A. Adams
      Joel Adams
      Michael Aronowitz
      Ted Armstrong
      Malcolm Allen
      David Ianelli
      Norman Mosure "Stormin' Norman" - District Overseer
      George Couch (Bethelite 1957-2007)
      Geoffrey Jackson (Governing Body Member)
      Colin Quackenbush - Talk / Talk (still alive?)
      Angelo Manera - District Overseer - Talk
      Judah Schroeder
      Gary Breaux oversees Richard Ashe
       
      Sisters:
      Simone Arnold Liebster

       
      Deceased:
      Pastor Charles Taze Russell (spouse) (foster daughter)
      Joseph L. Russell
      Alexander H MacMillan
      George Storrs (Influenced Pastor Russell)
      Henry Grew (Influenced Pastor Russell)
      George Stetson (Influenced Pastor Russell)
      Judge Rutherford / Joseph Franklin Rutherford
      Nathan Knorr
      Nelson H. Barbour (Influenced Pastor Russell Pre-Watch Tower)
      Frederick William Franz
      Raymond Franz
      Theodore Jaracz
      Daniel Sydlik
      Carey Barber
      Karl A Adams
      Milton G. Henschel
      Liebster, Max
      John E. Barr
      Leopold Engleitner
      William 'Bible' Brown
      W. Glen How
      Grant Suiter
      Hayden C. Covington
      Olin R. Moyle
      Ulysses Glass - Gilead Instructor
      Bob Mackey
      Benjamin Martin
      J.R. Brown
      Albert Schroeder
      Charles Sinutko
      Sisters:
      Nancy Yuen
      Lilian Gobitas Klose
      Dorothy Covington, Wife of Civil Liberties Attorney Hayden Covington, Dies at 92
      Jeanette (Jenny) Jackson

      See also:
      Bethel Personnel Assignments (2000)
       
      Note - Over the past 15 years keeping information available, organized and online has proven very difficult. If you see a name above then there was once an entire article, photos and more about the person yet they have been lost through moves and technology changes. If you have lots of details about one of them please make a topic and start posting about them. I will link them up at a later date.
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      Serena también habló sobre su fe: "Soy testigo de Jehová. Si no crees en Dios, creo que si no crees en Dios, va a ser difícil vivir la vida porque esa es la base de la vida, proviene de Dios.
      Y así, siendo testigos de Jehová, obviamente creemos en Dios y en la Biblia. Y sin Él, no estaría aquí ahora. Realmente le agradezco por todo. Realmente he sido bendecida. La gente está enferma, acaba de nacer con trastornos, y he tenido la suerte de nacer, ya sabes, bastante saludable.
      https://es.tennisworldusa.org/tenis/news/Serena_Williams/19642/serena-williams-roger-federer-y-yo-simplemente-amamos-el-deporte/

    • By admin
      Jehovah's Witnesses > List of Celebrity JW's > Coco Rocha (older posts in jw-archive.org)
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      Previous posts of Coco Rocha
       
    • By Jack Ryan
      So she won’t celebrate her daughters birthday, but will bang drake and then conceive her baby out of wedlock?? Ok Serena.

       
    • By Jack Ryan
      Posted by Michael David Smith on September 1, 2018, 7:31 AM EDT AP Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid were cheered by the crowd at the U.S. Open on Friday night, and afterwards they were applauded by the winner of the nightÂ’s match, Serena Williams.
      Williams, who defeated her older sister Venus Williams, said after the match that she admires the stance Kaepernick and Reid have taken on racial justice.
      “I think every athlete, every human, and definitely every African American should be completely grateful and honored how Colin and Eric are doing so much more for the greater good, so to say,” Williams said. “They really use their platform in ways that is really unfathomable. I feel like they obviously have great respect from a lot of their peers, especially other athletes, people that really are looking for social change.”
      Kaepernick was the first NFL player to kneel during the national anthem, and Reid was the first teammate to join him. Neither player has been able to find another NFL team since leaving the 49ers, and both are bringing a collusion case against the NFL.
      Williams has faced her own criticism over the national anthem, from a different direction: She does stand for the anthem despite her JehovahÂ’s Witness faith. SheÂ’s been criticized by other JehovahÂ’s Witnesses, who say she is violating their religionÂ’s teachings by standing for the anthem. JehovahÂ’s Witnesses believe that standing for patriotic rituals is a form of idolatry, and they have sued for the right not to stand for the anthem.
      https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/01/serena-williams-everyone-should-be-grateful-to-colin-kaepernick-eric-reid/
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      Serena Williams says her mother encouraged her with Scripture when the tennis star suffered from physical and emotional struggles following her pregnancy.
      In an interview with Vogue magazine that appeared online Wednesday, the 36-year-old tennis champion revealed that she had to undergo multiple surgeries after her C-section last September. After giving birth to Alexis Olympia, who she shares with her husband, Alexis Ohanian, the co-founder of Reddit, Williams suffered from blood clots in her lungs and abdomen.
      Williams has had a history of dealing with blood clots, but stopped taking her blood thinning medication to heal from her C-section wounds. Soon after giving birth she discovered blood clots in her lungs which required a procedure.
      Shortly after, doctors found blood clots in her abdomen that also required surgery. As if the health complications were not enough to deal with, Williams admitted to struggling with the emotional toll of new motherhood when she returned home to her new baby and soon-to-be husband who she married last November.
      "Sometimes I get really down and feel like, man, I can't do this. It's that same negative attitude I have on the court sometimes," she told Vogue in a transparent interview. "I guess that's just who I am. No one talks about the low moments—the pressure you feel, the incredible letdown every time you hear the baby cry."
      Williams went on to detail the rollercoaster of emotions that she has experienced as a mother.
      "I've broken down I don't know how many times," she said. "Or I'll get angry about the crying, then sad about being angry, and then guilty, like, Why do I feel so sad when I have a beautiful baby? The emotions are insane."
      However, Williams' tennis coach mother, Oracene Price, comforted her daughter with the Bible.
      "Obedience brings protection; that's what my mom told me. That's straight from the Bible, and she wrote it down on paper and gave it to me," she said. "I was always obedient: Whatever my parents told me to do, I did. There was no discussion."
      Williams was raised as a Jehovah's Witness, which her mother converted to in the early 80s. In a previous interview with ASAP sports, Williams spoke about the importance of keeping God first in her life.
      "I am Jehovah's Witness. If you don't believe in God — I think if you don't believe in God, it's going to be tough to live life because pretty much that's the basis of life, it comes from God. And so being a Jehovah's Witness, obviously we believe in God and the Bible. And without Him, I wouldn't be here right now. I really thank Him for everything."
      Jehovah's Witnesses recognize the Bible as "God's inspired message," according to their website, but they do not believe Jesus is Almighty God and they also reject the Trinity.
      https://www.christianpost.com/news/serena-williams-mom-encouraged-her-with-scripture-after-emotional-struggles-with-motherhood-213273/
    • By Bible Speaks
      'We had a lot of complications': Serena Williams shares first photos of baby girl Alexis Olympia Ohanian Jr. as tennis star reveals they spent six days in hospital 
      The tennis star appeared to be teasing the upcoming video on Tuesday night when she posted a photo of herself and her fiance, writing: '... but are you ready?'
      Williams and Ohanian announced their engagement just a few weeks before the big pregnancy news. 
      He did this by whisking her off to Rome, where the two had met after a chance encounter at their hotel two years prior. 
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4880394/Serena-Williams-shares-photos-baby-girl-Alexis.html
       

    • By Srecko Sostar
      Personally, I believe that what Serena stands for in her social projects is truly worthwhile. One of the video I've put out shows that she is socially active in many areas of American community life.
      She stands for high school education and university higher education. Includes self in health programs. In charitable actions. She is UNICEF ambassador. Have Philanthropic projects. Helping on Community violence. She is Partnership with Equal Justice Initiative. One have said: "She's talking when others are being quite." She started Annual charity run. She is Ambassador for the Allstate Foundation, a purple plus project for domestic abuse victims.
      Basically, first please take look at the links for Serena, and then read the controversial WT articles that actually say how Serena is "meddling in the things of this world". 2. Tim 2: 4 - 4 "No one serving as a soldier gets entangled in civil affairs but tries to please his commanding officer."
      Not want talking about her motives, because we must look first at person in positive way without prejudice. So, Serena is fine role model in helping people, all people, not only to people of "her flock". :))
      It is to long with copy/paste WT articles, but some people wants to see black on white.
      1) „What is the theme of the message of Jehovah’s Witnesses? When Jesus gave his preaching commission, he did not instruct his followers to preach social or political reforms, union of Church and State, or any other secular ideology. Instead, he foretold: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations.” (Matthew 24:14) Thus, in obedience to Jesus’ instructions, true Christians today continue to speak to their neighbors about God’s Kingdom—the only government capable of bringing an end to Satan’s wicked system and ushering in a righteous new world.“  - source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2012324#h=10
      TRUE Christians today do not participate in politics. Why not? Because they follow Jesus’ example. He said about himself: “I am no part of the world.” Regarding his followers, he stated: “You are no part of the world.” (John 15:19; 17:14) Consider some reasons why Christians should not become involved in politics.
      2) 1. Human ability is limited. The Bible states that humans have neither the ability nor the right to govern themselves. “It does not belong to man who is walking,” wrote the prophet Jeremiah, “even to direct his step.”—Jeremiah 10:23.
      Just as humans were not created to fly successfully on their own strength, so they were not created to rule successfully by themselves. Speaking about the limits of government, historian David Fromkin noted: “Governments are composed of human beings; therefore they are fallible and their prospects are uncertain. They exercise a certain power, but only a limited one.” (The Question of Government) No wonder the Bible warns us not to put our trust in man!—Psalm 146:3. source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2012323#h=1
      3) We do not lobby, vote in political elections, run for government office, or try to change governments. …Otherwise, how could we have a clean conscience when we preach the good news that only God’s Kingdom can solve mankind’s problems?  source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2016288#h=36
      4) Reformers are found in almost every society, where they encourage change in an orderly, constitutional manner. Generally, they are not anarchists or revolutionaries, since most reformers stay within the law and refrain from violence. A few reformers occupy influential positions in society and take the initiative in introducing change. Others lobby and prod those in power into taking some action.
      Reformers try to get society to rethink its approach on issues. They do not just protest; they have ideas about how to improve things. To draw attention to their concerns, reformers may petition the public, demonstrate in the streets, or seek publicity in the media. Among the worst things that can happen to a reformer is for society to ignore him…..There can be no doubt that Jesus had the ability to bring about reform. As a perfect man, he could have blazed a trail with sweeping changes and innovations. Yet, Christ did not initiate a campaign to rid the world of corrupt officials or dishonest businessmen. He did not lead street protests against injustice, although he himself was to become the innocent victim of an outrageous miscarriage of justice….What Christ had in mind was, not a simple reform, but a complete change in the way mankind’s affairs are governed. This change will be put into effect by the heavenly Kingdom introduced by the Creator of mankind, Jehovah God, and administered by Jesus Christ as King. source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102004202#h=28
       
      5) Special appendix on domestic violence with brand new "instructions"
      17 Admittedly, there have been instances where an “unbelieving husband” seems to prove that he is not “agreeable to staying with her.” He might be extremely physically abusive, even to the point that she feels that her health or life is in danger. He might refuse to support her and the family or severely endanger her spirituality. In such cases, some Christians have personally decided that, despite what he might say, the mate is not “agreeable to staying” together and that a separation is necessary. But other Christians in comparably difficult situations have not; they have endured and tried to work at improving matters. Why?
      18 In such a separation, the two are still marriage mates. If they lived apart, each one would face challenges, as mentioned earlier. The apostle Paul gave another reason for staying united. He wrote: “The unbelieving husband is sanctified in relation to his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified in relation to the brother; otherwise, your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.” (1 Cor. 7:14) Many loyal Christians have remained with an unbelieving mate under very trying circumstances. They can testify that doing so was worthwhile in a special sense when their mate became a true worshipper.—Read 1 Corinthians 7:16; 1 Pet. 3:1, 2. source: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-december-2018/honor-what-god-has-yoked-together/
      What would Serena say about this? Here are 2 links.
       
       
      https://www.allstatenewsroom.com/news/allstate-foundation-purple-purse-and-serena-williams-launch-national-street-art-campaign-to-make-domestic-violence-and-financial-abuse-visible/
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      /EINPresswire.com/ Bobby Martin is the Grammy Award winning R&B producer that dominated the airwaves for nearly three decades with his signature sound. He is a legend in the music industry, and he is well known around the world. MartinÂ’s fellow JehovahÂ’s Witness brothers and sisters often refer to him as Brother Martin. In addition to being a Grammy Winner, he is famous and respected as The Granddaddy of R&B music. His signature sound was called R&B, and in the 1970Â’s it was known as The Sound of Philadelphia. 

      As far as Bobby Martin is concerned, younger R&B artists often sample and produce remakes of his songs. A good example of this is the song “Da Butta”. WILL SMITH and LIL’ KIM collaborated with Bobby Martin by using one of his productions. The music track and beat were taken from Bobby Martin’s studio recording of (Every Time I Turn Around) “Back in Love Again”, by L.T.D. GEORGE BENSON also recorded a cover of an L.T.D. song, called “Love Ballad”.

      Most of us have heard SEAL, and SIMPLY RED sing “If You Don’t Know Me By Now”, which was originally arranged in the studio with Bobby Martin. KANYE WEST sampled “Show You The Way To Go”, using Bobby Martin’s recording of THE JACKSONS. 

      MartinÂ’s success in the music industry has broken the stereotype that Jehovah Witnesses do not participate in any of the arts. In fact, some of the most prolific icons in entertainment just happen to be JehovahÂ’s Witnesses, like PRINCE, KATHERINE JACKSON (Michael JacksonÂ’s Mother), SERENA and VENUS WILLIAMS, GEORGE BENSON, LARRY GRAHAM (DrakeÂ’s Uncle), RONNIE LAWS just to name a few.

      Jehovah’s Witnesses are happy and joyful people that want to live a clean life. Yet they enjoy music, as long as it is clean music. Jehovah’s Witnesses dance at their gatherings, and they all sing songs to Jehovah at all of their meetings. One of Bobby Martin’s fans, Camille Szalma, had the opportunity to take a photo with Bobby and the Latin Music legend “TITO PUENTE”, at a celebrity mixer. Surprisingly, Camille Szalma just happened to be a faithful Jehovah’s Witness herself, also showing that Jehovah’s Witnesses represent some of the music industry’s fan base. Jehovah’s Witnesses purchase music and they enjoy live performances. 
      Martin has even collaborated with many of his Christian brothers that are known in the entertainment world, such as THE JACKSONS, GEORGE BENSON, LARRY GRAHAM, JEAN TERRELL, BENNY GOLSON, HUBERT LAWS, and many others. 
      Bobby Martin is best known for arranging and producing the music of the top icons in the music industry including MICHAEL JACKSON, THE JACKSONS, QUINCY JONES, WILL SMITH, CLIVE DAVIS, WHITNEY HOUSTON, PATTI LABELLE, DUSTY SPRINGFIELD, LOU RAWLS, HERB ALPERT, THE BEE GEES, GAMBLE & HUFF, and so forth. 
      Martin worked heavily in producing, and arranging music with GAMBLE & HUFF (Kenneth Gamble & Leon Huff). Most of the classic Philadelphia R&B hit songs were arranged or produced by Bobby Martin, songs like “Let’s Just Kiss And Say Goodbye”. 

      Bobby Martin, Kenneth Gamble, and Leon Huff were a close family of music executives. Martin learned about Jehovah’s Witnesses from Kenneth Gamble’s mother (Ruby N. Gamble), who was a Jehovah’s Witness. Martin was later baptized with Jehovah’s Witnesses in the year 1976 in Woodland Hills, at an assembly hall where The Jackson’s would attend their assemblies. 

      Martin has produced artists at Capitol Records, Columbia Records with Clive Davis, A&M Records with Quincy Jones, and Philadelphia International Records with producers Gamble and Huff, to name a few. Martin has produced and arranged multiple hits and has accumulated thousands of Gold & Platinum record awards. Bobby Martin is a Grammy winner as well. He won a very significant Grammy Award for the Soul Train theme song, named TSOP (The Sound of Philadelphia). 

      Martin’s classic productions are heard on radio stations around the world, and he is presently working in the recording studio on new songs to soon be released in 2013. 

      For more information, search online for Grammy Winner Bobby Martin, Producer Bobby Martin, Arranger Bobby Martin, and Bobby Martin Productions!Source
      Bobby Martin
       
    • By Queen Esther
      Just  now,  Serena  Williams  was  playing  the  Finale  in  Wimbledon  vs  our  No. 1  the  German  Tennis - player  Angelique  Kerber...
      The  winner  is...  our  German  Angelique  Kerber  with  6 : 3  &  6 : 3  WOW !!   to  1. time !
      Congrats,  Angelique
    • By Kurt
      Chet Lemon is a devout Jehovah's Witnesses who refused to stand for the national anthem.
      Lemon suffers from Polycythemia vera, a rare blood disorder, but in accordince with his faith refuses to have blood transfusions to treat the disease

      Chester Earl Lemon (born February 12, 1955) is a former Major League Baseball outfielder. A three-time All-Star, he was a member of the World Series champion 1984 Detroit Tigers.
       Manzullo, Brian (29 August 2016). "Remember: Ex-Tigers Whitaker, Lemon didn't stand for anthem, either"
      Robbins, Josh (16 January 2002). "Chet Lemon Returns To Eustis Practice"
      source
    • By Kurt
      Evelyn Ntoko Mase Rakeepile
      BIRTH 18 May 1922 South Africa
      DEATH 30 Apr 2004 
      First wife of former South African president Nelson Mandela. They had 4 children together; Madiba Thembekile Mandela, Makaziwe Mandela, Makgatho Lewanika Mandela and Pumla Makaziwe Mandela-Amuah. Evelyn later divorced Nelson Mandela in 1955 and married Simon Rakeepile, a retired businessman.

      Simon Moloka Rakeepile
      BIRTH 4 Mar 1930 South Africa
      DEATH 19 Apr 2012 
      Married to Evelyn Ntoko (Mase), first wife of former South African president Nelson Mandela. Simon was a retired businessman and lived a fruitful life of spiritual dedication.

      Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela 
      BIRTH 18 Jul 1918  South Africa
      DEATH 5 Dec 2013 
      Nelson Mandela was a South African anti-apartheid revolutionary, politician and philanthropist who served as President of South Africa from 1994 to 1999. He was the first black South African to hold the office, and the first elected in a fully representative election. His government focused on dismantling the legacy of apartheid through tackling institutionalised racism, poverty and inequality, and fostering racial reconciliation. Politically an African nationalist and democratic socialist, he served as President of the African National Congress (ANC) from 1991 to 1997. Internationally, Mandela was Secretary General of the Non-Aligned Movement from 1998 to 1999.

      Madiba Thembekile “Thembi” Mandela
      BIRTH 23 Feb 1945 South Africa
      DEATH 13 Jul 1969 South Africa
      Oldest child of Nelson Mandela and his first wife Evelyn Ntoko Mase. Brother of Makgatho Lewanika Mandela, Makaziwe Mandela and Pumla Makaziwe Mandela-Amuah. Madiba was often referred to as "Styles Mandela" because of the fashionable way he dressed.
      (Add a Photo)Makaziwe Mandela
      BIRTH 1947 South Africa
      DEATH 1948 South Africa
      Second child born to Nelson Mandela and his first wife Evelyn Ntoko Mase. She only lived to be 9 months old. Sister of Madiba Thembekile Mandela, Makgatho Lewanika Mandela and Pumla Makaziwe Mandela-Amuah (the latter whom was given Makaziwe's name upon her birth in 1954).

      Makgatho Lewanika Mandela
      BIRTH 26 Jun 1950 South Africa
      DEATH 6 Jan 2005
      Third child born to Nelson Mandela and his first wife Evelyn Ntoko Mase. Brother of Madiba Thembekile Mandela, Makaziwe Mandela and Pumla Makaziwe Mandela-Amuah. Father of Mandla, Ndaba, Mbuso and Andile.
      Phothos of their daughters
      Evelyn Ntoko Mase Rakeepile
      NELSON MANDELA HEARS THE TRUTH AT HIS SISTER'S FUNERAL
      Sister Piliso, the youngest sister of Nelson Mandela, President of South Africa, was a witness for twenty years
      source
       
    • By Kurt
      Mark McCumber (born September 7, 1951) is an American professional golfer who has played on the PGA Tour and Champions Tour.
      McCumber was born and raised in Jacksonville, Florida, where he attended Robert E. Lee High School. He turned professional in 1974 and joined the PGA Tour in 1978. McCumber won ten times on the PGA Tour between 1979 and 1994 including the prestigious Players Championship (1988) and Tour Championship (1994). He also won the World Cup for the United States in partnership with Ben Crenshaw in 1988. He played on the 1989 Ryder Cup team.
      McCumber worked as an on-course reporter for NBC Sports in 1991 and for ABC Sports part-time in 1998 and full-time in 1999.
      After turning 50 in 2001, McCumber played on the Champions Tour from 2001 to 2008,[2] but did not win an event in this venue. He also works as a golf course architect and was occasionally featured as a golf analyst on Fox Sports. McCumber is a member of the American Society of Golf Course Architects.
      McCumber and his wife, Paddy, have two daughters and a son. One of his sons, Tyler, is also a professional golfer. McCumber is a devout Jehovah's Witnesses who preaches in his spare time.
      source
    • By Bible Speaks
      British Boxing Champion, retired and serves as a Jehovah's Witness.
      http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/when-you-knock-out-vitali-klitschko-by-accident/

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    • By Kurt
      Is Richard Clayderman a Jehovah's Witness?
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    • The bible itself says that we must not have fellowship with those who are brazen in conduct.  There is no "threat".  When a person is a spiritual threat to other brothers and sisters and does not stop brazen conduct......then only, after they have been requested many times to stop unacceptable behaviour,  are they disfellowshipped.  These are the ones who usually then defame JWs and hide the truth-  that they were disfellowshipped because of a Christian conduct,  be it repetitive lying, stealing, fornication etc...... a practice of some und of unacceptable behaviour. Many realize the need to change and come back into the fold - others become more brazen..... and defame JWs.   I see you did not like this comment. ...... it says a lot about you.  People like to blame "others" .... never themselves.... Adam blamed eve.... lol.
    • My daughter bought a small home in UK in a safe area. One bathroom, 3 bedrooms - and it costs over over half million pounds.   So a 1 million pound house (especially in London must be the size of a dingy) and  is definitely not the epitome of luxury -  which impression you are trying to create. To sell a house that people have been using is good. They can use this money to assist brothers in the rest of the world. I guess they are selling because it is no longer needed..... but if they kept it you would also complain.  One cannot ever please some people.....
    • I guess - according to you -  we can throw out all the scriptures which indicate the anointed will have heavenly bodies such as 1 cor 15 and revelations - too many places to mention.  Not even those which show they will be changed in an instant. And the scriptures in Hebrews which indicate that they will be priests in the heavenly temple of jehovah.   Jehovah is perfect in logic, so why give a heavenly body when a physical body is more suited to the earth?  The marriage of the lamb will take place where? Did Jesus give up his earthly body to receive a heavenly  spiritual body? And did he really say to his disciples they will be with him where he is? Agh, there are just too many scriptures which indicate it is a heavenly kingdom and heavenly rulership....and a heavenly priesthood - a function you have forgotten about by just wanting to " rule"......... .which tells me you are up to your same old, same old behaviours.  You boast you are of the body of christ...... so which "body" do you belong to which has perfect unity? . How many members?  Where do you meet?  And are you and your adherents fulfilling the prophesy that the good news of the kingdom will be preached throughout the earth?     
    • And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10  and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kingsr over the earth.”Rev 5:9,10 - NWT As a JW, this sounded accurate to me, since it fit the supporting doctrine that the “144,000” will rule strictly from heaven – “over” the earth...not within its vicinity, but from the spiritual realm.  What I have since learned about this scripture and Christ’s truth regarding where the anointed will be “ruling” from, has been an important turning point for me. Notice how the organization’s own Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures breaks down vs. 10: “and you made them to the God of us kingdom and priests and they are reigning upon the earth” Here are a few other examples: “And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.”  Scripture4all.org “…they will reign upon the earth”.  https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/5-10.htm It is very rare to find a Bible translation using the phrase “over the earth” in this scripture. The organization’s latest pictorial depiction of the 144,000 kings/priests ruling in heaven was of a vast array of emerald green thrones where men appearing identical to one another and to Christ, gazed over the earth as Christ’s “co-rulers”.  I wonder what the anointed JW women feel about a female’s apparent transition into a man, who are clones of each other.  This teaching sounds ridiculous to me today.  However, since the role of JW women is repeatedly slighted, should we expect any acknowledgement of the anointed being both male and female?  I could be in error, but I haven’t seen any photos of women partaking in the magazines.  There is no Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.  Gal 3:28 To be one in Christ does not mean the faithful sealed anointed take on the same physical appearance as Christ. All of the members of a fleshly body are distinctly different in appearance; working separately yet collectively, with the unified goal to allow the body to work efficiently.  It is the same in the Body of Christ. 1 Cor 12:15-20  All are given various gifts, and all are individuals with individual personalities. They have abilities reflecting the gift they receive.  Paul described it this way: There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.  1 Cor 12:4-6 If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body. 1 Cor 12:19,20 Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized byone Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many. 1 Cor 12:12-14 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. 16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.  Eph 4:11-16 The 144,000 are the Bride of Christ under the New Covenant “woman”/promise.   (2 Cor 11:2; Eph 5:29-32; Gal 4:26) It is curious that the WT's leaders rarely go into detail about this.  When I recall their latest illustration described above, I don’t believe the artist had the idea of “bride” in mind. I could only sense an aura of steely authority, without the needed compassion and love that Jesus exhibited and taught his disciples to nurture within themselves. (Isa 42:3; Matt 14:14; John 13:34,35; 1 John 4: 17; Heb 4:15) Just as a bride and groom are not identical to each other, neither is Christ’s Bride of many members; either to Christ, or to one another, as the illustration erroneously shows. (1 Cor 12:29,30; Eph 4:11-13)  Marriage partners compliment and support each other in love.  It is the same with the Body of Christ, being united in one Spirit that imparts love, faith and knowledge of Christ and the Father. The organization’s leaders are unable to perceive this spiritual unity, since they have rejected the Spirit of Christ, in exchange for the spirit of Satan.  (John 15:4-7;1 Cor 6:15-17; 2 Cor 11:3; 2 Pet 1:10; Rev 2:4; 8:10;13:11) Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.  1 Cor 2:12-14  In order to “rule on the earth”, God’s priests must be on the earth.  If we can shed the false belief that once the 144,000 are sealed in “heaven” they will remain there, we are then able to grasp how such “heavenly” angel/messenger/priests will be found ruling, teaching, and helping God’s future children on the earth.  (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Heb 1:14; Rev 5:9,10)   We can comprehend God’s “new creation” as having two “births”; one by fleshly parents through Adam and Eve, (Gen 2:7) and one by spiritual parents.  (John 3:3,5; 1 Cor 15:50; John 15:45; 20:22; Gal 4:26) Once Jesus was resurrected, he appeared many times to his disciples in the flesh; and just as easily, disappeared into the spirit realm.   His example set the precedence of what it means to be a “new creation”.  (Mark 16:12; John 21:14; 1 Cor 15:3-8)  By combining this event with Pearl Doxsey's help from her article, “Who are the gods?”, we can visualize the 144,000 “angels” present not only in the spirit realm, but on earth as well: The sons of God ("gods") inherit the promises given to Abraham. What promises are these? "I will make you very fruitful (John 15:8) I will make nations of you (Rev 5:9,10), and kings will come from you (Rev 20:4; 1:5; 3:21; 19:16,15; 2:26,27)". “Jacob had a dream in which he saw a stairway resting on the earth, with its top reaching to heaven, and the angels of God were ascending and descending on it.  There above it stood the Lord, and he said: "I am the Lord, the God of your father Abraham and the God of Isaac. I will give you and your descendants the land on which you are lying  (Ps 37:29; Heb 2:5,16; Gal 3:29; Heb 11:8-10; 13:14; Rev 21:2; Heb 12:22,23; Luke 10:20) (Gen.17:6).  Your descendants will be like the dust of the earth, and you will spread out to the west and to the east, to the north and to the south. All peoples on earth will be blessed through you and your offspring (Rev 22:2). I am with you and will watch over you wherever you go (Matt 28:20), and I will bring you back to this land (Rev 21:7).  I will not leave you (John 14:18) until I have done what I have promised you (John 16:22).  Jacob was afraid and said, “How awesome is this place (Heb 12:22,23,28)! This is none other than the house of God (1 Cor 3:9,16; Isa 56:7; Eph 2:19,10); this is the gate of heaven (Rev 11:6; Matt 16:19; Rev 3:12; John 10:9; 2 Cor 5:20)." (Gen.28:12-15,17) "Jesus added, “Very truly I tell you, you will see ‘heaven open (Luke 24:32; Rev 2:17; Matt 13:11; Rev 4:1; 1:1)  (John 3:12; 1 Cor 2:12,13; Col 3:2), and the angels of God ascending and descending (Heb 12:22; Eph 2:6; Rev 3:21) "on* (Greek--*"in service to") the Son of Man.” (John 1:51) The "angels" (Lit. Greek, "messengers" – Isa 43:10,21; 1 Pet 2:9; Mal 2:7; Acts 1:8) referred to here, could not have served before the time of Christ (John 3:13) Jesus specifically said that they are in service on "the Son of Man" (1 Cor 4:1).  The "Son of Man" is Jesus in the flesh (John 1:14). Therefore, these angels serve Christ, after his coming down from heaven.  To be a messenger of Christ ("ambassador") who harbors God's spirit of life within... who has been made new (Rom 12:2; 8:11) as a part of God's new creation (2 Cor 5:17) by means of incorruptible seed, the Word of God (1 Pet 1:23; Luke 8:11)... …who has been reborn as a Son of the Most High (John 3:3,5; Rom 8:16,17,19,28-30)... who has been made an immovable pillar in the eternal heavenly Temple of God (Rev 3:12; Prov 9:1; Jer 1:18)... ...is a "god" (Ps 82:6; Rom 8:14; 1 Cor 8:5).  I do hope readers here find this information to be a personal turning point as it was for me, in learning that both Christ and the 144,000 kings and priests/ Bride of Christ, will have access to heaven as well as on earth, and living among God’s future children in the Kingdom. “You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden.” Matt 5:14  Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. Rev 21:1-3  “But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple” Rev 21:22 And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him. 4 They shall see His face, and His name shall be on their foreheads. 5 There shall be no night there: They need no lamp nor light of the sun, for the Lord God gives them light. And they shall reign forever and ever. Rev 22:3-5 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 1 Cor 3:16 Pearl Doxsey: (type in her name and the title of the article in the search bar. The link should appear) “End of the New Covenant” “Those not anointed – what benefit now?” “The Holy City”   PLEASE SEE AND ENJOY,   “The Holy City” - http://pearl-holycity.blogspot.com/   Pearl Doxsey, “End of the New Covenant” Those not anointed-what benefit now? - http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/04/i-received-two-questions-1.html         And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.” (Heb.1:6) "Jesus will again, be brought into the world. At that time, the totality of his angels/messengers, will worship him... and be in service to, the Son of Man."  Pearl Doxsey
    • We do have very good reasons, the math for 1914 wouldn't work out otherwise Yes, I think we would laugh. After all, messing around with numbers to "fit something you want it to fit" sounds pretty cultish. When looking at this subject again, in light of Br. Splane's talk about types and antitypes, and how he said that (paraphrased) we have to make sure that when we are talking about types, that they are genuine types, because the word of God says they are puts a whole different slant on it. Then the idea is enforced even further when he says who is to decide if a person or event is a type, if the word of God doesn't say anything about it and he quotes Br. Shroeder: ( We need to exercise great care when applying accounts in the Hebrew Scriptures as prophetic patterns or types if these accounts are not applied in the Scriptures themselves). Therefor reading the account in Daniel 4 without any preconceived ideas, I see these main lessons: verse 17  "This is by the decree of watchers, and the request is by the word of the holy ones, so that people living may know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind and that he gives it to whomever he wants, and he sets up over it even the lowliest of men.”  Lesson: (quite self explanatory really) Jehovah can do what he wants because he is the ultimate sovereign. verse 27  "Therefore, O king, may my counsel be acceptable to you. Turn away from your sins by doing what is right, and from your iniquity by showing mercy to the poor. It may be that your prosperity will be extended". Lesson: Listen to Jehovah and do right, otherwise Jehovah will discipline you. verse 37  “Now I, Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar, am praising and exalting and glorifying the King of the heavens, because all his works are truth and his ways are just, and because he is able to humiliate those who are walking in pride. Lesson: similar to above, and also proof that Jehovah carries out his discipline.  ---------------- The reasoning put forward as to why this particular chapter of Daniel (4) has greater meaning (paraphrased from WT October 2014) is that the book of Daniel has a central theme, that of God's Kingdom, and keeps pointing forward to the establishment of that Kingdom under the rulership of his Son, Jesus. For example what it says in Daniel 2:44: "“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever.” I can see that Daniel Ch 2 is talking about Neb's. dream of the statue, representing subsequent rulerships, and that during the feet period God's Kingdom will come. In my opinion this is one valid and definite description of when the Kingdom will come. Then Chapters 7 and 8 are full of cryptic beasts, Chapter 9 prophesy about the coming of the Messiah including his cutting off, chapter 11 more cryptic descriptions, this time involving the king of the north and south, and the last chapter (12) the time of the end with Michael standing up. I need an encoder! I must admit, because of my more practical disposition, when we studied the Daniel book, I did not pay enough attention. My son was quite small and I had my hands full, and I can't even remember if we studied it again after that? For example what are these numbers about?: Daniel 12:11  “And from the time that the constant feature has been removed and the disgusting thing that causes desolation has been put in place, there will be 1,290 days. 12  “Happy is the one who keeps in expectation and who arrives at the 1,335 days!" (It's ok, no need to answer, I can look it up myself).   ,Sorry, I was being confusing. I didn't mean 607 was special. I meant what happened when counting 2520 years from that date, I meant that 1914 was a very significant year. (have to go, will carry on later)
    • My daughter would play her album Time After Time, over and over. When I found out that Eva Cassidy had already died when the album came out, it kind of made a few of the songs sound even more "haunting" than they already were.
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