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    • By The Librarian
      español / Italiano
      Part of a series on: Jehovah's Witnesses >
      Baptized JW's
      Serena Williams- tennis player ; 8 Grand Slam champion. Her "baptized" status is disputed since she has never been disfellowshipped for having a baby out of wedlock with Drake or her publicly nude photographs. Let's just say she is now the most famous celebrity who CLAIMS to be one.
      Venus Williams - tennis player ; 5 time Grand Slam champion
      Damon Wayans - TV and Film Comedy Star. Part of "The Wayans Brothers" TV show back in the 1990's. - Their father was a JW (someone mentioned even Anointed)
      Michael Jackson
      Michael Jackson's Children and Mother Katherine Jackson
      Rebbie Jackson - Singer, daughter of Katherine Jackson


      Prince Rogers Nelson

      Marques Houston - Singer and former member of the kid group "Immature" (and his manager)
      Luke Evans - Actor

      Coco Rocha- International Fashion Model
      Terrence Howard - actor; Ray, Hustle & Flow, etc. Children and brother are JWs. Studied when he was 17 years old.
      Bria Valente - Prince's Ex-GF back in 2007 - She has since remarried to another brother

      George Benson - Musician / singer (see also: George Benson and Friends - Sing Praises to Jehovah)

      **El General** - Panamanian singer

      Bobby Martin - Grammy winning producer. 
      Mateo - African Musician 
      Aoife Ní Thuairisg - Irish Television Presenter
      Tulsi Giri - Prime Minister of Nepal
      Bill Underwood - Reporter for the Phoenix Times Examiner
      Alexander P. Stewart - US Civil War Confederate General
      Allison Lozz - Mexican Actress (former). recently left novelas (soap operas) to be a more active in the ministry, Spanish speaking members would know them.
      Maurizio Bianchi - Musician
      Ivana Brkic - Croatian Musician
      Angelo Palego - Leader of team searching for Noah's Ark
      Firpo Carr - Historian, author of Germany's Black Holocaust: 1890-1945; Wicked Words: Poisoned Minds - Racism in the Dictionary; founder: Scholar Technological Institute of Research, Inc. (STIR)
      Henry Carr - Olympian and NFL player (deceased)
      Herman Pizzanelli - Leading Uruguayan concert guitarist in the 1960s (convert to JWs)
      Willie Wise - NBA professional basketball player for Seattle Super Sonics and Denver Nuggets
      Dave Meyers - Professional basketball player (Los Angeles Lakers in 1970s)
      Mark McCumber - Professional golfer
      Dave Pear - NFL professional football player for Colts, Buccaneers, and Raiders (convert)
      Kid Gavilan - welterweight champion boxer; elected to boxing Hall of Fame in 1990 (convert to JWs)
      Jorge Påez "El Maromero" - Boxing World Champion 
      Pele Reid - Boxing Champion
      Shont'e Peoples - professional football player (Saskatchewan Roughriders); convert to JWs
      La Lupe - Cuban salsa singer (convert)
      Janis Gill - ex wife of country music superstar, Vince Gill, is one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Vince Gill is NOT a Witness. He is strongly and violently opposed.
      Fedor Chistyakov - Russian Singer
      Richard Cameron - Dutch Musician
      Valerie Campbell - Mother of Naomi Campbell
      Tom Edur - Former NHL ice hockey player
      Mrs.Ida Eisenhower - (Mother of President Dwight D Eisenhower)
      Leopold Engleitner - Buchenwald concentration camp survivor and centenarian
      Mickey Spillane - Novelist
      Larry Graham - Sly & the Family Stone

      Danny Granger - Indiana Pacers small forward; Professional Basketball Player
      Teresa Graves - Reputedly the first black woman to play the lead in a police movie, also a singer

      Gary Gygax - Co-creator of Dungeons & Dragons 

      Scott Johnson - Actor
      Phillip Landry - Musican
      Maher Shalal Hash Baz - Japanese musician, name comes from the Book of Isaiah
      Margaret Keane - "Big Eyes" artist who said converting "changed her life."
      Peter Knowles - Famous soccer player in England who quit his football career in 1970 aged 24 to join the Jehovah's Witnesses
      Brian Locking - Bass guitarist with The Shadows for eighteen months, but left to Jehovah's Witnesses activities.
      Hank Marvin - Lead guitarist for The Shadows

      Bohumil Müller - Czech survivor of the Mauthausen-Gusen concentration camp and underground religious leader under Communism.
      Viv Nicholson - famous London lottery winner in 1961. She then became a devout JW. The musical Spend, Spend, Spend was based on her story.
      Evelyn Ntoko (first wife of Nelson Mandela)
      Lieby Piliso - Nelson Mandela's younger sister
      Ken Richmond - The man who banged the gong in the Rank Organisation film logo from 1955 onward.
      **Gevorg Petrosyanm** -The Georgian-Armenian “Caruso,” who drives a taxi, but dreams of the stage
      Miu Sakamoto - Japanese Singer, a Daughter of Ryuichi Sakamoto andAkiko Yano
      Damo Suzuki (Converted in the 1970s, current membership status uncertain)
      Bobby Tambling - English footballer
      Phil Terry - member of the 60's R&B group The Intruders.
      David Thomas - Avant-garde rocker, "Jehovah's Kingdom come"[2][3]
      Jean Terrell - Replaced Diana Ross in the Supremes in 1970.
      Akira Toriyama - Japanese Mangaka(Cartoonist), Author of Dragon Ball(Manga)
      Yoshito Usui - Japanese Mangaka, Author of Crayon Shin-chan
      Reena Virk - Canadian child murder victim
      Lark Voorhies - actress, Saved By The Bell
      Lou Whitaker - Former MLB baseball player for the Detroit Tigers.
      Chet Lemon - played with the Detroit Tigers along with Lou Whitaker

      Akiko Yano - Japanese Singer, Former wife of Ryuichi Sakamoto
      Solveig Romero - Mexico and Switzerland, Actress and wife of Martin Campbell, the director of James Bond Casino Royale
      Chuck Winfield - Former Trumpet player for Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
      Rosalia Valdez - Former actress who left fame in Mexico to become a witness, daughter of famous Tin Tan Valdez.
      Carmina Villarroel - Filipino actress
      Patience Dlaminh - a weather forecast reporter in South Africa / Regional 'celebrity'
      Red Shea - Guitarist for Gordon Lightfoot (passed away in 2008)
      Tom Reynolds - He was one of the singers in the late 60's early 70's band 'Hamilton, Joe,Frank, & Reynolds.
      Toun Oni - Nigerian actress (featured in the TV drama 'fuji house of commotion') She was an active witness before her death a few months ago. In fact, she died of heart problems during the Lekki assembly hall construction work.
      Paul i.k Dairo (used to be one of Nigeria's top musicians); Last i heard of him, he is one of Jehovah witnesses.
      Wolf-Ekkehard Lonnig - a scientist from the Max Planck Institute for Plant Breeding Research in Germany
      Hayden Covington - leading attorney for the Jehovah's Witnesses, Watchtower Society; won multiple U.S. Supreme Court cases; represented Muhammad Ali in court [not sure if he left eventually or not?]
      Chappel Fisher - Country Music DJ in Florida, USA
      Michael Worilds - NFL Player
      Tony Garcia - Artist, DJ, Producer, Re-mixer, Arranger, Composer,Writer of Dance Music EDM, Funk Melody Freestyle Music Owner of High Power Records


      Honorable B. Dwight Goains - US Federal Judge
      Micaiah and Tabitha Bethune - Owners of the Fashion Industry "The Wild Life Reserve" out of New Orleans
      Alex Rance - Soccer Star

      Pavel Pavlov & Aleksandr Kryukov - Ukrainian YouTube Stars
      Minh Hung Godenzi - Miss Hong Kong 1984
      Danny Collision - NBA Player currently in California
      Clarion Chukwurah - Nollywood Actress
      Irina Bohr - Russian singer
      Alisson Euler de Freitas Castro - Brazilian Footballer
      Carlos Gonzaga - Brazilian Singer
      Andriy Mykolayovych Nesmachniy (Ukrainian: Андрій Миколайович Несмачний)
      PC-One - Star of Slam in Haiti
      Jacy Brean - Author 
      Mina Godenzi - Actress, Model and Miss Hong Kong
      Phillip Ingram - Musician
      Ramón Gómez Valdés de Castillo aka "Don Ramón" - Famous Mexican Actor
      Kenya Moore - not sure as to her current status though. 
      Anneliese Zelina - Model
      Raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses
      Dwight D. Eisenhower - WWII General and Former President of the USA
      Childish Gambino Rapper, TV actor
      Michael Sam - First Gay NFL football player

      Nathan Day, frontman of grunge / Britpop group Darlia - "I grew up with a family whose parents were Jehovah’s Witnesses, so I felt very isolated."
      Kia Kahlo- Witness to rap
      Jacqueline Woodson
      Dwight David Eisenhower who became the 34th President of the United States (1953–1961)
      Meg Myers - Musician / Singer
      Nathan Haines - Saxophonist
      Shushila Takao - Actress in New Zealand show "Filthy Rich"

      Kim Holland - Dutch Porn Actress

      Little Scream - Montreal musician
      Kelsey Lu - Fashion model
      Rebekah Vardy - I'm a Celeb star
      Alex Avery - Comedian in Portland, OR
      List of former Jehovah's Witnesses
      Michelle Rodriguez - actress, raised by mother
      Donald Glover - (aka Childish Gambino)
      Gregg Alexander - The New Radicals' lead singer; raised by mother
      Carol M. Swain - political scientist; professor at Vanderbilt University; author of Black Faces, Black Interests and The New White Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to Integration; left the Witnesses at the age of 20, in 1975 (Ms. Swain was born in 1954 into an extremely poor household in rural Virginia, not far from Roanoke. She grew up with 11 brothers and sisters, dropped out of school in the ninth grade and married at age 16 -- in part, she says, because she saw no need to plan for a lengthy future. She was a Jehovah's Witness, and she believed that Armageddon would begin in 1975)
      Peter Andre - Singer raised in Australia, presently living in London with wife pin up model *Jordan
      Naomi Campbell- Supermodel; Raised by mother
      Geri Halliwell - Singer (Spice Girls); Raised as a Jehovah's Witness[verification needed]
      Barbara Grizzuti Harrison - American writer of Visions of Glory: A History and a Memory of Jehovah's Witnesses(converted to Catholicism)
      Nancy Garrido - the now infamous kidnapper of Jaycee Dugard
      Latoya Jackson
      Michael Jackson - Michael became a Jehovah's Witness but disassociated himself shortly after his hit album, Thriller
      Olin R. Moyle - Former Watchtower Chief Attorney
      Dave Mustaine - Guitarist (ex-Metallica; Megadeth; ex- MD .45)
      Miki Nakatani - JapaneseActress, Raised as a Jehovah's Witness
      Gloria Naylor - novelist, author of The Women of Brewster Place (1982, American Book Award)
      Patti Smith - Singer and poet
      Leo Volpe
      Jill Scott-Singer; raised as one of Jehovah's Witness
      Hinano Yoshikawa - JapaneseFashion model and actress, Raised as a Jehovah's Witness
      K-os - Canadian R&B artist ; Raised Jehovah's Witness
      Rene Montes de Oca Martija - dissident human-rights activist in Cuba (son of JW)
      Selena Quintanilla Perez - __Tejano__ singer ; raised Jehovah's Witnesses
      Sherri Shepherd from The View. Her father is an elder in his congregation.
      Jill Scott - a singer,poet & actress from USA, she played in the movie-'why did i get married'
      Maureen Mwanawasa, wife of late Zambian president, though she disassociated herself, but she still attends meetings. the late president was also studying with JWs, his mother was a JW. his children also attend meetings, i think one is a publisher.
      Thandiwe Banda our current Zambian first lady who was a JW until recently when she disassociated herself. Reportedly a former pioneer.
      Mamontha Modise was a JW. travels all over the world to report current news 2 South Africans.
      Ja Rule - Rapper - raised a jehovahs witness and is no longer one, in an interview he said his mother was disfellowshipped
      Jaywon; currently a musician, was raised a witness, later decided to follow a way of life thats suits him.
      Rick Haynes - Musician
      Travis Scott - NFL football player for Rams (raised JW)
      Scott Cheshire - Gotham City Writers
      Eddie Griffin - Comedian
      Leaders of the music band Shakespeare's Unit
       
      Rumors of:
      Eddie Murphy - Not verified yet
      Josh Groban - We don't know what to think yet.. ? Some have suspicions....
      Omarion - I believe he is only "studying"
      Jackie Chan - (I still don't believe the photo)
       
      Please Read
      Some people have wondered if we have listed people who simply studied briefly with Jehovah's Witnesses. As far as we know, this is not the case. Anybody can sit down and meet with Jehovah's Witnesses to study their beliefs. In no way would we consider that grounds for identifying somebody as a Jehovah's Witness. All of the people listed on our page have actually been considered Jehovah's Witnesses or considered themselves adherents of the faith, either by way of having been raised in the faith or because they were an active convert to the faith.
      Of course no insult is meant to Jehovah's Witnesses or anybody else by hosting this list. Personally, reading the biographies and faith statements of many famous Jehovah's Witnesses has helped tear down some stereotypes for me. It simply isn't true, for example, that this faith necessarily stifles creativity or achievement. Clearly, many adherents to the faith (including people raised in it as well as converts who chose to become Witnesses as adults) have been very famous creative people or have been very successful, as measured by worldly standards.
      Regardless of the obvious tensions between the pressures of worldly fame, versus remaining active in a religious faith which expects all of its members to live according to the highest Biblical standards of ethics and morality, there are indeed many "famous" adherents who have strived to remain faithful. Even for those who have failed to balance fame and success with the demands of their faith, the teachings and values they were raised with or embraced at some point as an adult remain forever an influence in their lives. Were this not true, these individuals would not be listed here at all. This list is based on what famous people themselves have said to interviewers and to the public. We have no access to actual Jehovah's Witness membership or attendance records. If a celebrity or famous person doesn't talk publicly about their experiences as a Jehovah's Witness, we would have no way of knowing about this part of their lives.
      The actions of a single individual should never be used to judge an entire group of people, and I believe most people realize this. Anybody who does try to condemn Jehovah's Witnesses by the behavior of their "worst" lapsed members or former members will stand instantly condemned themselves. This is because the cumulative behavior of the famous (and infamous) members of the group the accuser belongs to is far worse than anything they will be able to dig up relating to people who have been Jehovah's Witnesses. This is true of essentially any sufficiently large religious group. It is true also of anti-religious people, who are nearly always wise enough to avoid condemning entire groups by the actions of individuals, lest they be asked to answer for the hundreds of millions of murders perpetrated by Lenin, Pol Pot, Stalin, Adolph Hitler, Mao, Mussolini, Nicolae Ceausescu, Joseph Goebbels, Maximillien Robespierre, etc.
       
    • Guest Indiana
      By Guest Indiana
      WASHINGTON – Kirstjen Nielsen, who oversaw President Donald Trump's hard-line immigration policies as secretary of Homeland Security, is leaving her post amid tensions with some in the White House who felt she hasn't done enough to stem border crossings. 
      Trump tweeted Sunday that Nielsen is leaving the post she has held since the end of 2017. 
      "Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen will be leaving her position, and I would like to thank her for her service," he said. He said Kevin McAleenan, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection commissioner, will become the acting DHS secretary. McAleenan has held senior posts within CBP dating back to President George W. Bush's administration.
      Rea more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/07/kirstjen-nielsen-out-trump-secretary-homeland-security/1895285002/
    • By Witness
      The person who made this short quip was never a JW, although he is able to perceive the contradiction of teachings by the governing body.  
      Can you perceive the confusion?  (meaning of "Babylon")
       
    • By The Librarian
      Jehovah's Witnesses > Notable JW's
      See also: Celebrities who are/were JW's
      Alive:
      Brothers:
      Mark Sanderson
      William Malenfant
      Don Adams
      Karl A. Adams
      Joel Adams
      Michael Aronowitz
      Ted Armstrong
      Malcolm Allen
      David Ianelli
      Norman Mosure "Stormin' Norman" - District Overseer
      George Couch (Bethelite 1957-2007)
      Geoffrey Jackson (Governing Body Member)
      Colin Quackenbush - Talk / Talk (still alive?)
      Angelo Manera - District Overseer - Talk
      Judah Schroeder
      Gary Breaux oversees Richard Ashe
       
      Sisters:
      Simone Arnold Liebster

       
      Deceased:
      Pastor Charles Taze Russell (spouse) (foster daughter)
      Joseph L. Russell
      Alexander H MacMillan
      George Storrs (Influenced Pastor Russell)
      Henry Grew (Influenced Pastor Russell)
      George Stetson (Influenced Pastor Russell)
      Judge Rutherford / Joseph Franklin Rutherford
      Nathan Knorr
      Nelson H. Barbour (Influenced Pastor Russell Pre-Watch Tower)
      Frederick William Franz
      Raymond Franz
      Theodore Jaracz
      Daniel Sydlik
      Carey Barber
      Karl A Adams
      Milton G. Henschel
      Liebster, Max
      John E. Barr
      Leopold Engleitner
      William 'Bible' Brown
      W. Glen How
      Grant Suiter
      Hayden C. Covington
      Olin R. Moyle
      Ulysses Glass - Gilead Instructor
      Bob Mackey
      Benjamin Martin
      J.R. Brown
      Albert Schroeder
      Charles Sinutko
      Sisters:
      Nancy Yuen
      Lilian Gobitas Klose
      Dorothy Covington, Wife of Civil Liberties Attorney Hayden Covington, Dies at 92
      Jeanette (Jenny) Jackson

      See also:
      Bethel Personnel Assignments (2000)
       
      Note - Over the past 15 years keeping information available, organized and online has proven very difficult. If you see a name above then there was once an entire article, photos and more about the person yet they have been lost through moves and technology changes. If you have lots of details about one of them please make a topic and start posting about them. I will link them up at a later date.
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      HAVANA TIMES – Daniel Ortega has achieved what neither Putin, nor climate change, nor China, nor the immigration problem, nor Maduro nor Syria could do: he inspired nothing more and nothing less than the adoption of a bipartisan consensus between the US Republican and Democratic parties regarding his regime.
      What’s more, he managed to become a point of consensus between the US Executive branch, headed by Trump, and the US Congress. It may seem a lie or an exaggeration, but no other topic during Trump’s administration has been resolved with this level of consensus.
      In reacting to the decisions adopted by the organs of United States power, Ortega momentarily dusted off the old speeches that he had kept filed away these eleven years and spoke once again of interventionism, of imperialism and other expressions of the like. Then, he fell silent.
      He’ll likely speak about it again once he’s assimilated the blow and has designed the course he’ll follow. Meanwhile, it’s important to recall that Nicaragua’s economic dependence with respect to the United States has broadened and deepened during this “antiimperialist” regime of Ortega’s.
      Read more: https://havanatimes.org/?p=145130
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      A Florida couple is recalling a distressing experience on a Carnival Cruise after finding a hidden camera pointing at their bed. 
      In an interview set to air Monday, Chris and Dana White told Inside Edition that they discovered a recording device hidden among TV wires in their stateroom last October on the Carnival Fantasy, a three-day Caribbean cruise departing from Mobile, Alabama. 
      "I said, 'Is that what I think it is?' " Chris White said. "And she looked at it and she became concerned. And we were just really flabbergasted that there's a camera in the room and it's plugged up and it's working."
      The couple called Carnival security and used their cellphone to film an employee who inspected and disassembled the device. "I was thinking, 'I can't believe this is actually happening to us,' " he said.
      https://www.usatoday.com/videos/travel/2018/10/29/couple-claims-secret-camera-aimed-bed-carnival-cruise/1809350002/
      https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2018/10/28/travelers-found-hidden-camera-their-carnival-cruise-bedroom/1800150002/

    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      Legislators ‘need to stopÂ’ working for institutions
      Dave Kohler, of Allentown, was abused by an ordained minister in the Jehovah’s Witnesses in November 1965. He was 9 years old. 
      When Kohler was 17, his abuser told him to never talk about the abuse again. 
      “So I obeyed and kept my mouth shut,” Kohler said. 
      He’s been coming to Harrisburg for about five years to show his support for statute of limitations reform. “Individuals vote them in, and then they work for institutions,” Kohler said of the state legislators. “That needs to stop.”
      If reform is passed that would allow Kohler the opportunity to sue his abuser, Kohler said he knows what he would do with any money he could collect.
      “I will hopefully be able to afford therapy,” he said.

      Dave Kohler, who said he was abused by an ordained minister in the Jehovah's Witnesses in Kutztown and Emmaus, talks about his experience, during the demonstration for statute of limitations reform to the state's childhood sexual abuse laws at the state capitol in Harrisburg on Monday. (Photo: Paul Kuehnel, York Daily Record)
      https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2018/10/15/child-sex-abuse-survivors-demand-reforms-states-statute-laws-harrisburg-senate/1618630002/
    • By Outta Here
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45815889
      This takes the proverbial biscuit. These are guys that plant Jehovah's Witness publications on................Jehovah's Witnesses!!!
      They might be in for a decoration!
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      SCHOHARIE, N.Y. — It was an intersection of two highways, one a steep downhill road, that residents had long warned was notoriously dangerous.
      On Saturday afternoon, their worst fears were realized: A limousine lost control, careening through the intersection and striking an empty car. The crash killed all 18 people in the white limousine and two pedestrians in an accident that left deep tire tracks in the ground and a small upstate New York town reeling.
      “That limo was coming down that hill probably over 60 miles per hour,” said Jessica Kirby, 36, the manager of the Apple Barrel Country Store, where she said customers were hit near the parking lot. “All fatal.”
      “I don’t want to describe the scene,” she added. “It’s not something I want to think about.”
      Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/07/nyregion/wedding-limo-crash-schoharie-ny.html
    • By admin
      Jehovah's Witnesses > List of Celebrity JW's > Coco Rocha (older posts in jw-archive.org)
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      Previous posts of Coco Rocha
       
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      'Biased assumptions'
      While most of the comments on the post in the Facebook page debated the merits of the celebrations and the priorities of the district, some focused on the religious beliefs of those who don't celebrate Halloween.
      Halloween began as the Celtic festival Samhain, where people would light bonfires and wear costumes to frighten ghosts, according to History.com. Due to its roots, the holiday isn't celebrated by certain religions or groups, including Jehovah's Witnesses, some Christians, Orthodox Jews and Muslims.
      "It is the stated strategy of some to use our own laws against us," reads on comment on Facebook. "Wake up people. Nothing is an 'American Tradition' anymore. (And many who move here aren't doing so to become American)."
      Another comment asked "Who is ruining traditions?" The response from a different person, which has since been deleted, read: "Muslims."
      Kucinski said statements such as these are "very hurtful to people who are equally American but may be of a different culture, religion, or hold different beliefs than those who are making these comments."
      "This discussion has emboldened certain voices in our community to make sweeping biased assumptions against groups of people that may or may not be the ones that are holding their kids home from school," she said. "Does it matter what group or groups are keeping their kids home and missing a fun celebration at school? No."
      Littman said it's anyone's right to not celebrate a holiday, though others don't have to follow suit.  
      Read more: https://www.swnewsmedia.com/prior_lake_american/news/elementary-schools-move-away-from-fall-celebrations-spark-debate/article_b3add4dc-b36a-5ceb-a1a7-9128e7cce1e2.html
    • By Srecko Sostar
      3) We do not lobby, vote in political elections, run for government office, or try to change governments. …Otherwise, how could we have a clean conscience when we preach the good news that only God’s Kingdom can solve mankind’s problems? source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2016288#h=36
       
      lobby verb [ I or T ]  UK  /ˈlɒb.i/ US  /ˈlɑː.bi/
      C2 to try to persuade a politician, the government, or an official group that a particular thing should or should not happen, or that a law should be changed:
      https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lobby
       
      Recent example how WT Company and JW members participated in "lobbying" was writing letters to Russian Government and their politicians. 
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      More than 200 Jehovah's Witnesses - a religious organization banned in Russia - have applied for asylum in Finland. More than 100 members of this organization have arrived in the European country only so far in 2018. According to Juha Simila, representative of the Finnish migration service, about 10 cases have been analyzed so far and, in most of them, Finland rejected the asylum application. Simila explained to the Finnish newspaper Aamulehti that some denials have been appealed to the court and that in one of the cases the negative decision of the migration service has already been confirmed.
      Read more: https://mundo.sputniknews.com/religion/201808221081407393-testigos-jehova-rusos-piden-asilo-en-finlandia/
    • Guest Nicole
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    • I believe the action of the people made it to where the angels sent by God did not find any good hearts to sway that decision. I don't believe Abraham or anyone else was speaking as though they were higher than God. Even though Jesus had that ability to speak out, he also did not question the decisions of God since he would have seen that as an angel, firsthand to be just and a righteous judgment. True. However, I have not found any misinterpretation of prophecy by the Watchtower given to them by God to warrant a redefinition of that interpretation. Divine providence if not given to all disciples of Christ. No different from earlier prophets. However, just like those earlier prophets, the people didn't also like or accept the message given to them by the prophets just as witnesses question the findings given by the Watchtower. This of course will be settled with a judgment. I believe, certain Bible Student congregation continued to follow the advent timeline, however, Russell determination to understand chronology made a conservative effort with God's help to finally understand his own chronology. I believe not even the Edgar's pyramid scheme influenced Russell even though he found it helpful. Perhaps, that is where the confusion lies, the distinct separation of the Bible Student Association and their separate ideologies. I believe the action of another differs from the comment expressed here. I have seen the disappearance of many, at times without uttering a word but adding an emotion as a “like” or “dislike” manner on a subject or post. It appears certain people are just not tolerated, that any means to silence and violate an individual’s right afforded to them under the first amendment bill of Rights which at issue to be, have some kind of decorum that is not exercised by others that have no limitation. While I appreciate the thought, I cannot go beyond the action and limitations imposed to people that speak and find truth on their side.
    • I think that’s very unlikely. I mean, come on, are you going to cuss out an angel—dare him to a fight? Unless you no longer believe in angels, but then the phrase loses its meaning. I think it makes more sense, partly because of the above reasoning and partly because of the aspect of Law that Paul recalled when he cussed out the high priest: “You must not speak injuriously of a ruler of your people.” These ones of Jude had no problem with it. I think that expression is probably like what your mother used to say when upbraiding you for some act of disobedience, prefacing her scolding with: “I suppose you are proud of yourself, are you?!” She doesn’t actually think you are proud—just disobedient, maybe that you think you know better. And in the case of those Corinth elders, negligent—perhaps with some self-exalted view of “tolerance” as you suggest or perhaps just plain negligent. Arguing for the latter is the fact that when they did lower the hammer on this lout, Paul had to counsel them to let up in his next letter—the rebuke of the man had had its effect, but they were slow to see that—or perhaps just negligent once again in the other direction. Negligent is as negligent does. I played a little loose with the term, admittedly. Actually, to the extent that the GB are the successors of those who brought the truth of God’s word to us in the first place, they are the biggest whistleblowers of all time—blowing the whistle on the deceptions of religion claiming to represent God. A lot of detractors today pose as “whistleblowers”—unheeded reformers, who say they do not have anything against Jehovah’s Witnesses—they just want to curtail what they think are wrong practices. It’s hard to ferret out who’s who, here, because these persons mix here with ones who truly would like to see the whole JW structure AND the message they spearhead blown to smithereens. It is easy to overgeneralize, as @Arauna perhaps has done. Still, Shultz on my Twitter feed (of deVienne & Shultz) observed that whistleblowing in the case of JWs is often just a blind for not wanting to live the morals and principles that Witnesses do. It’s hard to believe that those slimy ones of Jude’s letter would have acquiesced to Jude’s description of them. It is far easier to believe that many of them would have repackaged themselves as reformers, whistleblowers, even escaped cult members. The congregation they left was simply too strict, too unyielding, even abusive in “forcing” its version of morality on others, and they would change that.
    • True, but a well-established, misinterpretation of a prophecy has no divine providence. Over the years here, Allen, I've often seen you attack the Bible when you think the Bible contradicts the Watchtower, but here you are attacking both the Bible and the Watchtower:  *** ws17 June p. 13 par. 16 Set Your Heart on Spiritual Treasures *** At times, our understanding of a Bible prophecy or a scripture may be adjusted. When that happens, it is important to take the time to study the adjustment and meditate on it. (Acts 17:11; 1 Timothy 4:15) We not only need to understand the main differences between the old understanding and the new one, but we also need to pay attention to the details of the new understanding. Such a careful study will guarantee that the new truth becomes part of our collection of Bible truths. Why is it good for us to make such efforts? Russell did not reject Barbour's chronology. Years later, after their split, when Barbour began rejecting his own chronology and numerology, Russell continued to accept it and doubled down on it. The split was primarily over variations in their understanding of the ransom, but I was talking about his chronology and numerology. Conflicted or not, I think you should feel welcome to express your opinions, whether they are for or against me, for or against others, the Watchtower, or even the Bible. I have not seen any indication that you are breaking any rules. Controversial discussions might upset people, but that's the value of discussion: it can upset long-established traditions (strongly entrenched ideas/things) and some people have a large emotional investment in these traditions. Some level of "upset" or "disturbance" should be expected. Neither you nor I should be expected to deal with these issues totally devoid of emotion. At least we are mostly trying to stick with the scriptures, the facts and the evidence.     Because of the way that posts are being merged (again) I will take up the subject of the 1260 days and 3 1/2 days in Revelation under another topic heading.
    • I think how another fact is also clear to God. Noah and their family didn't produced better humankind after Flood. According to JW preaching, today's humankind is on top of list in badness.  According to idea you explained, best solution would be, what god once expressed in his thinking - 7 So Jehovah said: “I am going to wipe men whom I have created off the surface of the ground,- to destroy all people and to release himself from this agony :)))
    • (Genesis 6:5-7) 5 Consequently, Jehovah saw that man’s wickedness was great on the earth and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time. 6 Jehovah regretted that he had made men on the earth, and his heart was saddened. 7 So Jehovah said: “I am going to wipe men whom I have created off the surface of the ground, man together with domestic animals, creeping animals, and flying creatures of the heavens, for I regret that I have made them.. . . If we have faith like that of Abraham, then we will ask questions about this. Just as we have asked questions about what Jesus meant when he spoke of a resurrection on Judgment Day for those who were destroyed in Sodom. Abraham asked: (Genesis 18:22-33) . . .Then the men left from there and went toward Sodʹom, but Jehovah remained with Abraham. 23 Then Abraham approached and said: “Will you really sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 24 Suppose there are 50 righteous men within the city. Will you, then, sweep them away and not pardon the place for the sake of the 50 righteous who are inside it? 25 It is unthinkable that you would act in this manner by putting the righteous man to death with the wicked one so that the outcome for the righteous man and the wicked is the same! It is unthinkable of you. Will the Judge of all the earth not do what is right?” 26 Then Jehovah said: “If I find in Sodʹom 50 righteous men in the city, I will pardon the whole place for their sake.” 27 But Abraham again responded: “Please, here I have presumed to speak to Jehovah, whereas I am dust and ashes. 28 Suppose the 50 righteous should lack five. Because of the five will you destroy the whole city?” To this he said: “I will not destroy it if I find there 45.” 29 But yet again he spoke to him and said: “Suppose 40 are found there.” He answered: “I will not do it for the sake of the 40.” 30 But he continued: “Jehovah, please, do not become hot with anger, but let me go on speaking: Suppose only 30 are found there.” He answered: “I will not do it if I find 30 there.” 31 But he continued: “Please, here I have presumed to speak to Jehovah: Suppose only 20 are found there.” He answered: “I will not destroy it for the sake of the 20.” 32 Finally he said: “Jehovah, please, do not become hot with anger, but let me speak just once more: Suppose only ten are found there.” He answered: “I will not destroy it for the sake of the ten.” 33 When Jehovah finished speaking to Abraham, he went his way and Abraham returned to his place. In Christian parlance, even Abraham and Noah were NOT intrinsically righteous, but they were counted as if righteous due to their faith. Jehovah as the Giver of LIfe has a right to destroy everyone. He may also save persons, or bring them back from the dead. And we were made to ask questions in order to understand Jehovah better. It is clear to me that you have never had a five-month old son or daughter, or grand-son or grand-daughter. We can accept that Jehovah knew what would become of those babies in their circumstances of the time. But Jehovah also knows that only those with haughtiness and no natural affection will stop questioning and stop investigating. (Psalm 10:4) . . .In his haughtiness, the wicked man makes no investigation;. . . Just an aside, but that reminds me of how the psalmist almost turns the judgment imagery of the Flood "on its head" in these poetic lines: (Psalm 36:5-8) . . .O Jehovah, your loyal love reaches to the heavens, Your faithfulness up to the clouds.  6 Your righteousness is like majestic mountains; Your judgments are like vast, deep waters. Man and beast you preserve, O Jehovah.  7 How precious your loyal love is, O God! In the shadow of your wings, the sons of men take refuge.  8 They drink their fill of the rich bounty of your house, And you cause them to drink of the torrent of your delights. Like Noah, we are in effect "deluged" with the watery depths of Jehovah's bounteous delights and judgments. But by blaming the young babies, don't you end up losing the natural meaning of Jesus' words about the innocence and humility of children, or what Paul meant when he said: (1 Corinthians 14:20) . . .but be young children as to badness; . . .
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