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They started out with a $3,500 carry-over but by the end of the day they were short $25,000. The speaker eloquently beseeched the audience to go the ATM machines and give their generous contribution or at least their widow's mite. After the sessions were over, our friend who attended walked from one end of the assembly hall and then to the other end and noticed long lines up to both machines with people who couldn't wait to run up their credit cards. Later in the car, even his hard-core JW wife mentioned that she wondered how it cost that much for a one-day assembly in a building that was fully paid for.

I'm guessing maybe a paedophile lawsuit happened during the interval.

 

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On 4/2/2017 at 3:04 PM, Jay Witness said:

The speaker eloquently beseeched the audience to go the ATM machines and give their generous contribution or at least their widow's mite.

How is this not equivalent to passing the plate?  

Why would there be a need for an ATM, or many,  at an event like this? There is no food to be purchased or items to buy that I am aware of. 

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On 4/2/2017 at 5:04 PM, Jay Witness said:

they were short $25,000

Wow, you must have a really nice hall.  Ours was like $8,000.  So about ten bucks a head.  What was your attendance?

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I am sure I will not explain this case, but I can bring the light in to the matter of finance. It is more complex then pay the money for a nice hall. Every assembly elders from the area meet to hear a finance report and approve some money spending like theocratic school, pioneer school or transfer the money to Bethel or whenever it's needed. Don't be foolish to spread the hate.

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Less than full disclosure CREATES hate .. as innocence is assumed to be real conspiracys if it is not crystal clear, based on facts.

A culture of everything being "Eyes Only" secrets breeds distrust.

Only the very young, the very naive, and the very new, trust their Congregational Elders anymore to tell them what is REALLY going on ....

 

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On 04/04/2017 at 8:26 PM, Shiwiii said:

How is this not equivalent to passing the plate?  

Why would there be a need for an ATM, or many,  at an event like this? There is no food to be purchased or items to buy that I am aware of. 

In my mind there is no difference. There is no transparency as to finances in the organisation except at congregation level. The very fact that a financial report is read out at a religious meeting assumes that by so doing those in attendance will be "motivated" to give. It is passing the plate covertly.

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On 5/27/2017 at 15:53, Mike Hora said:

It is more complex

...yes it is. But WT Corporation have no obligations to gives thorough reports to JW members where, how, for what and how much money was used. Members are nothing to WT Corporation, just members which are expected to give donations to "charity". :) 

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On ?10?/?15?/?2017 at 2:23 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

...yes it is. But WT Corporation have no obligations to gives thorough reports to JW members where, how, for what and how much money was used. Members are nothing to WT Corporation, just members which are expected to give donations to "charity". :) 

What charity?

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15 minutes ago, Matthew9969 said:

What charity?

Try with these one in Australia :))) and continue with all around the world to make full circle. :) 

CHARITY DETAILS
 
 
Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Australia
Jehovah's Witnesses
    Hello guest!
InboxLGL.AU@jw.org
12-14 Zouch Road Denham Court NSW 2565 AUSTRALIA
 
About the Charity
01/01/1904
General community in Australia 
Large: Revenue of $1 million or more
31/08
No
Charity's Documents
 
Document Type Date Description
Governing document 27/02/2015
    Hello guest!
 
 
 

Responsible Persons
 
Name Position
    Hello guest!
Secretary
    Hello guest!
Director
    Hello guest!
Director
    Hello guest!
Director
    Hello guest!
Director
Where the Charity Operates
 
Australian Capital Territory 
New South Wales 
Northern Territory 
Queensland 
South Australia 
Tasmania 
Victoria 
Western Australia 
TIMOR-LESTE

    Hello guest!

 

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On ?11?/?14?/?2017 at 1:48 PM, Srecko Sostar said:

Try with these one in Australia :))) and continue with all around the world to make full circle. :) 

CHARITY DETAILS
 
 
Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Australia
Jehovah's Witnesses
    Hello guest!
InboxLGL.AU@jw.org
12-14 Zouch Road Denham Court NSW 2565 AUSTRALIA
 
About the Charity
01/01/1904
General community in Australia 
Large: Revenue of $1 million or more
31/08
No
Charity's Documents
 
Document Type Date Description
Governing document 27/02/2015
    Hello guest!
 
 
 

Responsible Persons
 
Name Position
    Hello guest!
Secretary
    Hello guest!
Director
    Hello guest!
Director
    Hello guest!
Director
    Hello guest!
Director
Where the Charity Operates
 
Australian Capital Territory 
New South Wales 
Northern Territory 
Queensland 
South Australia 
Tasmania 
Victoria 
Western Australia 
TIMOR-LESTE

    Hello guest!

 

Anybody can give out free bibles and teach others to read.

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    Hello guest!

Dear Brothers:

As outlined in our letter of January 22, 2018, online donations via jw.org are now available in the United States for congregations and circuits. The five-minute local needs part on the midweek meeting of March 5, 2018, will be used to explain this arrangement more fully to the congregation. We are now writing to provide more details on how this part will be handled.

We are pleased to inform you that an excerpt from the video entitled “Making Donations Electronically” has been prepared for the congregation. This two-minute video provides a reminder of how to find the donation feature on jw.org, how to set up an account, and how to set up a recurring donation. The screenshots shown in the video have been updated to show the new layout of the donation page on jw.org that includes congregation and circuit donations. The video will soon be available in English and Spanish in the “Event Media” section under the “Documents” tab on jw.org.

Begin the part by summarizing the announcement read the week of February 5, 2018, and playing the video. Thereafter, briefly mention the monthly local expenses that are covered by donations to your congregation. (See letter dated December 2, 2017, paragraphs 22, 23.) Highlight that the jw.org recurring donation feature can be used as a tool for budgeting donations to support these congregation expenses. (1 Cor. 16:2) Provide the congregation with the names of the elders or ministerial servants who have been selected by the body of elders to assist individuals with donations on jw.org. If your congregation has used KHDonate.net in the past, remind the congregation that this service will be discontinued on May 31, 2018, and that any questions about this discontinuation should be directed to KHDonate.net. Warmly commend the congregation for the generous support provided by the brothers and sisters.

Please make sure to follow the feature activation steps before this part is presented, as outlined in the form Instructions for Processing Donations Made to the Congregation via JW.ORG. If the jw.org online donation feature for your congregation has not been activated before the part, inform the congregation of the date that it will be activated or that you have decided not to participate. If your congregation is attending a circuit assembly the week of March 5, 2018, this part may be scheduled for a future local needs part.

Thank you for caring for these matters. We hope that this new provision will provide an additional opportunity for publishers in your congregation to make their local donations.

Your brothers,

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Yay, there is not an actual plate to pass, so we're all good and different then all those other churches we talk crap about. 

Why did there need to be a special announcement about donations? online specific to the .org. If you have to filter the donations from NY then back to the local, you're going to have to pay for it to get back to the local, by then there isn't much left so might as well just keep it in NY right? 

Oh and another thing, no paid clergy? Are the gb on the payroll? 

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4 hours ago, AllenSmith said:

Too bad, the Watchtower doesn’t have the expense of the majority of other religions that have the same per volume of followers, by paying hourly wages to their employees, and clergy salaries. The Salvation Army is generous when giving their top brass homes. They also, don’t have the luxury of purchasing airplanes, and 6 million dollar mansions. The Good thing, The Watchtower does recycle its money wherever possible. Those donations are stretched to the max. A luxury, it doesn’t have like the Vatican, with its purchases. As for lawsuits? that’s what the underwriter insurance is, for. You do well to learn, what you are criticizing the Watchtower, by sneaking in the word Pedophilia, as though The Watchtower is the only one plagued with man’s imperfection, and you don’t give the equal amount of criticism to OTHER religions, in this FORUM or ANY other FORUM, that you dare NOT ENTER.  ONCE AGAIN, at what point, did ANY OF YOU, believe the Watchtower, STATED, once you became a witness, your, ORIGINAL SIN would be removed?

 

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The watchtower also doesn't do any charity like those other organiztions do. How you guys get tax exempt status is crazy, you guys are just like scientology, how they get tax exempt status is crazy....must be satan is behind your organization instead of God.

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We have gone a LOOOong way since we were simple Bible Students seeking the approval of Jehovah God and his Christ.

lyrics to Mercedes Benz / Janis Joplin

Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?

Oh Lord, won't you buy me a color TV ?
Dialing For Dollars is trying to find me.
I wait for delivery each day until three,
So oh Lord, won't you buy me a color TV ?

Oh Lord, won't you buy me a night on the town ?
I'm counting on you, Lord, please don't let me down.
Prove that you love me and buy the next round,
Oh Lord, won't you buy me a night on the town ?

Everybody!
Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends,
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?


 

 

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7 hours ago, AllenSmith said:

That would depend on how narrow-minded you are with the word charity? Then, you will understand, what you are saying, Jesus was NOT a charitable man.

 

Just because, there are religions that give out money to look good, is not in itself a good contribution to Christian Life. Matthew 6:1-4

 

But, you are correct. The Watchtower doesnÂ’t force people to divorce, because the spouse is an unbeliever, or has become disconnected. Maybe you should see the Leeann Remy documentary to understand Scientology before you use them as an example. A good example is the affairs of Tom Cruise.

 

But, keep trying, you opposers are 0-1000 and counting! ¬¬

 

Thank you for showing a perfect example of how detached from reality you jw's are.  Also how you attempt to deflect the conversation to something else...what the heck does forcing people to divorce have to do with the subject? You born in jw's have no clue how religious charities work, you do realize there is more research outside of the watchtower publications don't you?

 

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When I propose mindless fluff, I do not mind,  AllenSmith, because I have YOUR mind,  in mind.

By the way .... you just did EXACTLY what Matthew9969 accused you of.

ZING!

17 hours ago, AllenSmith said:
21 hours ago, Matthew9969 said:

Thank you for showing a perfect example of how detached from reality you jw's are.  Also how you attempt to deflect the conversation to something else...what the heck does forcing people to divorce have to do with the subject? You born in jw's have no clue how religious charities work, you do realize there is more research outside of the watchtower publications don't you?

Is it any different from the mindless fluff, you, JTR, and others offer as tangible proof?

 

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It makes sense to me that machines would be provided because so many people typically don't carry cash.  They (I) tend to use my cards for record keeping...rewards :)  and ect.  

       Many people can very real dense about contributing and I see no harm in a word being put out to chip in for expenses.  

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