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May 15, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Regular Pioneers

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May 15, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Regular Pioneers

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new jw term: "Infirm Regular Pioneer"

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...This arrangement is not a provision to allow an individual to care for sick relatives, do added secular work, and so forth. Those who first enter the pioneer service when they are 60 or 70 years old do not come under this arrangement simply because of their age. There is no need to give consideration to allowing an older pioneer who develops health problems to serve as an infirm regular pioneer if he is willing to transfer to the publisher ranks.

PIONEER: from Old French peonier foot soldier, from peon foot soldier. - Merriam Webster Online Dictionary.

 

 

Helping people in need is one of the cornerstones and most honorable pursuits in Christianity. It takes a spiritual person to voluntarily look after others who are incapable of taking care of themselves. But in the Watchtower world it isn't permitted if you want to remain a pioneer - only time spent preaching the Watchtower message counts, and is the main marker of spirituality.

Looking at this from a distance now, it is clear just how perverted this is....

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