What does not passing the collection plate really mean anyway?

[Witness]

8 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Well - I think that's a pretty harsh assessment. 

Look, what you appear to want me to weigh in on is a family feud. You claim to be one of the anointed and you are mad that the GB anointed are not the anointed ones I should be listening to - they are the anointed from the wrong side of the tracks.

I am not of the anointed. Therefore, if we stick with the model I think we both agree with, someone is going to be delivering spiritual food for me. If I have to choose, they win hands down, lady, not you.

Yes, I was harsh, and I apologize; I should have verbally softened what my gut feels.  Yet, in a rather crude way, you’ve just described Armageddon.   It has nothing to do with being “mad”, but everything to do with taking our stand for God’s Word in Christ – or for man’s word.  The “kings of the earth” are the anointed ones (Rev 1:5) who battle, according to the spirit they submit themselves to. 2 Cor 11:4

 The thousand years are over, Satan has been let loose and deceives, (2 Thess 2:1-12 – “deceives, “delusion”; Rev 13:14 –“deceives; 20:8 – “deceive”)… the anointed who have been “gathered” and face “deceitful spirits”. Rev 16:13,14,16  Those that reject his delusion and turn totally to Christ,(Eph 5:14) ‘feud’ with those who continue to feed all, the lie.  Christ’s truthful messengers expose the lie, Satan’s messengers fuel the lie.  If this battle was to take place in Satan’s world using Satan’s ruling “kings”, what sort of ‘deceit’ would he use against the anointed ones? Looking at 2 Thess 2 and its focus on a “delusion”, how can any earthly ruler coerce a people who are already politically neutral?  And who would be his puppets, Trump? Kim Jong Un?  Putin?   It’s pretty obvious what page they are on, one with no written knowledge of who the anointed ones are.

The battle is fought in the “spirit”realm,(Eph 6:12), not physically, and you are witnessing it now. Rev 12:7; 17:14; 19:11,14; Heb 12:22,23; Luke 10:20

2 Thess 2:9-12 tells us that this “angel of light” and his “ministers” convince God’s people to love the lie – counterfeit “truth”.  Jesus, who rides the “white horse” and is called “Faithful and True”, exposes the “man of lawlessness with the “breath” of his mouth through his faithful anointed “army”.  The “man of lawlessness”/elder body/organization/Wild Beast, that has rule over the anointed ones, is Satan’s delusion/operation of error/Gog and Magog. 

And it is being exposed. 

Yes, you are free to make whatever choice you want, but the message still must be received, because it concerns the lives of every JW.  Rev 1:1;11:3; 18:4-8; 14:6-16; Isa 10:19-23

 

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

This is Sunday, September 24, 2017 ... and I thought today's DILBERT

cartoon might be good grist for meditation and contemplation.

[Shiwiii]

On 9/23/2017 at 4:49 PM, Gone Fishing said:

The letter is not addressed to publishers.

Why does that even matter? Its still the facts. So what you are telling me is you like being left in the dark about what really goes on, and would rather believe the wt does not ask for money, "like the rest do", when in fact they do. 

 

On 9/23/2017 at 4:49 PM, Gone Fishing said:

Jehovah's true worshippers always have to be asked to stop giving don't they?

I think you made this idea up to help your cause. 

 

On 9/23/2017 at 4:49 PM, Gone Fishing said:

That's good......"don't let your right hand know"........etc

you are truly grasping here. You know this doesn't apply. The context of that set of scriptures have nothing to do with what you propose. 

[Srecko Sostar]

On 9/22/2017 at 04:39, Anna said:

You have very unrealistic perceptions. This is not the 1st Century.

Dear Anna. Than what is the purpose of Great title, calling (2015 Convention) like this: "Imitate Jesus"??

But you said well, this is not 1st Century :)) 

[Srecko Sostar]

Once a man tastes well-being and wealth, he does not want to lose it.

He will do everything to keep status and position.

And he will do that In the name of .... in the name of anything and everything.

[Evacuated]

3 hours ago, Shiwiii said:

Why does that even matter?

Well why indeed? Unless other people's mail is your turn on of course.

 

3 hours ago, Shiwiii said:

I think you made this idea up to help your cause. 

Don't they?

 

3 hours ago, Shiwiii said:

you are truly grasping here

Oh! Clever pun!

[Shiwiii]

2 minutes ago, Gone Fishing said:

Well why indeed? Unless other people's mail is your turn on of course.

It has nothing to do with me getting excited about a letter, it has more to do with pulling the curtain back and exposing the great Oz for who they really are. Its more like helping others to see that the emperor has no clothes. 

3 minutes ago, Gone Fishing said:

Oh! Clever pun!

lol, not intended, but yeah I guess it was.

[Evacuated]

1 hour ago, Shiwiii said:

pulling the curtain back

Yesterday's papers I'm afraid.

[Shiwiii]

2 minutes ago, Gone Fishing said:

Yesterday's papers I'm afraid.

So then why do jws still insist that the wt does not ask for money?

Why then does the WT say they do not ask for money? 

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

..... human capacity to believe two or more entirely different and contradictory things at the same time ... unfortunately, is what defines us as being human.

AGENDAS supply the focus ... not searching for TRUTH.

[Evacuated]

2 hours ago, Shiwiii said:

WT say they do not ask for money

beg or petition. asking no problem

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

Can anybody lend me, or give me about $265,000 ?

... I want to buy a used bus to haul concrete in

..... just ASKING!

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