Re-posting this with additions, on the identity of the Man of Lawlessness. I can’t seem to find my previous post that was made under the past label “Controversial” a long while back.
Imagine a large room, where genuine anointed ones from the organization have gathered together. I say “genuine” because it is becoming a discreet trend for many to partake during the memorial, who are not anointed. In my mind, I see this as another attempt by Satan to seduce individuals into thinking that all are part of the anointed Body of Christ, under the New Covenant; and which is another step, in concealing who are the “holy ones”.
Imagine that these anointed ones in the room are robed in the holy garments that clearly identify them in like manner as the early holy priesthood, awaiting sanctification to serve in God’s Temple. Exod 28:39-43; 39:22-31; 1 Cor 6:11; 2 Cor 7:1; Heb 8:5
From a door located on one side of this large room, another group arrives; men who are not wearing the holy priestly garb. They are not “circumcised” priests, but are “Gentiles” that have unofficially entered the courts of God’s Temple. Each man approaches and stands before an anointed priest, removes their holy garments, and dons the stolen robes, masking the true intentions of the heart. Rom 2:28,29; 9:6; Heb 8:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Joel 2:1-2; Rev.9:3-10; Matt.24:21; Luke21:20,24; Rev.13:10,7
They tell the anointed ones to exit by the other door; which they do, with no questions asked. The result obliterates any “daily sacrifice” that only the authentic priests are able, and are obligated, to perform. With the new fraudulent priesthood come new “sacrifices of praise” that support - not God - but an idol. 1 Chron 23:30-32; 2 Chron 20:11,12; Ezek 8:6; 2 Cor 11:20; Matt 24:15; 1 Pet 2:5; Rom 12:1; Heb 13:15; Rev 2:20
These “uncircumcised” “Gentiles” have been given free access by powerful, rebellious traitors against Christ, to enter God’s Temple…and defile it. No longer does God hear the praises from his holy ones, and no longer can His “living stones” be called, Holy. God’s genuine priesthood has been “defrocked” and a false priesthood now demands their obedience. Ezek 5:11; 1 Cor 3:17; Luke 16:3; Ezek 44:6-8; Rev 13:11,12,15; Ps 79:1
In reality, we do not see the anointed priesthood wearing holy garments. Within the Watchtower, we cannot distinguish how they are set apart for a special work under the New Covenant. Mark 14:22-24 We may only notice them partaking of emblems at the memorial each year; but please, JWs, picture them as each one being part of God’s Temple, and a “living” Temple “stone”. John 2:19-21;1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17 Should these stones be replaced with those ‘carved’ by men? Deut 27:5-8; Exod 20:25; Matt 16:18
Because it takes spiritual discernment to see this, the Watchtower relies on their ability to cover over these spiritual insights of scripture; and by doing so, have successfully defrocked God’s priesthood, replacing them with “uncircumcised” “Gentiles” – the Body of Elders. Ezek 44:23,24; Mal 2:7-9 The "sacrifices of praise" by this false priesthood do not ascend to God, since those have been abolished. They are praises supporting the Watchtower Idol - "Jehovah's organization". Rev 13:4,7,8
Watchtower 02/8/1 “REPRESENTING the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not.” “Rather than CHALLENGE their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!”
To enforce this blasphemous authorization of replacing God’s Temple priests, the article boldly states:
“Jehovah’s spirit is upon them; they have his approval.”
Is this true? God’s Word verifies that it has never been acceptable for his temple priesthood to be replaced. 2 Chron 23:6;13:9; Ezek 44:6-9
Matthew 24:15 – “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ (the “disgusting thing”) spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand)”
How can we relate this scripture to the elder body having authority over the anointed priesthood in the organization? Rev 11:1,2, shows “Gentiles” overtaking the sanctuary/"holy place" of God, and robbing the anointed priesthood of their ‘holy garments’; thus desolating this spiritual sanctuary.
Also, Daniel reveals the intentions of Watchtower’s leaders to destroy God’s “sanctuary”:
“He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of His sanctuary was cast down. 12 Because of transgression, an army was given over to the horn to oppose the daily sacrifices; and he cast truth down to the ground. He did all this and prospered. “ Dan 8:11,12
What do the “daily sacrifices” include? They are the expressions of truth each priest must speak and teach, but the anointed have allowed “Gentiles” to absorb these priestly duties; becoming unfaithful to their Master, Christ. Deut 11:18; John 14:16,17;15:5,16 These corrupters of truth are teaching what is “marked” by a false prophet, who disseminate untruths – defiled “sacrifices” praising an organizational idol, which are rejected by God. Jer 9:2-8; 7:28 The authentic priesthood is obligated to dispense this regulated spiritual food, or face expulsion. Mal 2:7-9; Rev 13:15,16
In Pearl Doxsey’s article, “Teach the Distinction”, she speaks of the duties God’s priesthood are to perform under their High Priest, Jesus Christ:
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...they also call the unclean, sacred; and the sanctified, they pollute and destroy...including YHWH's own Temple ( Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ).
In the time of the end, both failures merge; because it is the lost boundary between sacred priest ( Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Titus2:14; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) and Gentile ( Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ), that allows the entrance of the counterfeit Gentile priesthood of elders into the sanctuary to serve as priests.
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The last powerful and “unusual” force of Daniel’s image expresses two contrasting elements – one of clay and one of iron, found together. The entirety of this image describes powers that have affected God’s people during their individual historic reigns, but please consider Pearl’s comment on the last power and fourth beast that the anointed ones face today in the Watchtower organization.
From the article, “Iron and Clay” –
“The feet of the image shows that the reign over the anointed in the time of the end, is dual.
Not only is the metallic element still there (as it was in the previous powers- All "Gentiles"-not God's people) (Gentiles-Iron); for the first time, the statue contains "clay" of the earth..."the offspring of MANKIND". (Dan.2:41-43)
This clay represents those who belong to the "Potter" (Isa.29:16; 45:9; Jer.18:6; Rom.9:21), and they SHOULD be molded by Him alone. But instead, they mold themselves to the Iron (Gentiles) by conforming themselves to the iron, allowing the iron to mold them, rather than God.
Unknowingly, these "clay" actually conform to Satan's will, becoming a part of Satan's dominion over God's people (Rev.9:1; 17:12). In a short time, that clay hardens to this form (as baked clay), and is no longer useful to its original owner. It is now suited only for destruction as an extension of Satan's "body".
This has come to pass, in that the anointed today are dominated within the Organization, not only by spiritual "Gentiles" alone; but by their own brothers who have joined in with the Gentiles to dominate their brothers in Christ....the wicked steward with "confirmed drunkards" from outside the master's household (Matt.24:45,48-51).
When Christ, through the final capstone, "smashes" the feet of the image of Daniel (Dan.2:34,45; Heb.11:10; Eze.3:8,9; Isa.50:7; 45:17; 49:8; 54:4; Micah.1:2); it is not smashing all of Satan's world, but only the Image Satan has used to dominate God's people, which is NOT Satan's entire world-wide dominion.
It is well known that the Image of Daniel does not contain all the political identities which have ever existed in Satan's world; But only ones which have dominated God's chosen people.”
An early Watchtower magazine compares JWs with the Nethinim and Gibeonites who have united together to support the anointed remnant.
WT 63/7/1 p. 416: The antitypical Nethinim and Gibeonites have associated with the priestly remnant in worshiping Jehovah alone as God, willingly becoming temple assistants in support of the remnant of “living stones” of the spiritual temple.
All sounds well and good by this early admittance to the anointed as “living stones” of God’s Temple, but it is rarely made today, if at all; since all focus is now on the Watchtower organizational idol, and no longer on God’s Temple and its development. Rev 13:1,5,6; 16:13,14 To let you know, the Nethinim, or “temple servants” were part of the listed group of returning with Israel, it’s priests and Levites, from captivity in Babylon during the time of King Cyrus. Ezra 2:43;8:20; Nehemiah 7:7 The Gibeonites were pressed into service after deceiving Joshua to make a covenant with Israel, long before this time period. Josh 9:3-23 Their name is also recorded as individuals helping in the temple building process. Neh 3:7
However, after King Cyrus issued the decree that captive Israel was to return home from Babylon, there was opposition that the people faced once the new temple foundation had been laid. A resettled people, enemies with the intention of obstructing the completion of the temple, deceitfully presented their help in the building process.
When the enemies of Judah and Benjamin heard that the returned exiles were building a temple for the Lord, the God of Israel, 2 they approached Zerubbabel and the family heads and said to them, “Let us build with you, for we also worship your God and have been sacrificing to him since the time King Esar-haddon of Assyria brought us here.” Ezra 4:1,2
The Samaritans had taken up residence in the land when God’s people entered captivity, and were the prime threat in rebuilding the temple in Ezra’s day. From the northern tribes after the split of Israel, they claimed to be descendants of Ephraim and Manasseh; even of the Levite tribe; yet, at that time period, they were bitter enemies of the southern Kingdom of Judah.
3 But Zerubbabel, Jeshua, and the other heads of Israel’s families answered them, “You may have no part with us in building a house for our God, since we alone will build it for the Lord, the God of Israel, as King Cyrus, the king of Persia has commanded us.” 4 Then the people who were already in the landdiscouraged the people of Judah and made them afraid to build. 5 They also bribed officials to act against them to frustrate their plans throughout the reign of King Cyrus of Persia and until the reign of King Darius of Persia. Ezra 4:3-5
This event is mirrored in the Watchtower by enemies of Christ who resist any further “construction” on God’s Temple. Rev 9:3-7; 13:7 The priesthood in covenant with God has allowed modern day “Samaritans” from the “north” to persuade them with similar tactics as happened in Ezra, Nehemiah and Haggai’s day; employing confusion, bribery, threats and lies to keep these “stones” from their restoration into God’s Temple. (Ezek 38:14-16; Dan 11:14-16)
The persuasion is so convincing that the anointed willingly hand over their royal “robes”, their identity as God’s priests, to the Man of Lawlessness, the elder body.
“Zion stretches out her hands;
there is no one to comfort her.
The Lord has issued a decree against Jacob
that his neighbors should be his adversaries.
Jerusalem has become
something impure among them.” Lam 2:17
Please, JWs, educate yourselves of the vital importance of this priesthood dominated by the fourth Beast of Daniel’s visions. Dan 7:7 Not only are the anointed ones affected by such a crushing duel power, but also are all who reside in the organization. We are to FLEE AWAY from this abomination and come to the true Mountain and restoration of Daughter Zion, that will destroy the last power to afflict God’s people. Matt 24:16; Joel 2:20,25-27
Pearl Doxsey, 4womaninthewilderness blogspot
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By The Librarian
A proclamation, declaring the start of war in Europe, is posted up in Whitehall, in London in 1914. Getty Images
I read a quote by someone who had written about the Edomites and their ‘perpetual hatred’ toward the nation of Israel, when Edom assisted Nebuchadnezzar to drag Israel away to Babylon. Ezek 35:5-9
“To afflict the afflicted is cruel. This is scarcely of man, bad as he is. He must be possessed by the malignant spirit of the devil, when he wounds the wounded, insults over the miseries of the afflicted, and seeks opportunities to add affliction to those who are already under the rod of God.”
It brought my thoughts to God’s present spiritual nation “Israel” under the rule of a rebellious spiritual “Edom”, the “Gentile” Man of Lawlessness/Elder Body. 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2
Yet, how are the anointed ones under the rod of God?
Although Jesus Christ warned his servants of the potential danger, God has allowed His people under covenant, to be enamored by “fruit” presented by false “christs”. Matt 24:23-25 These fallen anointed ones had previously taken the first bite of Satan’s offer of “knowing good and bad”, and gaining potential to weave truth with lies. Gen 3:5; 2 Pet 3:17 Under Satan’s influence, they have paved the way to destruction, through their own acceptance of his gift, bestowing on them power and authority over God’s anointed people. Matt 4:8,9; 2 Cor 11:2,3; Isa 28:15; Rev 17:5; 13:11
As the last military ruse devised by Satan, a worldly arrangement is utilized to sift and ultimately “harvest” each heart. These leaders are the puppets he needed to captivate and inflict harm on God’s anointed ones, under the false pretense labeled “the truth”. 1 John 5:19; Matt 24:4,8,11; 2 Cor 11:3; Matt.13:26,30,38-41
By also accepting this clever offering of poisonous “fruit”, God’s people have chosen an idol to lead and protect them, instead of relying fully on God alone. Matt 7:15-20; Col 2:8; Rev 8:10,11
God allows this sifting to occur, which reveals our choice in whom we choose to serve – either Him, with our entire mind, heart and soul; or Satan and his seemingly illustrious…lies. Mark 12:30; John 8:44 Jesus suffered under similar testing by Satan. Luke 22:31;4:5-7; James 5:10-11; 1 Pet 2:21 Satan uses a strong (of “superhuman power”) corrupt delusion that overcomes the anointed and their companions in the time of the end. 2 Thess 2:9; Rev 13:1,2,4
Please COMPARE the two following quotes from the Watchtower:
"Still, as a people, “the chosen ones” and their loyal companions will physically survive the end of apostate Christendom by taking REFUGE in Jehovah AND his…
… MOUNTAINLIKE ORGANIZATION." Wt. 11/1/15 pp. 3-7
Can an organization that proclaims to be one's spiritual REFUGE be an effective sifting trap for Satan to employ? Amos 3:5;Ps 64:5,6
Wt. 1974/12/1 pp. 728-734 – “The symbolic “TRAP” that Satan the Devil has set for those who trust in Jehovah God as their “REFUGE” and “STRONGHOLD”, is the EARTHLY ORGANIZATION that is OPPOSED to God’s organization, namely, Satan’s VISIBLE ORGANIZATION.”
This rather confusing quote is implying that Satan’s earthly, worldly, and visible organization, opposes God’s true “organization”. Satan’s organization “traps” the unsuspecting, who believe they are putting their complete trust in God as their REFUGE, yet are duped by Satan’s powerful delusion.
What is this quote signifying to YOU, JWs?
The WT “mountainlike organization” is visibly distinct; and completely immersed in the operations of the earthy realm. It cannot exist without the world’s help, thus it is far from a “heavenly” organization, which would be spirit-driven by God. 1 John 2:14,15; Heb 12:22; 2 Pet 1:18 Its leaders rely fully on how they can implement not only your money, but all political and industrial aspects in this earthly realm. 1 John 5:19
They are earthly men, without the knowledge of “heavenly” things. John 3:12; 8:23; 1 Cor 2:12-14; James 3:15; Col 3:1,2; Heb.11:1,2,8,10,16
In the last quote, Satan knows what he’s implying, but do you? Should there be any devoted attachment to ANY earthly entity, that gives equal footing to, even outranking, our devotion to God and His Son? Isa 46:5 Can you detect the trap that Satan has so deviously set, yet has cleverly revealed in the Wt. quote? 1 Pet 5:8; Rev 12:4,13,15,17
But notice what your earthly rulers ALSO tell you:
Km 8/82 - “Jehovah God rightly expects each of us to maintain a DEVOTED ATTACHMENT to him AND HIS VISIBLE EARTHLY ORGANIZATION.”
Rom 1:25 – “They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.”
What sort of “created things”? Strong’s defines the word by saying, “in Greek writings the act of founding, establishing, building, etc.”…….
……THE WATCHTOWER ORGANIZATION ***** “JEHOVAH’S MOUNTAINLIKE, VISIBLE, EARTHLY ORGANIZATION”.
It is important to learn the details of YHVH’s authentic “organization” – the anointed Body of Christ; the Temple of God and His dwelling place. 1 Cor 3:16,17 Please, endeavor to learn truth from God’s Word.
For this idolatrous choice, spiritual “Israel” has fallen under the rule of “Babylon the Great”, the “mother” covenant of death. Isa 28:15 Spiritual “Edom” has aided the trampling of God’s Temple by imposing their given authority to ‘set themselves up’ in the Temple of God for the purpose of conquering the holy ones, and bringing the power of the “holy ones” to nothing. Obadiah 1:3,4,10; Ps 37:7; Dan 12:7; 2 Thess 2:3,4; 1 Cor 3:16,17
The area of Mount Seir, located south of the Dead Sea, commonly refers to the Edomite nation. When Esau moved into that area, his family mingled and intermarried with the Horite people. Eventually, they fell under the rule of Esau’s descendants and were displaced by Edom.
As I glanced at the various root meanings of the name “Seir”, I found it widely describes a sinister place. Here are some of its descriptive connotations:
“to sweep or whirl away”, “storm”, “horror”, “horrid”, “a horrible thing”, “disgusting”, “demon, satyr”, “to shudder in the face of something”, “to tear in two, split, divide or tear down”, “measure, calculate”, and “a means of controlled access to a walled city”.
I think we get the picture, that through the graphic meaning of the name, we can transcend its description to the people that inhabited Mount Seir – a vicious, evil nation whose goal was to wipe out Israel. It shows me also, the similarities between Mount Seir and the “mountainlike organization” that Satan uses today to control access to the true Temple priesthood of God in the anointed ones, and to tear down spiritual “Israel”.
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. For you don’t go in, and you don’t allow those entering to go in.” Matt 23:13
It is the horrifying “disgusting thing” that Jesus warned us about, and what we are to flee from, according to Matt 24:15,16; and the fourth Beast from Daniel’s visions that he describes as:
“frightening and dreadful, and incredibly strong, with large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed, and it trampled with its feet whatever was left. It was different from all the beasts before it, and it had ten horns.” Dan 7:7
“The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.
It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.” Rev 13:1,7
Through its presence, the heart’s desire of each anointed one is calculated and “measured” either acceptable for life, or death. Zech 5:1-11; Amos 7:7-9; Rev 11:1,2; Rev 13:16,17
Dan.7:25 - "He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The HOLY PEOPLE WILL BE DELIVERED into his hands for a time, times and half a time."
Dan.11:31 - ""His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will SET UP the abomination that causes desolation."
2 Thess 2:4 – “He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he SETS HIMSELF UP IN GOD’S TEMPLE, proclaiming himself to be God.”
Mark13:14 - "When you see 'the abomination that causes desolation' STANDING WHERE IT DOES NOT BELONG--let the reader understand--then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains."
JWs, can you understand why God allows “Edom” to wound, afflict and “trample” spiritual “Israel”?
"'The decision is announced by messengers, the holy ones declare the verdict, SO THAT THE LIVING MAY KNOW THAT THE MOST HIGH IS SOVEREIGN OVER ALL THE KINGDOMS ON EARTH and gives them to anyone he wishes and sets over them the lowliest of people.' Dan 4:17
Behind its pristine-looking façade, the ominous “mountainlike organization” has raised itself above God’s authentic Mount Zion, and above God Himself, in the mind of JWs. Satan has gradually transformed the position of each anointed one as powerless, by placing doubts before JWs of their ability to teach the sheep. Mal 2:7 The Wt. magazines have made cutting remarks about them; they must not speak of their anointing, they may suffer mental problems, they are not to gather together as an anointed group. They are to be scrutinized if claiming to be anointed. Successfully, over time, the Watchtower has ‘set up’ its own false priesthood/elder body to rule, plundering and trampling God’s appointed Temple priesthood. Sadly, the majority swallow down such poisonous fruit. 2 Cor 11:20
Jesus will need to discipline his priests at his return, for apathetically accepting a head over them (Rev.3:16), other than he
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They will have to be "refined" by fire (Zech.13:9; Isa.48:10; 1Pet.4:1; Eze.16:39; Rev.3:17-18; Hosea 12:6-8). Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
As Jesus says at Rev.3:19 ...
"Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent."
The discipline Christ brings when he returns, is not easy to perceive, nor pleasant to accept (Heb.12:5-13).
In fact, Christ must discipline them with "a rod of iron"
(Micah 6:9; Prov.23:13-14; Rev.2:27; Hosea 6:5; Jer.23:29; 5:14; Rev.11:5; 2Pet.3:7,10).
"Iron" is the precise identity that is trampling them, in the time of the end (Dan.2:40,34,44).
God allows the very Idol they are serving, to discipline, beat, and trample them.
That is, the Great Tribulation (Isa.5:5-6; Rev.11:6; Zech.13:9; Isa.48:10-11; 6:11-13 (Rev.11:13); Dan.12:6-7) Pearl Doxsey – “Christ’s Return – When?”
This “mountainlike organization” that rebels against the “Mountains of Israel”, the authentic Zion, will have the same outcome as wicked Mount Seir:
Ezek 35:12-15 - Then you will know that I the Lord have heard all the contemptible things you have said against the mountains of Israel. You said, “They have been laid waste and have been given over to us to devour.” 13 You boasted against me and spoke against me without restraint, and I heard it. 14 This is what the Sovereign Lord says: While the whole earth rejoices, I will make you desolate. 15 Because you rejoiced when the inheritance of Israel became desolate, that is how I will treat you. You will be desolate, Mount Seir, you and all of Edom. Then they will know that I am YHVH.’” Ezek 35:12-15
“What are you, mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’” Zech 4:7
The way that God and Christ discipline and refine the repentant, is to allow the Master they have chosen, to mistreat them. Then the remnant, will return to their husbandly owner
(Jer.2:2-5,11-14,17,26; Hosea 13:6; 2:7-9,16-17,19-20; Isa.26:16-21; 40:2-3; Dan.12:7; Rev.6:11; Ps.66:12; Luke12:37; Isa.25:6; John16:13,8). Pearl Doxsey
Please, consider reading the following from Ezekiel chapter 36:
“Son of man, prophesy to the mountains of Israel and say, ‘Mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord. 2 This is what the Lord God says: Because the enemy has said about you, “Aha! The ancient heights have become our possession,”’ 3 therefore, prophesy and say: ‘This is what the Lord God says: Because they have made you DESOLATE and have TRAMPLED you from every side, so that you became a possession for the rest of the nations and an object of PEOPLE’S GOSSIP AND SLANDER, 4 therefore, mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord God. This is what the Lord God says to the mountains and hills, to the ravines and valleys, to the desolate ruins and abandoned cities, which have become PLUNDER and a MOCKERY to the rest of the nations all around.
5 “‘This is what the Lord God says: Certainly in my burning zeal I speak against the rest of the nations and all of Edom, who took my land as their own possession with wholehearted rejoicing and utter contempt so that its pastureland became plunder.
6 Therefore, prophesy concerning the land of Israel and say to the mountains and hills, to the ravines and valleys: This is what the Lord God says: Look, I speak in my burning zeal because you have endured the insults of the nations. 7 Therefore, this is what the Lord God says: I swear that the nations all around you will endure their own insults.
“‘You, mountains of Israel, will produce your branches and bear your fruit for my people Israel, since their arrival is near. 9 Look! I am on your side; I will turn toward you, and you will be tilled and sown. 10 I will fill you with people, with the whole house of Israel in its entirety.
“Therefore say to the Israelites, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: It is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF MY HOLY NAME, WHICH YOU HAVE PROFANED AMONG THE NATIONS where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, WHEN I AM PROVED HOLY THROUGH YOU BEFORE THEIR EYES.
24 “‘For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow My decrees and be careful to keep My laws. 28 Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be My people, and I will be your God."
Pearl Doxsey, 4 womaninthewilderness blogspot
“Trample – How Does it Happen?”
“YHVH’s Genuine Mountain”
“Where is the Temple/Jerusalem?”
In 1889, the WT said " we present PROOFS that the setting up of the kingdom of God has already? begun...and that 'the battle of the great day of God almighty' (Revelation16:14),which will end in AD1914 with the complete overthrow of the earth's present rulership, is already commenced.".
So, the WT presented "proofs"?
These "proofs" were wrong, so what credibility do they have to "proclaim" anything?
We are all familiar with the story of Esau and Jacob. Esau, during a moment of hunger, impetuously sold his birthright for a bowl of stew. In that one moment, we see the inclination of Esau’s mind on the earthly, fleshly needs overpowering his faith and sustenance in God. His act of eating the bread and stew showed that Esau “despised” his birthright, or viewed it as worthless, not only when filling his stomach, but indicating faith was never fully directed toward God. Gen 25:33,34
However, when it was time for Isaac to bestow blessings on his sons, Esau still expected to receive the birthright of the older son. Gen 27:36 Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
I have a young 7-year old grandson that can be quite headstrong. If he refuses to complete a task asked jointly of both grandsons, it is held out to him that he will lose any reward that follows. When the task is accomplished, and the reward offered to the other grandson, the seven-year-old immediately balks and states the verdict is “not fair”, many times through tears shed over his loss of reward. When someone in a family shows an unreasonable stubborn streak, it is not uncommon to begin searching through the characteristics of older family members and blame it on that “gene”.
The nation of Edom was Esau’s progeny. Edom harbored the animosity “gene” against Israel throughout Bible history. Jacob’s name was changed to Israel, letting us see that the Bible’s later references to “Jacob”, refers to the nation of Israel. Gen 36:1; 27:41 Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
The struggle between Jacob and Esau, which began in the womb, continued through their descendants. Even though Jacob was the younger of the two, notice the prophetic outcome of these twins, in the words of Gen.25:21-23:
Isaac prayed to the Lord on behalf of his wife, because she was childless. The Lord answered his prayer, and his wife Rebekah became pregnant. 22 The babies jostled each other within her, and she said, “Why is this happening to me?” So she went to inquire of the Lord.
23 The Lord said to her,
“Two nations are in your womb,
and two peoples from within you will be separated;
one people will be stronger than the other,
and the older will serve the younger.”
What was Esau’s blessing?
38 Esau said to his father, “Do you have only one blessing, my father? Bless me too, my father!” And Esau wept loudly.
39 His father Isaac answered him,
Look, your dwelling place will be
away from the richness of the land,
away from the dew of the sky above.
40 You will live by your sword,
and you will serve your brother.
But when you rebel,
you will break his yoke from your neck. Gen 27:38-40.
Edom (meaning red) was both a rugged, mountainous region and the location of Mount Seir, as well as desert and red sandstone cliffs where available pasture and land for farming practices was scarce. They imposed taxation on an ancient caravan route, as well as using sea trade routes as a source of livelihood.
Jacob, as “Israel”, received both the riches of the earth and the spiritual wealth from God, whenever and as long as, they obeyed His direction. Gen 27:28,29
“Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine. 6 And you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words which you shall speak to the children of Israel.” Exod 19:5,6 (see Deut chapter 28)
Although Esau and Jacob met amicably when Jacob was returning to Canaan with Rachel and Leah (Gen 33:1-4), several moments in Biblical history show us Edom’s bitter animosity toward Israel. Edom’s king denied Israel passage through their country in Num 20:14-21; 21:4; Deut 2:4-6. However, at that time, God set the standard that Israel was not to hate or despise their “brother”. Deut 23:7; Deut 2:2-6 Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
Edom came against Israel during King Saul’s reign and was defeated. 1 Sam 14:47 King David “struck down eighteen thousand Edomites in “Salt Valley”, making the survivors subject to David’s rule. 2 Sam 8:13,14 The revolts continued down to the time of Nebuchadnezzar. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
As a result of conflict forcing the Edomites out of their own land, (in Greek, “Idumaea”) they fled into Judah close to the time period when Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar, plundered Jerusalem and destroyed its temple. Jer 25:3-12 Judah had gravely strayed from obeying God’s voice and commandments and was suffering the consequences. The Edomites assisted Babylon’s attack on God’s people, as well as overtaking cities and land once the Judeans were sent into exile in Babylon. Here, we find a fulfillment of Isaac’s words: “But when you rebel, you will break his yoke from your neck”. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
Judah’s bitter words during exile, pleading for vengeance against Edom are found in Psalm 137, with verse 7 reading:
Remember, Lord, what the Edomites said
that day at Jerusalem:
“Destroy it! Destroy it
down to its foundations!”
Three prophetic books speak of this event, condemning Edom and promising its destruction: Isa 34:5-8; Jer 49:7-22; Obad 1:10-15 Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
Another conqueror came against the Edomites, forcing them to make a choice; either leave the cities conquered or convert to Judaism. The grandfather of Herod the Great, who built the last temple in Jerusalem, was among those who converted. Eventually, the mention of the people of Edom phased out of historical records around 70 c.e.
As was the converted “Jew”, Herod the Great, many Edomites allied with Rome, even becoming Roman citizens. Others took part in the Zealot wars against Roman rule in Jerusalem. They had lost their established role as the nation of Edom or “Idumaea”, and had become “still”, unnoticed, as one of the root meanings within their name, signifies. To this day, it is not uncommon for Edomites who converted to Judaism, to be referred to as “false Jews”.
Recent archeological evidence has found what appears to be temple remains in Idumaea. Along with a few other gods, the Edomites worshiped an ancient god considered a competitor to YHWH; called, “Qaus”. With the help and derivation of other linked Hebrew words, it may refer to such descriptive terms as bow, cast out as an arrow, ‘gleamed forth’, lighting, colors, mightiness, and interestingly, even briers. Historical records by Josephus show evidence of a priesthood as well.
Today, we have a spiritual nation of God, called “Israel”. They are the priests and kings of Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; Rev 5:9,10; 7:4; 21:24 Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
Pearl Doxsey explains this nation in her article, “TWELVE TRIBES”. She describes how the “little flock’ of physical Jews and the “other sheep” of physical Gentiles combine to become one anointed flock of spiritual Israel under the New Covenant. Heb 8:7; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Rom 2:28,29; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. , Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
Take note of her words, JWs!
“ The doctrine that "other sheep" are NOT of the heavenly calling, to me, is error with an evil purpose....
to take away the distinction between what God has cleansed (circumcision of the chosen Priest's heart by spirit) and the common spiritual Gentile. This deceptive doctrine is the basis for allowing the disgusting thing to enter the holy place (the MAN OF LAWLESSNESS to raise himself up above the sons of God). ( Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. )"
A spiritual, rebellious “Edom” exists where the Man of Lawless (of “destruction, ruin”) reigns – The Watchtower organization/“Beast”. Rev 13:1 Its ruling “kings”/false prophets have traded their inheritance under the New Covenant with Christ, for fleshly power, glory and riches in this world; riches that do not last. Luke 4:7;12:32-34 Their new “birthright” or blessing is given by the one who offers such gifts, Satan the Devil. Isa 28:15; Rev 17:5; 13:11
“Make sure that no one falls short of the grace of God and that no root of bitterness springs up, causing trouble and defiling many.16 And make sure that there isn’t any sexually immoral or irreverent person like Esau, who sold his birthright in exchange for a single meal. 17 For you know that later, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, even though he sought it with tears, because he didn’t find any opportunity for repentance.” Heb 12:15-17
The governing body is not only a “root of bitterness”, (Rev 8:11) but are spiritual Harlots defiling all who buy into the belief that the idol/temple, “Jehovah’s organization” is the source of salvation. Each anointed one under its wing are the “foolish virgins” captivated and oppressed by the Harlot’s priesthood, the elder body/Beast. As long as they are accepting of the Harlot’s wares, they too fall under the “mother” covenant of death, Babylon the Great. Matt 25:8-13; Rev 13:7,17 Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
The Man of Lawlessness is this priesthood, and the false “Jews” and “briers” ruling over the true Temple dwelling of God, within the hearts of the anointed ones. 2 Thess 2:3,4; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Rev 9:1-6;11:1-3 The Body of Elders presently assists “Babylon’s” kings/false prophets in captivating spiritual “Israel” with, “blasphemies against God: TO BLASPHEME HIS NAME AND HIS DWELLING —those who dwell in heaven.” Rev 13:6 Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
This priesthood/elder body has been given the authority to judge and “kill” God’s spiritual “Israel”. (Gen 27:41) We have a repeat of Ps 137:7. The anointed living “stones” of God’s Temple are effectively facing a threatening destruction under the Man of Lawlessness. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
1 Cor 3:16,17: “Don’t you yourselves know that you are God’s temple and that the Spirit of God lives in you? IF ANYONE DESTROYS GOD’S TEMPLE, GOD WILL DESTROY HIM; for God’s temple is holy, and that is what you are.”
In the same nature as the Edomite god, Quas, the Watchtower god uses deceitful, powerful displays as if originating from the true God, YHWH.
From Pearl’s article, “FIRE FROM HEAVEN”:
"When we read that the False Prophet has the ability to "cause fire to come down from heaven" (Rev.13:11,13), do you think GOD ("heaven") is giving that false prophet power to judge others by truth and in righteousness?;
OR, do you think that Satan is empowering the "TWO-horned" false prophet (counterfeit "two witnesses") with the ability to render a false CONDEMNATION OF THE RIGHTEOUS? (Rev.11:7-10; 13:15; 6:9,10,11) Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
This "fire" comes "from heaven", because the point at which the false prophet receives this power; Satan has not yet been completely removed, and is still "waging war" with the "woman's" seed (Rev.12:3,4,8,13,17). He is not cast down (loses his heavenly authority) until this counterfeit fire is fully used against those righteous ones "killed" by it (Rev.11:7; 6:9,11; John 16:2; Mark 8:35), by which faithful deaths and testimony, he is cast down (Rev.12:10,11; 13:13,15,4)." Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
So as is clear, yes, "fire from heaven" can be falsified, when it condemns the righteous to "death" (Eze.13:19; Jer.23:17,14; Rev.11:8). This is what the false prophet is enabled to do (Rev.9:1; 13:13,15; 6:9,10,11; 11:7-10) by means of Satan's ability (Job 1:12,16; Rev.13:2; 11:7; 9:11,1) to falsely condemn the righteous, causing counterfeit, symbolic "fire from heaven". Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
JWs, the Watchtower is a hateful act of rebellion against “Israel”. All within, have fallen for this great end time deception of Satan’s. 2 Thess 2:9-12 Soon, the Man of Lawlessness will also turn on “Israel’s” Harlot/false prophet, stripping her bare and exposing her sins that even they can’t tolerate. A combined alliance of sell-out anointed “kings” and non-anointed elders will receive authority over all of unrepentant “Israel” and those with them, “for one hour.” Rev.17:7,12,13,16,17; Gen.25:30-33 Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
FLEE now! Join those of “Jacob” who have left “Babylon’s” confusion; who are repentant and eager to serve the one true God and His Son, Jesus Christ. Deut 28:20; Jer 51:6; Zech 8:22,23; Matt 24:16; Rev 18:4-8 Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
“‘This is what the Lord God says: Because Edom acted vengefully against the house of Judah and incurred grievous guilt by taking revenge on them, 13 therefore this is what the Lord God says: I will stretch out my hand against Edom and cut off both man and animal from it. I will make it a wasteland; they will fall by the sword from Teman to Dedan. 14 I will take my vengeance on Edom through my people Israel, and they will deal with Edom according to my anger and wrath. So they will know my vengeance. This is the declaration of the Lord God.” Ezek 25:12-14
“For the day of the Lord is near,
against all the nations.
As you have done, it will be done to you;
what you deserve will return on your own head.
16 As you have drunk on my holy mountain,
so all the nations will drink continually.
They will drink and gulp down
and be as though they had never been.
17 But there will be a deliverance on Mount Zion,
and it will be holy;
the house of Jacob will dispossess
those who dispossessed them.
18 Then the house of Jacob will be a blazing FIRE,
and the house of Joseph, a burning flame,
but the house of Esau will be stubble;
Jacob will set them on fire and consume Edom.
Therefore no survivor will remain
of the house of Esau,
for the Lord has spoken.” Obadiah 1:15-18
“Is not my WORD like FIRE”—this is the Lord’s declaration—“and like a hammer that pulverizes rock?” Jer 23:29
JWs, if you choose to listen to the linked chapter in Lamentation below, which is Jeremiah’s mournful dirge over Judah’s captivity, consider how you are admonished to respect the authority of, obey, and praise the elder body. At the same time, you are taught to scrutinize the validity of the anointed ones. Remember that the anointed Temple “stones”/ priests and “kings of the earth” are counseled by your governing body, and enforced by your elders, not to seek each other out, or gather together to study the Bible; as it THREATENS the unity and worship to be given to your god, the organization. Prov 6:16-19; Ezek 44:23 This is “trampling”, oppression and captivity. Rev.12:4; 9:10,19; 11:2; 13:7,10; Matt 26:52; (Gen 27:40) Your “Edom” is a spiritual desert as a result; fulfilling the promised blessing given to Esau by Isaac. Jer 14:15; Lam 5:10; Amos 8:11;Rev 18:8 Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
The inherited promise bestowed on a faithful “Israel”, cleansed of all defilement, is fulfilled when the Kingdom of God arrives. Rev 6:9-11; Isa 61:7 Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
I know your works. Look, I have placed before you an open door that no one can close because you have but little power; yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 9 Note this: I will make those from the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews and are not, but are lying—I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I have loved you. 10 Because you have kept my command to endure, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is going to come on the whole world to test those who live on the earth. 11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one takes your crown. Rev 3:8-11
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Pearl Doxsey - 4womaninthewilderness
"Who Inherit the Earth"?
"Discerning the Ten Virgins/Called, Chosen and Faithful"
By The Librarian
Austro-Hungarian and Royal Prince of Hungary and of Bohemia, and from 1889 until his death, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne. His assassination in Sarajevo precipitated Austria-Hungary's declaration of war against Serbia. This caused countries allied with Austria-Hungary (the Triple Alliance) and countries allied with Serbia (the Triple Entente Powers) to declare war on each other, starting World War I.
The bullet that killed the Archduke; sometimes referred to as "the bullet that started World War I"
Franz Ferdinand ignored warnings that Serbian terrorist group the Black Hand — still reeling from Austrian annexation in 1908 — was plotting to assassinate him during his state visit to Sarajevo.
Plus, the day of his tour was Serbia’s National Day. Sophie pleaded with him not to go.
So why did he? Death was better than humiliation, said Lebow. It was a matter of honor.
Franz Ferdinand and his wife Sophie riding in an open carriage at Sarajevo shortly before their assassination on June 28, 1914. Photo by Henry Guttmann/Getty Images
On June 28, 1914, Franz Ferdinand and Sophie were riding in the third of a seven-car convoy when a bomb bounced off their hood, exploding as the fourth car passed.
At this point, said Lebow, “any security detail worth its salt would have rushed these people out of town immediately.”
But they didn’t. Franz Ferdinand insisted that they pay a visit to an officer wounded in the bombing. On the way, the driver took a wrong turn, and happened to reverse right in front of one of the conspirators, Gavrilo Princip, who, said Lebow, was sipping a drink outside.
Pointing his pistol at the car, Princip fired two shots.
When Sophie was shot alongside Franz Ferdinand in 1914, these were his last words to her, as published in “Archduke of Sarajevo”: “Sopherl, Sopherl, don’t die. Stay alive for the children!”
And the rest, as they say, is history.
By Israeli Bar Avaddhon
PRECAUCIÓN El siguiente artÃculo renegocia uno de los "pilares" de la comprensiÃ³n del cuerpo directivo. Ya que el autor no quiere escandalizar o hacer caer ninguno, y mucho menos crear divisiones o sectas, se invita al lector a considerar cuidadosamente si desea seguir leyendo. Continuar o no continuar, por lo tanto, sÃ³lo serÃ¡ una decisiÃ³n personal. Una mejor cosa que podrÃamos hacer todos: abrir la Biblia y comparar todas las escrituras citadas y evaluar si los argumentos son lÃ³gicos y coherentes con la Palabra de Dios Â Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Â Todo lo que hemos leÃdo acerca de la profecÃa de las "setenta semanas", descrito en el libro "prestar atenciÃ³n a las profecÃas de Daniel!" (CapÃtulo 11) es digno de atenciÃ³n y muestra cÃ³mo la palabra de Dios es exacta y fiable, incluso cuando pronuncia profecÃas muy lejanas en el tiempo. Fue tambiÃ©n obvia la precisiÃ³n histÃ³rica y las numerosas escrituras que dieron peso y credibilidad a todo el asunto. Cualquier persona que se acerca a la Palabra de Dios sin ideas preconcebidas no puede dejar de ser impresionado por esta demostraciÃ³n del poder y la sabidurÃa de Dios. La explicaciÃ³n de las 70 semanas es irreprochable, pero el mismo puede decirse de otras profecÃas? Â¿QuÃ© pasa con aquellos cÃ¡lculos en que muchos de nosotros han basado las esperanzas de una vida y que se enfrentan con la crÃtica de la mayorÃa? Estamos hablando del 1914. Esta es tambiÃ©n una profecÃa de Daniel? Esto tambiÃ©n fue tratado con la misma maravillosa exactitud de las setenta semanas que acabamos de leer? Aunque puede no ser fÃ¡cil, tratamos de ser objetivos porque entender o no entender la profecÃa, como el resto de la Palabra de Dios, puede hacer una gran diferencia para nuestro futuro eterno - Juan 17: 3; 2 Tesalonicenses 1: 8 Â Â¿QuÃ© podemos decir sobre 1914? Â El libro "prestar atenciÃ³n a las profecÃas de Daniel" en las pÃ¡ginas 85 a 97 (ediciÃ²n italiana) explica en detalle el sueÃ±o de Nabucodonosor y la profecÃa de los siete tiempos afirmando que eso indica la llegada del Reino de Dios en 1914.
SerÃa rentable, por lo tanto, tomar el libro y comparar con lo que se leerÃ¡ a continuaciÃ³n.
El sueÃ±o de Nabucodonosor profetiza realmente la venida del Reino de Dios en 1914? Â Es realmente asÃ¬? Vamos a examinar lo que estÃ¡ escrito en el libro sin prejuicios. A primera vista parece que JehovÃ¡ Dios ha querido dar una lecciÃ³n de humildad a Nabucodonosor, lo que fue. Los "siete tiempos", seguramente para Ã©l, fueron siete aÃ±os y esto es confirmado por toda la historia. Si debemos leer todo esto sin prejuicios, no parece que tenemos que buscar otras explicaciones mÃ¡s o menos ocultas. Sin embargo, tomamos por vÃ¡lido el argumento que "el Ã¡rbol indica un dominio y una forma mucho mÃ¡s soberana del rey de Babilonia. Simboliza la soberanÃa universal de JehovÃ¡, el Rey del cielo, especialmente con respecto a la tierra ". Esto significa, en primer lugar, que el Reino de Dios se estÃ¡ comparando, en cierto modo, al reino de Babilonia y esto contrasta con muchos pasajes bÃblicos que describen Babilonia como el mayor enemigo del pueblo de Dios. TambiÃ©n significa que el "vigilante" (es decir, un Ã¡ngel del SeÃ±or) decide derribar el reino de Dios y esto es, por lo menos, raro. Algunos objetarÃ¡n que no hay que buscar similitudes en todos los aspectos de la profecÃa, pero tambiÃ©n decidir cual parte de la profecÃa debe tener una segunda realizaciÃ³n y cual no puede ser bastante arbitrario. BÃ¡sicamente, no tenemos escrituras que nos dicen quÃ© detalles destacar y cuÃ¡les omitir (y por cual razÃ³n) AsÃ que estÃ¡n diciendo que la profecÃa del Ã¡rbol se aplica en su totalidad a Nabucodonosor, mientras que sÃ³lo una pequeÃ±a parte se aplicarÃa al Reino de Dios. En la profecÃa de las "setenta semanas", no tenÃamos necesidad de romper la profecÃa para tratar de entender lo que se aplica o si se aplican a mÃ¡s de una persona, porquÃ© el tema era claro y riconoscibil desde el principio. Toda la profecÃa de los 7 tiempos, sin embargo, se basa en un Ãºnico verso que es lo que dice ... "El Ã¡rbol creciÃ³ y se hizo fuerte, y su altura misma finalmente alcanzÃ³ a los cielos, y era visible Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. hasta la extremidad de toda la tierra. " (Daniel 4:11) El libro mencionado dice: "el Ã¡rbol grande es el dominio que alcanza los confines de la tierra', que abarca todo el reino de la humanidad. Por lo tanto simboliza la soberanÃa universal de JehovÃ¡, particularmente en relaciÃ³n con la tierra. - Daniel 4:17 ". No es un poco frÃ¡gil, es decir peligroso, construir una serie de profecÃas (todas unidas entre ellas) por esta Ãºnica explicaciÃ³n? Tenemos en cuenta que la especificaciÃ³n "particularmente en relaciÃ³n con la tierra" se debe al hecho que la soberanÃa universal de JehovÃ¡ es, de hecho, universal, por lo tanto el Ã¡rbol se habrÃa visto no sÃ³lo en toda la tierra, sino en todo el universo. Especificar, sin embargo, "en relaciÃ³n con la tierra", podemos excluir los cielos de la visiÃ³n y disfrutar de buena la aplicaciÃ³n. Sin embargo, debemos hacernos una pregunta. El hecho de que el Ã¡rbol alcanza los cielos o los confines de la tierra es una demostraciÃ³n o incluso una indicaciÃ³n de que estamos hablando acerca del Reino de Dios? Dejamos que sea la Biblia a iluminarnos. Observe lo que JehovÃ¡ le dijo a Ezequiel en referencia al FaraÃ³n. Ezequiel 31: 1-8 dice ... "Y ocurriÃ³, ademÃ¡s, que en el aÃ±o undÃ©cimo, en el [mes] tercero, en el [dÃa] primero del mes, la palabra de JehovÃ¡ me ocurriÃ³, y dijo: Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Â“Hijo del hombre, di a FaraÃ³n el rey de Egipto y a su muchedumbre: Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â”Â‘Â¿A quiÃ©n te has llegado a parecer en tu grandeza? Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Â¡Mira! A un asirio, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. un cedro del LÃbano, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. bello en rama mayor, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. con espesura arbolada que ofrecÃa sombra, y alto en estatura, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. de modo que entre las nubes Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. resultaba estar su punta. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Fueron aguas lo que lo hicieron crecer; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. la profundidad acuosa Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. hizo que se hiciera alto. Con sus Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. arroyos iba todo alrededor de su lugar en que estaba plantado; y sus canales enviaba a todos los Ã¡rboles del campo. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Por eso creciÃ³ aÂ mÃ¡s alta estatura que todos los [demÃ¡s] Ã¡rboles del campo. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â”Â’Y sus ramas mayores siguieron multiplicÃ¡ndose, y sus ramas continuaron alargÃ¡ndose debido a la mucha agua en sus conductos de agua. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â En sus ramas mayores todas las criaturas voladoras de los cielos hicieron sus nidos, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. y bajo sus ramas todas las bestias del campo parieron, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. y en su sombra todas las naciones populosas moraban. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Y llegÃ³ a ser bello en su grandeza, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. en la largura de su follaje, porque su sistema de raÃces resultÃ³ estar sobre muchas aguas. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â [Otros] cedros no lo igualaban en el jardÃn de Dios. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. En cuanto a los enebros, no se le parecÃan respecto a sus ramas mayores. Y los plÃ¡tanos mismos no resultaban como Ã©l en ramas. NingÃºn [otro] Ã¡rbol del jardÃn de Dios se le parecÃa en su belleza". Observamos algunas similitudes con la visiÃ³n de Nabucodonosor? Ambos son comparados con Ã¡rboles altos y poderosos. Ambos alcanzan alturas hasta el cielo, de hecho, las expresiones "llegar a los cielos" o "llegar a las nubes" son equivalentes - comparar Job 22:14; IsaÃas 14:14; Daniel 7:13 De los dos, podemos ver la gran diferencia con otros Ã¡rboles. En tanto se dice que todas las criaturas voladoras y todos los animales salvajes encuentran alimento y refugio. Ahora, si aplicamos el principio de que el Ã¡rbol que "llega a las nubes" debe representar al Reino de Dios, entonces incluso el imperio egipcio debe ser un anti-tipo del Reino. Por desgracia, esta historia no hace ninguna menciÃ³n de "tiempos" y por lo tanto no se puede contar nada. Si ustedes estÃ¡n pensando que es ridÃculo comparar el imperio egipcio al Reino de Dios, Â¿por quÃ© deberÃa ser aceptable hacerlo con el imperio de Babilonia? Â JehovÃ¡ va a decir "Por lo tanto, esto es lo que ha dicho el SeÃ±or Soberano JehovÃ¡: Â‘Debido a que te elevaste Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. en estatura, de modo que Ã©l colocÃ³ su punta aun entre las nubes Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. y su corazÃ³n llegÃ³ a estar ensalzado debido a su altura, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â yo tambiÃ©n lo darÃ© en mano del dÃ©spota de [las] naciones. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Sin falta actuarÃ¡ contra Ã©l. SegÃºn su iniquidad ciertamente lo expulsarÃ© " - Ezequiel 31:10, 11 El faraÃ³n se exaltÃ³, tal como lo hizo Nabucodonosor, y por esta razÃ³n Dios decidiÃ³ de humillarlo - Mateo 23:12 Nabucodonosor habÃa sÃ³lo siete aÃ±os de locura mientras el imperio del faraÃ³n fue asediado. Este verso tambiÃ©n hincapiÃ© en el hecho de que Dios quita y da "el reino quien El quiere" (y en este caso se dio el reino a FaraÃ³n, el "dÃ©spota de las naciones"). Ezequiel 31: 12-14 continÃºa ... Â“Y extraÃ±os, los tiranos de [las] naciones, lo cortarÃ¡n, y la gente lo abandonarÃ¡ sobre las montaÃ±as; y en todos los valles su follaje ciertamente caerÃ¡, y sus ramas serÃ¡n quebradas entre todos los cauces de los arroyos de la tierra. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Y de su sombra todos los pueblos de la tierra bajarÃ¡n, y lo abandonarÃ¡n. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Sobre su tronco caÃdo todas las criaturas voladoras de los cielos residirÃ¡n, y sobre sus ramas ciertamente llegarÃ¡n a estar todas las bestias salvajes del campo; Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â para que ninguno de los Ã¡rboles regados se haga alto en su estatura, o ponga su punta hasta entre las nubes, y para que ninguno que bebe agua se ponga de pie contra ellos en su altura, porque ciertamente todos ellos serÃ¡n dados a la muerte, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. a la tierra allÃ¡ abajo, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. en medio de los hijos de la humanidad, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. a los que van bajando al hoyoÂ’". TambiÃ©n este Ã¡rbol es cortado y humillado (JehovÃ¡ harÃ¡ esto a travÃ©s del rey de Babilonia). Debido a las muchas similitudes con el reino de Egipto, Â¿estamos realmente seguros de que el Â“Ã¡rbol llegÃ³ a los cielos" se refiere al Reino de Dios?
Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Cuando se trata de 1914, estamos realmente como los bereanos? O estamos "bereanos" sÃ³lo cuando hay que refutar las doctrinas de la cristianidad? Â Â Hay otro detalle interesante que deberÃa hacernos reflexionar. La Biblia compara el cielo a los gobiernos, sean estos humanos o celeste. La aplicaciÃ³n de este concepto al Ã¡rbol que alcanza los cielos y el echo otros Ã¡rboles no pueden competir con Ã©l, significarÃa simplemente que este Ã¡rbol tiene un reino sobre otros reinos (mÃ¡s pequeÃ±os) y de Babilonia la Grande se dice, en efecto, que "tiene el reino sobre los reyes de la tierra"- Apocalipsis 17:18 El Ãºnico paralelo legÃtimo que se puede hacer con Babilonia, sin miedo a tomar cantones, estÃ¡ relacionado con la gran Babilonia, ya que es el paralelismo que hace la Biblia. De hecho todos los imperios mundiales mencionados en las Escrituras han tenido, durante un tiempo, el reino sobre otros reinos. Cyrus afirmÃ³ de Ã©l mismo ... " Soy Ciro, rey del mundo, gran rey, rey legÃtimo, rey de Babilonia, rey de Sumer y Akkad, rey de los cuatro finales (de la tierra), hijo de Cambises ( Ka-am Bu-zi-ia ), gran rey, rey de Anshan, nieto de Ciro . . . descendiente de Teispe ,. . . de una familia (que) siempre ha reinado ". ( Ancient Near Eastern Texts, editado por J. Pritchard, 1974, p. 316) Sin duda, la humildad no era una caracterÃstica apreciada da los persas, incluso los babilonios, pero en realidad el reino tenÃa poder sobre otros reinos conocidos (asÃ¬ de ser llamado "rey de los cuatro confines de la tierra") y entonces se podrÃa decir tambiÃ©n que su altura habÃa llegada a los cielos y fue visible o conocido hasta los confines de la tierra. En la historia de Ezequiel y en aquella de Daniel no se hace referencia, ninguna, al Reino de Dios, mÃ¡s bien ... ambas cuentas mencionan el juicio de Dios sobre naciones enemigas, orgullosas y violentas. Cualquier cÃ¡lculo cronolÃ³gico deberÃa respetar el sujeto y, de hecho, esta parte de la Escritura es muy diferente de lo que se dice acerca de las "setenta semanas" - Daniel 9: 24-27 En el relato de Daniel capÃtulo 9 se habla claramente del MesÃas (ver Daniel 9:25) y no es necesario leer lo que no estÃ¡ escrito. Cualquier persona que quiere ser contencioso podrÃa discutir la fecha de inicio para contar las "semanas" o incluso el mÃ©todo presunta * (un dÃa por un aÃ±o), pero ciertamente no puede discutir el sujeto de la discusiÃ³n (el MesÃas). Se podrÃa, irÃ³nicamente, incluso discutir sobre quiÃ©n realmente era el MesÃas (algo que todavÃa estÃ n discutiendo los Judios), pero por supuesto no se puede argumentar que Daniel capÃtulo 9 habla del MesÃas! En lugar Daniel capÃtulo 4 habla de Nabucodonosor y su reino, mientras toda "la interpretaciÃ³n" del Reino de Dios se basa en cuatro lÃneas en el libro Â“Prestar atenciÃ²n a las prophecias de DanielÂ” que son: "Pero el gran Ã¡rbol es el dominio que alcanza los confines de la tierra, que abarca todo el reino de la humanidad. Por lo tanto simboliza la soberanÃa universal de JehovÃ¡, particularmente en relaciÃ³n con la tierra. - Daniel 4:17 "(CapÃtulo 6, pÃ¡gina 87 del libro de ediciÃ³n italiana). No parece una declaraciÃ³n muy fuerte con una base muy dÃ©bil? Tratamos de no hacer decir a Daniel 4:17 lo que en realidad no dice, ya que basta conocer las reglas bÃ¡sicas de la gramÃ¡tica para no distraer del tema. El tema es Nabucodonosor, y Dios hace comprender que, debido al hecho que Ã©l se exalta, El habrÃa eliminado su reino y se lo darÃa a quien Ã©l habÃa deseado (tal como lo hizo con el faraÃ³n). En la prÃ¡ctica, el que realmente gobierna es El Creador y todos los otros reinos existen los sÃ³lo porque Ã‰l lo permite - Comparar Romanos 13: 1 AsÃ que no hay razÃ³n para creer que el Ã¡rbol (es decir, uno de los muchos gobiernos que JehovÃ¡ ha permitido en la historia de la humanidad), representa el reino de Dios. Si alguien quiere sugerir que el hecho que Dios menciona Su dominio es indicativo de que el Ã¡rbol en sÃ mismo representa su dominio (y es una acrobacÃ¬a de semÃ¡ntica), entonces podemos tomar la historia reportada en 2 Reyes 19:14-19 y hacer lo mismo razonamiento. " Entonces EzequÃas tomÃ³ las cartas de la mano de los mensajeros y las leyÃ³, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. despuÃ©s de lo cual EzequÃas subiÃ³ a la casa de JehovÃ¡ y extendiÃ³ aquello delante de JehovÃ¡. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Y EzequÃas se puso a orar Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. delante de JehovÃ¡ y a decir: Â“Oh JehovÃ¡ el Dios de Israel, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. sentado sobre los querubines, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. tÃº solo eres el Dios [verdadero] de todos los reinos Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. de la tierra. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. TÃº mismo has hecho los cielos Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. y la tierra. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Inclina tu oÃdo, oh JehovÃ¡, y oye. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Abre tus ojos, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. oh JehovÃ¡, y ve, y oye las palabras de Senaquerib que Ã©l ha enviado para desafiar con escarnio Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. al Dios vivo. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Es un hecho, oh JehovÃ¡: los reyes de Asiria han devastado las naciones y su tierra. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Y han entregado sus dioses al fuego, porque no eran dioses, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. sino la hechura de manos de hombre, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. madera y piedra; de modo que los destruyeron. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Y ahora, oh JehovÃ¡ nuestro Dios, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. sÃ¡lvanos, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. por favor, de su mano, para que sepan todos los reinos de la tierra que tÃº, oh JehovÃ¡, eres Dios, tÃº soloÂ”. EzequÃas sabia muy bien que JehovÃ¡ era "el verdadero Dios de todos los reinos de la tierra" y orÃ³ para que Senaquerib se detuvo en su intento de destruir JerusalÃ©n. Sabemos muy bien lo que fue la respuesta de IsaÃas, de echo esa Ãºltima parte dice ... "porque tu excitarte contra mÃ Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. y tu rugido han subido y entrado en mis oÃdos. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Y ciertamente pondrÃ© mi garfio en tu nariz y mi freno entre tus labios, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. y realmente te conducirÃ© de vuelta por el camino por el cual has venidoÂ” - 2 Reyes 19:28 Si hacemos el mismo razonamiento hecho por el capÃtulo 4 de Daniel, entonces podrÃamos suponer que el reino de Senaquerib era un anti-tipo del reino de Dios porque Ã©l tambiÃ©n tuvo que aprender (a sus expensas) que JehovÃ¡ es "el verdadero Dios de toda los reinos de la tierra "o, en otras palabras "gobierna sobre toda la humanidad ". Por desgracia, en esta historia no hay nÃºmeros, dÃas, semanas o meses para ser calculados y por lo tanto no hay razÃ³n para leer "venida del reino de Dios", incluso cuando no hace ninguna menciÃ³n de esto. Es posible que el fuerte deseo de ver cumplidas las profecÃas ha influido sobre el intendimiento y luego habÃa conducido a leer lo que en realidad no fue escrito? Esto significa que, si realmente queremos ver un segundo cumplimiento de la historia reportada en Daniel capÃtulo 4, se debe respetar el sujeto descrito, osea Babilonia . Es probable que la historia de Daniel habla simplemente de la humillaciÃ³n de Nabucodonosor y que los "siete tiempos" significan sÃ³lo siete aÃ±os, pero no podemos ser categÃ³ricos. En este sentido vale la pena reflexionar sobre el hecho que inclusa la humillaciÃ³n del faraÃ³n, descrita en Ezequiel, podrÃa tener un segundo cumplimiento porquÃ© JehovÃ¡ dice que "sacudirÃ¡ las naciones" y esto podrÃa ser una referencia a la guerra de ArmagedÃ³n. Por lo tanto, sin convertirse en fanÃ¡ticos para una fecha especÃfica, si la historia de Daniel habÃa querido mostrarnos una segunda realizaciÃ³n de la profecÃa, el estÃ¡ en realidad diciendo "Babilonia caerÃ¡, permanecerÃ¡ inactiva durante siete tiempos y luego subirÃ de nuevo." Esto sÃ³lo puede traer a nuestra mente la Ãºltima menciÃ³n que la Biblia hace de Babilonia - RevelaciÃ³n 17: 5 Las pistas con respecto a Babilonia la Grande nos llevaron a la moderna naciÃ³n de Israel asiquÃ© la pregunta que debemos hacernos es ... "A partir de cual aÃ±o deberÃamos empezar a contar 2520 aÃ±os (es decir, 360 * 7) hasta que vea el avivamiento (si los hay) de Babilonia? " A partir de la historia de Daniel las posibles fechas entre las que se deben contar los siete tiempos son dos: 1) Desde Nabucodonosor tuvo la visiÃ³n o ha caÃdo en "desgracia" (de hecho, Daniel dice "el Ã¡rbol eres tu" - Daniel 4: 20-22) 2) A partir de la muerte de Nabucodonosor (si Nabucodonosor representa el reino de Babilonia, su muerte es el momento en el que el Ã¡rbol es "derribado", pero hay que destacar que no hay ninguna referencia a esto en el cuento de Daniel que, de hecho, dice que el reino habrÃa sido asegurado - Daniel 4:26) Â En cuanto a la primera hipÃ³tesis es imposible tener una fecha exacta, porque ni la Biblia ni la historia secular nos dicen en quÃ© aÃ±o Nabucodonosor fue expulsado de su reino. Esto sucediÃ³, por supuesto, despuÃ©s de 597 aC (aÃ±o en el que Nabucodonosor trae los primeros prisioneros judÃos en Babilonia, de acuerdo con la dataciÃ³n secular; hay una diferencia de 20 aÃ±os con el del cuerpo gobernante que, de hecho, pone el 617 a.C.) y dentro de la 570 aC (osea cuando Nabucodonosor muriÃ³ en 562 aC - de acuerdo a la fecha secular - si el perÃodo de "cautiverio" tiene una duraciÃ³n de siete aÃ±os, y el reino que se volviÃ³ se considerarÃ¡ que ha reinado durante al menos un aÃ±o, el 570 es el Ãºltimo aÃ±o Ãºtil). Sin embargo, en los primeros cuatro capÃtulos de Daniel se menciona Daniel, Sadrac, Mesac y Abed-nego, primero como niÃ±os (Daniel 1: 3, 4) y luego como hombres fuertes (Daniel 3:12, 27) y todo esto antes de que Nabucodonosor tenga el sueÃ±o del Ã¡rbol . Esto significa que, desde su expulsiÃ³n hasta el dÃa en que el rey erigiÃ³ la estatua de oro, pasaron al menos 15 , 20 aÃ±os. AsÃ que si los Judios han llegado a Babilonia en el 597 aC, pero pasan 20 aÃ±os antes de la construcciÃ³n del Ãdolo de oro y tenendo buena la fecha secular (562 aC), se puede restringir el perÃodo comprendido entre 577 aC al 570 aC Obviamente son sÃ³lo estimaciones, pero la fecha importante es el lÃmite mÃ¡ximo de tiempo (570 aC) por lo que si la deportaciÃ³n hasta que la construcciÃ³n de la imagen habÃan sido 15 aÃ±os en lugar de 20, la fecha de inicio serÃa 582 aC, pero la Ãºltima fecha posible siempre serÃa 570 aC La reactivaciÃ³n de Babilonia, si de esto estÃ¡ hablando Daniel, se llevarÃa a cabo entre 1943 d.C. (2520-577) y 1950 d.C. (2520-570). Para reforzar esta hipÃ³tesis habrÃa tambiÃ©n el hecho de que la historia de su expulsiÃ³n es la Ãºltima historia que se sabe de Nabucodonosor. Unos versos mÃ¡s adelante, de hecho, ya no se habla mas de Ã©l, sino de Belsasar (Daniel cap. 5). Es razonable concluir, por tanto, que Nabucodonosor tuvo una visiÃ³n en los Ãºltimos aÃ±os, tal vez durante la Ãºltima dÃ©cada de su reinado. Â La segunda hipÃ³tesis se refiere a la muerte de Nabucodonosor y que se produce, segÃºn las fuentes seculares, en el 562 aC De acuerdo con el GB debe ser el 582 aC (ver el libro "prestar atenciÃ³n a las profecÃas de Daniel" capÃtulo 7, pÃ¡gina 99). Contando 2.520 aÃ±os se llega a 1958 EV en el primer caso y 1938 EV en el segundo caso. Â Â¿QuÃ© dice la historia reciente? Si, como hemos visto, la gran Babilonia es la naciÃ³n de Israel, esto vendrÃa a respaldar la primera hipÃ³tesis. La primera hipÃ³tesis coloca la reactivaciÃ³n de Babilonia entre 1943 y 1950. La "resurrecciÃ³n" de Israel lleva a cabo, de hecho, en mayo de 1948. Conociendo la fijaciÃ³n de los seres humanos para las fechas y los cÃ¡lculos, sin embargo, es prudente prestar atenciÃ³n a cosas mÃ¡s importantes. Las fechas seculares no pueden ser seguras, porquÃ© la base de las conclusiones y comparaciones siempre serÃ n mÃ¡s o menos incompletas y, ciertamente, no podemos basar nuestra fe en estas cosas - 2 Corintios 5: 7 Â¿QuÃ© pasarÃa si el 597 AEC, asÃ como 607 o 537 o cualquier otra fecha en la que se ha basado gran parte de la profecÃa bÃblica (sin una verdadera razÃ³n para hacerlo) maÃ±ana resultarÃ¡ completamente equivocada? Las consecuencias podrÃan ser muy graves y no sÃ³lo desde un punto de vista humano - Amos 3: 1, 2 No tenemos dar por sentado la misericordia de JehovÃ¡; debemos ser cautos en nuestras declaraciones. Puesto que no tenemos certeza de lo que los "siete tiempos" representan, no tenemos hacer estas especulaciones. Lo mÃ¡s importante no es quizÃ s comprender la identidad de Babilonia la Grande? Este es un aspecto crucial de la profecÃa porque son las pistas que nos guÃen en los temas y en los tiempos que estamos viviendo - como seÃ±ales de trÃ¡fico - y no los cÃ¡lculos - Compare Mateo 24: 32, 33 y 2 Timoteo 3: 1-5 y haces un contraste con Mateo 24:36 No hay ninguna indicaciÃ³n de la hora de la muerte de los dos testigos vestidos de cilicio (vÃ©ase RevelaciÃ³n cap. 11), pero sabemos que se revelan al final de la guerra. Sabemos que la ciudad llamada "Sodoma y Egipto" es la gran Babilonia, osea Israel, y por lo tanto tambiÃ©n sabemos quÃ© paÃs y quÃ© eventos debemos mirar con cuidado . Si la Biblia profetiza el aÃ±o de su "resurrecciÃ³n" o no, es ciertamente interesante, pero no es esencial para los que creen que la Biblia es realmente la Palabra inspirada de Dios. Fundamental, en todo caso, serÃ¡ "salir de ella", cuando el rei del norte se prepararÃ¡ para destruirla. Â Â Â Â * Sin embargo, la Biblia confirma el mÃ©todo de "un dÃa por un aÃ±o" y tambiÃ©n que este era el mismo mÃ©todo utilizado por el pueblo de Dios - Ezequiel 4: 6; Lucas 3:15 Â
By JW Insider
Why another topic about 1914 and 607?
Because we could use a topic where we can all agree a little more easily. Seriously. In this topic, we don't need to worry about whether 607 is correct, or 1914 is correct. No one needs to say why it does or doesn't make sense to them. Let's just see if we can review the possible and probable sources that were influential, and ultimately resulted in 607 and 1914 being accepted as a Bible-based fulfillment of prophecy.
No one needs to jump from another thread about 607 and Biblical evidence over to this one. In fact, I just read a couple of books last night for the first time, and I had some questions that I couldn't find an answer to, and hoped that someone from that other thread, or anyone really, might have run across the resources that might have answered the questions. I'm reading one more book first, and don't think I'll finish it tonight, so consider this topic to be kind of a placeholder for a couple days.
So this is the purpose of the three current threads:
https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/5510-607-bce-is-it-biblically-supported/ a place to discuss mostly the Scriptural evidence for or against the 607 portion of the 1914 doctrine. https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/51655-607-bce-is-there-any-secular-support-for-the-watch-towers-view/ a place to discuss mostly the Secular evidence for or against the 607 portion of the 1914 doctrine. And this current one: a place to discuss the sources that were influential in the WTS accepting the 607 date as part of the 1914 doctrine. One place to start is with a couple sentences in the "Proclaimers" book (next post). I personally intend to avoid a certain book by COJ for this topic, to avoid unnecessary controversy, although anyone should feel free to use any resources from anywhere they wish, as long as it appears to be a statement of fact. Again, this is not about questioning the correctness of the doctrine.
By JW Insider
A recent topic about whether the Watchtower view of 607 BCE is SCRIPTURALLY supported is linked below. This new topic should provide a better place to discuss the SECULAR evidence. I also think it would be useful to discuss the methodology that the Watch Tower Society has historically used to treat this evidence.
I would hope that we can do this without so much side discussions of unrelated topics. To avoid another topic that goes on for 30+ pages where only half of them were on-topic, I would suggest that if we get enough off-topic posts, we merely move them to another more appropriate topic.
The link to the most recent topic on a similar subject is here:
This age-old question has been the subject of children, science and everyone in between since its written origin in ancient Greek history. Depending on what source you read today, they think they’ve nailed down the answer; and it appears to go either way.
Here is an easier question:
What comes first, birth or birth pains? We know this answer, but when it comes to the arrival of God’s Kingdom, the Watchtower does not.
From the NWT: In answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads you, for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet. “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. All these things are a BEGINNING OF PANGS OF DISTRESS. “ Matt 24: 4-8
The Watchtower teaches that God’s Kingdom arrived in 1914 in the heavens. This event is to be interpreted as the beginning of the signs of “pangs of distress”, their choice of translation. Certainly, the world clearly shows distress evident in the wars, famines, pestilences and earthquakes.
The Greek word for Wt.’s use of “pangs of distress” (ōdin) literally means pains related to child birth – labor pains.
This truth is found in Watchtower’s Greek Interlinear, reading word for word:
“All but these (things) beginning of pangs of birth”.
Why isn’t it read this way when translating the scripture on the same page? The Watchtower would be held responsible for explaining how the birth of God’s Kingdom supposedly arrives before birth pains. “The Kingdom is Born in heaven”, according to the “kr”, chapter 2; yet ironically, it appears to be followed by birth pains.
From “What Does the Bible Teach?” - “Just as Jesus predicted, his “presence” as heavenly King has been marked by dramatic world developments—war, famine, earthquakes, pestilences. (Matthew 24:3-8; Luke 21:11) Such developments bear powerful testimony to the fact that 1914 indeed marked the BIRTH of God’s Heavenly Kingdom and the BEGINNING of “the last days” (LABOR PAINS!) of this present wicked system of things.—2 Timothy 3:1-5.
How clever of them to change the “beginning of birth pains” (“pains of distress”) to “the beginning of the last days”!
Concerning the focusing of our eyes on Satan’s world for signs of the coming Kingdom, it is not Satan’s corrupt world that is in labor, it is the promised New Covenant that gives “birth” to God’s Kingdom. This ‘birthing’ is not complete until the full number of Kingdom heirs are sealed in the heavens; but not before they individually experience spiritual “labor/birth pains”, resulting from Satan’s demand to test each one. John 18:36; 17:16; Rev 12:1-6; Luke 22:31; Mark 13:13; John16: 2; Rev 2:9,10,13,17,7,24,26,28; 6:9,11; 3:5,9,12,21,22
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Watchtower 14/1/15 - “Let your Kingdom come”: God’s Kingdom came in 1914 when Jesus was made King in heaven. God’s Kingdom will also come in the future when Jesus destroys the wicked."
Here is where they have derived their thought:
“Therefore, you should pray like this:
Our Father in heaven,
Your name be honored as holy.
Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And do not bring us into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.
For Yours is the kingdom and the power
and the glory forever. Amen." Matt 6:9-13
Their comment has taken scripture out of context. Can the Kingdom of God arrive via two births at two different times? Obviously, God’s Kingdom has NOT come IN ANY FORM, as Satan is still here.
By Israeli Bar Avaddhon
Everything we read about the "70-Week" prophecy reported in the book "Pay Attention to Daniel's Prophecy!" (Chapter 11) is worthy of attention and demonstrates how accurate and reliable the word of God is even when pronouncing prophecies very distant in time. The historical accuracy and the numerous Scriptural references that gave weight and authority to the whole speech were also evident. Anyone who approaches the Word of God without preconceptions can not but be struck by this demonstration of power and wisdom on the part of God. The explanation of the 70 weeks is unexceptionable but can be said to be the same as other prophecies? What about those calculations on which many of us have based the hopes of a lifetime and that clashed with the criticism of the majority? We are talking about 1914. Is this also a prophecy of Daniel? Was this also treated with the same marvelous accuracy of the seventy weeks we have just read? Although it may not be easy, we try to be truly objective because understanding or not understanding the prophecy, like the rest of God's Word, can make much difference to our eternal future - John 17: 3; 2 Thessalonians 1: 8 WHAT DID OF 1914? Â The book "Pay Attention to Daniel's Prophecy" on pages 85 to 97 explains in detail the dream of Nebuchadnezzar and the 7-time prophecy asserting that it indicates the coming of the Kingdom of God in 1914. It would therefore be profitable to take the book and compare it with what will be read below. Does Nebuchadnezzar's dream really prophesy the coming of the Kingdom of God in 1914? Â THAT'S IT? Let's try to examine what is written in the book without prejudices. At a first reading it seems that Jehovah God wanted to give a lesson of humility to Nebuchadnezzar, which happened. The "seven times", at least for him, were seven years and this is confirmed by the whole story. Reading all this without preconceptions, it does not seem that we should look for other explanations more or less hidden. However, let us take the thesis that "the tree indicates a dominion and a sovereignty much greater than those of the king of Babylon. It symbolizes the universal sovereignty of Jehovah, the King of the heavens, especially with respect to the earth ". This means, first of all, that the Kingdom of God is comparing, in a certain way, to the kingdom of Babylon and this strides with many biblical passages describing Babylon as the greatest enemy of God's people. It also means that the "vigilante" (ie an angel of Jehovah) decides to overthrow the Kingdom of God and this is, to say the least, strange. Some will object that we must not look for similarities in every aspect of the prophecy but also decide which part of the prophecy must have a second fulfillment and which one could be arbitrary enough. After all, we have no other scriptural references to show us which details to focus on and which to leave out. So it is being said that the prophecy of the tree applies entirely to Nebuchadnezzar while only a small part would apply to the Kingdom of God. For the prophecy of the "seventy weeks" we did not need to break the prophecy to try to understand who was applied or if it applied to more than one person because the subject was clear and recognizable from the beginning. On the contrary, all the 7-day prophecy is built on a single verse that is what it says ... "The tree grew and became strong, and its same height finally reached the heavens and was visible to the end of the whole earth" (Daniel 4:11). Meanwhile, the writing says that the tree "becomes visible" to the end of the earth and not that "embraces the end of the earth" and the meaning is very different. The aforementioned book says: "the great tree represents the 'domain that reaches the end of the earth', which embraces the whole realm of mankind. Thus it symbolizes the universal sovereignty of Jehovah, particularly in relation to the earth. - Daniel 4:17 ". "Reaching the end of the earth" means that it extends the domain to the end of the earth while "being visible to the end of the earth" means that it is known, famous. AnyhowÂ… is not it a bit fragile, let's say risky, to build a series of prophecies (all linked together) on this single explanation? Note that the specification "particularly in relation to the earth" is due to the fact that the universal sovereignty of Jehovah is, indeed, universal, for which the tree should have been seen not only in the whole earth but throughout the universe. By specifying, instead, "in relation to the earth", we can exclude the skies from the vision and take the application for good. Anyway, we should ask a question. Is the fact that the tree reaches the heavens or the end of the earth itÂ’s a demonstration or even an indication of the fact that we are talking about the Kingdom of God? We always leave the Bible to enlighten us. Notice what Jehovah told Ezekiel in reference to the Pharaoh. Ezekiel 31: 1-8 says Â… Â“In the 11th year, in the third month, on the first day of the month, the word of Jehovah again came to me, saying: Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Â“Son of man, say to Phar?aoh king of Egypt and to his hordes, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â‘Whom are you like in your greatness? Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â There was an AsÂ·syr?iÂ·an, a cedar in Leb?aÂ·non,With beautiful branches like a shady thicket, lofty in stature;Its top was among the clouds. Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â The waters made it grow big, the deep springs of water caused it to grow high. Streams were all around where it was planted;Their channels watered all the trees of the field. Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â That is why it grew taller than all the other trees of the field. Its boughs multiplied, and its branches grew longBecause of the abundant water in its streams. Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â All the birds of the sky nested in its boughs,All the wild animals of the field gave birth under its branches,And all the populous nations were dwelling in its shade. Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â It became majestic in beauty and in the length of its branches,For its roots went down into abundant waters. Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â No other cedars in the garden of God Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. could compare to it. None of the juniper trees had boughs like it,And none of the plane trees could match its branches. No other tree in the garden of God could rival its beautyÂ”. Do we note some similarities with the vision of Nebuchadnezzar? Both are compared to tall and mighty trees. Both reach high heights, up to the sky in fact the expressions "reach the heavens" or "reach the clouds" are equivalent - Compare Job 22:14; Isaiah 14:14; Daniel 7:13 Of both we notice the big difference with the other trees. Of both it is said that all the flying creatures and all the wild beasts find food and shelter. Now if we apply the principle that the tree that "reaches the clouds" must represent the Kingdom of God, then even the Egyptian empire should be an antitype of the Kingdom. Unfortunately, however, in this story there is no mention of the "times" and consequently it is not possible to count anything. If you think it's ridiculous that the Egyptian empire will represent the Kingdom of God, why should it be acceptable to the Babylonian empire? Jehovah goes on to say Â“Â“Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: Â‘Because it Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. became so tall, lifting its top among the clouds, and its heart became arrogant because of its height, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â I will hand it over to the mighty ruler of the nations. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. He will surely act against it, and I will reject it for its wickednessÂ”. The Pharaoh was exalted, just as Nebuchadnezzar did, and for this reason God decided to humiliate him - Matthew 23:12 Nebuchadnezzar escaped with seven years of madness while Pharaoh's empire was besieged. Also this verse remarks the fact that God takes away and gives "the kingdom to whom he wills" (and in this case He gave the kingdom of Pharaoh to the "despot of nations"). Ezekiel 31: 12-14 continues Â… Â“And foreigners, the most ruthless of the nations, will cut it down, and they will abandon it on the mountains, and its foliage will fall in all the valleys, and its branches will lie broken in all the streams of the land. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. All the peoples of the earth will depart from its shade and abandon it. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â All the birds of the sky will live on its fallen trunk, and all the wild animals of the field on its branches. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â This is so that no tree near the waters should grow so tall or lift up its top among the clouds and that no well-watered tree may reach up to them in height. For they will all be given over to death, to the land down below, along with the sons of mankind, who are going down into the pit.Â’. Even this tree is cut down and humiliated (Jehovah will do this through the king of Babylon). Because of the many similarities with the kingdom of Egypt, are we really certain that the tree that "reached the heavens" refers to the Kingdom of God? Â When we talk about 1914, are we really like the Bereans? Or are we "Bereans" only when we have to refute the doctrines of Christianity? Â There is another interesting detail that should make us reflect. The Bible compares the heavens to governments, be they human or celestial. Applying this concept to the tree that reaches the heavens and whose other trees do not stand comparison with it, it would simply mean that this tree has the kingdom over the other (smaller) kingdoms and of Babylon the Great is said to have " the kingdom over the kings of the earth "- Revelation 17:18 The only legitimate parallel that you can do with Babylon, without fear of taking corners, is related to Babylon the Great because it is the parallelism that makes the Bible. Indeed, all the world empires mentioned in the Scriptures had, for a time, the kingdom over the other kingdoms. Cyrus, in fact, said of himself ... "I am Cyrus, king of the world, great king, legitimate king, king of Babylon, king of Sumer and Akkad, king of the four extremities (of the earth), son of Cambyses (Ka-am -bu-zi-ia), great king, king of Anzan, nephew of Cyrus ,. . . descendant of Teispe,. . . of a family (that) has always reigned ". (Ancient Near Eastern Texts, edited by J. B. Pritchard, 1974, p.37). Undoubtedly humility was not a characteristic appreciated by the Persians as well as by the Babylonians but in fact the kingdom had power over the other known kingdoms (so to be called "king of the four ends of the earth") and so it could be said that its height had reached the heavens and was visible or known to the ends of the earth. In the story of Ezekiel and in that of Daniel there is no reference, just anyone, to the Kingdom of God, on the contrary ... both accounts mention a judgment from God on enemy nations, proud and violent. Any chronological calculation should respect the subject in being and in fact this part of the Scripture is very different from what is said about the "seventy weeks" - Daniel 9: 24-27 In the account of Daniel chapter 9, one speaks clearly of the Messiah (see Daniel 9:25) and it is not necessary to read what is not written. Anyone who wanted to be polemical could discuss the start date from which to count the "weeks" or even the adduct method * (one day for a year) but certainly we can not discuss the subject in existence (the Messiah). It could also be absurd to discuss who the Messiah really was (which Jews are still discussing) but certainly we can not argue that Daniel chapter 9 speaks of the arrival of the Messiah! Instead, Daniel chapter 4 speaks of Nebuchadnezzar and his kingdom, while all the "understanding" concerning the Kingdom of God is built on four lines in the book "Pay attention to Daniel's prophecies!" That read: "But the great tree represents the domain that reaches the end of the earth, which embraces the entire kingdom of mankind. Thus it symbolizes the universal sovereignty of Jehovah, particularly in relation to the earth. - Daniel 4:17 "(chapter 6, page 87 of the Italian edition of the book). Does not this seem like a very firm statement with a very weak base? Let us try not to tell Daniel 4:17 what he does not really say because it is enough to know the basic rules of grammar so as not to be distracted by the subject. The subject is Nebuchadnezzar and God makes him understand that, because of the fact that he is exalted, he would have taken away his kingdom and given it to whoever He had wanted (exactly as He did to Pharaoh). In practice the one who really rules is the Creator and the other kingdoms exist only because He allows it - Compare Romans 13: 1 So there is no reason to believe that the tree (that is, one of the many governments that Jehovah has permitted in the history of mankind), actually represents the Kingdom of God. If someone wants to imply that the fact that God mentions His dominion is indicative that the tree itself represents His dominion (and is an incredible semantic acrobatics) then we can take the story reported in 2 Kings 19: 14-19 and do it same reasoning. Â“HezÂ·eÂ·ki?ah took the letters out of the hand of the messengers and read them. HezÂ·eÂ·ki?ah then went up to the house of Jehovah and spread them Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. out before Jehovah. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â And HezÂ·eÂ·ki?ah began to pray Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. before Jehovah and say: Â“O Jehovah the God of Israel, sitting enthroned above Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. the cherubs, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. you alone are the true God of all the kingdoms of the earth. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. You made the heavens and the earth. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Incline your ear, O Jehovah, and hear! Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Open your eyes, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. O Jehovah, and see! Hear the words that SenÂ·nach?erÂ·ib has sent to taunt the living God. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â It is a fact, O Jehovah, that the kings of AsÂ·syr?iÂ·a have devastated the nations and their lands. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â And they have thrown their gods into the fire, because they were not gods Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. but the work of human hands, Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. wood and stone. That is why they could destroy them. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â But now, O Jehovah our God, please save us out of his hand, so that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you alone are God, O Jehovah.Â” Hezekiah knew very well that Jehovah was "the true God of all the kingdoms of the earth" and he prayed that Sennacherib would be stopped in his intent to destroy Jerusalem. We know very well what was the answer of Isaiah which last part reads Â… Â“Because your rage against me Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. and your roaring have reached my ears. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. So I will put my hook in your nose and my bridle Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. between your lips,And I will lead you back the way you came.Â” - 2 Kings 19:28 If we did the same reasoning as for chapter 4 of Daniel, then we might suppose that the "reign of Sennacherib" was also an antitype of the kingdom of God because he too had to learn (at his own expense) that Jehovah is "the true God of all. the kingdoms of the earth "or, in other words, "dominates over all mankind ". Unfortunately, even in this story there are no numbers, days, weeks or months to be calculated and therefore no reason to read "the coming of the kingdom of God" even where no mention is made of it. Is it possible that the strong desire to see the prophecies fulfill has influenced the intention and therefore pushed to read what was not actually written? This means that if you really want to see a second fulfillment of the story reported in Daniel chapter 4, you should respect the subject in being and that is Babylon. It is likely that the story of Daniel is simply telling the humiliation of Nebuchadnezzar and that the "seven times" mean only seven years but we can not be categorical. In this regard it is useful to reflect on the fact that even the humiliation of the Pharaoh, reported in Ezekiel, could have a second fulfillment as Jehovah says that he will "shake the nations" and this could be a reference to the Armageddon war. Â So, without fixing ourselves too much with a specific date, in case the story of Daniel wanted to show us a second fulfillment of the prophecy, the report is actually saying: "Babylon will fall, will remain inactive for seven times and then rise again". This can only bring our mind back to the last mention that the Bible makes of Babylon - Revelation 17:5 The clues about Babylon the Great brought us to the nation of Israel so the question we should ask ourselves is ... "From what year we should start counting the 2520 years (ie 360 * 7) until we see the rebirth (if any) of Babylon? " From the story of Daniel the possible dates from which to count the seven times are two: 1) Since Nebuchadnezzar has had the vision or has fallen into "misfortune" (in fact, Daniel says "the tree is you" - Daniel 4: 20-22) 2) From the death of Nebuchadnezzar (if Nebuchadnezzar represents the kingdom of Babylon, his death is the moment when the tree is "knocked down" but it is to be noted that there is no reference to this in the narration of Daniel who, indeed, he says that the kingdom would be assured - Daniel 4:26) As far as the first hypothesis is concerned, it is impossible to have an accurate date because neither the Bible nor the secular history tells us in which year Nebuchadnezzar was expelled from his kingdom. This happened, obviously, after 597 a.E.V. (year in which Nebuchadnezzar brings the first Jewish prisoners to Babylon according to the secular date, there is a difference of 20 years with that of the slave who, in fact, puts 617 a.E.V.) and within 570 a.E.V. (if Nebuchadnezzar dies in 562 BCE - always according to the secular date - and the period of "captivity" lasts 7 years and the kingdom is returned to him presumed to have reigned for at least a year, 570 is the last useful year) . However in the first four chapters of Daniel we mention Daniel, Sadrac, Mesac and Abednego first as children (Daniel 1: 3, 4) and later as robust men (Daniel 3:12, 27) and all this before Nebuchadnezzar has the famous dream tree. This means that, from their deportation until the day when the king erected the image of gold, at least 15, 20 years passed. So if the Jews came to Babylon in 597 a.E.V. but they pass 20 years before the construction of the golden idol and having taken for good the secular date (562 a.E.V) it is possible to restrict the period from 577 a.E.V. up to 570 a.E.V. Obviously they are only estimates but the important date is the maximum time limit (570 a.E.V) so if from the deportation until the construction of the image had passed 15 years instead of 20, the starting date would be 582 a.E.V. but the last possible useful date would always be 570 a.E.V. The eventual rebirth of Babylon, if Daniel is talking about this, would have happened between 1943 E.V. (2520-577) and 1950 E.V. (2520-570). To reinforce this hypothesis there would also be the fact that the narration of his expulsion is the last story reported to Nebuchadnezzar. Few verses later, in fact, we no longer speak of him but of Baldassarre (Daniel chapter 5). It is reasonable to conclude, therefore, that Nebuchadnezzar had the vision in the last years, perhaps during the last decade of his reign. Â The second hypothesis concerns the death of Nebuchadnezzar, which takes place, according to the secular sources, in 562 a.E.V. According to the slave, in 582 a.E.V. (see the book "Pay Attention to Daniel's Prophecy" chapter 7, page 99). Counting 2520 years we arrive at 1958 E.V. in the first case and to 1938 E.V. in the second case. Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. "Babylon will fall, remain inactive for seven times and then rise again" Â What does recent history tell us? If, as we have seen, Babylon the Great is the nation of Israel, this would corroborate the first hypothesis. The first hypothesis places the rebirth of Babylon between 1943 and 1950. Indeed, the "resurrection" of Israel took place in May 1948. Â Knowing the fixation of human beings for dates and calculations, however, it is prudent to pay attention to the most important things. The secular dates can not be secure, based on findings and comparisons more or less incomplete, and certainly we can not base our faith on this - 2 Corinthians 5: 7 What would happen if the 597 a.E.V., as well as 607 or 537 or any other date on which we based much of the biblical prophecies (without there being a real reason for doing so) tomorrow proved to be completely wrong? The consequences could be very serious and not just from a human point of view - Amos 3: 1, 2 We must not take Jehovah's mercy for granted, so we must be cautious in our statements. Since we have no certainty that the "seven times" do not simply represent seven years, we should not lose ourselves in these speculations. Is not the most important thing to understand the identity of Babylon the Great? Those who have truly studied the Bible without preconceptions have understood that Babylon the Great is indeed Israel and this has understood it regardless of dates and calculations. This is a crucial aspect of prophecy because it is the clues that guide us in the subjects and times in which we are living, such as road signs, and not the calculations - Compare Matthew 24:32, 33 and 2 Timothy 3: 1-5 and do a contrast with Matthew 24:36 There is no temporal indication for the killing of the two clothed witnesses (see Revelation chapter 11) but we know that they are revealed at the end of the war. We know that the city called "Sodom and Egypt" is Babylon the Great, hence Israel, and as a result we also know which nation and events to watch carefully. That the Bible actually prophesises the year of his "resurrection" or not, is certainly interesting but not fundamental for those who believe that it is indeed the inspired Word of God. Fundamental, if anything, will be "get out of it" when the UN prepares to destroy it. Â * However the Bible confirms the "one day for a year" method and also that this was the same method used by God's people - Ezekiel 4: 6; Luke 3:15 ** The Bible allows us to be "fully competent" then all the speeches made on 607 a.E.V. pro and contra, they are absolutely useless. Nebuchadnezzar's dream, as we have seen, has nothing to do with the Kingdom of God Â Â
By Israeli Bar Avaddhon
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Â¿A quÃ© generaciÃ³n se refiriÃ³ el SeÃ±or cuando dijo las palabras de arriba? Responder esta pregunta, que se ha vuelto casi obsesivo en los Ãºltimos aÃ±os, es ciertamente importante porque es parte de esas profecÃas que podrÃan cambiar, y mucho, nuestra situaciÃ³n y nuestro punto de vista. Es cierto que, a este respecto, los rÃos de palabras se han desperdiciado y, en la mayorÃa de los casos, se ha dicho mÃ¡s de lo necesario. Hasta el punto de que hoy existe incluso cierta vergÃ¼enza al tener que examinar esta parte de la Palabra de Dios. VergÃ¼enza de que no tenemos con otras escrituras. Hoy, frente a una persona que nos pide explicaciones sobre esta afirmaciÃ³n del SeÃ±or, debemos poner nuestra mano en una explicaciÃ³n abstrusa de una "generaciÃ³n mÃºltiple" fantasma ... osea hablar de grupos de personas (y perÃodos) que se reÃºnen con otros grupos de personas ... Y este ni siquiera serÃa el mayor problema si no fuera que esta es solo otra versiÃ³n / modificaciÃ³n del significado de "generaciÃ³n" (y de lo que hemos enseÃ±ado en el pasado). Hemos llegado a tal situaciÃ³n que, es inÃºtil negarlo, parece ser casi culpa del SeÃ±or por no ser mÃ¡s preciso. Tal vez sea mÃ¡s fÃ¡cil para alguien pensar que el SeÃ±or fue deliberadamente enigmÃ¡tico en lugar de volver a discutir el aÃ±o inicial de esa generaciÃ³n. Sin embargo, si leemos solo lo que estÃ¡ escrito, parece un discurso simple y directo. La generaciÃ³n que habrÃa visto el comienzo de la guerra y otros aspectos del signo no habrÃa pasado en absoluto. Si por error leemos solo lo que estÃ¡ escrito, serÃa evidente que esa "generaciÃ³n" no puede ser la de 1914 cualquier extensiÃ³n que quisiÃ©ramos atacar. Â Sin esta premisa, sin embargo, las palabras del SeÃ±or permanecen y al ser parte de la Palabra de Dios debemos examinarlas sin prejuicios, olvidando nuestro pasado. La pregunta, despuÃ©s de todo, es muy simple. Â¿QuÃ© perÃodo de tiempo habrÃa abrazado la seÃ±al que los cristianos reconocerÃan y por quÃ© deberÃan "levantar la cabeza"? - Lucas 21:28 Como hemos visto en el estudio del libro Apocalipsis, despuÃ©s de las advertencias a las siete congregaciones y la apertura de los siete sellos, en el capÃtulo ocho comienzan las explosiones de trompetas. Estas explosiones de trompetas son mensajes de juicio y juicios verdaderos contra el mundo de SatanÃ¡s. Â En el capÃtulo nueve de Apocalipsis hablamos de las Ãºltimas tres trompetas que son diferentes de las anteriores porque incluyen los "ay" declarados por el Ã¡guila. Entendemos que entre estos ay hay guerra, de hecho los caballos o los dos ejÃ©rcitos de caballerÃa representan la guerra. Vamos a detenernos por un momento. El SeÃ±or, en su descripciÃ³n de los Ãºltimos dÃas, mencionÃ³ la guerra como una de esas cosas que sus seguidores podÃan ver y entender. Entonces Ã©l habla de la tribulaciÃ³n y la persecuciÃ³n, etc. La guerra descrita en Apocalipsis es la referida por JesÃºs? Realmente parece asÃ porque estos eventos nos llevan a los capÃtulos once, doce y trece del escenario de Apocalipsis. Lo que sea que haya sucedido antes, o la interpretaciÃ³n que quieras dar a estos ejÃ©rcitos de caballerÃa, el hecho es que desde el capÃtulo trece en adelante estÃ¡ claro que solo hay un poder dominante - Apocalipsis 13: 2 Para haber permanecido solo un poder (entre otras cosas, herido hasta la muerte), algo debe haber sucedido en los capÃtulos anteriores, Â¿no es asÃ? Si comparamos esto con Daniel 11:40, entendemos que ese "algo" tiene que ver con la guerra: lo Ãºnico que podrÃa justificar la desapariciÃ³n del rey antagonista y una sola bestia a la que SatanÃ¡s le da todo su dominio, trono y las autoridades. Entonces podemos suponer que cuando Cristo dijo que escucharÃan de guerras y noticias de guerras, refiriÃ©ndose a los Ãºltimos dÃas, se referÃa a esta gran guerra. No sabemos cuÃ¡ndo esta guerra estallarÃ¡ ni cuÃ¡nto tiempo hubiera durado, pero comparando otras escrituras relacionadas con este perÃodo de tiempo, siempre en el libro de Daniel, podemos entender los lÃmites de esta generaciÃ³n. En el capÃtulo ocho de Daniel, hemos visto que el "cuerno pequeÃ±o" que se habrÃa vuelto muy grande no puede ser mÃ¡s que el rey del norte, que habrÃa hecho caer a tres reyes. Â Entre otras cosas, antes de la batalla con su enemigo histÃ³rico, este rey suprimirÃa gradualmente el sacrificio continuo. Como se especifica en un artÃculo anterior, no podemos saber si lo que sucediÃ³ el 20 de abril en Rusia es en realidad el evento descrito en Daniel. PodrÃa revelarse una burbuja de jabÃ³n y, por lo tanto, la supresiÃ³n del sacrificio continuo podrÃa "posponerse" a otra fecha, tal vez en un aÃ±o, entre cinco, entre diez ... Hasta que lo veamos, no lo sabremos. Esto hace que sea imposible, al menos por ahora, establecer la fecha de inicio de la generaciÃ³n a la que se refiriÃ³ el SeÃ±or, pero es absolutamente independiente al establecer la duraciÃ³n de la generaciÃ³n a la que se refiere. Sabemos que cuando el rey del norte comience a suprimir el sacrificio constante hasta que el templo se purifique (lo que significa que JehovÃ¡ permite que esta guerra tambiÃ©n purifique a su pueblo), pasarÃ¡n las 2300 tardes y maÃ±anas. Esto significa un poco mÃ¡s de seis aÃ±os. Al final (o en medio del) de este perÃodo comenzarÃ¡n a predicar a los dos testigos vestidos (Apocalipsis 11: 1, 2) que harÃ¡n esto por 1260 dÃas, o sea, aproximadamente tres aÃ±os y medio. Desde que llegamos a la "condiciÃ³n correcta" del Templo, un evento descrito en el capÃtulo 11 de Apocalipsis y luego siguiendo las primeras seis trompetas, sabemos que la guerra entre el norte y el sur debe entrar en este perÃodo. Poco despuÃ©s del asesinato de los dos testigos y su resurrecciÃ³n, "la guerra estalla en el cielo", que, como hemos visto al comparar Apocalipsis con Daniel 12:11, durarÃ¡ treinta dÃas o menos. Entonces aparece el falso profeta, que pisotearÃ¡ al pueblo de Dios por cuarenta y dos meses. Entonces, desde la predicaciÃ³n de los dos testigos hasta la destrucciÃ³n del falso profeta, pasan cerca de siete aÃ±os. Si agregamos, a estas, las 2300 tardes y maÃ±anas previas, o poco mÃ¡s de seis aÃ±os, aquÃ tenemos toda la generaciÃ³n que habrÃa visto los signos del fin del sistema de cosas y que "no habrÃa pasado para nada". Desde el comienzo de la RevelaciÃ³n hasta el estallido de la guerra de ArmagedÃ³n, pasan alrededor de 13/14 aÃ±os. Â¿No parece decididamente mÃ¡s lÃ³gico llevar estos 14 aÃ±os en una sola generaciÃ³n y decir "no pasarÃ¡ para nada"? No necesitamos forzar el significado de la palabra generaciÃ³n, preguntarnos quÃ© quiere decir realmente el SeÃ±or, preguntar cuÃ¡nto puede durar una generaciÃ³n, si hay mÃ¡s de un centenar todavÃa vivo o cuÃ¡ntos significados puede tener la palabra "generaciÃ³n" en griego. etc etc ... Entendiendo que los eventos descritos en Mateo como en otros libros bÃblicos ocurrirÃan durante 13/14 aÃ±os (puede ser menos, como veremos en un articulo futuro per no mas) entonces simplemente podemos leer lo que estÃ¡ escrito. Tratamos? "Entonces tÃº tambiÃ©n, cuando ves todas estas cosas, sabes que Ã©l estÃ¡ cerca, en las puertas, realmente te digo que esta generaciÃ³n no pasarÃ¡ en absoluto hasta que todas estas cosas hayan sucedido" - Mateo 24:33, 34
By Israeli Bar Avaddhon
Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â¿Logramos a identificar las cosas mÃ¡s importantes? Â Estudiando la Palabra de Dios puede pasar de enfrentar las propias convicciones. Algunas de estas estÃ¡n tan arraigadas y se consideran asÃ¬ importantes que ponerlas en tela de juicio puede ser un verdadero desafÃo. TambiÃ©n debemos ser honestos y darnos cuenta de que hay cosas mÃ¡s importantes y otras menos importantes. Si hay doctrinas primarias, es evidente que hay tambiÃ©n las segundarias. Algunas cosas simplemente pueden ser "mejoras", mientras que otras son verdaderos cambios. Y luego estÃ¡n aquellas cosas que se consideran doctrinas primarias solo en nuestra cabeza. El 1914 ha sido ridÃculamente elevado a doctrina primaria, pero no lo es en absoluto y nunca lo fue independientemente de que haya sida correcta. Â¿CÃ³mo podemos decirlo? El cristiano debe mantener vivo el sentido de urgencia (Apocalipsis 16:15) y mantenerse separado de este mundo. No hay lÃmite de tiempo, no hay ninguna fecha de caducidad en esto - Mateo 24:13 Si la Biblia hubiera indicado 1914, 1934, 1984 o 2017 ... Â¿habrÃa afectado estas verdades? Â¿HabrÃa dicho Ã©l ... "Tienes que empezar a estar alerta desde 1984 en adelante"? Â¿O habrÃa dicho: "Debes mantenerte intachable del mundo solo a partir de esta fecha"? Y cualquier fecha, ademÃ¡s, afecta nuestra relaciÃ³n con Ã©l? Si lo hace, ciertamente no lo hace de manera positiva. Si hubiera vivido en 1800 y hubiera escuchado que la presencia de Cristo habrÃa comenzado no antes de 1914, probablemente me habrÃa relajado hasta el Ãºltimo momento (los seres humanos somos egoÃstas y calculadores) *. Por el contrario podrÃa empezar hacer el "pionere" sÃ³lo para evitar un posible castigo sabiendo que "desde un cierto punto en adelante," comenzÃ³ su inspecciÃ³n. Lo hemos elevado a una doctrina primaria, tanto que solo pensar en volver a discutirla nos cataloga inmediatamente como apÃ³statas, porque en esta fecha se ha enfocado una buena parte de la credibilidad de la organizaciÃ³n y, tambiÃ©n en esta fecha, otras fechas y profecÃas han sido "pegadas" (como 1918 y 1919 debe ser, secuencialmente, la fecha del final de la "guerra en el cielo", la fecha del comienzo de la resurrecciÃ³n espiritual y otras cosas). Intentemos hacer una distinciÃ³n. Lo que es importante para nosotros no es necesariamente para JehovÃ¡ Dios - Salmo 55: 8, 9 Seguramente mÃ¡s importante que "1914" es aquel relativo a Babilonia la Grande porque identificar correctamente a la inmensa prostituta puede hacer (y harÃ¡) la diferencia entre la vida y la muerte - compÃ¡rese con Apocalipsis 18: 4. No entender 1914 (si alguna vez se habÃa correcto) pero permanecendo aÃºn vigilante, inmaculado y activo en la predicaciÃ²n, no marcarÃa la diferencia - Mateo 25:22, 23 Si estuviÃ©ramos "escandalizados" por el artÃculo de cronologÃa, tal vez deberÃamos simplemente cambiar la mentalidad. La verdad de la Palabra de Dios debe tener prioridad sobre todas nuestras convicciones, incluso las mÃ¡s arraigadas - Juan 17:17; Hebreos 4:12 Por supuesto, debe haber sido impactante para el pueblo judÃo enterarse de que ya no eran la raza elegida por Dios y que no habÃan entendido o dado importancia a algunas verdades fundamentales. Le habÃan dado al Templo una importancia exagerada (pensando que los protegerÃa como una especie de amuleto) pero no entendÃan ciertos aspectos fundamentales de la venida del MesÃas. Esta "secta" llamada cristianos tuvo que ser muy molesta. Los mismos cristianos de origen judÃo se enfrentaron a un desafÃo cuando vieron que Dios aceptaba personas de otras naciones. Sin embargo, gracias a la bondad inmerecida de Dios, las congregaciones aumentaron en nÃºmero y se hicieron firmes en la fe. Fundamental siempre fue la misma cosa: el amor a la Palabra de Dios - Juan 8:31, 32 Pronto habrÃ¡ otro artÃculo que tocarÃ¡ (esta vez, realmente) una doctrina primaria. Â¿Seremos lo suficientemente honestos para cuestionarnos? Con la Palabra de Dios en la mano ... Â¿nos tomaremos la molestia de leer las Escrituras enumeradas y meditar sobre ellas? Esto demostrarÃ¡ si realmente amamos la Palabra de Dios por encima de nuestra posiciÃ³n y cualquier otra cosa - Salmo 119: 165 Â * Sin embargo, en aquellos dÃas se pensÃ³ que el ArmagedÃ³n iba a estallar en 1914, mientras que paurusia habÃa empezado antes.
By Israeli Bar Avaddhon
La cronologia, lÂ’interpretazione, la speculazione
Â ATTENZIONE La trattazione che segue ridiscuterÃ uno dei "capisaldi" dell'intendimento dello schiavo fedele e discreto. Dal momento che non Ã¨ intenzione dell'autore creare una pietra d'inciampo per nessuno, tantomeno creare divisioni o sette, il lettore Ã¨ invitato a valutare attentamente se desidera proseguire nella lettura. Proseguire o non proseguire, quindi, sarÃ soltanto una decisione personale. Una cosa ancora migliore che potremmo fare tutti: aprire la Bibbia e confrontare tutte le scritture riportate o citate e valutare, in coscienza, se gli argomenti trattati sono logici e coerenti con la Parola di Dio Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Â Â Tutto quello che abbiamo letto in merito alla profezia delle "70 settimane" riportato nel libro "Prestate attenzione alle profezie di Daniele!" (Capitolo 11) Ã¨ meritevole di attenzione e dimostra quanto la parola di Dio sia precisa e affidabile anche quando pronuncia profezie molto distanti nel tempo. EÂ’ stata anche evidente lÂ’accuratezza storica e i numerosi riferimenti scritturali che hanno dato peso e autorevolezza a tutto il discorso. Chiunque si avvicini alla Parola di Dio senza preconcetti non puÃ² che rimanere colpito da tale dimostrazione di potenza e sapienza da parte di Dio. La spiegazione delle 70 settimane Ã¨ ineccepibile ma puÃ² dirsi lo stesso di altre profezie? Che dire di quei calcoli su cui molti di noi hanno basato le speranze di una vita e che si sono scontrati con le critiche della maggioranza? Stiamo parlando del 1914. Anche questa Ã¨ una profezia di Daniele? Anche questa Ã¨ stata trattata con la stessa meravigliosa accuratezza delle settanta settimane di cui abbiamo appena letto? Anche se puÃ² non essere facile, cerchiamo di essere veramente obiettivi perchÃ© comprendere o non comprendere la Profezia, come il resto della Parola di Dio, puÃ² fare molta differenza per il nostro futuro eterno Â– Giovanni 17:3; 2 Tessalonicesi 1:8 Â CHE DIRE DEL 1914? Â Il libro Â“prestate attenzione alle profezie di DanieleÂ” alle pagine da 85 a 97 spiega nei dettagli il sogno di Nabucodonosor e la profezia dei 7 tempi asserendo che essa indichi la venuta del Regno di Dio nel 1914.
Sarebbe profittevole, dunque, prendere il libro e confrontare con ciÃ² che si leggerÃ di seguito.
Il sogno di Nabucodonosor profetizza davvero la venuta del Regno di Dio nel 1914? Â EÂ’ PROPRIO COSIÂ’? Proviamo ad esaminare ciÃ² che c'Ã¨ scritto nel libro senza pregiudizi. Ad una prima lettura sembra che Geova Dio abbia voluto dare una lezione di umiltÃ a Nabucodonosor, cosa che avvenne. I Â“sette tempiÂ”, almeno per lui, furono sette anni e questo Ã¨ confermato da tutto il racconto. Leggendo tutto questo senza preconcetti, non sembra che si debbano cercare altre spiegazioni piÃ¹ o meno nascoste. Comunque prendiamo per buona la tesi secondo cui Â“lÂ’albero indica un dominio e una sovranitÃ molto maggiori di quelli del re di Babilonia. Simboleggia la sovranitÃ universale di Geova, il Re dei cieli, specie rispetto alla terraÂ”. Questo significa, innanzitutto, che il Regno di Dio si stia paragonando, in un certo qual modo, al regno di Babilonia e questo stride con molti passi biblici che descrivono Babilonia come la piÃ¹ grande nemica del popolo di Dio. Significa anche che il Â“vigilanteÂ” (cioÃ¨ un angelo di Geova) decide di abbattere il Regno di Dio e questo Ã¨, a dir poco, strano. Qualcuno obietterÃ che non bisogna cercare similitudini in ogni aspetto della profezia ma anche decidere quale parte della profezia deve avere un secondo adempimento e quale no potrebbe essere abbastanza arbitrario. In fondo non abbiamo altri riferimenti scritturali che ci indichino su quali particolari concentrarci e quali tralasciare. Quindi si sta dicendo che la profezia dellÂ’albero si applica interamente a Nabucodonosor mentre solo una piccola parte si applicherebbe al Regno di Dio. Per la profezia delle Â“settanta settimaneÂ” non abbiamo avuto bisogno di spezzettare la profezia per cercare di capire a chi si applicasse o se si applicasse a piÃ¹ di una persona perchÃ© il soggetto Ã¨ stato chiaro e riconoscibile fin dallÂ’inizio. Tutta la profezia dei 7 tempi, invece, viene edificata su un unico versetto che Ã¨ quello che dice... Â“LÂ’albero crebbe e divenne forte, e la sua medesima altezza raggiunse infine i cieli ed era visibile sino allÂ’estremitÃ dellÂ’intera terraÂ” (Daniele 4:11) Il libro menzionato dice: Â“il grande albero rappresenta il Â‘dominio che raggiunge lÂ’estremitÃ della terraÂ’, che abbraccia lÂ’intero regno del genere umano. PerciÃ² simboleggia la sovranitÃ universale di Geova, particolarmente in relazione alla terra. Â—Â Daniele 4:17Â”. Non Ã¨ un poÂ’ fragile, diciamo rischioso, edificare una serie di profezie (tutte collegate tra loro) su questÂ’unica spiegazione? Notate che la specificazione Â“particolarmente in relazione alla terraÂ” Ã¨ dovuta al fatto che la sovranitÃ universale di Geova Ã¨, appunto, universale, per cui lÂ’albero si sarebbe dovuto vedere non solo in tutta la terra ma in tutto lÂ’universo. Specificando, invece, Â“in relazione alla terraÂ”, possiamo escludere i cieli dalla visione e prendere per buona lÂ’applicazione. Comunque dovremmo farci una domanda. Il fatto che lÂ’albero raggiunga i cieli o lÂ’estremitÃ della terra Ã¨ una dimostrazione o anche solo unÂ’indicazione del fatto che si stia parlando del Regno di Dio? Lasciamo sempre che sia la Bibbia ad illuminarci. Notiamo cosa disse Geova ad Ezechiele in riferimento al Faraone. Ezechiele 31:1-8 dice... Â“E avvenne ancora che nellÂ’undicesimo anno, nel terzo [mese], il primo [giorno] del mese, la parola di Geova mi fu rivolta, dicendo:?Â“Figlio dellÂ’uomo, diÂ’ a Faraone re dÂ’Egitto e alla sua folla: Â“Â‘A chi somigli nella tua grandezza? Ecco, un assiro, un cedro del Libano, dai bei rami, con folte ramificazioni ombrose, e di altezza elevata, tanto che la sua cima era fra le nubi. Le acque lo fecero crescere; le acque dellÂ’abisso lo fecero divenire alto. Con le loro correnti andavano tuttÂ’intorno al luogo dovÂ’era piantato; e mandavano i loro canali a tutti gli alberi del campo. PerciÃ² si fece piÃ¹ elevato in altezza di tutti gli [altri] alberi del campo. Â“Â‘E i suoi rami si moltiplicavano, e i suoi ramoscelli continuarono ad allungarsi a causa della molta acqua nei suoi corsi dÂ’acqua.?Sui suoi rami fecero i loro nidi tutte le creature volatili dei cieli, e sotto i suoi ramoscelli partorirono tutte le bestie selvagge del campo, e alla sua ombra dimoravano tutte le popolose nazioni. E divenne bello nella sua grandezza, nella lunghezza del suo fogliame, poichÃ© il suo sistema di radici era su molte acque.?[Altri] cedri non lo uguagliavano nel giardino di Dio. In quanto ai ginepri, non avevano alcuna somiglianza con i suoi rami. E i platani stessi non gli erano simili nei ramoscelli. Nessun [altro] albero del giardino di Dio gli somigliava per bellezzaÂ”. Notiamo qualche similitudine con la visione di Nabucodonosor? Entrambi sono paragonati ad alti e possenti alberi. Entrambi raggiungono altezze elevate, fino al cielo infatti le espressioni Â“raggiungere i cieliÂ” o Â“raggiungere le nubiÂ” sono equivalenti Â– Confronta Giobbe 22:14; Isaia 14:14; Daniele 7:13 Di entrambi si nota la grande differenza con gli altri alberi. Di entrambi si dice che tutte le creature volatili e tutte le bestie selvagge trovano cibo e riparo. Ora, se applicassimo il principio secondo cui lÂ’albero che Â“raggiunge le nubiÂ” deve raffigurare il Regno di Dio, allora anche lÂ’impero Egiziano dovrebbe essere un antitipo del Regno. Purtroppo, perÃ², in questo racconto non si fa alcuna menzione dei Â“tempiÂ” e di conseguenza non Ã¨ possibile contare alcunchÃ©. Se pensate che sia ridicolo pensare che lÂ’impero egiziano possa raffigurare il Regno di Dio, perchÃ© dovrebbe essere accettabile lÂ’impero Babilonese? Â Geova continua dicendo Â“Per la ragione che divenisti di altezza elevata, cosÃ¬ che esso mise la sua cima perfino tra le nubi e il suo cuore si esaltÃ² a causa della sua altezza,?anchÂ’io lo darÃ² in mano al despota delle nazioniÂ” Â– Ezechiele 31:10, 11 Il Faraone si esaltÃ², esattamente come fece Nabucodonosor, e per questo motivo Dio decise di umiliarlo Â– Matteo 23:12 Nabucodonosor se la cavÃ² con sette anni di pazzia mentre lÂ’impero di Faraone venne assediato. Anche questo versetto rimarca il fatto che Dio toglie e da Â“il regno a chi vuoleÂ” (e in questo caso Egli diede il regno di Faraone al Â“despota delle nazioniÂ”). Ezechiele 31:12-14 prosegue... Â“Ed estranei, i tiranni delle nazioni, lo taglieranno, e il popolo lÂ’abbandonerÃ sui monti; e il suo fogliame certamente cadrÃ in tutte le valli, e i suoi rami si romperanno fra tutti i letti dei corsi dÂ’acqua della terra. E tutti i popoli della terra scenderanno dalla sua ombra e lÂ’abbandoneranno. Sul suo tronco caduto risiederanno tutte le creature volatili dei cieli, e sui suoi ramoscelli saranno certamente tutte le bestie selvagge del campo;?affinchÃ© nessuno degli alberi irrigati divenga elevato in altezza, o metta la sua cima anche fra le nubi, e perchÃ© nessuno che beve acqua stia in piedi contro di loro nella sua altezza, poichÃ© certamente saranno tutti dati alla morte, alla terra di sotto, in mezzo ai figli del genere umano, a quelli che scendono nella fossaÂ’Â”. Anche questo albero viene abbattuto e umiliato (Geova farÃ questo attraverso il re di Babilonia). A motivo delle tante similitudini con il regno dÂ’Egitto, siamo davvero certi che lÂ’albero che Â“raggiunse i cieliÂ” si riferisca al Regno di Dio?
Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Quando si tratta del 1914, siamo davvero come i bereani? O siamo "bereani" solo quando dobbiamo confutare le dottrine della cristianitÃ ?
CÂ’Ã¨ un altro particolare interessante il quale dovrebbe farci riflettere. La Bibbia paragona i cieli ai governi, siano essi umani o celesti. Applicando questo concetto allÂ’albero che raggiunge i cieli e i cui altri alberi non reggono il confronto con esso, significherebbe semplicemente che questo albero ha il regno sopra gli altri regni (piÃ¹ piccoli) e di Babilonia la Grande si dice, appunto, che Â“ha il regno sopra i re della terraÂ” Â– Rivelazione 17:18 LÂ’unico parallelismo legittimo che si puÃ² fare con Babilonia, senza timore di prendere cantonate, Ã¨ quello relativo a Babilonia la Grande perchÃ© Ã¨ il parallelismo che fa la Bibbia. In effetti tutti gli imperi mondiali menzionati nelle Scritture hanno avuto, per un certo periodo, il regno sopra gli altri regni. Ciro disse infatti di se stesso... Â“Io sono Ciro, re del mondo, gran re, re legittimo, re di Babilonia, re di Sumer e Akkad, re delle quattro estremitÃ (della terra), figlio di Cambise (Ka-am-bu-zi-ia), gran re, re di Anzan, nipote di CiroÂ , .Â .Â . discendente di Teispe, .Â .Â . di una famiglia (che) ha sempre regnatoÂ”. (Ancient Near Eastern Texts, a cura di J.Â B. Pritchard, 1974, p.Â 316) Sicuramente lÂ’umiltÃ non era una caratteristica apprezzata dai persiani come neppure dai babilonesi ma di fatto il regno ebbe il potere sugli altri regni conosciuti (tanto da definirsi Â“re delle quattro estremitÃ della terraÂ”) e quindi si poteva ben dire che la sua altezza aveva raggiunto i cieli ed era visibile o conosciuto fino alle estremitÃ della terra. Nel racconto di Ezechiele e in quello di Daniele non cÂ’Ã¨ alcun riferimento, proprio nessuno, al Regno di Dio anzi... entrambi i resoconti menzionano un giudizio da parte di Dio su nazioni nemiche, orgogliose e violente. Ogni eventuale calcolo cronologico dovrebbe rispettare il soggetto in essere ed infatti questa parte della Scrittura Ã¨ ben diversa da ciÃ² che si dice in merito alle Â“settanta settimaneÂ” Â– Daniele 9:24-27 Nel resoconto di Daniele capitolo 9 si parla chiaramente del Messia (vedi Daniele 9:25) e non Ã¨ necessario leggere ciÃ² che non Ã¨ scritto. Chiunque volesse essere polemico potrebbe discutere sulla data di inizio da cui contare le Â“settimaneÂ” o anche sul metodo addotto* (un giorno per un anno) ma di certo non si puÃ² discutere del soggetto in essere (il Messia). Si potrebbe, per assurdo, anche discutere su chi fosse veramente il Messia (cosa su cui discutono ancora gli ebrei) ma di certo non si puÃ² discutere che Daniele capitolo 9 parli dellÂ’arrivo del Messia! Invece Daniele capitolo 4 parla di Nabucodonosor e del suo regno, mentre tutto Â“lÂ’intendimentoÂ” relativo al Regno di Dio Ã¨ costruito su quattro righe riportate nel libro Â“Prestate attenzione alle profezie di Daniele!Â” che recitano: Â“Ma il grande albero rappresenta il dominio che raggiunge lÂ’estremitÃ della terra, che abbraccia lÂ’intero regno del genere umano. PerciÃ² simboleggia la sovranitÃ universale di Geova, particolarmente in relazione alla terra. - Daniele 4:17Â” (capitolo 6, pagina 87 dellÂ’edizione italiana del libro). Non sembra unÂ’affermazione molto decisa con una base molto debole? Cerchiamo di non far dire a Daniele 4:17 quello che in realtÃ non dice perchÃ© basta conoscere le regole base della grammatica per non distrarsi dal soggetto. Il soggetto Ã¨ Nabucodonosor e Dio gli fa comprendere che, a motivo del fatto che si Ã¨ esaltato, gli avrebbe tolto il regno e lÂ’avrebbe dato a chiunque Egli avesse voluto (esattamente come Egli fece con Faraone). In pratica Colui che governa davvero Ã¨ il Creatore e gli altri regni esistono soltanto perchÃ© Lui lo permette Â– Confronta Romani 13:1 Quindi non cÂ’Ã¨ alcun motivo per ritenere che lÂ’albero (cioÃ¨ uno dei tanti governi che Geova ha permesso nella storia del genere umano), rappresenti in realtÃ il Regno di Dio. Se qualcuno vuole insinuare che il fatto che Dio menzioni il Suo dominio sia indicativo che lÂ’albero stesso raffiguri il Suo dominio (ed Ã¨ unÂ’acrobazia semantica incredibile) allora possiamo prendere il racconto riportato in 2 Re 19:14-19 e fare lo stesso ragionamento. Â“Ezechia prese quindi le lettere dalla mano dei messaggeri e le lesse, dopo di che Ezechia salÃ¬ alla casa di Geova e le stese dinanzi a Geova. 15?Ed Ezechia pregava dinanzi a Geova e diceva: Â“O Geova, Dio dÂ’Israele, che siedi sui cherubini, tu solo sei il [vero] Dio di tutti i regni della terra. Tu stesso hai fatto i cieli e la terra. 16?Porgi il tuo orecchio, o Geova, e odi. Apri i tuoi occhi, o Geova, e vedi, e odi le parole di Sennacherib che egli ha mandato per biasimare lÂ’Iddio vivente. 17?Ãˆ un fatto, o Geova, che i re dÂ’Assiria hanno devastato le nazioni e il loro paese. 18?E hanno consegnato i loro dÃ¨i al fuoco, perchÃ© non erano dÃ¨i, ma lÂ’opera delle mani dellÂ’uomo, legno e pietra; cosÃ¬ che li hanno distrutti. 19?E ora, o Geova nostro Dio, salvaci, ti prego, dalla sua mano, affinchÃ© tutti i regni della terra conoscano che tu solo, o Geova, sei DioÂ”. Ezechia sapeva benissimo che Geova era Â“il vero Dio di tutti i regni della terraÂ” e pregÃ² affinchÃ© Sennacherib venisse fermato nel suo intento di distruggere Gerusalemme. Sappiamo benissimo quale fu la risposta di Isaia la quale ultima parte recita... Â“PerchÃ© il tuo eccitarti contro di me e il tuo ruggire sono saliti ai miei orecchi. E certamente ti metterÃ² il mio uncino al naso e il mio freno fra le labbra, E in realtÃ ti ricondurrÃ² per la via per la quale sei venutoÂ” - 2 Re 19:28 Se facessimo lo stesso ragionamento addotto per il capitolo 4 di Daniele, allora potremmo supporre che anche il Â“regno di SennacheribÂ” era un antitipo del regno di Dio perchÃ© anche lui dovette imparare (a sue spese) che Geova Ã¨ Â“il vero Dio di tutti i regni della terraÂ” o, detto in altre parole Â“domina su tutto il genere umanoÂ”. Purtroppo anche in questo racconto non ci sono numeri, giorni, settimane o mesi da calcolare e quindi nessun motivo per leggere Â“venuta del regno di DioÂ” anche dove non se ne fa alcuna menzione. EÂ’ possibile che il forte desiderio di veder adempiersi le profezie abbia influito sullÂ’intendimento e quindi abbia spinto a leggere quello che in realtÃ non era scritto? Questo significa che, se proprio si volesse vedere un secondo adempimento al racconto riportato in Daniele capitolo 4, si dovrebbe rispettare il soggetto in essere e cioÃ¨ Babilonia. Ãˆ probabile che il racconto di Daniele stia semplicemente raccontando lÂ’umiliazione di Nabucodonosor e che i Â“sette tempiÂ” significhino soltanto sette anni ma non possiamo essere categorici. A questo riguardo Ã¨ utile riflettere sul fatto che anche lÂ’umiliazione del Faraone, riportata in Ezechiele, potrebbe avere un secondo adempimento in quanto Geova dice che Â“scrollerÃ le nazioniÂ” e questo potrebbe essere un riferimento alla guerra di Armaghedon. Quindi, senza fissarci troppo con una data specifica, nel caso in cui il racconto di Daniele avesse voluto indicarci un secondo adempimento della profezia, il resoconto sta in realtÃ dicendo: Â“Babilonia cadrÃ , rimarrÃ inattiva per sette tempi e poi risorgerÃ Â”. Questo non puÃ² che riportare la nostra mente allÂ’ultima menzione che la Bibbia fa di Babilonia Â– Rivelazione 17:5 Gli indizi relativi a Babilonia la Grande ci hanno portato alla nazione dÂ’Israele quindi la domanda che dovremmo farci Ã¨... Â“Da che anno dovremmo iniziare a contare i 2520 anni (cioÃ¨ 360*7) fino a vedere la rinascita (eventuale) di Babilonia?Â” Dal racconto di Daniele le date possibili da cui partire per contare i sette tempi sono due: 1) Da quando Nabucodonosor ha avuto la visione o Ã¨ caduto in Â“disgraziaÂ” (infatti Daniele dice Â“lÂ’albero sei tuÂ” Â– Daniele 4:20-22) 2) Dalla morte di Nabucodonosor (se Nabucodonosor rappresenta il regno di Babilonia, la sua morte Ã¨ il momento in cui lÂ’albero viene Â“abbattutoÂ” ma Ã¨ da notare che non cÂ’Ã¨ alcun riferimento a questo nella narrazione di Daniele il quale, anzi, dice che il regno gli sarebbe stato assicurato Â– Daniele 4:26) Â Per quanto riguarda la prima ipotesi Ã¨ impossibile avere una data accurata in quanto nÃ© la Bibbia nÃ© la storia secolare ci dicono in quale anno Nabucodonosor venne cacciato dal suo regno. CiÃ² avvenne, ovviamente, dopo il 597 a.E.V. (anno in cui Nabucodonosor porta i primi prigionieri Giudei a Babilonia secondo la datazione secolare; cÂ’Ã¨ una differenza di 20 anni con quella dello schiavo che, infatti, mette il 617 a.E.V.) ed entro il 570 a.E.V. (se Nabucodonosor muore nel 562 a.E.V. - sempre secondo la data secolare - e il periodo di Â“cattivitÃ Â” dura 7 anni e il regno gli viene restituito si presume che esso abbia regnato per almeno un anno, il 570 Ã¨ lÂ’ultimo anno utile). Comunque nei primi quattro capitoli di Daniele si menzionano Daniele, Sadrac, Mesac e Abednego prima come fanciulli (Daniele 1:3, 4) e successivamente come uomini robusti (Daniele 3:12, 27) e tutto questo prima che Nabucodonosor abbia il famoso sogno dellÂ’albero. Questo significa che, dalla loro deportazione fino al giorno in cui il re eresse lÂ’immagine dÂ’oro, passarono almeno 15, 20 anni. Quindi se gli ebrei sono giunti a Babilonia nel 597 a.E.V. ma passano 20 ventÂ’anni prima della costruzione dellÂ’idolo dÂ’oro e avendo presa per buona la data secolare (562 a.E.V) Ã¨ possibile restringere il periodo dal 577 a.E.V. fino al 570 a.E.V. Ovviamente sono solo stime ma la data importante Ã¨ il limite massimo di tempo (il 570 a.E.V) per cui se dalla deportazione fino alla costruzione dellÂ’immagine fossero passati 15 anni anzichÃ© 20, la data di inizio sarebbe il 582 a.E.V. ma lÂ’ultima data utile possibile sarebbe sempre il 570 a.E.V. LÂ’eventuale rinascita di Babilonia, se di questo sta parlando Daniele, cosa tuttÂ’altro che certa, sarebbe avvenuta tra il 1943 E.V. (2520-577) e il 1950 E.V. (2520-570). A rafforzare questa ipotesi ci sarebbe anche il fatto che la narrazione della sua cacciata Ã¨ lÂ’ultimo racconto riferito a Nabucodonosor. Pochi versetti dopo, infatti, non si parla piÃ¹ di lui ma di Baldassarre (Daniele cap. 5). EÂ’ ragionevole concludere, quindi, che Nabucodonosor ebbe la visione negli ultimi anni, forse durante lÂ’ultimo decennio del suo regno. Â La seconda ipotesi riguarda la morte di Nabucodonosor la quale avviene, secondo le fonti secolari, nel 562 a.E.V. Secondo lo schiavo avviene invece nel 582 a.E.V. (vedi il libro Â“Prestate attenzione alle profezie di DanieleÂ” capitolo 7, pagina 99). Contando 2520 anni si arriva al 1958 E.V. nel primo caso e al 1938 E.V. nel secondo caso. Â Cosa ci dice la storia recente? Se, come abbiamo visto, Babilonia la Grande Ã¨ la nazione dÂ’Israele questo avvalorerebbe la prima ipotesi. La prima ipotesi colloca la rinascita di Babilonia tra il 1943 e il 1950. La Â“risurrezioneÂ” di Israele avviene, infatti, nel maggio 1948. Conoscendo la fissazione degli esseri umani per le date e i calcoli, perÃ², Ã¨ prudente prestare attenzione alle cose piÃ¹ importanti. Le date secolari non possono essere sicure, basandosi su reperti e confronti piÃ¹ o meno lacunosi, e di certo non possiamo basare la nostra fede su questo Â– 2 Corinti 5:7 Cosa accadrebbe se il 597 a.E.V., cosÃ¬ come il 607 o il 537 o qualsiasi altra data su cui abbiamo basato gran parte delle profezie bibliche (senza che ci fosse una vero motivo per farlo) domani si dimostrasse completamente errato? Le conseguenze potrebbero essere molto serie e non solo da un punto di vista umano Â– Amos 3:1, 2 Non dobbiamo prendere per scontata la misericordia di Geova per cui dobbiamo essere prudenti nelle nostre affermazioni. Dal momento che non abbiamo alcuna certezza che i Â“sette tempiÂ” non raffigurino semplicemente sette anni, non dovremmo perderci in queste speculazioni. La cosa piÃ¹ importante non Ã¨ forse comprendere lÂ’identitÃ di Babilonia la Grande? Questo Ã¨ un aspetto cruciale della profezia perchÃ© sono gli indizi a guidarci nei soggetti e nei tempi in cui stiamo vivendo, come dei segnali stradali, e non i calcoli Â– Confronta Matteo 24:32, 33 e 2 Timoteo 3:1-5 e fai un contrasto con Matteo 24:36 Non cÂ’Ã¨ alcuna indicazione temporale per lÂ’uccisione dei due testimoni vestiti di sacco (vedi Rivelazione cap. 11) ma sappiamo che essi si rivelano alla fine della guerra. Sappiamo che la cittÃ chiamata Â“Sodoma ed EgittoÂ” Ã¨ Babilonia la Grande, quindi Israele, e di conseguenza sappiamo anche quale nazione e quali avvenimenti osservare con attenzione. Che la Bibbia profetizzi effettivamente lÂ’anno della sua Â“risurrezioneÂ” oppure no, Ã¨ sicuramente interessante ma non fondamentale per chi crede che Essa Ã¨ davvero lÂ’ispirata Parola di Dio. Fondamentale, semmai, sarÃ Â“uscire da essaÂ” quando lÂ’ONU si preparerÃ a distruggerla. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â Â * Comunque la Bibbia conferma il metodo Â“un giorno per un annoÂ” e anche che questo era lo stesso metodo utilizzato dal popolo di Dio Â– Ezechiele 4:6; Luca 3:15 Â Altri argomenti e informazioni, per chi volesse approfondire, sono disponibili al seguente indirizzo Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Â
By Israeli Bar Avaddhon
We will recognize the man of lawlessness? "He stands in opposition and exalts himself above all that is called" god "or object of reverence, so that he sits in the temple of God, showing publicly that you are a god" - 2 Thessalonians 2: 4 Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. We are searching the scriptures carefully? Â The title of the article might seem strange. We all know, in fact, that the man of lawlessness is the apostate Christendom, that is, all those who have taught lies about the nature and teachings of Jesus Christ. Obviously this also includes those, individuals or groups, who do not call themselves religious but to some extent spread lies about the Word of God. These apostate religious organizations became extremely evident by the death of the last apostle onwards. It even seems amazing the short amount of time that was necessary to this extent to adulterate every single teaching of the Lord and remain, in the eyes of the individual observers, "the people of God." At the end of the second century AD, there was probably a single truly Christian teaching. Every Christian, today, taking for granted that it is that person who will study the Bible diligently, should not make it hard to distinguish the man of lawlessness, the subject also called "anti-Christ" by the Apostle John - 1 John 2 : 18 So why such a title? What we risk not recognizing in the end time? We will address this topic starting from afar because the assumptions are not born from nothing; they are due, very often, partial or incorrect interpretation of some scriptures. Scriptural steps that, at least in appearance, could got to do little or nothing to do with the subject matter. Â Who makes up the "temple of God"? "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God , and that the spirit of God dwells in you?" - 1 Corinthians 3:16 "What! Do you not know that the body of you is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, which ye have of God? And you do not belong to yourselves, for you were bought with a price. By all means, glorify God in your body "- 1 Corinthians 6:19, 20 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? Because we are the temple of the living God ; as God said, "I will dwell among them and walk among [them], and I will be their God, and they shall be my people" - 2 Corinthians 6:16 Reading these scriptures it is evident that the "temple of God" to which we refer is the congregation of anointed Christians with the Spirit. So, if we connect the base writing this article with these other scriptures, it is evident that "the man of lawlessness" would be taken over to true worship. Indeed, it would be just risen from true worship - Compare Acts 30:29, 30 If we just consider these writings, the man of lawlessness was born in the first century (in fact, the apostolo Paolo said that he was already at work) has operated in the past two millennia, causing confusion and pain to sincere seekers of truth and now just waiting for destruction by the UN (that, according to the current understanding - see footnote) *. We should not expect anything, no twist, and it's hard to imagine that some Christians may still be misled by this entity. How could, in fact, a careful student of the Word of God, suddenly believing that God is a Trinity, that Mary is the Mother "of God," that He created the fiery hell or limbo or any other "amenities" that Christianity teaches? In the past it was very difficult to get a Bible that was almost certain to rely on those who claimed to teach. If a Minister of Christianity had taught any of the above mentioned doctrines, how could you deny whether he had a Bible in hand? So we should take note that this man of lawlessness has effectively acted in the past ... but now has had its day. Anyone with a Bible in the house, while not coming to realize everything, will certainly understand that many doctrines taught by the church are simply false. It's really like this? If the understanding about the man of lawlessness was only partial, we risk not to be complacent dangerously? Â " ... as to mislead, if possible, even the elect" - Matthew 24:24 We reflect on the words of the Lord. In his description relative to the last days He mentioned false Christs and false prophets, and clearly pointed to the possibility of being misled. But, as we said before, how can we be led astray today? It is not hard to imagine how this could happen in the Middle Ages or in any other age. In the recent past there have been many people who have claimed to be the Messiah or some other prophet with some "new message" to bring humanity - compares Galatians 1: 8 Many older or newer religions trace their beliefs in one of these characters and messages and then we can say that the man of lawlessness is continuing to act ... but what about true Christians? How many of us would listen to a person, no matter how charismatic, if it said to be the Christ or have a new message for humanity? It is very unlikely to happen something like that and not because we are better than others, but simply because the truth of God's Word protects us - Ecclesiastes 7:12 How, today, the man of lawlessness, at least potentially mislead even the elect? For this to happen, we must at least accept the possibility that behind these words there is something more and perhaps our current understanding on the man of lawlessness is not complete . There are other scriptures that can shed light on this subject? Â Let us scrutinize the Scriptures carefully We start from a logical assumption. We said that the man of lawlessness is the clergy of Christendom and this article is not intended in any way to refute this profound truth - 1 John 2:22, 23 Since we're talking about two different subjects , we should not expect to find the scriptures that refute what has been said. The purpose of this discussion is to understand if what we know about the man of lawlessness is complete or whether it can have a second commitment, a sort of "final revelation", something that we would not expect. A change of skin that they can mislead anyone, even the people of God - Compare Matthew 7:22 The writing of 2 Thessalonians 2: 4 says that the man of lawlessness would "sit in the temple of God," but in always the same Bible writer "what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? "- 2 Corinthians 6:14 The questions are rhetorical and cause to reflect. The answer is: no. So if the "temple of God" mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2: 4 it has to do with the congregation of anointed Christians, temple built on the truth, that is, on the foundation of Christ and the apostles , how can it sit there? - Compare Ephesians 2:19, 20 " Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, "I will dwell among them and walk among [them], and I will be their God, and they shall be my people" - 2 Corinthians 6:15, 16 According to rhetorical questions contained in 2 Corinthians, it understands very well that the Temple of God remains so until it has nothing to do with lies, with idols, with Belial. So Let us go back the question: if the man of lawlessness is a fraud just based on lies, on idols, on the teaching Satan himself, how can "sit" in the temple of God? If the temple of God, even in this context, is built on Christ and on the Apostles, this is just not possible. It 'true that this temple may need an adjustment and discipline because of errors, doctrinal or otherwise but it can not be based on falsehood - See Revelation 11: 1 We must also note that there is no difference from being part of the temple of God and sit in the temple of God. Although the differences may seem minimal (and it is obvious that this is so because, as we said, we're not talking about two completely separate subjects), this is not a semantic game. Consider Daniel 11:45. Speaking of the last ruling king, that is, the one who will win the war against the king of the south, is said to "plant the tents of his palace between [the] grand sea and the holy Adornment mountain". Again, although there was no talk of the temple of God , mentioning the "holy Adornment mountain" is generally thought to be referred to true worship. It is certainly true that this king will interfere with true worship going so far as to throw it to the ground completely (Daniel 8:12) but it is to this that Daniel was referring to in this scripture ? The question that should come to mind is ... "If the Adornment mountain depicts the congregation of anointed Christians (or God's people in general),Â what does it represent the great sea?". If we read just what it says, it does not seem truly and simply a geographical indication? The great sea is the Mediterranean and the Adornment Mount is Mount Moriah. Geographical indication but has important implications. Is not our entrenched belief that Jerusalem has no longer any importance in the fulfillment of the prophecies to push reading "worship" instead of simply "upstream of Adornment"? If accept this possibility, here the writing of 2 Thessalonians 2: 4 immediately takes on another meaning. He "sits in the temple of God, showing publicly that you are a god," and there is no need to read what is not written - Compare Daniel 11: 36-39 This writing also is fulfilled in the end time, does not it? Now, if we're talking about the man of lawlessness as we have known so far, in what sense will put his tent in the Adornment mount? It would not have interfered in true worship, pretending to it, in the past two thousand years? But we know that Daniel is talking about the last king, which is a political and military power, not a religion or group of religions. Yet it is this power that "will not consider the god of his fathers ... and magnify himself on anyone" (thus also on any other god). We take the words of the Lord that mention the false prophet. " For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets shall show great signs and wonders to mislead, if possible, even the elect" - Matthew 24:24 Other translations reported "signs and wonders" . False Christs are associated with signs and wonders and all this in the last few days so all the theories that these signs would have to deal with the humanitarian works (such as building hospitals, orphanages, etc.) die at birth. Jesus speaks of signs and wonders and the only apparent miracles they may mislead the elect. If none of us would be willing to go behind the first psychopath who assert to be Christ, what about someone who can do great signs and wonders, to create visions from heaven, or things like that? Before you think this is nonsense let's see what he has to tell us another inspired book about the time of the end: Revelation. " And I saw another wild beast ascending from the earth, and he had two horns like [those of] a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And it exercises all the authority of the first wild beast in front of that. It causes the earth and those who dwell therein to worship the first wild beast, whose deadly wound was healed. It performs great signs, so as to even call down fire from heaven to earth in front of the human race. It misleads those who dwell on the earth because of the signs that she was allowed to take ... "- Revelation 13: 11-14 What "signs" are allowed to have this beast? If we try to forget what we have been taught about this subject , it does not seem that the writings of Daniel, Matthew and 2 Thessalonians are connected? Is it not all about the false prophet and false worship? They do not talk all the time of the end? Do not mention the attack all the people of God? The beast with two horns lamb of Revelation is also called "false prophet" so connection would be too obvious if we were not convinced that the false religion is represented by another subject. The fact that he has two horns lamb should bring us back to the true Lamb and that it should be equally clear that it refers to a false Christ, a religious deception. It should also be clear that the same mark of the beast is opposed to the seal given to the elect - Compare Revelation 13:11 with Revelation 14: 1 in ; Revelation 13:16 with Revelation 14: 1b In fact, the contrast is emphasized in Revelation is among those who follow the Lamb and who follows the false prophet. The apostle Paul also in the writing guide of this article, mentions "the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together unto him" and then well understand the reference time period. He says that "before" should be illegal but it meant two thousand years ago? Whatever our idea, so let's see what happens near the "ingathering with him", ie near the heavenly resurrection. Revelation 11:15 says, "And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And there were loud voices in heaven, saying: "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign for ever and ever" (see also 1 Corinthians 15:51, 52) What happens in the vicinity of this crucial event? As it happens, it appears just the false prophet - See Revelation 13:11 The scriptures are a lot and those who read the writing without injury can not consider them random - Matthew 11:25 To understand properly the revelation of man of lawlessness, it will allow us to be prepared when they appear to deflect all humanity. Obviously from there arise many questions. What kind of signs and wonders will accomplish and how it will be possible? When it will make its appearance? If it is a religious deception as it can also be a king, or a political power? It was only the apostles to act as a restraint in the first century or there's just one restriction that will be "removed" to allow the complete revelation of the man of lawlessness? Who acts as a restriction in the end time? All these questions were dealt with in the following items. " This requires that we pay more than the usual attention to the things heard, that we never driven along" - Hebrews 2: 1 Â Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. We will recognize the man of lawlessness to its final revelation? Â Â Â
By JW Insider
Even before C.T.Russell was born, commentaries on Bible prophecy included dozens of potential dates. Nearly 200 years ago, a couple of them even included 1914 as potentially significant time period. The "1914 presence" doctrine, however, is only about 75 years old.
All the ideas behind the Watch Tower's version of the 1914 doctrine have already been discussed for decades now, and all of them, so far, have been shown to be problematic from a Scriptural point of view. Since the time that the doctrine generally took its current shape in 1943, the meanings and applications of various portions of Matthew 24 and 25 have already been changed, and the timing of various prophesied events and illustrations have changed. Most recently, the meaning and identification of the "faithful and discreet slave" has changed. And the definition of "generation" has changed about half-a-dozen times. This doesn't mean that the current understandings are impossible, of course, only that it has become less likely from the point of view of reason and reasonableness.
Besides, for most of the years of teaching this doctrine, we have had the flexibility of extending the "1914 generation" from a possible 40 years, up to 70, then 75, then 80 years. And this has been applied to teenagers who saw 1914, 10-year-olds who saw 1914, then even newborns who saw 1914. With every one of these options already tried and stretched to their limits, we finally were forced to convert the meaning of generation from its most common meanings and give it a new "strained" meaning that has no other Biblical parallel. (See Exodus 1:6; Matthew 1:17; 16:4; 23:36; Luke 11:50)
But that flexibility is still seen as the last reason for hope that the Watch Tower Society might have still been correct in hanging on to 1914. Since the Bible says that a lifespan is 70 or 80 years and 1914 + 80 = 1994, the "generation" doctrine in its original form (1943) could remain stable until about 1994. Of course, a lifespan could technically reach to 120 years or more, and Gen 6:3 even gives vague support to the idea that the "1914 generation" could last 120 years, until 2034.
The current alternative solution is to make the generation out of the length of two lifespans, which technically could be double 120 years, or nearly 240 years from 1914. That would have had the potential to reach to the year 2154 (1914+240) except for the caveat that it can, by its new definition, only refer to anointed persons who discerned the sign in 1914 and whose lives overlapped (technically, by as little as one second) with the lifespan of another anointed person representing the second group. If persons from each group don't really discern their own "anointing" until age 20, for example, this would effectively remove 40 years from the overall maximum. 1914+120-20+120-20 = 2114. We could also assume a possible lifespan of more than 120 years, but otherwise, the new two-lifespan generation could potentially make the generation last 200 years. This "technical maximum" is not promoted currently, because for now we look at examples like Fred Franz who was part of that original generation already anointed and who saw the sign, and the typical example of an anointed brother who was apparently "anointed" prior to Franz' death in 1992 would be someone like Governing Body member, Brother Sanderson, who was born in 1965, baptized in 1975, and was already a "special pioneer" in 1991. His is currently 52.
However, the generation problem is just one more problem now which we can add onto the list of all the other points that make up the 1914 doctrine. Here are several points related to 1914 that appear problematic from a Scriptural point of view:
All evidence shows the 1914 date is wrong when trying to base it on the destruction of Jerusalem. (Daniel 1:1; 2 Chron 36:1-22; Jer 25:8-12; Zech 1:12, 7:4; Ezra 3:10-13) Paul said that Jesus sat at God's right hand in the first century and that he already began ruling as king at that time. (1 Cor 15:25) Jesus said not to be fooled by the idea that wars and rumors of wars would be the start of a "sign" (Matt 24:4,5) Jesus said that the "parousia" would be as visible as lightning (Matt 24:27). He spoke against people who might say he had returned but was currently not visible. (Matt 24:23-26) Jesus said that his "parousia" would come as a surprise to the faithful, not that they would discern the time of the parousia decades in advance. (Matt 24:36-42) Jesus said that the kingdom would not be indicated by "signs" (Luke 17:20, almost any translation except NWT in this case) The "synteleia" (end of all things together) refers to a concluding event, not an extended period of time (Matt 28:20) Jesus was already called ruler, King and even "King of Kings" in the first century. (1 Tim 6:15, Heb 7:2,17; Rev 1:5; 17:14) Wicked, beastly King Nebuchadnezzar's insanity and humiliation does not represent Jesus as the "lowliest one of mankind." (Heb 1:5,6; 2:10,11; Daniel 4:23-25; cf. Heb 2:7; 1 Pet 3:17,18) The demise of a Gentile kingdom cannot rightly represent the time of the rise of the Gentile kingdoms (Daniel 4:26,27) The Gentile kings did not meet their demise in 1914. (Rev 2:25,26) The time assigned to the Gentile Times that Jesus spoke about in Luke 21:24 is already given as 3.5 times, not 7 times (Revelation 11:2,3) The Devil was already brought down from "heaven" in the first century. (1 John 2:14,15; 1 Pet 5:8; Luke 10:18; Heb 2:14) The Bible says that the "last days" began in the first century. (Acts 2:14-20; 2 Tim 3:1-17; 1 Peter 3:3-5; Heb 1:2, almost any translation except NWT in this case.)
By Albert Michelson
What is the good news?
The Bible is clear that even if someone had been clearly selected by god if they deviate from the truth they are to be rejected.
Galatians 1:8-9 However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said above, I also now say again, Whoever it is that is declaring to YOU as good news something beyond what YOU accepted, let him be accursed.
This holds even more weight for ones like the GB who are not clearly selected and who's claim to authority rests solely on a demonstrably false interpretation of scripture.
The organization claims that the 1914 teaching is necessary for salvation and even goes as far as to claim that the 1914 teaching is the good news spoken of in the Bible.
*** w67 12/15 pp. 753-754 pars. 3-4 What Now Distinguishes the Good News to Be Preached ***
"What a joy-inspiring addition or enlargement to the good news now to be preached! Now has come the victorious kingdom of our God together with the authority of his Christ, his Messiah! As for Satan the Devil and his demons, they have only a short period of time until they are bound and imprisoned in the abyss after the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Armageddon. All this additional wonderful information has been true since the end of the “appointed times of the nations” in 1914, and particularly since World War I closed in the year 1918. Not before the “appointed times of the nations” ended in the fall of 1914 could the good news be preached of the newborn, established heavenly kingdom of God and of his Messiah. This, then, must be the good news that Jesus Christ in his prophecy said had to be preached first in all the nations. (Mark 13:10) This generation of human society that has seen and experienced the world events since the Gentile Times closed in 1914—this is the “generation” that will not pass away until all the things foretold have happened, including the preaching of the good news first in all nations.
4 Jesus’ prophecy in Mark 13:10, “Also, in all the nations the good news has to be preached first,” has not been undergoing fulfillment during the past nineteen centuries. It is only since the second decade of our twentieth century that this prophecy has been undergoing fulfillment. This began to be realized by the International Bible Students Association and the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society since the end of the second decade of our century. In the magazine issue of July 1, 1920, of The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence the article was published entitled “Gospel of the Kingdom” and based on the theme text, “‘And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.’—Matthew 24:14.”
It is for this reason that the organization is chained to the 1914 teaching. As the scripture I quoted above demonstrates the Bible says that one who teaches a good news that is false is cursed. If the organization admits that the 1914 and 1919 teachings are false they will have to admit that not only were they not selected as gods channel but that they have been teaching a false good news for the majority of their existence. It is for that reason that they disfellowship and shun people who cannot conscientiously remain in the faith. It's easier to just eliminate the opposition then to actually address the real issues with your theology.
*** w86 4/1 pp. 30-31 Questions From Readers ***
Why have Jehovah’s Witnesses disfellowshipped (excommunicated) for apostasy some who still profess belief in God, the Bible, and Jesus Christ?
"Approved association with Jehovah’s Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses. What do such beliefs include?
That the great issue before humankind is the rightfulness of Jehovah’s sovereignty, which is why he has allowed wickedness so long. (Ezekiel 25:17) That Jesus Christ had a prehuman existence and is subordinate to his heavenly Father. (John 14:28) That there is a “faithful and discreet slave” upon earth today ‘entrusted with all of Jesus’ earthly interests,’ which slave is associated with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. (Matthew 24:45-47) That 1914 marked the end of the Gentile Times and the establishment of the Kingdom of God in the heavens, as well as the time for Christ’s foretold presence. (Luke 21:7-24; Revelation 11:15–12:10) That only 144,000 Christians will receive the heavenly reward. (Revelation 14:1, 3) That Armageddon, referring to the battle of the great day of God the Almighty, is near. (Revelation 16:14, 16; 19:11-21) That it will be followed by Christ’s Millennial Reign, which will restore an earth-wide paradise. That the first to enjoy it will be the present “great crowd” of Jesus’ “other sheep.”—John 10:16; Revelation 7:9-17; 21:3, 4."
This is supposedly a list of the fundamental doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses that all are required to believe. You will in most cases be disfellowshiped for not believing in one or more of them. Unfortunately the truth is most of them are false.
By Brother Rando
Being a student of Prophecy and intently studying the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, 1914 is only the beginning of the end. “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. ?All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.Â” (Matthew 24:7-8)
In 1914 the world as we know it, has entered into itsÂ death throes. Â GodÂ’s Kingdom would slowly begin crushing all kingdoms of the earth. (Daniel 2:44) Â Those inhabiting the earth would enter into an Â‘allotted amount of timeÂ ofÂ distress'. Â“During that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people.Â And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time.Â And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book.Â” (Daniel 12:1)
What is causing thisÂ Â‘time of distressÂ’? Â Â“And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled ?but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven.Â” (Rev 12:7-8) Â Â“Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing thatÂ he has a short period of time.Â” (Rev 12:12) Â HereÂ’s an important teaching from Jesus Christ, he stated, Â“For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be.Â” (Matthew 24:37) Â Did you catch that? Â So the presence of the Son of man will be. Â Jesus Christ has been ruling from Heaven since 1914 and he comparedÂ his presenceÂ likeÂ the days of Noah! Â Few people understand this, but the Days of Noah lasted 120 years. (Genesis 6:3) Â Jesus continues, Â“For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, ?and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away,Â so the presence of the Son of man will be.Â” (Matthew 24:38-39) Â Folks,Â the presence of the Son of manÂ is now 103 years from 1914 and counting. Â Yet, the World is taking no note.
The Last Days must reach their full time allotted, which is 120 years. Â 1914 + 120 = 2034. Â Since the Great Tribulation is Spiritual, many will Â fall away from the faith. But itÂ’s during this time period that the oneÂ’s separated to the right hand of Christ, will come out of the Great Tribulation as Survivors. Â In response one of the elders said to me: Â“These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?Â” (Rev 7:13)
So right away I said to him: Â“My lord, you are the one who knows.Â” And he said to me:Â Â“These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.Â”Â (Rev 7:14) Â Â“Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.Â” (Matthew 24:42)
Armageddon is an act of undeserved kindness of removing the wicked by means of the second death. Â Soon, those outside our interior rooms will be dying the second death in the same manner as Adam and Eve.Â
For Answers to Your Biblical Questions go to theÂ Jehovah Witness Q & A Forum.Â To request a free home Bible Study clickÂ
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Eruption of Sakurajima volcano, the most powerful in twentieth-century Japan, with Kagoshima, Japan in foreground, 1914
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Subsequent President of the Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. established 1914 as the date of "Christ's Invisible Return" and crowning as King of Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. which had been previously believed to be 1878. Hence, Jehovah's heavenly Kingdom is established.
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From 1914 C.E. to the early part of 1918 C.E. or 1,260 days Jehovah's people preached a "sackcloth" message concerning Christendom and the world, in fulfillment of Revelation 11:3, 4. See re pgs. 164-7 pars. 10-18, also see yw pgs. 264-307, also bf pg. 592.
[KING OF THE NORTH is now Germany, the KING OF THE SOUTH is the alliance between Great Britian and the United States of America, see Daniel 11:27-29], Archduke Francis Ferdinand and his wife, Countess Sophie Chotek, duchess of Hohenberg were assassinated on June 28th in Sarajevo, Bosnia, (now in Bosnia and Herzegovina), by a Serb nationalist. This action precipitated World War I.
On October 2, 1914, Jesus took the throne. Shortly thereafter, a war in heaven broke out wherein Satan and his demons were cast from the heavens. Satan then became so enraged that he began to wreak havoc upon the earth. One of the first things he did was to start the Great War (WWI). So WWI must have started a few days after October 2, 1914.
“World War I set the violent twentieth century in motion. It was the first use of chemical weapons; the first mass bombardment of civilians from the sky; the century’s first genocide.” So begins the 1996 PBS series The Great War and the Shaping of the Twentieth Century.
The war’s horrendous prosecution and unsatisfactory end were made even worse by the Versailles Peace Conference, a conclave which created the false peace that only allowed the combatants to rearm and proceed to a second conflict which was even more destructive than the first one. World War II merely took up the Great War’s unfinished business. Indeed many historians call both conflicts Europe’s “Second Thirty Years’ War.”
The First World War led to the birth of the first communist dictatorship. The world flirted with nuclear destruction as that dictatorship engaged in a murderous rivalry with its erstwhile allies. When the USSR finally imploded, some of the splinter states which emerged from its ruins fell to either fighting among themselves or suffering internecine bloodletting. And the problems elsewhere in southwest Asia as well as the Middle East can be traced to hatreds fostered by European colonialism which the Great War only intensified.
The world we have today had its birth pangs in World War I. It was Austria-Hungary’s invasion of Serbia on 28 July 1914 that caused a myriad of dominoes to fall—and they are continuing to tumble even now.
The war shattered an entire world order. In 1914, sixty percent of the world's population lived under the rule of kingdoms or empires. Today less than ten percent do so. The only important royal dynasty to survive the war was the House of Windsor and that was not without challenge. The fragmentation of these empires led to the rise of independent states which continues down to this day as the doctrine of "self-determination", promulgated by Wilson at Versailles, continues to govern many movements in our time.
But what makes the Great War different from its predecessors is that it was the first fought in all four quarters of the globe and by blocs of nations as opposed to just a few. Its carnage also was unmatched in previous world history. Nobody knows how many actually died although estamates range from fourteen to twenty million. Among its aftershocks were the Spanish Flu, the pandemic that killed more people than the war itself, and widespread famine. So to say that the Great War was not much different from earlier ones entirely misses the point,
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July 28, 1914. Austria-Hungary declares war on Serbia. August 1, 1914. Germany Declares War on Russia. August 3, 1914. Germany declares war on France. August 4, 1914. Britain declares war on Germany. August 6, 1914. Austria declares war on Russia. April 6, 1917 - The United States declares war on Germany.
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Previous Watchtower Publications quotations concerning 1914
“Some persons living A.D. 1914 when the series of foretold events began will also be living when the series ends with Armageddon.” - The Watchtower, September 1, 1952, p. 543
THE TRAIN ILLUSTRATION - Awake!, October 8, 1968, p. 5
“The fact that fifty-four years of the period called the ‘last days’ have already gone by is highly significant. It means that only a few years, at most, remain before the corrupt system of things dominating the earth is destroyed by God...Jesus was obviously speaking about those who were old enough to witness with understanding what took place when the ‘last days’ began. Jesus was saying that some of those persons who were alive at the appearance of the ‘sign of the last days’ would still be alive when God brought this system to its end.” - Awake!, October 8, 1968, p. 13
“But there are people still living who were alive in 1914 and saw what was happening then and who were old enough that they still remember those events. This generation is getting up in years now. A great number of them have already passed away in death. Yet Jesus very pointedly said: ‘This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.’ Some of them will still be alive to see the end of this wicked system. This means that only a short time is left before the end comes!” - Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
“However, there are people still living who were alive in 1914 and saw what was happening then and who were old enough that they still remember those events. This generation is getting up in years now. A great number of them have already passed away in death. Yet Jesus very pointedly said: ‘This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.’ Some of them will still be alive to see the end of this wicked system. This means that only a short time is left before the end comes!” - The Watchtower, February 15, 1969, p. 101
“Men of this world offer you nothing stable, nothing sure. Their promises and predictions of better things have failed time and again. Why let yourself be carried along with them in a steadily downward course to ultimate disaster due to rejecting God’s will? God’s prophetic Word has not failed. Time has confirmed its truthfulness, its unerring accuracy. The generation that saw the start of the time of distress that began in 1914 is now dwindling in numbers. Before it passes off the scene the prophesied ‘great tribulation’ will come. You can be among the joyful survivors, experience deliverance from a world system that has proved oppressive, unworkable and death dealing.” - The Watchtower, February 1, 1971, p. 69
“And the remaining ones of that generation of 1914 are still talking about it. Some of them will be talking about it right down to the time when the ‘great tribulation’ wipes Satan’s wicked system of things off the face of our globe. For Jesus Christ himself assures us: ‘Truly I say to you that this generation [the generation that saw the ‘beginning of pangs of distress’ in 1914] will by no means pass away [completely] until all these things occur. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will by no means pass away.’--Matthew 24:3,8,34,35.” - The Watchtower, May 1, 1982, p. 15
“After drawing attention to the many things that have marked the period from 1914 onward, Jesus said: ‘This generation will by no means pass away until all these things [including the end of this system] occur.’ (Matthew 24:34,14) Which generation did Jesus mean? He meant the generation of people who were living in 1914. Those persons yet remaining of that generation are now very old. However, some of them will still be alive to see the end of this wicked system. So of this we can be certain: Shortly now there will be a sudden end to all wickedness and wicked people at Armageddon. Some of the generation living in 1914 will see the end of the system of things and survive it.” - Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
ILLUSTRATION: “1914 The Generation That Will Not Pass Away” - The Watchtower, May 15, 1984, title page
“If Jesus used ‘generation’ in that sense and we apply it to 1914, then the babies of that generation are now 70 years old or older. And others alive in 1914 are in their 80’s or 90’s, a few even having reached a hundred. There are still many millions of that generation alive. Some of them ‘will by no means pass away until all things occur.’ --Luke 21:32” - The Watchtower, May 15, 1984, p. 5
“From a purely human viewpoint, it could appear that these developments could hardly take place before the generation of 1914 disappears from the scene. But fulfillment of all the foretold events affecting the generation of 1914 does not depend on comparatively slow human action. Jehovah’s prophetic word through Christ Jesus is: ‘This generation [of 1914] will by no means pass away until all things occur.’ (Luke 21:32) And Jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment of his Son’s words in a relatively short time.--Isaiah 46:9,10; 55:10,11.”
- The Watchtower, May 15, 1984, pp. 6-7
“Today, a small percentage of mankind can still recall the dramatic events of 1914. Will that elderly generation pass away before God saves the earth from ruin? Not according to Bible prophecy. ‘When you see all these things,’ Jesus promised, ‘know that he is near at the doors. Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.’--Matthew 24:33,34” - The Watchtower, May 1, 1992, p. 3
“Most important, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator’s promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away.” - Awake!, October 22, 1995, p. 4
“Eager to see the end of this evil system, Jehovah’s people have at times speculated about the time when the ‘great tribulation’ would break out, even tying this to calculations of what is the lifetime of a generation since 1914. However, we ‘bring a heart of wisdom in,’ not by speculating about how many years or days make up a generation, but by thinking about how we ‘count our days’ in bringing joyful praise to Jehovah. (Psalm 90:12) Rather than provide a rule for measuring time, the term ‘generation’ as used by Jesus refers principally to contemporary people of a certain historical period, with their identifying characteristics.” - The Watchtower, November 1, 1995, p. 17
“Therefore, in the final fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecy today, ‘this generation’ apparently refers to the peoples of earth who see the sign of Christ’s presence but fail to mend their ways...Does our more precise viewpoint on ‘this generation’ mean that Armageddon is further away than we had thought? Not at all! Though we at no time have known the ‘day and hour,’ Jehovah God has always known it, and he does not change.” - The Watchtower, November 1, 1995, pp. 19-20
“Most important, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator’s promise of a peaceful and secure new world that is about to replace the present wicked, lawless system of things.” - Awake!, November 8, 1995, p. 4
One hundred years on from the Great War
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The ‘International Bible Students’ . . . have been proclaiming to the world that the Day of Wrath prophesied in the Bible would dawn in 1914.”
It is a historical fact worth noting that, on the basis of the points and evidence above presented, the March 1880 edition of the Watch Tower magazine identified the year 1914 as the time for the close of “the appointed times of the nations” (and the end of the lease of power granted the Gentile rulers).
This was some 34 years before the arrival of that year and the momentous events it initiated. In the August 30, 1914, edition of The World, a leading New York newspaper at that time, a feature article in the paper’s Sunday magazine section commented on this as follows: “The terrific war outbreak in Europe has fulfilled an extraordinary prophecy.
For a quarter of a century past, through preachers and through press, the ‘International Bible Students’ . . . have been proclaiming to the world that the Day of Wrath prophesied in the Bible would dawn in 1914.”
The events that took place from and after the year 1914 C.E. are well-known history to all, beginning with the great war that erupted, the first world war in mankind’s history and the first to be fought over the issue, not of the domination of Europe alone, nor of Africa, nor of Asia, but of the domination of the world.—Lu 21:7-24, 29-33; Re 11:15-18.
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Something I thought might be relevant since we are studying the God's Kingdom book. Not long ago, in a WT article, it was mentioned in reference to the "Kingdom being preached in all the inhabited earth" that this will not mean that literally everyone on Earth would have heard about the Kingdom before Armageddon starts.
When one does a bit of mathematics (not my forte) and calculates the percentage of current Jehovah's Witnesses in comparison to the World's population we arrive at 0.1%. This is a very small percentage indeed. (8 million JW to 8 billion population)
If we were to assume some averages, and use the United States as a fair example, then we can assume the ratio of 1 publisher to roughly around 400. This seems a fair number since "only a few are the ones finding the road to life". However, as we know, there is practically a non existent ratio when it comes to India and China, two of the world's countries with a population of over 1billion each (the majority of whom have never heard of the Bible, never mind Jehovah's Witnesses). If we would assume the same ratio of 1:400, then this would immediately create over 3 million Witnesses in each of the two countries, i.e. over 6 million in India and China alone, bringing the total of JWs to over 14 million. If we were to also add 650 thousand in Indonesia, 485 thousand from Pakistan, and 402 thousand from Bangladesh that adds another 1.5 million bringing the total to over 15 million, almost doubling the Witnesses today.
If we go by the fact that all people are equal in Jehovah's eyes, and that no nation is above another when it comes to salvation, and that all people are basically the same, then we have to assume that there are people in those countries who, if given the chance, would embrace the truth and put themselves on Jehovah's side and create that ratio of 1:400.
With that in mind, it is evident that either there is going to have to be a lot of preaching done, verging on the miraculous, in order to bring in over 7 million new Witnesses within the allotted time of the "Generation", or, Jehovah will judge their hearts and allow nearly HALF of the people, (agnostics or believers in false Gods) entry into the new world without them even needing to know him.
Or, is "this Generation" a lot longer than we think.....
Any scriptural thoughts?
1888 "In this chapter we present the Bible evidence proving that the full end of the times of the gentiles, i.e., the full end of their lease of dominion, will be reached in A.D. 1914; and that the date will be the farthest limit of the rule of imperfect men. And be it observed, that if this is shown to be a fact firmly established by the Scriptures, it will prove; Firstly, that at that date the Kingdom of God, for which our Lord taught us to pray, saying, Thy Kingdom come, will obtain full, universal control, and that it will then be set up, or firmly established, in the earth, on the ruins of present institutions." (The Time Is At Hand, 1888, p. 76, 77)
1889 "Be not surprised, then, when in subsequent chapters we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878, and that the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty (Rev. 16:14) which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced. The gathering of the armies is plainly visible from the standpoint of God's word." (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 2, The Time Is At Hand, 1889 Ed., p. 101. The 1915 Edition of this texts changed "A.D. 1914" to read 'A.D. 1915')
In 1889, the WT said " we present PROOFS that the setting up of the kingdom of God has already begun...and that 'the battle of the great day of God almighty' (Revelation16:14),which will end in AD1914 with the complete overthrow of the earth's present rulership, is already commenced.".
The watchtower presented "proofs".
These "proofs" were wrong, so what credibility do they have to "proclaim" anything?
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