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    • By Witness
      Here's another one,  @TrueTomHarley
       
       
      He snuck out on Sunday morning to go to a liquor store (bypassing many others stores close by) out of state to spend almost $1000 bucks on whiskey. He should have been doing 'pastoral' duties that Sunday morning in the Headquarters where he lives and runs the place.
      Instead he dressed up in disguise; a trenchcoat, tennis shoes, and a low billed hat to go out of state at a special 'spiritual' time to get his liquor instead of dressing up in a suit with other brothers and going like normal, or having those under him purchase it.
      Many critical thinkers here believe that it belies a dishonesty. He could have picked a better time and place, and manner of dress to get his 12 bottles of high end scotch, at the least. Also, the manner of his purchase suggests a bigger problem, not only with him, but within the compound itself, if this is allowed, while they preach the opposite to the masses.
       
       
    • By The Librarian
      Born: 1950-
      Location: ?
      “Tony” Morris as his friends call him 
      Part of a series about:
       
      Served in a medical capacity at Long Binh in the Vietnam War 1968-1970 (discussed in one of his talks) (Link here when we find it)
      Studied with Jehovah's Witnesses and subsequently baptized in 1970.
      He married his wife Susan who is Irish. (year ?)
      Was in full-time service from 1971-74, then raised two sons (Jesse and Paul) and resumed full-time service in 1979.
      He served in the circuit work and went to Patterson in 2002.
      He has two sons (Jesse and Paul) both reportedly serving in Bethel. Appointed to work in the Service Dept. and served as a helper to the Service Committee of the Governing Body. (as one of the "Nethinim" in 1992 and reportedly even wrote that article while serving in the writing dept.)
      Announcement of his appointment to the Governing Body was made on August 24, 2005 

      Once commented regarding the Society that "We tried running a loose ship [in the 70's], and it didn't work."
      Anthony Morris expressed his views on tight jeans in Rome Italy - January 2014
      The Real Armageddon - Why? When?
       
      In 2019 he was caught up in a controversy over his buying lots of expensive hard liquor at a liquor store.

      Talks by Anthony Morris III (on the first wiki)


      In one video I saw, Anthony Morris III makes the comment "I come from a wealthy family, you all know that". Does anyone know who this family is? What is their business? Where does such wealth come from?

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      Comments on Ireland's Legalization of Same-Sex Marriage - June 2015 
       
    • By Jack Ryan
      Why is God ok with Slavery yet so against the Gays?
    • By Jack Ryan
      JW.org Wiki - Homosexuality.mp4
      This talk was from a Zone Visit in Italy around 2014
      See also:
       
    • By Bible Speaks
      http://www.pulse.ng/communities/religion/homosexuality-anglican-church-supports-same-sex-marriage-id8376234.html
      Anglican Church votes in favor of same-sex marriage


    • By Jack Ryan
      http://kutv.com/news/local/mormon-support-for-gay-marriage-gradually-grows

      SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Mormon Alex Landers supports the legalization of gay marriage despite her religion's opposition for a simple reason: She has LGBTQ friends who she loves and respects, including her best friend who is a bisexual man.
      "I can't look at him and his boyfriend and tell them that they can't be happy and they can't love each other," said Landers, 20, of Draper, Utah. "Heavenly Father loves us for who we are. He wants us to be happy, as long as we're treating people well and we're being who we truly are and we're not hurting anyone."
      She is among a growing number of young Mormons driving the faith's gradual acceptance of same-sex marriages, even though the religion's support still lags well behind national approval and those of Catholics, Muslims and Jews, according to the survey released this week by the Public Religion Research Institute.
      The survey found that 40 percent of Mormons in the United States supported gay marriage in 2017, up from 27 percent in 2014.
      Among Mormons between the ages of 18-29, the acceptance is 52 percent. That's up from 43 percent in 2014.
      Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who are 65 and older have the lowest rate of support at 32 percent, according a survey based on about 40,000 phone interviews done last year. That's up from 18 percent in 2014.
      Nationally, 61 percent of Americans support gay marriage, up from 52 percent in 2013.
      The Utah-based religion of 16 million worldwide members has held firm to its opposition of gay marriage and homosexual activity while trying to foster an empathetic stance toward LGBTQ people.
      Last year, church leaders updated a website to advise that attraction to people of the same sex is not a sin or a measure of their faithfulness and may never go away. But the church reminded members that being in an intimate same-sex relationship is a sin.
      Among religious groups included in the survey, only white evangelical Protestants and Jehovah's Witnesses had lower levels of support for gay marriage. Support was higher among Catholics (about 65 percent), Muslims (51 percent) and Jews (77 percent).
      The survey found that Mormons had the largest gap between support for gay marriage and support for anti-discrimination laws to protect LGBT people. While only 40 percent of Mormons favor gay marriage, 69 percent support anti-discrimination laws.
      Luis Miranda, a 30-year-old heterosexual Mormon, said he wasn't surprised by the survey results because he senses a shifting tone among other young Mormons in the singles congregation he attends.
      He said he grew up as a Catholic in Guatemala believing that traditional marriage between a man and a woman was sacred and important. He continued to hold that belief after he moved to Utah as a teenager and converted to Mormonism.
      But as he grew older, he realized he needed to meet and spend more time with gays and lesbians. "I realized they were just as beautiful and loving with each other, and as pure as anyone else," said Miranda, of Salt Lake City.
      Miranda said he sometimes struggles to reconcile his opinion with what church leaders are teaching. He believes Mormon leaders have good intentions. He is committed to remain in the religion to be a voice of support for gay marriage.
      He finds hope in the fact that the religion believes church doctrine can be altered through revelations from God. That's how the church explained why it lifted the ban on blacks in the religion's lay priesthood in 1978.
      "If it's happened before, it could happen again," Miranda said.
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      Discurso Anthony Morris III-Organizados para hacer la voluntad de Dios.pdf
    • By Jack Ryan
      The video starts in a board room meeting where a group of men are brainstorming experiences which they can share – and one of the pinpoints “Sally”. ?
      The clip then cuts to a young woman walking around what appears to be a market.
      She seeÂ’s women wearing rainbow bracelets, with rainbow posters showing two stick-figure women holding hands.
      When she goes to the till she’s asked if she would like to “make a donation to the marathon”, to which Sally says “no, thank you”.
      She then walks to a separate store and purchases a blanket.
      While waiting she sees a number of women wearing the bracelet.
      The woman who serves her asks Sally if she would like her rainbow bracelet in the bag or if she would like to wear it now.
      “No thank you,” Sally repeats again.
      “What’s wrong honey?” A third woman then questions her. “You got something against them?” 
      “Well no I don’t have anything against them personally,” she begins to reply, but she is then cut off.
      “So what’s the problem?”
      “I respect that they have a right to choose their lifestyle but as a Bible reader,” Sally begins to try and explain.
      “Excuse me I’m a bible reader too I go to church and our church is one of the biggest supporters for this marathon,” the woman replies.
       
      “Displaying courage now will help me display courage in the future,” a voice tells her.
      “Well I’m one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and we believe the bible teaches sex is for a man and a woman who are married,” Sally says.
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
       
       
      There was a game we used to play
      We would hit the town on Friday night
      And stay in bed until Sunday
      We used to be so free
      We were living for the love we had and
      Living not for reality

      It was just my imagination [x3]

      There was a time I used to pray
      I have always kept my faith in love
      It's the greatest thing from the man above
      The game I used to play
      I've always put my cards upon the table
      Let it never be said that I'd be unstable

      It was just my imagination [x3]

      There is a game I like to play
      I like to hit the town on Friday night
      And stay in bed until Sunday
      We'll always be this free
      We will be living for the love we have
      Living not for reality

      It's not my imagination [x3]
      Not my [x18]
    • By Jack Ryan
      Two elders have been deleted by Watchtower for reporting an allegation of child sexual abuse to the police, contrary to Watchtower orders (a jw paedophile with a history, apparently). When the British branch discovered what the elders had done they arranged for 3 elders to fly over to Ireland, at the congregations expense no less, to hold a special JC for the ' rogue' congregation elders. One elder and the COBE were deleted, two were allowed to continue. All four had made statements to police.
      Their crime was, breathtakingly, not exhibiting "soundness of mind" by not following company directives and using their own conscience!!!
      The following 'Watchtower in Focus' explains all. Incredibly a practicing jw reached out to jw survey in an attempt to have a light shone on this travesty of justice, which resulted in an excellent front page article being written in a national magazine.
       
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      Galway Bay fm newsroom – Tuam’s Jehovah’s Witnesses congregation is hoping to refurbish its premises at the Weir Road in the town.
      The development at Killaloonty would involve the renovation of the existing building, and a change of use of the adjoining caretakers apartment.
       
      The change of use would facilitate a relocation of the front entrance, new toilet facilities, an enlarged auditorium and a new multipurpose room.
      The project would also see the provision of accessible toilets and car parking bays, additional general parking and a new pedestrian entrance.
      County planners are due to make a decision next month.
    • By Bible Speaks
      School for Kingdom Evangelisers, Ireland Schools Facility.
      ???
      Today's Watchtower reminded me of one student's comment during an interview at their graduation last week.
      They said they appreciated that they had received a "superior education.
      This is the best possible education because it comes from our Creator."
      How very true. No other education compares to one from Jehovah.
      Thank you @aliciafmh

    • By Jack Ryan
      From the June 2017 Watchtower:

      In the Spanish version they used the phrase "wrong desires" and in the German edition they used the term "fleshly desires"
    • By The Librarian
      Does the Bible teach that homosexuals are bad people? Can a Christian please God while feeling attracted to the same sex?
      Source
    • By The Librarian
      Witnesses describe gruesome scene of Castlebar murders

      ON TRIAL Alan Cawley is pictured arriving at Swinford District Court back in July 2013, when he was charged with the murders of Tom and Jack Blaine. His trial began in Dublin last Friday. Pic: Keith Heneghan/Phocus
      Ballina man on trial in Dublin for murder of ‘vulnerable, reclusive’ brothers
      Natasha Reid
      A woman who had cared for two elderly brothers for almost a decade became emotional in court today as she described finding their bodies covered in blood in their Castlebar home four years ago.Helen Maloney was giving evidence to the ongoing murder trial at the Central Criminal Court earlier today.Alan Cawley of Four Winds, Corrinbla, Ballina, is charged with murdering both Thomas Blaine and John (Jack) Blaine, who were beaten to death in their home.The 30 year old has admitted killing the brothers, one of whom was disabled and was scalded during the assault. However, he has pleaded not guilty to murdering them on July 10, 2013, at New Antrim Street in the town.
      ‘I loved them dearly’Ms Maloney told Denis Vaughan Buckley, SC, prosecuting, that she was employed as a Home Help by the HSE and had been caring for the Blaine brothers for around nine years, when they died.She became emotional when he asked her about her first impression of them. “Two absolute gentlemen,” she replied.The barrister was then given permission to lead her through her evidence, and put the contents of a document to her.She agreed with him that they were ‘very vulnerable, reclusive and had speech impediments’. She agreed that Jack Blaine had both a speech and hearing problem, and had a spinal injury from an accident in England many years earlier. He had also suffered from dementia in his last few months. She added that she used to call to see them three times a day, 365 days a year.“They were two absolute gentlemen, a pleasure to look after,” she said. “They gave so much love and respect to me. They’ll be in my mind until the day I die. I loved them dearly, and so did the people of Castlebar.”She said they were loved throughout the town, where their nickname was ‘The boys’.She described them jointly as a treasure. “They’d never hurt anybody,” she said, before describing the scene she found that morning.She said she arrived at their house at 7.15am, went into the kitchen and called out to them in the same way she had everyday: “Are you ready to rock and roll?” she said.She got no answer and looked into Tom Blaine’s bedroom, where she saw him lying on the floor, with his legs on the bed. She said she shouted: ‘Tom, Tom. It’s Helen’, but there was no response.She then saw a pool of blood on the floor and that he was saturated in blood. She said there was blood on the walls and there were bloody handprints in the room. She could see that the blood was coming from his head. She said she went out the front door and asked two council men to call the Gardaí before running back into the house.“I couldn’t find Jack,” she explained. She ran upstairs to his bedroom and found it totally ransacked. “I searched, thinking he might have been hiding with fear, but there was no Jack,” she recalled.She returned downstairs and found the back door fully opened. She saw Jack Blaine on his back on the ground, half in and half out of the house. “He was also covered in blood all over,” she said.She recalled running out the front door again and shouting: ‘Oh my God’.She said she saw Rocky Moran, the owner of a pub across the road. She described Rocky’s Bar as Jack Blaine’s ‘home from home’, where he could get a cup of tea any time of the day.“The boys are gone,” she told Mr Moran. He asked her where they’d gone. She told him they were dead and not go to in, that he didn’t want to see what was inside. She said she then got sick.Caroline Biggs SC, defending, asked if she was satisfied that the brothers would never have had the capacity to hurt her. “Never in a million years,” she replied. “The only thing they would have shown me was affection.”
      ‘All sliced’Michael ‘Rocky’ Moran confirmed that Ms Maloney had warned him not to go into the house but that he had gone inside anyway. He described the same scene as Ms Maloney, adding that Jack Blaine was ‘all cut’.“He was all sliced,” said the publican and undertaker.“It’s one of the worst sights I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen a lot of sights,” he said.He said he had not been working the night before and had last seen Jack Blaine on July 8. “He might have come in ten times a night for a cup of tea. He came in during the day as well,” he said.He said that he sometimes drank the tea in the pub, but that staff would mainly bring it across the street for him and leave it on his windowsill.“He only spoke to me twice ever in his life,” he said, explaining that he had known both brothers all his life.Garda Michael Tolan was one of the first gardai on the scene and described Ms Maloney as inconsolable when he arrived.He also knew both men. He told Mr Vaughan Buckley that Tom Blaine appeared to be badly marked and that his brother’s lips were split.“His stomach was bare,” he said of Jack Blaine. “There appeared to be pieces of skin removed from his stomach.”
      ‘That’s terrible’The jury was then shown CCTV footage of Alan Cawley’s movements around the time of the killing. It showed him cross paths with Jack Blaine outside Rocky’s Bar at 11.58pm, as an employee was delivering a cup of tea to the pensioner’s windowsill.It showed the accused enter the Blaine home at midnight, followed by Mr Blaine. Mr Cawley was seen leaving the house an hour and two minutes later.The jury also heard that the accused had been released from prison a few days earlier.Clodagh Peyton testified that she had provided B&B accommodation in apartments on Newport Road in the town. She had agreed to host Alan Cawley for a number of nights from Friday, July 5, the day he was released from Castlerea Prison, after the prison’s resettlement officer had introduced them.She said that he was a little agitated on Tuesday, July 9, having been picked up for shoplifting. “He was just telling me that he was trying to keep himself chilled out, lighting incense and things like that,” she recalled.The morning after the killing, she said, he seemed fine – relaxed, chatting and smiling. “He was asking questions about the bible,” she said, explaining that she was a Jehovah’s Witness and had left related magazines in his room.She brought a friend to meet him later that day and the three of them held a bible study for over an hour. When she told him the news of the killing, she said he replied: ‘That’s terrible’.She said she no-longer provides the service she provided at the time.The trial continues tomorrow morning (Thursday) before Mr Justice Paul Coffey and a jury of four women and eight men.
      http://www.mayonews.ie/news/30388-witnesses-describe-gruesome-scene-of-castlebar-murders
    • By The Librarian
      One Man, One Woman
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    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      A Jehovah's Witness in England embroiled in a family court dispute with his estranged wife has been barred from taking his six-year-old son to some religious events by a judge.
      District Judge Malcolm Dodds has refused to allow the man to take the little boy to Jehovah's Witness assemblies, annual conventions and memorials.
      The judge concluded that there was a risk of the youngster suffering "emotional damage".
      He heard that the couple had separated about a year after the man began to study the Jehovah's Witness faith.
      The boy now lives with his mother, who did not practise any religion.
      Judge Dodds said the boy was "impressionable" and might suffer as a result of getting "confusing messages" if he went with his father to certain kinds of Jehovah's Witness gatherings.
      The boy's father had asked the judge to decide how much time he could spend with the boy. He also wanted the boy to be "part of" his religious beliefs.
      The boy's mother had raised concern about the boy being harmed by his father's religious beliefs and had told the judge how her son had once told her "God is good and you are bad".
      Judge Dodds had analysed the dispute at a private family court hearing in Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire, in May.
      He has revealed detail in a written ruling.
      The family involved has not been identified.
      Judge Dodds said the man could spend time with the boy and could take him to Sunday services.
      But he said he took a different view about the boy attending "assemblies, annual conventions and memorials".
      The judge said the man had already agreed not to take the boy on "field service" - knocking on doors of people's homes, not to read Bible stories to him and not to show him "religious biased media", including cartoons.
      "I ... do not wish to restrict him from taking (the boy) to the Kingdom Hall each Sunday for up to two hours," said Judge Dodds.
      "I do not see that this practice of the father's faith for a limited period within a group service with child-friendly activities poses a risk of jeopardy to (the boy's) relationship with his mother."
      The judge added: "I take a different view of assemblies, annual conventions and memorials. These are much longer events."
      He went on: "There is a far greater risk that (the boy) will be influenced ... given his age and how impressionable he is and the risk of emotional damage due to confusing messages.
      "As a result I find it necessary and proportionate to prohibit the father from taking (the boy) to Jehovah's Witness assemblies, annual conventions and memorials."
      Judge Dodds said the man had been "wise" to agree not to show the boy "Jehovah's Witness cartoons".
      The judge said he had watched cartoons called Obey Jehovah, Pay Attention At Meetings and One Man One Woman.
      "In Obey Jehovah a child is taught about the sinfulness of having a cartoon character toy with magical powers which the child had to put in a bin," said the judge.
      "While making sense to a child if both parents were Jehovah's Witnesses, such a cartoon would send a very confusing message to a child like (the boy) who has one foot in his mother's world and a wider world (in which magical characters are everywhere in books, television, DVDs, on the internet and in films) and his other foot in his father's world where such magical characters are sinful.
      "The mother asserts that in her submissions that the objective of the cartoons and Bible stories is to condition and indoctrinate children into Jehovah's Witness beliefs through a mixture of fear, manipulation and a strict boundary between behaviour which is acceptable and pleasing and that which is not.
      "The father accepts that (the boy) should not be exposed to such religious based media until (he) is at least 12."
      http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/judge-bars-jehovahs-witness-from-taking-his-son-to-religious-events-793094.html
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      On St. Patrick's Day, everyone is seeing green—whether it's the green Chicago River, green beer, green milkshakes or green clothing and bead necklaces. Many might believe that the Emerald Isle and the color green are linked because of the country's verdant landscape, but the association actually traces its roots to Irish political history.
      In fact, blue is believed to have been associated with Ireland before green was. Henry the VIII claimed to be king of Ireland in the 16th century, and his flag at that point would have been blue. That's at least one reason why a blue flag with a harp is associated with the Irish President. (The harp is one of the two main symbols of Ireland, along with the Shamrock, and it dates back to the bards whose songs and stories were the chief entertainment in medieval Gaelic society.) A light blue became associated with the Order of St. Patrick, an 18th century era order of knights, perhaps to create a shade of blue for the Irish that was different from the royal blue associated with the English, says Timothy McMahon, Vice President of the American Conference for Irish Studies .
      McMahon argues the earliest use of green for nationalistic reasons was seen during the violent Great Irish Rebellion of 1641, in which displaced Catholic landowners and bishops rebelled against the authority of the English crown, which had established a large plantation in the north of Ireland under King James I in the early 17th century. Military commander Owen Roe O'Neill helped lead the rebellion, and used a green flag with a harp to represent the Confederation of Kilkenny, a group that sought to govern Ireland and kick out the Protestants who had taken control of that land in the north of Ireland. (They were ultimately defeated by Oliver Cromwell.)
      The color green cropped up again during an effort in the 1790s to bring nonsectarian, republican ideas to Ireland, inspired by the American revolution and the French revolution. The main society that promoted this idea, the Society of United Irishmen, wore green, especially an Irish version of the "liberty caps" worn during the French Revolution. One police report described their uniform as comprised of a dark green shirt cloth coat, green and white striped trousers, and a felt hat turned up on one side with a green emblematic cockade.
      Though the rest of the uniform eventually faded from popular wear, the importance of the color green spread, thanks in part to the poems and ballads written during this time, most famously "The Wearing of the Green."
      "You start to see different traditions building up around colors — the Protestant tradition is orange, the nationalist tradition associated with the Catholics is green," McMahon adds.
      The origins of the wearing of green clothing in the U.S. on St. Patrick's Day and for St. Patrick's Day celebrations in general date back to the 19th century, when waves of Irish immigrants came to America looking for better job opportunities, especially after the Great Famine of the 1840s-50s, and began wearing green and carrying Irish flags along with American flags as a point of pride for their home country.
      http://time.com/4699771/green-irish-st-patricks-day-color/
    • By io.porog
      July 2015

      Note: These posts are for the purpose of indexing JW Broadcasting Program Parts for easy access and look up on this site, as JW Broadcasting does not yet have a search function. Most parts have been linked directly to the video for that part, for easy access. You may like to use these links for personal or family study. Enjoy!

      Presenter: Bro. Anthony Morris III GB

      Translation: Namibia RTO Dedication report Length 5:22 mins

      Theme Talk: “Jehovah’s Servants Will Be Persecuted” Length 22: 53 mins

      Enduring Trials: Sis. Aynura“With Jehovah, I Am Not Alone” Length 6:18 mins

      Truth Transforms Lives: Sis. Kimiko Nakagawa “Love Convinced the Saul of Sado” Length 7:14 mins

      Discussion: Child Abuse Length (approx) 8 mins

      Become Jehovah’s Friend: Protect Your Children Length 1:52 mins

      Apply Bible Principles: Choosing a Career With Eternal Future Length 4:58 mins

      Truth Transforms Lives: Bro. Michael Lemoine “I Put the Truth On Trial” Length 7:16 mins

      Original Song: Glad I Passed the Test Length 2:22 mins

      Closing Video: Mahaut & Marie-Galante Congregations, Dominica

      Full Length 1:09:03 mins

      *Full length time includes intermediary comments

    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      Devon and Cornwall Police have said a leaflet posted through doors in North Devon isn't a crime – despite it advising gay people to "control their urges".
      The leaflet, entitled "How to Harness Your Habits", was distributed in North Devon by Jehovah's Witnesses and contains an article asking "What does the Bible say about homosexuality?"
      In it, the religious group states that "rejecting homosexuality" is completely different to "rejecting people of a different skin colour" and says their views are the same as people who "view smoking as harmful and even repugnant".


      It also compares gay people to animals, but says "unlike animals, they can choose not to act on their impulses".
      The Journal was contacted by a reader, who wishes to remain anonymous, who felt "belittled" by the leaflet.
      "I completely respect other peoples' beliefs and people who disagree with homosexuality because of their religion do not bother me," she said.
      "But when people actively seek you out to force their beliefs upon you and tell you that what you are doing is wrong then that does upset me.
      "They have encroached on my life by forcing their literature into my home and belittled my relationship and my life."
      Using passages from the Bible as, the text also says: "A person who has homosexual leanings can control what he allows his mind to dwell on, just as he would control any other wrong desire, including leanings towards anger, adultery or greed."
      However, it also says "the Bible does not encourage prejudice, hate crimes or any other kind of mistreatment of homosexuals".
      Devon and Cornwall Police looked at the leaflet and stated: "We have been made aware of some religious materials which have been distributed in North Devon.
      "Whilst it doesn't appear to meet the threshold to be considered a crime, these have been passed on to our Diverse Communities Team to look into."
      But Matt Horwood, senior communications officer for national LGBT charity Stonewall called the leaflet "damaging vitriol". 
      "It perpetuates the myth that you cannot be of faith while also being part of, or supporting, the lesbian, gay, bi and trans community," he said.
      "Stonewall will continue its work with faith communities to ensure that all LGBT people are accepted without exception in their place of worship and within their own faith communities."

      http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/police-say-this-8216-anti-gay-8217-leaflet-isn-8217-t-a-crime-8211-what-do-you-think/story-29679291-detail/story.html
    • Guest Nicole
    • By Jack Ryan
      Phillip Morris Company is now called Altria, Inc.

      I saw this thread on Facebook and would like to know the truth.

    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      The validity of hundreds of marriages could be in doubt amid concerns about the “training and accreditation” of some wedding solemnisers.
      The Department of Social Protection, which maintains the register of solemnisers, is so concerned it says it may require all marriages to be solemnised by a civil registrar in addition to solemnisation by another religious or secular body.
      It says it has no way of knowing how many marriages may be affected as a result of being performed by inadequately trained solemnisers because a civil registrar is not present at such weddings.
      There are almost 6,000 marriage solemnisers registered across the State – some based in Northern Ireland.
      Of the total, 105 are civil registrars, employed by the HSE. There are also 13 secular solemnisers – including 12 humanist ones – and 5,784 who belong to religious bodies.
      No concerns have been expressed about the training and accreditation in any named religious body. However the Registrar General is concerned generally about the training that some smaller, newer religious bodies may be giving to accredited ministers, and it has no way of policing this.
      Of the religious solemnisers, the majority are from mainstream churches, including 4,452 from the Catholic Church, 358 from the Church of Ireland, 210 Jehovah’s Witnesses, 195 Methodists, 92 Presbyterians, five from the Islamic community and two who are Jewish.
      Online ordination
      There are also hundreds from less-known religious bodies, including one fromLife Renewal Ministries International, nine from the Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministries, five from Pagan Federation Ireland and one from theHealing Streams Christian Renewal Centre.
      In a statement, the Registrar General told The Irish Times: “Religious bodies are not required by law to have training and accreditation procedures, and there is concern that the quality assurance provided by training and accreditation may not be present in some cases. The office is aware any individual can easily obtain an online ordination certificate without any training or accreditation by the religious body issuing the certificate.
      “Applications have been made by such persons for registration in the register of solemnisers.”
      Solemnisers from a secular body must satisfy regulations in the Civil Registration (Amendment) Act 2014, which says the body must have more than 50 members, must meet regularly and must have appropriate procedures for “selecting, training and accrediting members as fit and proper persons to solemnise marriages”.
      Senior officials in the department have warned in a briefing note to Minister for Social Protection Leo Varadkar: “The proliferation of small bodies and the lack of regulations of bodies gives rise to concerns as to validity of [some] marriages registered in the State.
      “In one case, a member of a religious body was convicted of facilitating sham marriages.
      “Against this background, consideration may need to be given to requiring that all marriages in the State be solemnised by a civil registrar as is the practice in most EU countries.”
      A spokeswoman said the Registrar General does not intend to comment on any particular body or on how many there are concerns about.
      “It is not possible to know how many marriages may be affected as the marriages in question are solemnised by religious bodies and no civil registrar is present.”
      Source: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/concern-mounts-that-hundreds-of-marriages-may-be-invalid-1.2686282
    • By Jack Ryan
      Is this how Jesus would speak about one of his dear sisters? Or does he sound more like a Pharisee?
      See also:

       
    • By Jack Ryan
      One of the GB will give a talk that is being streamed to halls in the UK and Ireland.
      To be broadcast simultaneously across the UK.
      1pm next Saturday
      Anyone on here attending?
       
      For those who are interested, here is the programme:-
      1:00 pm Song 63 & prayer - P. Gillies
      1:05 pm Watchtower summary - R. Li
      1:35 pm Branch report & experiences - P. Longstaff
      1:55 pm Song 54 & announcements
      2:05 pm Prove yourselves ready for Jehovah's day - J. Kikot
      3:00 pm Make over your mind - K. Flodin
      3:55 pm Song 75 & prayer - K. Flodin
       
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    • Thanks my dear.... well put.  These atheists display the personality of their "father".  They produce only insults and have no persuasion capabilities. Steamrolling and bullying is not my idea of a good conversation. Nothing important has been said by any of the smarty-pants to impress me!  Regarding your last sentence: do not worry...... I think we will see enough developments in global affairs in the next three years which will give you the incentive to hold your head up high for a little longer past the 10 year mark..... we are on the brink of BIG life-altering political developments. Things are building up.   
    • Of course he mentioned how the 144,000 are part of the kings and priests going to heaven. And of course he knew of the possibility that he might personally not be "guaranteed" to be remain among that number. But he never said anything about NOT being a part of that number while he was writing articles, sermons, books, etc. In fact, the Watchtower's own BIOGRAPHY of Russell said that he privately admitted to being the "faithful and wise servant."  Even more, Russell said: but since the servant mentioned is to dispense food to the other members of the body, his fellow-servants, the term seems to be limited to some particular individual (R3355) Who do you think this particular individual was supposed to be referring to? This servant, if found faithful, would be intrusted more and more with the distribution of every feature of Present Truth as represented in the parable, by his being given the dispensing of the food in due season to the household. (R3356) Can you think what person for as long he was being found faithful, considered himself to be dispensing every feature of Present Truth to the household of faith? . . . the Lord at the time indicated would specially use one member of his Church as the channel or instrument through which he would send the appropriate messages, spiritual nourishment appropriate at that time; because at various times in the past the Lord has used individuals in such a manner. For instance, Peter used the "keys" of the Kingdom of heaven at Pentecost . . . . (R3356) Who might Russell think it is? Hmmm. We don't have to worry about it, he tells us directly: No, the truths I present, as God's mouthpiece, were not revealed in visions or dreams, nor by God's audible voice, nor all at once, but gradually, especially since 1870, and particularly since 1880. Neither is this clear unfolding of truth due to any human ingenuity or acuteness of perception, but to the simple fact that God's due time has come; and if I did not speak, and no other agent could be found, the very stones would cry out. (R3821) Of course, I think you knew this already.
    • Yes, some people are naturally good and kind and there is no need to look down on them.  Satan had the opposite type of personality....... which type of arrogance many people here display..... and they are not as smart as they think they are....    I was not talking about the Truth...... I was talking about the law which protect lawyers and clergy from revealing confessions.
    • When speaking with others of a different point of view, it is important to treat them with a modicum of respect. It is important not to taunt and ridicule and insult. Of course, if such is your only object, then it is okay to do these things, but not if your goal is to persuade. It is important to present oneself as cognizant to the laws of civility. That way, in the event that you actually do make a valid point, you find that it is not rejected out of hand by persons who simply resent how ill-mannered you are. My greatest fear is that Alan’s cherished evolution is right and that he is the final product of it. If so, kiss goodbye any future for the human race, for that is ensured, not by big dumb animals with horns ramming each other to prove ‘who’s da man?’ but with ordinary persons of moderate intellectual abilities and superior social skills—the latter of which our boy Alan has not a speck. Arguably, this point highlighted above is valid. It is not a game-changer, but neither is it ridiculous. It may be that the “apostate” brush paints far too broadly and many regarded as such do not strictly fit the bill. They fit another bill, that of fomenting divisions, displaying an unyielding spirit to the point that unity and progress ceases, elevating self to godhood, or some such woe. It is in the Book somewhere—certainly the overall spirit should cover it. It is sort of like that StarTrek episode where Picard snapped: “Those Stenchiites have been beating us over the head with that blasted treaty for days! There must be something in it that can benefit us!” There was. Provision in the treaty called for arbitration of disputes, the plaintiff to choose the arbiter, and so Picard chose the Sleepyites, now in the 2nd year of their 20 year hibernation state. For some reason that I do not recall, time was of the essence, and so the Stenchites yielded on their legalistic point. Legalism only takes you so far, and is counterproductive if pushed beyond that point. It is like looking at those solid electrons that dissolve into mush if examined too closely. @Arauna is right when she concedes that Witness has a huge reservoir of verse, but she is totally unable to put them to any practical use. It is the same with AlanF. Yes, he knows a lot of facts and he shows off with them to the most anal degree, but when push comes to shove, what can he show for them? An ability to destroy a WorldNewsMediaForum thread, and not much more. He, like Witness, is good at tearing down (though in different ways). But can he build? Don’t make me laugh. He ladles contempt on any who would stick to an arrangement that they know to be fallible. What in the world is wrong with him? Or his disciple, 4Jah2Me, who puts even “make mistakes” and “errs” under the electron microscope and discovers worlds of difference between them! He says—for he has not yet shed everything, as he presently will—that the end is at least ten years off. In that time, God will be able to raise up a pure anointed who represents him without flaw. I say, “Go for it!” Maybe you can start it up in your basement—as a collaboration with Witness. Ten years down the road I’ll take a look, and if in fact, you have pulled off the trick, I will join you. Meanwhile, I will tell Kim Jung Un to hold off on the nukes, Trump to stop carrying on so others hate his guts, Xi to dismantle social rating and be nicer to those in his camps, Putin to “cut it out,” Greta to just be patient for a few more years. Yeah, go for it 4Jah2Me! I’m sure it will happen that way. Meanwhile, trash the good while holding out for the perfect. Michael Hart wrote about Plato and his ideal government as realized in his concept of philosopher-kings, notable for their ability to convert their academic book-learning into practical results. The concept has never actually been implemented, Hart said. I wrote that it had been. Anyone familiar with Jehovah’s Witnesses will realize at once that his idealist concept fits almost to a tee their Governing Body. https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2019/01/plato-and-the-governing-body.html I’m serious with regard to 4Jah2Me. Ten years for God to make a better anointed that has enough Holy Spirit to satisfy him? Fine. Run with it. I’ll stay where I am in the meantime because JWs are quite plainly in the vanguard, even with their blunders. Besides, I don’t know how many of their blunders are actually blunders. I do note that John rejoiced that “SOME of your children are walking in the truth.” That’s a pretty weak statement. Don’t you think he would rather have said, “ALL of your children are walking in the truth?” Were the “some” that left all due to the ineptness of that early Christian governance? Or was it the best that could have been expected then (and now) in the course of letting light shine in a world that prefers darkness? “When the son of man arrives, will he really find the faith on earth?” Jesus asks. “Not if I can help it!” Alan says, with an upvote from 4Jah2Me. So bring me what you have in ten years, and if it is the same, only minus the imperfections, count on my support. I’ll bolt. I’m not vested here. I am tired of guys who “make mistakes and err.” I want to be where they don’t make mistakes and they don’t err. Get cracking on it, and if there still is a system of things in ten years, I’ll join you.    
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