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21 minutes ago, Michael Krewson said:

@TrueTomHarley this is what you were referencing the other day?

I think so, but it has been politicized. I see nothing about any walkout being permanent, pending the problem being fixed.

Of the new plans for symbolic actions and parades, I read: (from the posted article) 

"A number of people have told me it's frightening and powerful, and really sends a message," the 16-year-old told the BBC

Yes, it sounds fearsome, perhaps. But the actual tweet I posted, if acted upon, might have actually gotten something done. The kids have been hijacked by the grown-ups and sold the line that "sending a message" is the same as solving a problem. I can send 200 messages a day online, most of which will be forgotten by the next day.

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The National School Walkout is silly.

There is ONLY one thing that will stop an evil man from killing the innocent.

ONLY ONE.

And all the wishing, and hoping, and legislating in the world will not change that.

It is  good man of courage, with superior firepower, ( that means more bullets, for those in Rio Linda...) to engage and kill the evil man.

The only way to stop a Bad Guy with a gun ... is with a Good Guy, with a gun.

All else is a community intellectual circle jerk fantasy.

 

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On the other hand, I think it was an Australian cleric who said it best - when will Americans come to love their children MORE than their guns.

Look, one or the other. Strong gun laws or armed veterans. Either will arguably work - probably armed vets in the short run and gun laws in the long run. But neither will come about until kids put adults toes to the fire by permanently boycotting school until a fix is in place.

I mean, there is no possible way Rook is going to yeild on this. He doesn't think there are persons just as intransigent on the other side? So nothing will be done and a few dozen kids will be picked off yearly while these guys scream at each other over who is right.

But if the kids actually stop going to school.....

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The Universe decides who is right and who is wrong ... and liberal fantasies are COMPLETELY disregarded.

The intransigence on the other side is based on fantasy ...

It used to be that, during the late 60's terrorists hijacked Israeli Air Lines Jets, and Israeli citizens ... and in 1974 the Jews sent Commandos to Entebbe, Uganda  and other countries,  and violently rescued their people,  violating everybody's "national sovereignty" ... slaughtered the kidnappers, and took THEM hostage, and back to Israel for trial .... if they survived.

As soon as the terrorist world understood they would NEVER win ... and that they would ALWAYS die. the hijacking of El Al Airlines completely stopped..

The REASON there are school shootings is that THEY ARE GUN FREE ZONES !!!

The Bad Guys (BGs) know they have time to slaughter without instant return fire.

The average "school shooting" is over in three minutes.  The average armed response time is five minutes.

Do the math!

I am also in favor of after a fair trial, hanging the murderers by the neck until dead on a wooden gallows erected on top of the school where the shooting took place ... without a bag over the head of the condemned, and without any last words.

And have it televised nationally.

Even the dull and stupid understand THAT!

...and completely eliminate the "Insanity Defense".  The Insanity defense is in itself total Snowflake  insanity ... by people who care more for their nutty relatives than Civilization.

Armed and trained teachers and school staff with concealed handguns ... and as we saw in Florida with the two Coaches, there are many who WILL  run TOWARD the gunfire, and cannot by nature of who they are do otherwise ... allow them to competently defend themselves and students.

Just as in any Family ... it is a man's JOB to protect the innocent ... himself, and others in his charge.

An incompetent defense is no defense at all.

You cannot have pansy, feel good cum-bah-ya Snowflakes, where a man's responsibilities are subrogated by the State, and all the nut cases that work there ....  and have a stable Civilization.

... as we have seen.

 

 

 

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As Galatians 6:7 rightly states that whatever a person sows they shall reap.

Personally I think that this scripture can be applied to America and the second amendment........."it is my inalienable right to walk around the streets of any city or town with a loaded gun on my person - just in case." One information source quoted that there was 88 guns/100 people.......if my maths is right that only leave 12%+  of Americans who do not own guns, (many of course have their own arsenals).

I also think that the second amendment is something held dear to the hearts of many Americans.......this has made them a violent, gun loving society, many who still think that they are living in the days of the 'wild west'.......a bunch of would be, if they could be, cowboys. I mean what other, so called civilised country can boast 32 single gunman massacres since 2000, not to mention those that did not reach the dizzy heights of a massacre? ANSWER: NONE. No other country would even come near this unenviable record.                            Definitely a sad indictment of American society today.

My comments, of course, do not include our many loving brothers and sisters in America and others of the 12%+ that are not gun owners. We certainly await the time when Jehovah says: "Enough is enough!" and brings this wicked system to its end.

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42 minutes ago, John Lindsay Barltrop said:

We certainly await the time when Jehovah says: "Enough is enough!" and brings this wicked system to its end.

The U.S. Constitution's 2nd Amendment does not GIVE natural rights ... it only protects them by force of law.

Everything that lives has the NATURAL right of self defense .... if he, or it, chooses to exercise it ... and can manage it.

...... even a cat has retractable claws.

The NATURAL right of self defense was not insured by the founders of the United States to protect us from belligerent deer.

Here is the acid test ..... If you could choose any country, at any time in history to live in ... what and when would you choose?

This is NOT a theoretical question.

If you could choose any country, at any time in history to live in ... what and when would you choose?

If you understand History and you are not delusional, the answer is here ... and now.

Like a brass plaque from a Nautical Supply House I have on my filing cabinet says. ...

"Pray towards Heaven

Row towards Shore".

 

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Just a little item that I copied from A BBC web site: "

"Organisers of gun giveaway competitions in the US have come under pressure following the Florida school shooting that killed 17 on Wednesday.

Republican politicians in Maryland and Kansas went ahead with their gun giveaways, while a county sheriff in North Carolina cancelled his raffle.

A children's baseball team defended its decision to continue with a fundraising effort, in which the winner will receive an AR-15 assault rifle.

That type of gun was used in Florida.

Gun sweepstakes - costing as little as $5 (£3.50) per ticket - are a part of life in some parts of the US, with the National Rifle Association having held raffles for decades.

Organisers have hit back at the online criticism, saying their fundraising events were planned months ago."

Are some Americans really that sick.......and they say: "I wonder why we have this problem?" "What's gone wrong in our society?"...............I think the fruitage is self evident!!!

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I left my 18 shot 9mm pistol on my front porch swing, with two additional magazines for a whole afternoon ... and to my surprise ... it did NOT KILL ANYONE.

Years ago.... Australia was disarmed ... and the murder rate by knives, baseball bats and poison went up.

... I am not counting the Tasmanian Massacre where a rifle turned in to the police according to law was sold illegally BY THE POLICE to an assasin, and was used in the massacre.

Crazy or EVIL people kill innocent people.

Guns by themselves have no sentient will.

What part of DUH ... do you not understand?

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Going back to my original comment about public hangings ... the LAST public hanging in the United States was in 1936.

THAT is when the Liberal Snowflakes began to accumulate.

Since public hangings were stopped,  the dull, and stupid, and crazy have been accumulating like snowballs on a downhill slope.

 

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YOU  REALLY  CARRIED  A  WEAPON  AS  JW ????   hmmm.... >:(9_9

STILL  MANY  PEOPLE  HAVE  TO  DIE  BEC. YOUR  CRAZY  LAWS  IN  THE  USA ;-((   poor people  and  kids 1f625.png

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Wrong question Queen Esther!

I feel it should have been; "Is Rook really one of Jehovah's Witnesses?????" I think he just likes "stirring the pot." I maybe wrong!!!

One wonders WHY he would have a gun in the first place!!!...........and a 9mm to boot, with at least 2 extra magazines, [I am not unfamiliar with 9mm weaponry, in a  past life I had a German Luger, (The Japaneses also used to make one and they had a booby trap on theirs) - about 64 years ago - and In Australia, back then, you had to have a permit to obtain 9mm ammo - at 14 years of age I obviously could not get a permit - I used to steal it], .......are you looking to start a war somewhere.....what else do you have in your armoury???

Just on this subject..........what other country in the world has the unenviable record of the USA for massacres/murders/deaths/injuries from guns and/or rifles from single gunmen, who are the, so called, 'ordinary' Joe Citizen. The answer is very simple. Too many 'cowboys' that think they still live in the days of the wild west........NO COUNTRY comes anywhere near those statistics.

Oops! I forgot this does not really have anything to do with guns.........or does America have a lot more 'crazies' AND MORE GUNS than any other country.

I am sure Jehovah understands your motives - but, I certainly don't. Still I am only human - and imperfect at that.

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4 hours ago, John Lindsay Barltrop said:

.....this has made them a violent, gun loving society, many who still think that they are living in the days of the 'wild west'.......a bunch of would be, if they could be, cowboys.

Americans are a curious blend of gunslinger and crybaby.

3 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

What part of DUH ... do you not understand?

The part that guarantees schoolchildren will continue to be shot in school while you refuse to give an inch to the other side, and they the same to you. It is not as though you haven't had plenty of time to pound them into submission, is it?

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Give them a beak TT..........they don't really know why they are the only country in the world with this problem..........I mean what other country has had 32 massacres by a single gunman since 2000.........about 88% of Americans have guns........and it appears that they cam walk around cities and towns with loaded guns on their person...........and they still don't know why they have a problem.

BUT, "its not the guns that are the problem; its the people".............of course its not the guns, what a cop out that is..........most, just do not get it...........if they did not have the guns, life would certainly appear to be more meaningful.

A lot of them want to be John Wayne, Gary Cooper, et al.............or they blame the 'crazies'.........all I can say is, boy! they must have a lot of crazies!!!!

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1 hour ago, John Lindsay Barltrop said:

they don't really know why they are the only country in the world with this problem

I just kick back at Rook because he is  - well, because he is. But it is not as though I do not concede that there is a 2nd amendment or that I push for its repeal - it is just his relentless cheerleading for guns that grates on the sensibilities.

I did read a source from Russia decrying the barbarism of Americans with their guns. Someone replied 'how many Russians have died because they were powerless when government thugs showed up to corral them?'

So I see the other side. It is not our concern, anyway, as we stand for something else. But I am reasonably confident that not one of the 17 children who died thanked his lucky stars for the 2nd amendment before he breathed his last.

All the children want to do is go to school and not get shot up. Is that too much to ask? It happens anywhere else. They shouldn't have to propose the solution. That is for their mentors to figure out. That one kid said it right - and he has been apparantly preened and given front stage by a manipulative left - but nonetheless he said it right: "We are the children. You are the adults. You are supposed to protect us."

To quote James again: 

What part of DUH ... do you not understand?

 

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During World War II, the Japanese Military High Command  considered invading America ( and actually did have troops stationed in Alaska for awhile, in the Aleutian Islands ...) but that suggestion was nixed when it was pointed out that "EVERYONE" in America was armed, and the Japanese soldiers would be shot at from behind every tree, rock and building, without letup.

Those that do not read and understand History are by nature Liberal Snowflakes, because of a world view that is NOT based on reality, the way reality really is.

I, too, look forward to the time when the tools of self defense are not mis-used, or even necessary ... but that is NOT NOW.

Only a fool deliberately makes himself helpless.

 

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7 hours ago, Queen Esther said:

STILL  MANY  PEOPLE  HAVE  TO  DIE  BEC. YOUR  CRAZY  LAWS  IN  THE  USA ;-((   poor people  and  kids 1f625.png

Germany for a hundred years has had EXCELLENT and almost total civilian gun control ... so had the old Soviet Union, and the Empire of Japan ... and now the Russian Federation.  So does North Korea, and China.

... and as far as it is possible for a person to be peaceable with all people , we all remember 75 years ago what a comforting people the Germans and Japanese were.

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