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The posted question suggest that God is vengeful and unjust. If atheism is at play, there is no biblical solution, other than to suggest how well has humanity dealt with itself. A simple biblical

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That is why i think we are a long way from Armageddon. I think life earthwide has to get massively worse so that everyone will have to decide which way they are going, serving God or against Him. 

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@Jack Ryan Only the wicked and those who are for lawlessness will succumb to God's Judgement, as with those when Jesus has the scepter in his hand and eventually hands it back to God his Father.

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23 hours ago, Jack Ryan said:

Some god of justice...

That is why i think we are a long way from Armageddon. I think life earthwide has to get massively worse so that everyone will have to decide which way they are going, serving God or against Him. 

Whilst we can sit at our computers like this, life is toooo easy. As for JW's just obeying orders, that is tooooo easy too. 

And i know for sure that a lot of JW's 'just get their hours in', to please the Elders, not in true service to Jehovah. Having been on the ministry and seen them looking at their watches to see if the time is up. 

No, it has to become more difficult, more effort needs to be needed to prove a person's stance. Like Russia maybe but Earthwide. 

Everyone losing their homes, Kingdom halls being closed down by governments earthwide. And of course the fall of Babylon the Great has to come first. 

When Armageddon is really here I think the judgement by Jesus Christ will be short and swift as people will have chosen their side. 

Whether it will be brutal or not can be argued, but i think the scriptures say that birds of prey will feed of the bodies for a long time. 

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@Jack Ryan Only the wicked and those who are for lawlessness will succumb to God's Judgement, as with those when Jesus has the scepter in his hand and eventually hands it back to God his Father.

Those who are resurrected clearly will have a chance, since God's Judgement will continue onward until his adversary is no more.

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"everyone gets a second chance"

There seems to be some kind of fallacy in this idea.

It is a very old criticism of the notion that the "resurrection of the unrighteous" will allow humans who have not served the Creator acceptably under Satanic domination of this earth to have an opportunity to do so during the MIllenial reign of Christ, by means of an earthly resurrection. 

This is termed (by some) as a "second chance". The derogatory term "Second Chancers" was used in the 19th century  of Bible Students who believed in this application of Paul's words (Acts 24:15).

But, there is no "second" chance as such. There is only one opportunity to get life.

 

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On 14/10/2018 at 21:18, Jack Ryan said:

Some god of justice...

VOCÊ ACHA MESMO QUE... 

Adão e Eva serão ressuscitados, como por exemplo:

os habitantes de Sodoma, Gomorra.... 

os fariseus que rejeitaram Jesus e os ensinos dos apóstolos...

como também... aqueles primeiros cristãos que se apostataram rejeitando os ensinos deles (iguais aos cristãos de hoje) 

VOCÊ ACHA MESMO QUE TÊM LÓGICA ELES TEREM UMA SEGUNDA CHANCE? 

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1 hour ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

Remember Jesus' words "After I leave, wolves will enter in among the flock ..." (paraphrased from memory).

A case could be made according to prevailing logic that means "All dogs go to Heaven".

I mean ... isn't a dog a kind of a wolf?

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Não entendo bem esse humor britânico! ?

Mas... será que...quis dizer que... se considera como sendo esse lobo descrito por Jesus? ?

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2 hours ago, Querotevernoparaiso said:

DO YOU EVEN THINK THAT ... 

Adam and Eve will be resurrected, for example:

the inhabitants of Sodom, Gomorra .... 

the Pharisees who rejected Jesus and the teachings of the apostles ...

as well as ... those early Christians who apostatized by rejecting their teachings (equal to today's Christians) 

DO YOU THINK THAT YOU HAVE A LOGIC THEY HAVE A SECOND CHANCE? 

So when Jesus said "Father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing"  

Who was Jesus asking God to forgive. Was it the Romans ? Was it the Israelites that shouted for him to be put to death ? 

Was it the criminals either side of him ? Who ?

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@James Thomas Rook Jr. At least it will not be like his other doctrine I studied about to be inaccurate known as the Rapture whereas people will, bodily and stripped to the bares, is taken up out of the earth, heavenwards into heaven while some remain behind, other who believe in a war or some kind of zombie apocalypse will take place - For truly, truly I say to thee, this doctrine is accursed.

That being said, I believe Jesus had more in his words regarding wolves among the sheep, false ones among the true, and the like.

 

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