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    • By JW Insider
      Saudi Arabia, with the help of the United States and the UK, has been directly and indirectly killing civilians in Yemen and creating a humanitarian crisis that has become so bad, that the United States had begun to distance itself from direct involvement. This started back nearly a decade ago when the ruling party of Yemen was a very small minority that was very pro-Saudi. Yemen is poor, but still had economic deals with Saudi Arabia that were profitable to the Saudi's. That small minority rulership was ousted and this created kind of a civil war in Yemen, with the Saudi's backing the ousted party.
      The new party is sometimes called the Houthi rebels, but most of it has more likely been just a group of civilians who have realized that there is more than enough majority support from a larger portion of the country (for a show of strength) than there was in the small ousted minority. But Saudi Arabia has billions in weapons that it bought from the U.S. But Saudi Arabia was short on jet pilots, refueling tankers, military intelligence agencies, willing armies, etc. So the US offered jet pilots, military intelligence, targeting, refueling stations, etc., so that the bombing of Yemen is as much a US operation as a Saudi one.
      This has created more starvation, more disease, and more "accidental bombings" of children's school buses, hospitals, weddings, funerals, etc., for as long as the US was helping with the targets.  Of course, the Yemen people have been getting some help. Since the US helped to create the great humanitarian crisis through such terrorism, the Yemen people can't ask for help from the US, and have therefore gone to enemies of the US. (Iran? Russia? etc.) This is perfect for the US, because the Boltons and Pompeos have been able to say that it is therefore necessary to offer enough help to Saudi Arabia because anti-US forces must be dealt with somehow. 
      Also, we can probably expect that this particular "win" by Yemen in hitting Saudi Arabia in the pocketbook (Aramco oil) will result in a way for the Boltons and Pompeos to get back into a more hawkish position. Therefore it will probably get more Western press than previous "wins" by Yemen when missiles have slipped through the cracks. Although Bolton is personally out for the moment, his positions have a better chance of still winning out over Trump's recent moderations, and forcing Trump to go back to a Bolton/Pompeo position on Yemen, Iran, etc. This works for as long as Yemen is always tied as a proxy to Iran/Russia etc.
      https://www.wsj.com/articles/drone-strikes-spark-fires-at-saudi-oil-facilities-11568443375
       
    • By LNN
      When the 3,280-feet-tall (1,000-meter-tall) Jeddah Tower, in Saudi Arabia, opens in 2020, it will knock Dubai's iconic Burj Khalifa off its throne as the tallest skyscraper in the world by 236 feet (72 meters).

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    • By admin
      The US resident of Virginia, journalist and political dissident went inside the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul on Oct. 2 with his fiancée waiting outside for some official paperwork allowing him to marry..and reportedly never came out. Turkey's blamed Saudi Arabia for killing him, but Saudi Arabia's denied wrongdoing.
      Why it matters: Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman could find it tough to attract foreign investors when the latest U.S. intelligence suggests he ordered Khashoggi's abduction, per WaPo.
      Sponsors and speakers are pulling out of the kingdom's Future Investment Initiative (aka "Davos in the Desert"). The New York Times said it won't be a media sponsor, and Arianna Huffington no longer plans to attend. Ex-Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz and former European Commission VP Neelie Kroes both pulled out from advising Saudi Arabia's $500 billion Neom megacity project until more is known.  
      Turkish officials reportedly have obtained recordings proving how Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi was killed. The Washington Post reports American officials are aware of recordings showing a Saudi security team detaining Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate and then killing and dismembering his body. Weijia Jiang reports. .
       
       
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      The Saudis and other major oil producing countries agreed to lift crude output this weekend, which might help slow down surging prices. 
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      Elsewhere in Saudi Arabia: As of Sunday, women are now allowed to drive a car. According to Bloomberg, the move could add $90 billion to economic output by 2030 (by encouraging more women to enter the labor force).
       
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    • By admin
      Saudi government officials were involved in supporting the 9/11 attackers. That's according to a former member of an independent commission, set up to investigate the terror attacks. He was one of the people who saw the unredacted final report.
       
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      Earlier this week a Saudi political analyst told RT’s Arab networkthe kingdom has a nuclear weapon.
      Dahham Al-‘Anzi made the claim while saying Saudi Arabia is engaged in an effort to “minimize the Iranian threat in the Levant and Syria.”
      Although Saudi Arabia has officially denied it has a nuclear weapons program and has publicly stated it opposes nuclear weapons in the Middle East, it has funded a military nuclear program and received scientific assistance from the United States and Pakistan.
      If you don’t want to believe him, perhaps you will believe the former director of the CIA counter-terrorism operations center.  He told Fox Business that everyone in the intelligence world knows the Saudis have nukes…
       
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