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@Kosonen The news clip is of the MSM. ISIS has and always will be bothering the Syrians regardless of what the Americans are doing. It should be a clue to you and many as to the reason why they do not

@Kosonen If we could say we were still waiting for specific prophetic events to occur in advance of the final judgment at Armageddon, then we would be saying that the Bible is lying. The Bible says th

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@Kosonen Always prepared. Also next time, be very careful of posting information from the MSM, mainly when it comes to France for the MSM has been spreading misinformation about the Yellow Jackets, they speak of them in a bad light, not realizing that there are truthers out there who exposed their false information about what is going on in France.

 

Moreover, the Yellow Jacket Movement has been spreading to areas outside of Paris, outside of France, furthermore, there are more Nationalist going into the group as with others who have ill intent, resulting in the original movement to look bad in the eyes of the MSM to exploit it.

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I want to inform you about an other prophecy that today begun its fulfillment. It is written in Daniel 11:29  “At the time appointed he[USA] will return and come against the south[Syria or ISIS or both]. But this time will not be as it was before, 30  for the ships of Kitʹtim[Russian ships that use Kittim=Cyprus for refueling etc.] will come against him [USA], and he will be humbled.“He[USA, Trump] will go back and hurl denunciations* against the holy covenant+ and act effectively; and he will go back and will give attention to those leaving the holy covenant. 

Today it has been announced that USA will get out from Syria. That is what it means "He will go back" in verse 30. 

So after the American troop withdrawal from Syria happens the next thing will be according to God's word the begining of the persecution of Christians, especially Jehovah's witnesses. We are right before this according to Daniel 11:30:

 USA, Trump will "hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively; and he will go back and will give attention to those leaving the holy covenant. 31  And arms* will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary, the fortress[WT WARWICK CENTER], and remove the constant feature[THE CONSTANT FLOW OF SPIRITUAL FOOD].“And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.

This will lead to the purification of the Jehovah's witnesses. I am really looking forward for that.

Daniel11:33 contiunes to tell: "And those having insight among the people will impart understanding to the many."(......)35  And some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and a whitening until the time of the end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

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@Kosonen The news clip is of the MSM. ISIS has and always will be bothering the Syrians regardless of what the Americans are doing. It should be a clue to you and many as to the reason why they do not give you the number of US soldiers in Syria. The Americans did little themselves because they were helping, so to speak, a terrorist front who were among the rebels.

That being said, no one will be forgetting that this is just another repeat of history, as it was in Bush's day and in Obama's day, moreover, US allies, Kurds, care nothing more than to take up land for themselves, reasons why they allow people, even Christians to be defiled by ISIS militants.

 

The biggest problem right now is Israel, for they do not like the idea of Iranians being in Syria, and this pull out will only anger them.

 

Do not always believe what the MSM is telling you, otherwise you will end up as speaking of it as though it is the truth.

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I am not so much concerned about the geopolitical situation in Syria. My main interest is to distinguish fulfilments of prophecies in the Bible. And to know in advance what comes next. And in this situation what comes next will have very serious consequences for those who are in a holy covenant with God, aka Jehovah's witnesses. 

And as I understand Daniel 11:33, there will be changes in the leadership of the Jehovah's witnesses. Instead of a hierarchical structure "those having insight among the people will impart understanding to the many".

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@Kosonen Agreed, but stuff like this should concern you, granted you did link those videos. The MSM has preached preached the rebels are the heroes, bu in reality they are the villains. There is a ton of evidence as to why such sources you profess are not in the light of truth. If there is one thing the US wanted in Syria but they cannot have, it is something of high value to which you and others use today. As for Israel, they have a burning hatred for the Iranians. And in this ordeal, Christians are effected.

Other than that, regarding Christendom, the enemy has played their cards on the table for in the coming years people will be effected greatly.

Next time, do not trust the MSM that much, not all the time they speak the truth

Know this, the Kurds in the first video are US led allies - The Rebels.

 

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On 11/6/2018 at 2:48 PM, Kosonen said:

According to my current understanding of the exact time we are in relative to the prophecies in the Bible, the above mentioned scripture is going to get its fulfillment.

@Kosonen If we could say we were still waiting for specific prophetic events to occur in advance of the final judgment at Armageddon, then we would be saying that the Bible is lying. The Bible says that this "day" will come as a complete surprise, as a thief in the night. That final parousia/visitation/revelation/manifestation/synteleia/judgment --that every eye will see--  will come as a complete surprise, effectively without warning to Christians or the rest of the world. It  just as the final days of Sodom and Gomorrah came upon the men, women and children of that day without any warning. The initial prophecy of Matthew 24, relates to both Daniel and Revelation, and was about the overall results to the nation of Israel for their the rejection of Christ. (rejecting his  ministry, rejection of his life [clamoring for Roman execution],  and rejection of his resurrection.) At any point after that "parousia" upon Jerusalem and Judea, the final parousia upon the world could come at any time, "immediately." There would be know secret prophecies to figure out because that day (parousia, synteleia, judgment, destruction, revelation, manifestation) would be a surprise; it would appear suddenly and unmistakably, like lightning.

  • (Luke 17:24-30) . . .For just as lightning flashes from one part of heaven to another part of heaven, so the Son of man will be in his day. 25 First, however, he must undergo many sufferings and be rejected by this generation. . . . 28 Likewise, just as it occurred in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building. 29 But on the day that Lot went out of Sodʹom, it rained fire and sulfur from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 It will be the same on that day when the Son of man is revealed.
  • (Matthew 24:36-44) 36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38 For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39 and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken along and the other abandoned. 41 Two women will be grinding at the hand mill; one will be taken along and the other abandoned. 42 Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 “But know one thing: If the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 On this account, you too prove yourselves ready, because the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it.

The only warning we have is that it WILL happen, and this day is closer every day. We will not be able to look at signs and prophecies to figure out anything about the time period: the day and hour, or the "times and seasons."

  • (Acts 1:7) 7 He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction.

Rather than use these scriptures only as an excuse as to why we continue to make the same mistakes the early disciples made, we should learn the actual lesson they offer. That we cannot know anything more about the times and seasons.

Notice that in Luke's account, there is only ONE thing that would be a true prior sign before "THE SIGN" that would finally and "immediately" appear in heaven. That was "(Luke 21:25) First, however, he must undergo many sufferings and be rejected by this generation." Similarly, Jesus said that the "sign of Jonah" is all that would be given to that generation as a warning. That was also the same sign of Jesus rejection (execution and resurrection). It was THAT sign of Jonah (picturing Christ's ministry, death, and resurrection) that fulfilled the crushing of the final world power. It's what finally sent Satan hurtling from his position in heaven down to the earth, so that all of us have a period of tribulation in this world due to Satan:

  • (Luke 10:18) 18 At that he said to them: “I see Satan already fallen like lightning from heaven."
  • (John 12:31-33) 31 Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. 32 And yet I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all sorts of men to myself.” 33 This he was really saying to indicate what sort of death he was about to die.

  • (John 16:33) 33 I have said these things to you so that by means of me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation, but take courage! I have conquered the world.”

We can quickly test the inspired utterances, and know if they originate with God. We know it is not scriptural if a person tries to use prophetic time periods to identify the times and seasons we are living in, especially if they are looking to some current or future event as the beginning of a time period so they can say: "The time is at hand."

  • (Luke 21:8) . . .He said: “Look out that you are not misled, for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time is near.’ . . .
  • (1 John 4:1) . . .Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

If a person, or even an entire religion tries to present itself as having special knowledge of the times and seasons, we can know immediately that they have overstepped, and therefore have become unfaithful and indiscreet. After all, Paul said:

  • (2 Thessalonians 2:1, 2) 2 However, brothers, concerning the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be alarmed either by an inspired statement or by a spoken message or by a letter appearing to be from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here.

Paul lived at a time when there really was another fulfillment of prophecy on its way, prior to 70 C.E. But he also knew that Jesus had said that people would be eating and drinking and going about their lives so that the end would be a surprise to them, and therefore he knew that watching for specific signs (such as wars and rumors of wars, earthquakes, famines, pestilence, etc.) could not help them foretell the one SIGN that Jesus responded to in his answer to Matthew 24:3. But notice that Paul did use this one prediction about a "man" of lawlessness, an "apostasy"  just as Jesus had predicted in Matthew 24:

  • Matthew 24:11,12, Many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold. . . . 23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. 25 Look! I have forewarned you.

John, who significantly was likely writing after the year 70, says that this was already fulfilled, and this is how Christians knew they were already in the "last days" the "last hour":

  • (1 John 2:18) 18 Young children, it is the last hour, and just as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared, from which fact we know that it is the last hour.

So it's true that all these ideas have a counterpart in our own day, just as they have had a counterpart in all of history since the first-century congregation. We have been living among these "deluding influences" ever since Satan was cast down through Christ's death in the first century.

  • (2 Thessalonians 2:6-9) 6 And now you know what is acting as a restraint, so that he will be revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work, but only until the one who is right now acting as a restraint is out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is by the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and wonders.
  • (Hebrews 2:14, 15) 14 Therefore, since the “young children” are sharers of blood and flesh, he also similarly shared in the same things, so that through his death he might bring to nothing the one having the means to cause death, that is, the Devil, 15 and that he might set free all those who were held in slavery all their lives by their fear of death.

The point is to keep conquering Satan down to our last breath in this system, which is only possible due to what Jesus has already conquered. In his day, Jesus also conquered all governments and by taking out of them a government, a kingdom of its own.

  • (Colossians 1:13) . . .He rescued us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of his beloved Son,

So it should be very possible to already see the spiritual fulfillment of Jesus conquering the world, from way back in the time of the Roman empire. There will be a physical fulfillment against all governments, too, but we need not look to try to discover the time of any specific physical fulfillment against a future manifestation of Rome or other bestial world powers. When Jesus and the first century congregation conquered Rome, that was all the prophetic fulfillment needed to fulfill all the time-related prophecies of Daniel and Revelation. We are not to look to any future time periods because looking to discover any time related fulfillments would negate the idea that the end comes as a thief in the night.

  • (1 Thessalonians 5:1, 2) 5 Now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you. 2 For you yourselves know very well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night.
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