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30 minutes ago, Jack Ryan said:

It's crazy to me that now a lap-dance is fornication/porneia. Which means it is also grounds for divorce!

It says: "Depending on the facts of the actual situation, this COULD constitute sexual immorality". In other words if the actual situation involved intercourse/oral sex, then that would constitute sexual immorality.......(and would be grounds for divorce).

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People should be concerned about how these things look Jehovah not just to men.  If we get the mind of Christ, we would see the seriousness of this lawless act.   Some scriptures that shed light of this kind of behaviour are:

1 Thessalonians 5:22-24 King James Version (KJV)

22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

 

(Psalm 97:10) 10  " O you who love Jehovah, hate what is bad. He is guarding the lives of his loyal ones;. . ."


(1 Peter 4:3, 4)" For the time that has passed by is sufficient for you to have done the will of the nations when you carried on in acts of brazen conduct, unbridled passions, overdrinking, wild parties, drinking bouts, and lawless idolatries. 4 They are puzzled that you do not continue running with them in the same decadent course of debauchery, so they speak abusively of you."
 

(Proverbs 13:19, 20) . . . 20 " The one walking with the wise will become wise, But the one who has dealings with the stupid will fare badly."

 

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Sorry i find some of this funny, but of course it isn't funny from God's viewpoint.

Any true Christian, well in my opinion, would not even enter such a place of 'entertainment'. 

But then I don't even drink alcohol and never go into pubs / bars, as i see no need for any on it.  

 

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7 hours ago, Melinda Mills said:

People should be concerned about how these things look Jehovah not just to men.  If we get the mind of Christ, we would see the seriousness of this lawless act. 

 

14 hours ago, Anna said:

It says: "Depending on the facts of the actual situation, this COULD constitute sexual immorality". In other words if the actual situation involved intercourse/oral sex, then that would constitute sexual immorality.......(and would be grounds for divorce).

So why then does said practice have to be defined? Have they run out of material/spiritual food, kinda like tv shows sometimes? 

Is it going to be in the next wt that murder might be a disfellowshiping offence?

They created more questions then the answer they gave. Silly really.

 

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21 hours ago, Shiwiii said:

So why then does said practice have to be defined?

Obviously there are some who push the boundaries and think it's ok as long as there is no actual intercourse/oral sex involved. You know, they rationalize.... a bit like Clinton, when he said he wasn't being unfaithful to his wife because oral sex isn't really sex.

The WT wouldn't have printed this unless it was a problem.

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It seems the GB or some JW's just love to think about and talk about SEX 

We've had masterbation talked about here. 

We've had oral sex talked about here.

We've had tight 'pants' / trousers showing off 'body parts', talked about here. 

Now lap dancing. 

It is slightly funny but also a bit worrying. Are the GB or some JW's, perverts, that they cannot stop thinking about or talking about SEX.

Seems to remind me of an Otis Redding song, something about 'You don't miss your water , till your well is dry'.

Someone here missing more than their water ?  :) 

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In the Hebrew scriptures it was necessary to discuss things relating to sex fairly graphically.  No beating around the bush. Jehovah wanted his people to be holy so he had to say in detail what he wanted and didn't want. Jehovah is not shy.

"(Leviticus 20:10-21) . . .who commits adultery with another man’s wife: The one who commits adultery with the wife of his fellow man should be put to death without fail, the adulterer and the adulteress. 11 A man who lies down with his father’s wife has exposed his father to shame. Both of them should be put to death without fail. Their own blood is upon them. 12 If a man lies down with his daughter-in-law, both of them should be put to death without fail. They have violated what is natural. Their own blood is upon them. 13 “‘If a man lies down with a male the same as one lies down with a woman, both of them have done a detestable thing. They should be put to death without fail. Their own blood is upon them. 14 “‘If a man takes a woman and her mother, it is an obscene act. They should burn him and them in the fire, so that obscene conduct may not continue among you. 15 “‘If a man has intercourse with a beast, he should be put to death without fail, and you should kill the beast. 16 If a woman approaches any beast to have intercourse with it, you must kill the woman and the beast. They should be put to death without fail. Their own blood is upon them. 17 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his sister, the daughter of his father or the daughter of his mother, and he sees her nakedness and she sees his nakedness, it is a disgrace. They must be cut off before the eyes of the sons of their people. He has exposed his sister to shame. He should answer for his error. 18 “‘If a man lies down with a menstruating woman and has sexual relations with her, both he and she have exposed her flow of blood. Both of them must be cut off from among their people. 19 “‘You must not have sexual relations with your mother’s sister or your father’s sister, because that would be exposing a blood relative to shame. They should answer for their error. 20 A man who lies down with his uncle’s wife has exposed his uncle to shame. They should answer for their sin. They should die childless. 21 If a man takes his brother’s wife, it is something abhorrent. He has exposed his brother to shame. They should become childless."

People are doing all these things now to a greater degree, so it needs to be discussed. In first century the Bible said fornication was being practised by a member in the congregation which was not heard of in the pagan community. Imagine all the perverted things being practised with all the latest technology (sex dolls etc.) and depraved standards.)

(1 Corinthians 5:1) . . .among you, and such immorality as is not even found among the nations—of a man living with his father’s wife. 
 

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10 minutes ago, Outta Here said:

You too, it appears.

Just pointing out the facts that the GB / Writing dept' seem to need to write about it all.

I would think a true Christian has enough advice and direction in God's word. 

But the GB obviously needs to think up something to write about to put up a smoke screen for them to hide behind. 

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31 minutes ago, Outta Here said:

You have a higher % of sextalk in your postings than WT material though.

That is a pointless accusation as usual from you.

And as W/t material has been in production for far longer than i've been on this forum, you are obviously wrong.

But for person that hides behind a pussy, I don't expect anything better :) 

 

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