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      According to the GB, the parable of the Faithful Slave possibly becoming “Wicked”, is only a warning given by Christ.  What about the “foolish virgins”?
      “The parable does not teach that a large number of the anointed would prove unfaithful and need to be replaced. Rather, it serves as a warning that each anointed Christian has the full capacity to choose either a course of preparedness and vigilance or a course of folly and unfaithfulness. Jesus exhorted: “Prove yourselves ready.” ( Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) Regardless of our hope, Jesus requires all of us to prepare our heart for faithful service and to meet the same standard of watchfulness. Our Christian Life and Ministry—Meeting Workbook—2018 
      It’s very possible, even according to the WT, that the “virgins” could pursue a course of “folly and unfaithfulness”. But replaced? Knowing that the number “144,000” is most likely a deeply symbolic number of a symbolic book, I don’t believe so.   Rev 14:1-3  Also understanding that there were five virgins who were found “foolish” and five who were “wise” could very well signify those who are “armed” for battle in Armageddon. Each side are “gathered and collected together” according to the Arabic meaning of “five”.  Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
       These terms seems to signify Armageddon’s war between “kings of the earth” (Rev 1:5), which is fought between those “virgins” who have ‘collected and connected’ with Christ as his Bride, and those who continue to “arm” themselves with Satan’s lies by buying oil/spirit from another source – the false prophet/Harlot and her Beast of Revelation chapter 13.  Rev 17:18; 19:19  Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
       
       David Splane recently made a broadcasting video on the ten virgins of Matt 25:1-13
      He states:
       “In the parable there is an interval between the cry, “here is the bridegroom” and the coming of the Bridegroom.  Now, what about the fulfillment.  When do you think the cry went up, ‘here is the Bridegroom’?    
      You’re right.   1914”
      Just thirteen years ago, Watchtower stated: 
      Then in 1919 something unexpected happened. We read: “Right in the middle of the night there arose a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Be on your way out to meet him.’ Then all those virgins rose and put their lamps in order.” ( Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) Just when things seemed darkest, there was a call to get active! In 1918, Jesus, “the messenger of the covenant,” had come to Jehovah’s SPIRITUAL TEMPLE to inspect and cleanse God’s congregation. ( Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ) Now, anointed Christians needed to go out and meet him in the earthly courtyards of that temple. It was time for them to “shed forth light.”— Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. .  Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  
      Apparently, Watchtower decided it didn’t happen in 1919, but “new light” shines on 1914, according to Splane. Let’s see when it has really occurred.  When Watchtower mentions the anointed must go out and meet Jesus in the “earthly courtyards of that temple”, they are indirectly and in a rather hazy way, referring to Rev 11:1-3
      “Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, FOR IT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE GENTILES. And they will TREAD the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. I will grant my two witnesses authority to prophesy for 1,260 days, dressed in sackcloth.” 
      The “holy city”, Zion, is the promised “Jerusalem above”, and God’s Temple. Its members are spiritual “Israel”, the anointed priesthood under the New Covenant.  In Rev 11:2 “Gentiles” “tread” on the holy city.  An invasive group of people not part of spiritual “Israel” are treading upon and subduing “Israel”, the special possession of God.   Rom 9:6; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 3:12    Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      The graphic Bible definition of “tread”:
      A.                 to trample, crush with the feet
      B.                 to advance by setting foot upon, tread upon: to encounter successfully the greatest perils from the machinations and persecutions with which Satan would fain thwart the preaching of the gospel
      C.                 to tread under foot, trample on, i.e. to treat with insult and contempt: to desecrate the holy city by devastation and outrage
      According to Watchtower, “trampling” has been ongoing for centuries down to this day by Christendom’s clergy, as the Man of Lawlessness. Yet we see during the last days, it rebelliously “sits”/”stands” or rules, over the Temple of God.  2 Thess 2:3,4; Dan 11:36,37; Rev 13:1,2  God’s temple “stones” are found within the Watchtower where a spiritual peaceful “paradise” and security are promised, captivating them with “empty philosophy”.  Col 2:8; Rev 13:10   Logically, we should find the Man of Lawlessness where the Temple of God resides, persecuting and treading “under foot” with “insults and contempt”, God’s living stones of His Temple.  Could it happen within a perceived spiritual paradise? 1 Thess 5:3; Ezek 13:10,15,16  
        Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      The treading or trampling of the holy city, has another aspect to it. It brings an end to the “constant feature”/“daily sacrifice”, or “sacrifice of praise” to be performed by the holy priesthood. 1 Pet 2:5,9; Heb 13:15  I am sure JWs believe that their “preaching work” is their daily sacrifice of praise.  You believe this effort has been amply blessed by God even today. Has Christendom’s clergy done so much damage to you that your preaching work has been eliminated? No.  Who’s sacrifices of praise are then being dissolved? The book of Daniel isn’t referring to all JW’s, but only to the “holy ones”, the holy priesthood/Temple of “Israel”.  
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. “His ARMED FORCES will rise up to desecrate the TEMPLE FORTRESS and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will SET UP the ABOMINATION that causes desolation.  Dan 11:31
      The “armed forces” are the Gentiles of Revelation 11:2, treading on the Temple/priesthood.  Rev 9:1-6  Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
       “So when you see the ABOMINATION of desolation, spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place” (let the reader understand),”  Matt 24:15
      Note:  Watchtower’s Greek Kingdom Interlinear says, “THE holy place” (specifically defined as “the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc “) while NWT says, “A holy place”.  Such generalization allows for deceitful diversion from THE ONLY holy place of God – His “living temple”.  2 Cor 6:16  
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Do you, reader, understand?  Besides many other scriptures, The Man of Lawlessness and its actions is outlined in Revelation 11:1-3, Dan 11:31, and Matt 24:15. 
      Ezek 44:6-9 tells us why it is an “abomination”
       “Now say to the rebellious, to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “O house of Israel, let Us have no more of all your abominations. 7 When you brought in foreigners, uncircumcised in heart and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in My sanctuary to defile it—My house—and when you offered My food, the fat and the blood, then they broke My covenant because of all your abominations. 8 And you have not kept charge of My holy things, but you have set others to keep charge of My sanctuary for you.” 9 Thus says the Lord God: “No foreigner, uncircumcised in heart or uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter My sanctuary, including any foreigner who is among the children of Israel”
      Read also 2 Chron 23:6; Num 3:10; Lam 1:10    Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      Using this description of an abomination in God’s House, and how others have taken on the role of priest, can you see the correlation? 
      Gentiles treading THE “holy city” (Rev 11:1,2),
       the abomination (“foreigners”) in THE temple fortress (Dan 11:31),
      the “abomination of desolation”/”disgusting thing in THE holy place” (Matt 24:15)
      Mark 13:14 reads:   “When you see the abomination of desolation standing where it should not be” (let the reader understand)
      All describe the same event spoken of in 2 Thess 2:4.  An exalted group of spiritually “uncircumcised” people have been given power to rule over God’s anointed priests and replace the “daily sacrifice”.  They rule over the Temple of God”, offering their own “daily sacrifice”.
      2 Thess 2:3,4 - “Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For THAT DAY will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the MAN OF LAWLESSNESS is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sitsin God’s temple, proclaiming that he himself is God.”
      What day is it speaking of? 
      “Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him: We ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to be easily upset or troubled, either by a prophecy or by a message or by a letter supposedly from us, ALLEGING THAT THE DAY OF THE LORD HAS COME”  2 Thess 2:1,2
      Splane said that day was in 1914.  The Watchtower also said it was 1919. 1874 is an even earlier date mentioned in Watchtower’s history as the arrival of the Bridegroom.   Although Paul issued this warning to the anointed in Christ since the first century, it is vital at this moment to understand JWs are being deceived by false prophesy. Matt 7:15; Rev 13:11   
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. To recap, the organization tells you, JWs, that the Man of Lawlessness has been revealed as Christendom’s clergy.  Christendom was to blame for “trampling” God’s holy people/Temple/priesthood, resulting in the cry that the Bridegroom had come to the Temple to inspect and cleanse his virgin Bride.  Matt 25:1  Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      However, the tide constantly changes in Watchtower literature. Note in the following quote how the holy place/temple being treaded upon has nothing to do with the ten virgins and the Bridegroom in the following WT statement, but is labeled as CHRISTENDOM! Here, the WT turns full circle to explain the “abomination”/disgusting thing/Man of Lawlessness, which as we’ve seen in Ezek 44:6-9 means “foreigners”, or “Gentiles”, taking over God’s House/Temple (Eph 2:20-22)…
      …as the UNITED NATIONS!
      In speaking of Matt 24:15, WT states:
      “In the first fulfillment, the “standing in a holy place” (Matt 24:15) occurred in 66 C.E. when the Roman (GENTILE) army (“the disgusting thing”) attacked Jerusalem and its temple (a place holy in the eyes of the Jews). In the larger fulfillment, the “standing” will occur when the UNITED NATIONS (the modern-day “disgusting thing”) attacks CHRISTENDOM (which is holy in the eyes of nominal Christians) and the rest of Babylon the Great. The same attack is described at  Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. . That event will be the beginning of the great tribulation. Wt 13/7/15 pp 3-8 par 6   The word, GENTILE is my addition to this quote.
      Jerusalem’s temple was not only a place holy in the eyes of the Jews, but to the Father.  Why would the second fulfillment be anything other than relating to the living Temple of God, and His spiritual “Jews”?  God’s Word is consistent in Truth. 
      Watchtower’s noted scripture of Revelation 17:16-18 speaks of “Babylon’s” Harlot daughters/false prophet and the Wild Beast of Revelation 13, which conquers the holy ones.  Rev 13:1; 17:9,12  It is the same beast that has come out of the abyss and “kills” the “two witnesses” - the faithful virgins of Christ - for their testimony to truth.  Rev 11:1-3,7; 17:5; 12:17  Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      The Wild Beast: “It began to speak blasphemies against God: to blaspheme His name and His dwelling — those who dwell in heaven. And it was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them. It was also given authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation.”  Rev 13:5-7
      Here we see more evidence describing the Man of Lawlessness sitting with authority over the Temple/”saints” of God….and all JWs.
       “When you see Jerusalem surrounded by ARMIES, then recognize that its desolation has come near.”  Luke 21:20
      When you see those under the promised covenant “New Jerusalem”/Temple of God surrounded by the army of “Gentiles” that Revelation 11:1,2 and Dan 11:31 speaks of, then recognize its desolation has come near. Gal 4:26; Rev 12:1  
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. There is only ONE Man of Lawlessness/disgusting thing today – a “Gentile” army/abomination in God’s Temple that has been put in charge of God’s sanctuary as Ezek 44:8 describes.  It thrives where this apostasy exists – the organization.  Elders “tread” on the Temple of God. Elders have been granted authority by a Wicked Slave to “keep charge” of God’s sanctuary/Temple, in the role of priest. They "keep charge" of the anointed Temple through their submission to comply with the elder's man-given authority to rule over them.   Matt 24:48-51 The Man of Lawless has been revealed, in true form and “machination” of Satan.    This false priesthood replaces God’s selected priesthood, to the blasphemous point that God’s holy people must obey them, or be “killed” – disfellowshipped.   John 16:2; Rev 11:3,7   Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
       
      Every defining element of the word “tread” listed above, explains and reveals how the Man of Lawlessness/elder body treads upon God’s holy priesthood at the approval of a Wicked Slave.   
      Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, “How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled—the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the REBELLION that causes desolation, the SURRENDER OF THE SANCTUARY and the trampling underfoot of the Lord’s people?”   Dan 8:13
      This is clarified by WT statements that I have repeatedly posted on this forum:
      “Representing (more specifically, “the giving over of” or “surrendering of”) the royal priesthood (“sanctuary”) are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not.  RATHER THAN CHALLENGE THEIR AUTHORITY (a false authority or “rebellion”), we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!”  Wt 02/8/1
      Did the anointed priesthood have any say in this arrangement?  Only the governing body has authorized their army with authority over God’s Temple. Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:14,15 As long as the authentic priesthood remains under this false rule, they have surrendered their ability to offer independent “daily sacrifices” of praise.  Dan 8:12  Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      Review how your Watchtower articles exalt the elder body by brazenly using scriptures that apply to the anointed body of Christ…
      “We will be helped to obey and HONOR those taking the lead if we remember that God himself has provided the elders.”   Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
       …and then “treat with insult and contempt” the anointed, “holy people” of God. 
      “If we give anointed ones too much PRAISE and attention, we would embarrass them. Or even worse, we could cause them to become proud.”  Wt 16/1 pp. 20-26 (please see paragraph 6)
      Do you realize that a synonym for the word “HONOR” is “PRAISE”?  You are expected to praise and honor men who have robbed God of His daily sacrifices! Mal 3:8,9   Can you see how your obedience to the organization requires that you must leave the anointed alone and focus your attention on the MAN OF LAWLESSNESS?  Rev 13:2,4   Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      Splane continues in his video stating the Bridegroom comes also in the Great Tribulation.  He says:
      “But the bridegroom didn’t come just then.  When does he come?  At the Great Tribulation.  How do we know.  We know, because in Matt 24 and 25 there are eight references of the coming of the Master and each and every one of them refer to the Great Tribulation.   So we’re talking about the Master returning, the Bridegroom coming at the GT and will he find the anointed with their lamps burning, or will they have let their light go out.  That is the simple question there.”
      It really isn’t so simple.  Each Watchtower date taught as the Master’s return was centered around false forecasts of the Great Tribulation and Armageddon. David Splane has saturated your mind with convoluted teachings about the coming of the Bridegroom; enough to give anyone a headache. Watchtower is hiding the true identity of the Man of Lawlessness by using the United Nations and Christendom as the scapegoat. This is the work of Satan, to disguise his plan of destruction against the anointed of God, by fabricating a lie and calling it “truth”.  2 Thess 2:9-12 This great “machination to thwart the preaching of the (TRUE) gospel” is why only a symbolic “five” virgins enter the Marriage Feast. Matt 25:8-10    Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      The ‘rising up’ (Dan 11:31 ) of the abomination/ disgusting thing that desecrates God’s Temple has been a gradual process accomplished through the two Beasts of Revelation 13. Rev 16:13-15    Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      It is NOW, that “a herald in the distance” announces the coming of the Bridegroom. Matt 17:11; Mal 3:1    Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      Did you notice how Splane doesn’t address who the herald could be?
      It is NOW that the Great Tribulation and Armageddon are at full roar. Outside the city gone “apostate”, the faithful virgins who were “killed” (disfellowshipped) for ‘shedding forth’ their light of truth are unafraid to offer their daily sacrifices before the one true God. Rev 11:3,7 There is no Gentile force to contend with, robbing them of eternal life in Christ. Matt 10:18-22,39 Instead of buying spiritual provisions from a wicked “House Steward”, they prefer to acquire “refined gold” from their one true Master, Jesus Christ. These virgins have realized and admitted their idolatrous sins to an idol/organization, and beg to be cleansed of all lies, by submitting to Christ’s refining words of Truth.  Rev 13:16,17; Rev 3:18; Hos 6:1; Mal 3:2-5     Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      If you return to Watchtower’s sited scripture about Matt 24:15 above, and where they site Rev 17:16-18, you will soon see further action of the Man of Lawlessness/elder body collaborating with anointed “ten horns/kings”:
                   (Rev 17:12,13 -   Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      “they will hate the PROSTITUTE (FALSE PROPHET of Rev 13:11). They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.  For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the BEAST their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled. 18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”  (“kings of the earth” are the anointed ones - Rev 1:5; 5:9,10)  
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. The governing body/Harlot/false prophet is about to go down – DISFELLOWSHIPPED.  Yet, before that time, if we perceive the “abomination”/”disgusting thing” standing in the “holy place”, we are to “flee to the mountains” – the symbolic “mountains”, and restored “Temple” of God.  Matt 24:15,16; Luke 21:21,22; Isa 43:1; Isa chapter 2  
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Going back to the initial quote from the WT leaders, remarking that the unfaithful virgins does not comprise a “large number”, scriptures give us a little insight regarding that number:
      Israel’s Light will become a fire,
      and its Holy One, a flame.
      In one day it will burn and consume Assyria’s thorns and thistles.
      18 He will completely destroy
      the glory of its forests and orchards
      as a sickness consumes a person.
      19 The remaining trees of its forest
      will be so few in number
      that a child could count them.”  Isa 10:17-19
       “Assyria” – Joel 1:2-4; Rev 9:1-12; Rev 13:6,7,18; 2 Thess 2:3,4,7,8 (Matt 13:22; Luke 3:9)   Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
       
      “Trees” – Matt 3:10; John 15:16; Luke 21:29-31; Ezek 34:27; 47:6,7; Rev 22:1,2   Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
       
      On that day the remnant of Israel and the survivors of the house of Jacob will no longer depend on the one who struck them, but they will faithfully depend on the Lord, the Holy One of Israel.
      21 The remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob,
      to the Mighty God.
      22 Israel, even if your people were as numerous
      as the sand of the sea,
      only a remnant of them will return.
      Destruction has been decreed;
      justice overflows.
      23 For throughout the land
      the Lord God of Armies
      is carrying out a destruction that was decreed.  Isa 10:20-23
      The five wise virgins return to their Master, Christ – the “Mighty God” of Isa 9:6, and to the Father – Ps 50:1-6 
      Pearl Doxsey:
      “The Disgusting Thing”
      “Discerning the Ten Virgins/Called, Chosen and Faithful”
      “Christ’s Return, When?”
      “The Constant Feature”
      “More on Two Witnesses”
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