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1 hour ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

I don't recall when Iraq's money was thrown away when script was changed. I don't recall when the Mexican's threw their old money away when they started using their new money. I don't recall American's throwing their old currency after new currency is printed. I believe the banks make the exchange.

That was my point, too. Further information from the Snopes article explains it this way:

One popular posting on

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was captioned, “This is a street in Venezuela. That’s money in the gutter. It’s worthless. Welcome to socialism.”:  . . .

Although hyperinflation has indeed caused the bolivar to become all but worthless, the caption on this viral photograph is a bit misleading. The money shown lying in the gutter in this picture is Venezuela’s old currency, the Bolívar Fuerte, which was replaced by a new form of currency, the Bolivar Soberano, in August 2018. When the Bolivar Soberano was introduced, Bolívar Fuerte currency in amounts less than 1,000 ceased to be legal tender, and Bolivar Fuerte currency in all amounts was completely withdrawn on 5 December 2018. . . .

The viral photograph was likely taken on 11 March 2019 and showed the aftermath of looting at a bank in the town of Merida. Local news outlet

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compiled several other photographs of the incident and reported that the perpetrators had discarded the old money on the streets and even lit some of it on fire (translated via Google):

TERRIBLE! Hooded (vandals) sacked the bank Bicentenario in Merida and scattered bolivars of the old currency through the streets (+ Photos)

On Monday, March 11, hooded (vandals) sacked the Bicentenario bank agency on Avenue 3, Glorias Patrias, in the state of Merida.

The fact was confirmed by the deputy of the National Assembly Williams Dávila, as well as by the correspondent of El Nacional in the state of Mérida, Leonardo León.

Through the social network Twitter, they reported that citizens scattered piles of old money bills in the streets, which were then set on fire.

TWITTER:

 

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Ayer se produjo el saqueo de un banco bicentenario en la ciudad de Mérida, en las cercanías de la plaza Glorias Patrias. Los saqueadores incendiaron una pila de bolívares además de dejar muchos billetes por el suelo.

Mayr 12, 2019. [Mar not May, thanks Melinda Mills]

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In short, the “money in gutters” image shown above captured an older and now invalid form of currency that was tossed aside after the looting of a bank, and not usable currency discarded by citizens because it had been made next to worthless due to “socialism.”

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Snopes is often wrong. But these pictures were already well known and understood in their original context on Twitter, and from various journalists on all sides of the Venezuela situation before Snopes picked up on it.

It was still related to Maduro, and is still related to money becoming worthless. It is still supportive of the idea that people will be throwing their money (even their gold) in the streets, because money is of no value as a savior in the day of Jehovah's fury. It shows how bad things can get. A major use of these pictures, however, was to create a lie that it was all based on Maduro's mismanagement and therefore could be blamed on socialism. The masked persons who came into the bank may very well have planned the propaganda photo-op for purposes of drumming up support from outside Venezuela for the opposition parties.

It reminds me of Russian authorities planting literature in JW KH's as a set-up to frame trouble. The opposition parties in Venezuela have been getting away with violence, riots, sabotage, even terrorism, hoping to create a big enough backlash from the government that will give the excuse for a "regime" change.

It also reminds me of how someone can take pictures of Bro. Morris in a liquor store to try to give the impression that all this must be for him and him alone, or that it must be for the purpose of allowing him to abuse alcohol over some period of time.

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(Replying to Outta Here.)

Thanks for the observation.  It is being used loosely.

Yes, agree it is not about the value of money per se. However,  readers of the Bible will still recall the statement "They will throw their silver into the streets..." and if and when this happens, they will say that they read it in the Bible.   We can't deny that the Bible said that.  As BillyThe Kid reminisced, "What was fascinating to me, My mother pointed it out to me in the '60s as a devout JW that would happen, and it sure the hell did. There is no photoshop on that. It's not a tale."   My mother used to quote it a lot as well.

For other students who look deep into the Bible for guidance and more insight, they will understand it more fully.

*** rr chap. 6 p. 70 par. 18 “The End Is Now Upon You” ***

Do you discern a lesson for us in this part of Ezekiel’s prophecy? It is about the need to set the right priorities. Consider this: Only after the inhabitants of Jerusalem understood that the end of their city and their life was upon them and that material goods could not save them, only after that did they drastically change their priorities. They threw their possessions away and began to “seek a vision from a prophet”—but their change came too late. (Ezek. 7:26) In contrast, we are already fully aware that the end of this wicked world is upon us. Therefore, our faith in God’s promises has moved us to set the right priorities in life. As a result, we are busy pursuing spiritual riches, which have lasting value and will never be thrown “into the streets.”—Read Matthew 6:19-21, 24

Material goods is money's worth, so it has a connection still. Some people have money in the bank, some have it in land and other possessions. All can be changed into money.

 *** w88 9/15 p. 13 par. 14 Listen—Jehovah’s Watchman Speaks! ***

14 Jehovah and his executional forces cannot be bribed. (Read Ezekiel 7:19.) Bribery could not save the “concealed place,” the Most Holy, from being profaned as Chaldean “robbers” seized sacred utensils and left the temple in ruins. Jehovah ‘caused the pride of the strong ones to cease’ when King Zedekiah was captured and chief ones of the Levitical priesthood were killed. (2 Kings 25:4-7, 18-21) No, sinners in besieged Jerusalem could not escape adversity by bribery when God ‘judged them’ as covenant breakers. Similarly, during the imminent desecration of things Christendom holds sacred, she will not be able to bribe her way out of the execution of divine judgment upon her. It will then be too late to listen to Jehovah’s “watchman.”—Ezekiel 7:20-27.

This is a more direct and valid application. 

Good speech writers and politicians use Jesus' parables loosely in their speeches every day.  But we don't think they are trying to get close to God or really seeking to do his will.

 

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20 minutes ago, JW Insider said:
May 12, 2019.

-------------- end of Twitter quote as seen as Snopes ------------

In short, the “money in gutters” image shown above captured an older and now invalid form of currency that was tossed aside after the looting of a bank, and not usable currency discarded by citizens because it had been made next to worthless due to “socialism.”

Who is living in May 12, 2019 already? Snopes?  

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Melinda Mills said:

Who is living in May 12, 2019 already? Snopes?  

Thanks for the catch. The date would not format with the rest of the Twitter pictures and text so I retyped it myself with the now-obvious typo. It should have been Mar 12, 2019.

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Since the context in Ezekiel 7:1-27 is the announcement of the end, while Ezekiel 7:1-13 is the coming of the end, while Ezekiel 7: 14-27 is the desolation of Israel, yet still Ezekiel 7:1-19 also conforms to the punishment of wickedness foretold, while  Ezekiel 7: 20-27 attest to the temple profaned

Let’s not forget Christ. It can also be said, JESUS was not bought either as seen through his sacrifice. Yet we can now see the similarities to those that stay alert and keep on the watch, and none of this liquor nonsense matters. Especially when it comes from Llyod Evans, an apostate.

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3 hours ago, JW Insider said:

The viral photograph was likely taken on 11 March 2019 and showed the aftermath of looting at a bank in the town of Merida. Local news outlet

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compiled several other photographs of the incident and reported that the perpetrators had discarded the old money on the streets and even lit some of it on fire (translated via Google):

TERRIBLE! Hooded (vandals) sacked the bank Bicentenario in Merida and scattered bolivars of the old currency through the streets (+ Photos)

On Monday, March 11, hooded (vandals) sacked the Bicentenario bank agency on Avenue 3, Glorias Patrias, in the state of Merida.

Yes, it makes perfect sense in your world. In my world, I would think if a bank was robbed by hoodlums, the police would have picked up the money, regardless if people thought it was FAKE money.

But, since we are speaking about worthless money that no one bothered to pick up, that is more realism. However, you can spin it any way you want. It doesn’t matter to me about your explanation on something you nor I were there for.

I understand you are trying desperately to delegitimize my mother’s vision. Do that with your own mother, lay off mine.

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3 hours ago, Outta Here said:

What is important about this text has nothing to do with money losing it's value either through obsolescence or inflation. It is more about the fact that Jehovah cannot be bought

Since the context in Ezekiel 7:1-27 is the announcement of the end, while Ezekiel 7:1-13 is the coming of the end, while Ezekiel 7: 14-27 is the desolation of Israel, yet still Ezekiel 7:1-19 also conforms to the punishment of wickedness foretold, while  Ezekiel 7: 20-27 attest to the temple profaned

Let’s not forget Christ. It can also be said, JESUS was not bought either as seen through his sacrifice. Yet we can now see similarities to those that stay alert and keep on the watch, and none of this liquor nonsense matters. Especially when it comes from Lloyd Evans.

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4 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

Therefore, TTH, your view doesn't hold water on why the money is on the street. However, I don't care why the money is on the street.

I haven’t actually made any comment about this. However, since I am being drawn into it anyway, let me clarify this nonsense once and for all. 

This photo is not from Venezuela at all, but it is in one of the southern US states & is in fact a falled bank heist on the part of @Top Cat O'Malighan. His getaway car was hit broadside by @Vic Vomidog, flying at an unusual rate of speed because some Bethel hotshot and been spied with a can of beer, a special meeting of the Apostate Society had been called so as to see how to spin it, he was the Keynote speaker, and he was running late.

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13 hours ago, JW Insider said:

"A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still."

That's one of my favourite quotes. And it's so true!

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9 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

This photo is not from Venezuela at all, but it is in one of the southern US states & is in fact a falled bank heist on the part of @Top Cat O'Malighan. His getaway car was hit broadside by @Vic Vomidog, flying at an unusual rate of speed because some Bethel hotshot and been spied with a can of beer, a special meeting of the Apostate Society had been called so as to see how to spin it, he was the Keynote speaker, and he was running late

Thanks for the clarification. I'm glad you caught it, and not living in the future, lol! 😂

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21 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

@Space Merchant and the young boy, where are you both. Forum police. :) :) :) 

Forum Police? Care to explain? Kid and everyone else speaks their peace. As far as all things concerning you about 95% of the time, you tend to interject something into a topic that tends to be unrelated. Also you tend to be the type of person that has no problem pushing the buttons of others, but when such is done either directly or indirectly to you, you show a reaction, in some cases, a bit whiny, in this sense. This is the same case you regarding judgement, whereas you make the claim of others, but when you do it, it is ok, therefore, people can and will call you out for it. Elsewhere, there are people, unrelated to this thread as a whole, that is out for your head, reasons why I refrain from what they had said about you because those Christians do not like to be mocked and or insulted, in which you alluded to in one of your responses before. All I can say is that some had color languages for such ones like you who think they cannot be helped.

 

That being said, to even paraphrase what you said before, forums and or social spaces is a place where everyone gets involved, this also includes Facebook.

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9 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

Forum Police? Care to explain? Kid and everyone else speaks their peace. As far as all things concerning you about 95% of the time, you tend to interject something into a topic that tends to be unrelated. Also you tend to be the type of person that has no problem pushing the buttons of others, but when such is done either directly or indirectly to you, you show a reaction, in some cases, a bit whiny, in this sense. This is the same case you regarding judgement, whereas you make the claim of others, but when you do it, it is ok, therefore, people can and will call you out for it. Elsewhere, there are people, unrelated to this thread as a whole, that is out for your head, reasons why I refrain from what they had said about you because those Christians do not like to be mocked and or insulted, in which you alluded to in one of your responses before. All I can say is that some had color languages for such ones like you who think they cannot be helped.

 

That being said, to even paraphrase what you said before, forums and or social spaces is a place where everyone gets involved, this also includes Facebook.

Yes this like many others is just a forum. @Space Merchant  I don't mind being 'called out'. At least on here it is direct and can be seen, unlike in JW Org where no one is 'allowed' to talk to me now and probably talks about me behind my back. 

But all this talk about money in the streets etc is totally off topic and a bit boring as it has nothing to do with the scripture concerning money having no value. 

But let's be honest, this forum has very little to do with Christianity anymore. It seems to be about people trying to get one above the other. People accusing others about using more than one name and some people getting upset about their relatives being 'insulted'. The whole forum has gone downhill. Hence I suppose why they now have a 'Private club' for the 'special' ones.

Oh yes, if 'elsewhere' people are out for my head, I have no knowledge of it.  My Facebook page is quite open. My other FB page 'Ex Jehovah's Witnesses still wanting to serve God' is also quite open. I do nothing in secret. So where are these people that are 'out for my head' ? Why have they not shown themselves ? Do they also use more than one name on forums ?  Whatever i do online is open and honest and I use my own personal name. I'm easy to find if people are 'hunting' for me. Though they cannot be very 'christian' people to be after my head. 

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9 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

At least on here it is direct and can be seen, unlike in JW Org where no one is 'allowed' to talk to me now and probably talks about me behind my back. 

If someone talks behind your back, probably because you are doing the same. Doing it here is not the same as having the guts to be vocal in front of the people you fear or feared.

But you’re not alone on this, many here are doing the same thing by talking about the Watchtower behind it’s back. Regardless if it's an open forum or a private JW only club.

9 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

But all this talk about money in the streets etc is totally off topic and a bit boring as it has nothing to do with the scripture concerning money having no value. 

It’s true Valenzuela worthless money is off topic, and is of no value other than seeing a similarity that a ‘60s view was taken. Its unfortunate someone like JWinsider decided to insult and denigrate a relative, and James thinking it’s funny to do just that, makes them the biggest AH’s in this forum. However, I made several attempts to revert the topic back to the silliness that is the post, to begin with.

9 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

But let's be honest, this forum has very little to do with Christianity anymore. It seems to be about people trying to get one above the other. People accusing others about using more than one name and some people getting upset about their relatives being 'insulted'. The whole forum has gone downhill. Hence I suppose why they now have a 'Private club' for the 'special' ones. 

Here I wholeheartedly agree with you. Not only is this forum not even close to being Christian but is the furthest from being a JW forum. The simple fact that this forum uses God’s name to spotlight this forum is a direct contradiction to “thou shall not use God’s name in vain.” Yet, people like TTH an author thinks it’s ok since he uses this forum as feedback and research for material on his next book.

Instead of using his own intelligence to gather information for his next book. However, in the same respect, don’t pretend by taking the higher moral ground, since you agree in most part with what Anna, James, and JWinsider offer as opinions to be factual when they are far from it.

9 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

Oh yes, if 'elsewhere' people are out for my head, I have no knowledge of it.  My Facebook page is quite open. My other FB page 'Ex Jehovah's Witnesses still wanting to serve God' is also quite open.

This I find funny, since you once asked, where else did I find you in another apostate site. You only needed to look at your own. Which in essence the FB is all about.😉

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2 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

It’s true Valenzuela worthless money is off topic, and is of no value other than seeing a similarity that a ‘60s view was taken. Its unfortunate someone like JWinsider decided to insult and denigrate a relative, and James thinking it’s funny to do just that, makes them the biggest AH’s in this forum.

If I did NOT have the sense of humor that I do Billius T. Pettifog 46, and had YOUR sense of humor (if any, which has not to date exposed itself to forum view ...) I might take your intended, malicious, and vulgar insult personally, and take appropriate action.

You have not identified who I am with your malicious, vulgar libel ... but with your own words ... you sure have identified  who YOU are.

The phrase for that is "Undressing yourself in public.", to which I have no objection.

In fact ... I encourage it.

.... always good for a laugh!

... and it does give all interested people  a perspective of how to view the REST of your alleged logic and reasoning.

 

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@BillyTheKid46  Doing it here is not the same as having the guts to be vocal in front of the people you fear or feared.  Having the guts ? 

Well most of you are stateside i think and I'm not traveling over. The GB would be nigh on impossible to reach. My local Elders did get direct contact from me, but I was wise enough not to get myself disfe'd.  As for fear of man, well the Elders never frightened me, disappointed me yes. 

 However, in the same respect, don’t pretend by taking the higher moral ground, since you agree in most part with what Anna, James, and JWinsider offer as opinions to be factual when they are far from it.

I'm not pretending anything, I think the whole forum is funny. I thought I might actually learn something from it but there is no way. I haven't read one line about love and giving, or mercy and peace. But it's fun, better than watching the television. 

This I find funny, since you once asked, where else did I find you in another apostate site. You only needed to look at your own. Which in essence the FB is all about.😉

Well if you wish to call me an apostate it's your choice. I am only apostate to the GB ruled JW Org. I am not apostate to God or Christ, although I do realise I'm not close to them either, but then neither is anyone on here.

As for my Ex JW Facebook page, well it has 600 likes, so some folks seem to think I'm doing something right. 

 

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2 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

If I did NOT have the sense of humor that I do Billius T. Pettifog 46, and had YOUR sense of humor (if any, which has not to date exposed itself to forum view ...) I might take your intended, malicious, and vulgar insult personally, and take appropriate action.

That would mean people know how humorless and long winded you are! I don’t find insulting anyone’s mother a justification for humor. If you want to laugh at your mother or JWinsider, look in the mirror, and find his.

Now your contempt is personal. That’s what makes your action malicious and vulgar. As for taking appropriate action. Deleting me as it was done with AllenSimth34. Talk to TTH yourself, or JWinsider. If you mean something else, any time you feel brave. 😉

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2 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

Well if you wish to call me an apostate it's your choice. I am only apostate to the GB ruled JW Org. I am not apostate to God or Christ, although I do realise I'm not close to them either, but then neither is anyone on here.

As for my Ex JW Facebook page, well it has 600 likes, so some folks seem to think I'm doing something right. 

I already have several times. I don't need to repeat what you already designated yourself. Therefore, why play with words, and confront those that you think need confronting. Don't look to speak with the GB to hear your nonsense just like Evans intent while referring the GB are not approachable. They are there to listen to scriptural and spiritual things. Not someone idiocy on how that person thinks the Watchtower should operate, or how scripture needs to be interpreted. They have God to guide them for that, not some silly and insignificant person from the UK.

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7 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

However, I made several attempts to revert the topic back to the silliness that is the post, to begin with.

Why on earth would you do that? If it is silliness to begin with, why dignify it by taking it seriously?

7 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

Yet, people like TTH an author thinks it’s ok since he uses this forum as feedback and research for material on his next book.

Now you’ve got it! 

7 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

Instead of using his own intelligence to gather information for his next book

You know, it just makes for a dull book when you do it that way.

Is it just me? What are the letters to the Corinthians? Did Paul just gather information for his next book? Clearly, he capitalized on what those Corinthians had said, or what had been said about them, rather than cook up some speech detached from their needs.

For the disclosure was made to me about YOU, my brothers, by those of [the house of] Chloʹe, that dissensions exist among YOU. What I mean is this, that each one of YOU says...” (1 Corinthians 1:12)

“YOU men already have YOUR fill, do YOU? YOU are rich already, are YOU? YOU have begun ruling as kings without us, have YOU?” 4:8

“Now concerning the things about which YOU wrote....”  7:1

Most of the Greek scriptures consist of interactions with various congregations & we benefit by eavesdropping. That’s all I’m doing—imitating a pattern laid out by others.

 

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        In 2019 he was caught up in a controversy over his buying lots of expensive hard liquor at a liquor store.

      Talks by Anthony Morris III (on the first wiki)


      In one video I saw, Anthony Morris III makes the comment "I come from a wealthy family, you all know that". Does anyone know who this family is? What is their business? Where does such wealth come from?

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      Note: These posts are for the purpose of indexing JW Broadcasting Program Parts for easy access and look up on this site, as JW Broadcasting does not yet have a search function. Most parts have been linked directly to the video for that part, for easy access. You may like to use these links for personal or family study. Enjoy!

      Presenter: Bro. Anthony Morris III GB


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      Discussion: Child Abuse Length (approx) 8 mins


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      Closing Video: Mahaut & Marie-Galante Congregations, Dominica

      Full Length 1:09:03 mins

      *Full length time includes intermediary comments

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      Phillip Morris Company is now called Altria, Inc.

      I saw this thread on Facebook and would like to know the truth.

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      Is this how Jesus would speak about one of his dear sisters? Or does he sound more like a Pharisee?
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