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I was looking for some tax papers today, and found a stack of about 500 pages in my own filing cabinets. These were items from Brooklyn Bethel that I hadn't looked at in nearly 40 years. Thought someone else might get a kick out of them before I toss most of them out. One includes a first draft example of an actual assignment given to someone who worked alongside the Writing Department but who was not actually in that Department. I thought it might give some insight to the types of assignments that a "junior researcher" might get back in those days. It's also seems so odd now that we had filing cabinets filled with clippings, photos, and unused articles and experiences back before the days of scanners and pdfs.

One two-page bit of correspondence was for someone asking about alternative medicines, quartz, Native American herbs, etc. I'll include that one first.

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I'd say more, but I just heard that Notre Dame in Paris is burning, and must get back to my taxes.

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I have many, many times shared Bro. Swingle's opinion that " ..if the lives of actual people were brought more into the write-up" it would carry more power.

Intellectual integrity naturally intrinsically generates good journalism, and answers the questions "who, what, when, where, and how much" .... and sometimes "why", which is the most important.

For me, "Bob and Alice, pioneers in a city in Estonia  ..... " .... just does not cut it for me.

If it cannot be independently checked ... it didn't happen ... is bad journalism ... and lacks intellectual integrity ... AND IS NOT WORTHY OF BEING BELIEVED!!

... and should NOT be believed at face value.

... The stuff Novels are made of.

I find it completely amazing that adults putting out a publication of global scope .... ignore principles that I was taught in the 7th grade English class, and are still true and valid today.

 

 

..... sigh ....

 

 

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To read and find out the experiences of other people have great value.

However, this may become a problem if the solution to some of the life situations, that somebody has achieved, wishes to imitate in full or in full imagined detail (details that are not known to anyone who read the article).


Another issue, even bigger, arises when publisher's article tries to direct his readers to the idea how this is the way. And how that process of attempts to act, in similar or the same  way, would be blessed by God.

And as more dangerous is idea, how exactly this way is the only right way.

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5 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

For me, "Bob and Alice, pioneers in a city in Estonia  ..... " .... just does not cut it for me.

Very well. Bob and Alice Goodenov, pioneers in a city in Estonia, caught the two Russian journalists, actually named people, so you know they are credible, recording a congregation meeting to see if there was any way they could rearrange things to make JWs look nuts, and blew them into Estonian intelligence, who banned them for five years.

https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/forums/topic/78948-estonia-cancels-visas-of-russian-television-journalists-over-a-discriminatory-film-about-jehovah-witnesses/

Another way to look at it is that it is the play that the HQ brothers are following, not the actors in the play. You don’t have to know the names of the actors to follow the play. It can even be a distraction if you do.

Best regards,

One person who writes in the United States 

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5 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Very well. Bob and Alice Goodenov, pioneers in a city in Estonia, caught the two Russian journalists, actually named people,

I have it on good authority that the two Russian Journalists were Boris and Natasha Badenov, working under the direction of those notorious American rascals, Moose and Squirrel.

When you see a flying squirrel, and a moose pulling a rabbit out of a hat ... always suspect there may actually be a Russian Bear in the hat.

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These historic letters are very interesting ... please share more.

I especially enjoyed the first one ... excellent, balanced advice re alternative health treatments.

Many in the congregation today are not following this council ... esp those into herbal and

holistic medicine!

WCL

Chloe

 

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To me, this is exactly as it looks. A Bethel Member stealing unauthorized material from Bethel. Perhaps in the hope of someday using it against the Watchtower, somehow.

This is exactly the reason NOT TO TRUST any former Bethel member from that time. The era of the great purge to cleanse and get rid of the undesirables from Bethel.

I believe, scripture mentions something about spies in the mist. Luke 20:20-22 thank you for providing a good example of how true scripture is with any generation of defiant society.

Perhaps, instead of destroying what didn’t belong to you, it should be returned to its rightful owner anonymously, (in secret) with a letter of repentance.

But, I understand, it will be critical to say, I was authorized to remove such articles from Bethel. This, however, will only work with people that don’t know the inner workings of Bethel.

However, that’s just me pointing the difference between honesty and dishonesty.

Any comments against this post, Blah! Blah, Woof! Woof! This is mainly for Butler that will come to the rescue by downvoting to help his kind.

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13 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

To me, this is exactly as it looks. A Bethel Member stealing unauthorized material from Bethel. Perhaps in the hope of someday using it against the Watchtower, somehow.

LOL. I'm always happy to address a challenge. In this case you have claimed that I stole unauthorized material, perhaps hoping to use it against the Watchtower, somehow.

I did not steal anything. And I'm not sure what would make certain material "unauthorized." I suppose you could argue that only material that was published in our publications was authorized. But does that mean that everything else that any Bethelite saved or collected must be destroyed? Really?

Also, this first letter I shared actually went out to a sister and was therefore "published" (with only minor alterations) and the material was reused for future letters on the topic. I have three letters from Governing Body members that were written to me personally. Should I destroy them? One was a letter of recommendation to help me get a secular job after I left Bethel. Do you really think we should be ashamed of or hide anything that goes on behind the scenes at Bethel? You think that we shouldn't talk about any of these things, or that we shouldn't share anything that was written?

You appear to be afraid that this material I saved could be used against the Watchtower, somehow. Anything that I kept, I saved out of a spirit of appreciation for the experience I had at Bethel, which was a wonderful experience. I wanted to remember it and I kept things that would help me remember it. If I had wanted to find a way to use them against the Watchtower, I don't think I would have waited about 40 years to share them.

I admit that I have also shared experiences from Bethel that we could (and should) learn from. Even a negative experience could be profitable to others. I find that most people hold back on this count because they think that certain types of negative experiences cannot be profitable to anyone. This flies in face of scripture. Did Paul hold back from telling the Galatians and Corinthians about negative experiences? Did Jesus hold back? Did not Paul say we should be imitators of Paul himself?

(Acts 20:20) while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable . . .

(1 Corinthians 10:6-12) . . .Now these things became examples for us, in order for us not to desire injurious things, as they desired them. 7 Neither become idolaters, as some of them did; just as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink. Then they got up to have a good time.” 8 Neither let us practice sexual immorality, as some of them committed sexual immorality, . . .  11 Now these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for a warning to us upon whom the ends of the systems of things have come. 12 So let the one who thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall.

(1 Corinthians 4:14-5:6) 14 I am writing these things, not to put you to shame, but to admonish you as my beloved children. . . .  16 I urge you, therefore, become imitators of me. . . . 18 Some are puffed up with pride,. . . 5 Actually sexual immorality is reported among you, and such immorality as is not even found among the nations. . . 6 Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven ferments the whole batch of dough?

Neither Jesus nor Paul held back from sharing things that were profitable, both old and new.

(Matthew 13:51, 52) . . .” 52 Then he said to them: “That being the case, every public instructor who is taught about the Kingdom of the heavens is like a man, the master of the house, who brings out of his treasure store things both new and old.”

(Mark 4:22) . . .For there is nothing hidden that will not be exposed; nothing is carefully concealed that will not come out in the open.

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Like I said. Only those that don’t understand the inner workings of Bethel will buy into your explanation. But thanks for the attempt on justification. You're not alone. I’m sure Barbara Anderson, James Paton, and many others did the same thing. It seems the Watchtower had problems with the writing department back then.

Since you quoted scripture. It might be a good thing to practice what you preach. After all, your motive is a good cause for concealment, and it appears it has been for a long time.

Therefore, keep spinning away lol! 😂

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On 4/17/2019 at 6:10 AM, JW Insider said:

(Acts 20:20) while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable . . .

(1 Corinthians 10:6-12) . . .Now these things became examples for us, in order for us not to desire injurious things, as they desired them. 7 Neither become idolaters, as some of them did; just as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink. Then they got up to have a good time.” 8 Neither let us practice sexual immorality, as some of them committed sexual immorality, . . .  11 Now these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for a warning to us upon whom the ends of the systems of things have come. 12 So let the one who thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall.

(1 Corinthians 4:14-5:6) 14 I am writing these things, not to put you to shame, but to admonish you as my beloved children. . . .  16 I urge you, therefore, become imitators of me. . . . 18 Some are puffed up with pride,. . . 5 Actually sexual immorality is reported among you, and such immorality as is not even found among the nations. . . 6 Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven ferments the whole batch of dough?

(Acts 20:20) while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable . . .

Since Paul was speaking to the Ephesian Elders, Acts 20:13-38, what else might be concluded that it hasn’t by your summary. This reminds me of the US Attorney General BARR when attempting to summarize a 440+ page conclusion of the Mueller Report.

That way your targeted audience of supporter’s just like in Trump's case, your supporters will understand the wide range of misapplication, since you apply it to (Secret) as somehow a justification for your actions.

17From Miletus, Paul sent to Ephesus for the elders of the church. 18When they arrived, he said to them: “You know how I lived the whole time I was with you, from the first day I came into the province of Asia. 19I served the Lord with great humility and with tears, although I was severely tested by the plots of the Jews. 20You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house. 21I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.

How is public preaching the same, as taking things that don’t belong to you? However, I will agree that preaching to others to “REPENT” for their sinful ways is something Paul was concerned before his ultimate travel to Jerusalem.

(1 Corinthians 10:6-12) . . .Now these things became examples for us, in order for us not to desire injurious things, as they desired them. 7 Neither become idolaters, as some of them did; just as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink. Then they got up to have a good time.” 8 Neither let us practice sexual immorality, as some of them committed sexual immorality, . . .  11 Now these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for a warning to us upon whom the ends of the systems of things have come. 12 So let the one who thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall.

1.      Learn from the old testament examples 1 Corinthians 10:1-13

2.      Warning against Idolatry 1 Corinthians 10:1-22

3.      Avoid Israel’s mistakes 1 Corinthians 10:1-33

4.      Warning from Israel’s History 1 Corinthians 10:1-22

What does posting unauthorized copyright material from the Watchtower like these personal letters you claim is yours, but it READS as though it was intended for a greater audience, just like the BOE letters that are dumped on the internet by unscrupulous Bethel insiders has to do with this rebuttal scripture you posted. What can we learn from the past mistakes of the Israelites?

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(1 Corinthians 4:14-5:6) 14 I am writing these things, not to put you to shame, but to admonish you as my beloved children. . . .  16 I urge you, therefore, become imitators of me. . . . 18 Some are puffed up with pride,. . . 5 Actually sexual immorality is reported among you, and such immorality as is not even found among the nations. . . 6 Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven ferments the whole batch of dough?

1.      Apostles of Christ 1 Corinthians 4:1-21

2.      Paul’s Parental Care 1 Corinthians 4:14-21

3.      Fatherly Admonition 1 Corinthians 4:14-21

How can this scripture be applied to those that are defiant and hell-bent on doing the wrong things, when it is clear, their behavior is the one that needs to be considered in these scriptures.

1.      Immorality defiles the church 1 Corinthians 5:1-8

2.      Throw the evil person out 1 Corinthians 5:1-13

 

Therefore, what do any of these scriptures have to do with dumping things on the internet that you think is of value, since you contend demonstrating, your own expressed opinion about what you consider is or was wrong about the Watchtower cannot be summed up by one simple scripture? 1 Corinthians 5:1-13

I could go on, but I believe the point is made about scripture and it’s correct application. It does appear witnesses need to further their studies to make it in a scholarly world.

What am I proving James? Your intent, as in others in this forum that are of no spiritual value to an otherwise, honest witness.

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BillytheKid46:

Your logic and reasoning, seen through the dark filter of Watchtower Derangement Syndrome (WDS) "the sword that cuts BOTH ways", is truly scary.

EVERYTHING we personally do, or the Society does, should be open, and transparent,  as befits holy people ....and that lends itself to reinforcing that EVERYTHING we do will be praiseworthy ... something we as individuals and as a Nation, can be proud of.

When we as a Nation (without borders or land) make mistakes, them being openly exposed, lends itself to great embarrassment ... but swift and energetic correction.

What you advocate by the application of very fine scriptures about another subject may be something to try and hypnotize with a million words and references ... but your specific  misapplication  ... in the REAL world .... lends itself to secrecy, distrust, stratification of our nation into  a nefarious clergy, and a blind laity class.

Sometimes, in the REAL world, down here where "the rubber meets the road" a person has to choose the lesser of a very large set of evils.

What I find the most scary about you, Billy, is that you would.  from everything I have seen you write, you would make a very , VERY good lawyer for the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, as what they do is actually practiced, as evidenced by court transcripts ..... not their self aggrandizing dream world.

 

 

 

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I just thought of an isolated example, .... If you were being held by Nazis, who had stolen and looted from the people all that they ate (as armies usually do...), would it be immoral to steal the food from them, that they stole ... to keep someone you loved alive?

I would not have a problem with that.

 

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