DOES ANYONE HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS?

[Witness]

I found this on another forum.  It is a photo from the jw org online glossary.  Does any JW have an opinion as to why "Jesus" is left out of the glossary?   "Christ", as well as "Messiah" are both noted.  (Matt 24:24; Mark 13:22 NKJV) (Matt 24:24; Mark 13:22 NIV)  Yet, "Jesus", whose name means "YHVH is salvation", or, "Yah will save", isn't listed.  Also, both "Emmanuel"/"Immanuel", which means "God is with us" are not listed.     (Matt 1:23)

Here is the link: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/publication/r1/lp-e/nwtstg/E/2019/172

[Melinda Mills]

They know that many people would not be looking it up. They know who he is.  Or it was just overlooked.

 

[Witness]

1 hour ago, Melinda Mills said:

They know that many people would not be looking it up. They know who he is.  

 

Perhaps.  But also listed are the terms, Christian, holy spirit, the true God, and angel; terms that I would think people know, as well as "Jehovah" for the most part.  

[Witness]

Another name which seems obvious to be included but is not, is "Michael".  

[Evacuated]

20 hours ago, Witness said:

Does any JW have an opinion as to why "Jesus" is left out of the glossary? 

Seems that a glossary differs from an encyclopedia in that it is an alphabetical list of terms. Biographical information is only included when it is relevant to explaining the use of what might be considered a personal name in a terminological sense. For example some background biogaphy is necessary to understand the use of the name "Jacob" as a term for the nation descended from him.

Terms such as Christ, Christian, Chief Agent, Firstborn etc are defined as they are terms. The name Jehovah is viewed by some as a term not having personal significance. That is clarified in this glossary.

There is no need do do the same for the personal name of God's Son, Jesus, as his name has not become a "term" in the sense of being  "a word or phrase used to describe a thing or to express a concept".

If this was a Glossary relating to the Roman Catolic Church, then there might be a case for including the name as it relates to the term "Jesuit". Or indeed the word "Trinity" as it relates to the peculiar concept of the nature of God held by many members of that denomination. Of course, these terms have no relevance whatsoever to the Holy Scriptures.

[Witness]

On 5/16/2019 at 1:07 AM, Outta Here said:

Seems that a glossary differs from an encyclopedia in that it is an alphabetical list of terms. Biographical information is only included when it is relevant to explaining the use of what might be considered a personal name in a terminological sense. For example some background biogaphy is necessary to understand the use of the name "Jacob" as a term for the nation descended from him.

Terms such as Christ, Christian, Chief Agent, Firstborn etc are defined as they are terms. The name Jehovah is viewed by some as a term not having personal significance. That is clarified in this glossary.

There is no need do do the same for the personal name of God's Son, Jesus, as his name has not become a "term" in the sense of being  "a word or phrase used to describe a thing or to express a concept".

If this was a Glossary relating to the Roman Catolic Church, then there might be a case for including the name as it relates to the term "Jesuit". Or indeed the word "Trinity" as it relates to the peculiar concept of the nature of God held by many members of that denomination. Of course, these terms have no relevance whatsoever to the Holy Scriptures.

Thank you.  That was a great explanation, very much appreciated.   Because of its size, it's pretty obvious it isn't anything like an index.  Still, on the same "J" page, Flavius Josephus is one of a few other names that are listed; which aren't terms.   "Satan" is listed under "S", which is also a name.  So, it appears to be a prejudice move to leave out Michael and Jesus, which both have significant meanings just as "Satan" does.

[Evacuated]

49 minutes ago, Witness said:

So, it appears to be a prejudice move

This a ridiculous assumption. There are several Glossaries available. This particular one appears not to follow the general principle that a Glossary is normally a list of terms and concepts. So what? There is nothing significant about this.

[Witness]

5 hours ago, Outta Here said:

There are several Glossaries available.

I can only find the one on jw org.  Maybe I'm missing something.  

5 hours ago, Outta Here said:

This particular one appears not to follow the general principle that a Glossary is normally a list of terms and concepts. So what? There is nothing significant about this.

So what? The website is one of the busiest ones on the internet, isn't it?  If it is bringing in people from all countries, shouldn't it be precise about who Jesus is?  Even in this glossary that seems not to follow the general principle?

If the Watchtower is all about truth, and Christ is truth, then these terms should be listed in harmony with the format being used:

Jesus

Michael

Logos

Lamb of God

Son of God

Word

 

This is what it does include:

Ashtoreth

Astrologer

Baal

Beelzebub

Chemosh

Dagon

Demons

Devil

Fortune-teller

Idol; idolatry

Leviathan

Locusts

Merodach

Milcom

Nephilim

Pharoah

Queen of Heaven

Satan

Sorcery

Spiritism

Spirit medium

Tammuz

Taraphim

Wicked one

Zeus

 

The error of omission is a direct attack on the significance that Christ should play in our lives.  Gen 3:15

 

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

 

 

Some people like to play with words ... some like to play with numbers.

There is a difference between a mathematician, and a moron.

At least, with numbers, you can PROVE what is true.

 

Well ... you DID specifically ask for my opinion .....

[Evacuated]

4 hours ago, Witness said:

The error of omission is a direct attack on the significance that Christ should play in our lives. 

This is quite frankly drivel! It is a glossary, not a theological encyclopedia.

4 hours ago, Witness said:

shouldn't it be precise about who Jesus is?

Chief Agent.
The Greek term basically means “Chief Leader.” It refers to the essential role of Jesus Christ in freeing faithful humans from the deadly effects of sin and in leading them to everlasting life.—Ac 3:15; 5:31; Heb 2:10; 12:2.

Christ.
The title of Jesus, from the Greek word Khri·stosʹ, which is equivalent to the Hebrew word translated “Messiah,” or “Anointed One.”—Mt 1:16; Joh 1:41

Anyone who really wants to know who Jesus is can get a precise understanding from reading the Scriptures.

Don't underestimate the tenacity of those who realy seek truth. They will want to get more detail and reasoning on the matter. They will not be satisfied with a simple Glossary of Bible terms definition.

If they want to do this using a website that "is one of the busiest ones on the internet", then a simple search will give a choice of 6,584 articles. Why not try?: Jesus Christ   

Perhaps then God may give you too "repentance leading to an accurate knowledge of truth." 2Tim.2:25

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

Could it be Witness is thinking about Hay-Seus, the illegal  Mexican groundskeeper?

He can mow a lawn so fast you would think it's a MIRACLE!

[Witness]

5 hours ago, Outta Here said:

This is quite frankly drivel! It is a glossary, not a theological encyclopedia.

How many important documents have glossaries that explain the terms within them?

5 hours ago, Outta Here said:

Anyone who really wants to know who Jesus is can get a precise understanding from reading the Scriptures.

Don't underestimate the tenacity of those who realy seek truth. They will want to get more detail and reasoning on the matter. They will not be satisfied with a simple Glossary of Bible terms definition.

 

True statements, but not everyone does that.  

5 hours ago, Outta Here said:

f they want to do this using a website that "is one of the busiest ones on the internet", then a simple search will give a choice of 6,584 articles. Why not try?: Jesus Christ   

Perhaps then God may give you too "repentance leading to an accurate knowledge of truth." 2Tim.2:25

Yes, forget listing the term, "Lamb of God" in the glossary, who IS truth, but send them through the confusing Watchtower maze which leads one away from the simplicity that is Christ.  2 Cor 11:3