When AlanF distorts Watchtower history, I'll call him out on it. But you have said that I did not read Russell's book correctly. You pointed out how, but you were wrong about it. Russell did believe he was of the High Calling and therefore found it appropriate to refer to those with him sharers in "our High Calling," an expression he used dozens of times. He even explained how, while faithful, he was "perfect" and acceptable and justified in this calling:
Therefore because God has a "better thing" for us—our high calling to joint-heirship with Jesus Christ our Lord,. . . . so when we come to realize that we are justified we esteem it a privilege to "present our bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, our reasonable service." It is acceptable because it is holy; it is holy because it is justified; it is justified because Christ died.
To your second question I reply: It certainly is true, as you say, that none but perfect beings can keep God's perfect law, and I will go further and add that none but perfect beings are acceptable with God. But as we have just proved we are perfect beings, being justified by Christ Jesus and therefore are acceptable with God by Jesus Christ. [R193]
But although you incorrectly addressed a minor point, I notice you avoided the actual point that I made, that Russell, for example, thought it was proper for those of the High Calling to be referred to as "The CHRIST" ("The Savior" "The Mediator" etc.)
Curse that Alan idiot, anyway! We had a perfectly nice forum of lunatics and he had to spoil it all!
”How is your progress today, TrueTom?” my bevy of psychiatrists asked me at my last appointment. “Are you reintegrating with normal society? A little more progress, and we’ll let you go.”
”Um......uh......well you see.....there was this buffoon who was wrong on the internet....”
"The Truth" can have more than one meaning. For JW's this expression is understand only as Religious Truth according to WT Society Teachings.
Please go above of JW's definition. :))
"The Truth" in context i using in our conversation includes Every Truth which is Truth In Itself, and which, if we are to include God in it, is acceptable to God and his principles. (Have in mind how God is above all Religions including WT Society)
@TrueTomHarley Well you are always good for a laugh Mr Harley.
Quote "When speaking with others of a different point of view, it is important to treat them with a modicum of respect. It is important not to taunt and ridicule and insult. "
Well that was such a great joke. Because you then go into taunt, ridicule and insult as many folks as you can.
I've found most of your comments to be useless hot air, or just references to your 'books'.
And you need to link me to being a disciple of someone else ? Earlier you actually accused me of being someone else.
Are you so insecure as to need to do these things ? Can you not just accept me as being ME ?
On the other hand you accept your GB even with all their faults, and you don't seem to complain about them. You see how that looks like GB worshipping ?
Oh yes your idea of " elevating self to godhood,", fits your GB well.
And you burble on about my point of 'Armageddon being ten years away', and you seem to say this 'world' will not survive that long as it is. Well, my faith in God through Christ, tells me that it will take as long as it takes, and God/Christ can keep this 'world' ticking over for another 50 years if they wanted to. Do you not have such faith?
Spot the contradiction here :-
Quote "In that time, God will be able to raise up a pure anointed who represents him without flaw. I say, “Go for it!” Maybe you can start it up in your basement ... "
Can you see the big difference ? 'God will be able to' as apposed to 'Maybe you can start it up'
Mr Harley, I do not pretend to be God. I leave that stuff to your GB. God can do millions of things that I cannot do.
Mr Harley has the same mindset / way of deception, as the GB and the Writing Dept.
And if you cannot see my reasoning about the use of “make mistakes” and “errs, then it is because you are deliberately blind to it.
Have a good day.
To me, this is tops among the fine points you bring to the table. I don’t necessarily endorse them. But that is only because I do not have the background or sources that your have. You state things that no one else does, and you state them persuasively. You help me envision the truly monumental changes that we may soon have to adapt to. I appreciate that.
Meanwhile, as long as we remain busy in Jehovah’s service, as you, me, and several others are doing, we can hardly go wrong. He knows when his time has come, even as we struggle to read the tea leaves.