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                                                 Lies and slander
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"Woe to those who say that good is bad and evil is good, to those who put darkness for light and light for darkness, those who bitterly bitter and sweet
to bitter, woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and wise in their sight! "
The Bible Isaiah 5: 20-21 TMN


The distortion of facts

All facts are distorted and manipulated, as follows:

A Christian Jehovah's Witness exercises the profession of maternal guard: it is "the sect" which intervenes in the educational field to enlist the children.

A Jehovah's Witness works in the public administration, it is "the sect" that infiltrates the state or the medical field.

 The Witnesses provide their voluntary help during disasters (for example floods in the south of France), "the sect" makes of "the recovery of victims in situation of distress".

Witnesses teach their neighbors the Bible, they engage in "mental manipulation" and use "indoctrination methods". Yet they do nothing more than follow in the footsteps of Jesus who "walked from town to town and from village to village, preaching and announcing the good news of the kingdom of God, and the twelve were with him" (Acts 5:42 ) TMN

Whatever the Witnesses do, there must be bad motives behind their action. Did not we proceed in the same way with Jesus?  

What the Bible says :

Woe to those who say that good is evil and evil is good, to those who put darkness for light and light for darkness, to those who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter ! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and wise before their face! (Isaiah 5: 20-21) TMN

The presumptuous ones smeared me with lies. As for me, with all my heart I will observe your orders. (Psalm 119: 69) TMN

 

Sources of information

most of the time second-hand information, erroneous, misunderstood, freely interpreted.

watch_tower.jpgIt is common for opponents to use statements by Russel (1870-1914) or Rutherford (1920-1940) and refer to 1910 or 1920 publications, "forgetting" subsequent updates or rectifications.

As if the understanding of the scriptures had frozen at these times.

It escapes them (?) As modern Jehovah's Witnesses refine their understanding of the scriptures over time. They have, without difficulty, recognized past mistakes.

What the Bible says :

"The light has come to the righteous, and the gladness to those who have the right heart." (Ps. 97:11) TMN

"The path of the righteous is like the light of dawn, the brightness of which increases until daylight." But "the path of the wicked is like darkness: they do not know what they will stumble upon". (Prov 4:18, 19) Osty Bible.

"And as for you, O Daniel, make these words secret and seal the book until the time of [the] end. Many will roam here and there, and [true] knowledge will become abundant. "(Daniel 12: 4) TMN

 

The sifting of every word or phrase in Jehovah's Witnesses' writings

The exercise consists of finding a sentence or an affirmation, taking it out of context and demonstrating: since there is one or more errors, it is that everything is wrong!

Unmatched as argument. As if the Witnesses had to be perfect and infallible!

But do they have the same look towards all? Opponents are careful not to apply the method to themselves.

As Jesus said, "For it is with the judgment that you judge that you will be judged, and it is with the measure you measure that we will measure for you." Why do you look at the straw that is in your brother's eye, but do not you consider the beam in your eye? " (Matthew 7: 2-3) TMN

Recall that the pope is supposed to be "infallible".

This does not prevent him from being part of the Hitherian youth and lacking courage in his statements.

During his quick visit to Auschwitz on May 31, 2006 Benedict XVI deplored the absence of God in this place. It would have been better to regret the silence of the leaders of the church and to condemn it.

Let us note that the abominable acts committed by the "official" religions (inquisition - with its terrible tortures, crusades - with their massacres, ...) are without measure with the grievances which are made today to the Jehovah's Witnesses.

This does not prevent these religions - and our opponents - from playing the great moralizers and despising certain "sects".

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Nothing is as it seems, in the Watchtower organization.

“Coming to Him, a living stone—rejected by men but chosen and valuable to God— you yourselves, as living stones, are being built into a spiritual house for a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood,
a holy nation a people for His possession,
so that you may proclaim the praises
of the One who called you out of darkness
into His marvelous light.”  1 Pet 2:5,9

w02 8/1 p. 13-14  “Representing the royal priesthood are appointed *elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions.” 

“Didn’t you banish the priests of YHVH, the descendants of Aaron and the Levites, and make your own priests like the peoples of other lands do? Whoever comes to ordain himself with a young bull and seven rams may become a priest of what are not gods.” 2 Chron 13:9

The Lord said to Aaron, “You, your sons, and your ancestral house will be responsible for sin against the sanctuary. You and your sons will be responsible for sin involving your priesthood. 

"You are to guard the sanctuary and the altar so that wrath may not fall on the Israelites againLook, I have selected your fellow Levites from the Israelites as a gift for you, assigned by the Lord to work at the tent of meeting. But you and your sons will carry out your priestly responsibilities for everything concerning the altar and for what is inside the veil, and you will do that work. I am giving you the work of the priesthood as a gift, but an *unauthorized person  who comes near the sanctuary will be put to death.”  Num 18:1,5-7

“Don’t you yourselves know that you are God’s sanctuary and that the Spirit of God lives in you?  If anyone destroys God’s sanctuary, God will destroy him; for God’s sanctuary is holy, and that is what you are.”  1 Cor 3:16,17

“Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him: We ask you, brothers, not to be easily upset in mind or troubled, either by a spirit or by a message or by a letter as if from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has come. Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy[b] (“rebellion”) comes first and the *man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction.” 

w02 8/1 p. 13-14    “Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking *elders! Their record of faithful service, often over many decades, inspires our trust.”

4 “He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits in God’s sanctuarypublicizing that he himself is God.”  2 Thess 2:1-4

"The *presumptuous ones smeared me with lies. As for me, with all my heart I will observe your orders." (Psalm 119: 69) TMN

 “The Disgusting Thing Standing in a Holy Place, Matt 24:15” – 4womaninthewilderness blogspot

 

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"Woe to those who say that good is bad and evil is good, to those who put darkness for light and light for darkness, those who bitterly bitter and sweet
to bitter, woe to those who are
*wise in their own eyes, and wise in their sight! "
The Bible Isaiah 5: 20-21 TMN

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On 9/28/2019 at 9:51 PM, salomon said:

                                                 Lies and slander
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"Woe to those who say that good is bad and evil is good, to those who put darkness for light and light for darkness, those who bitterly bitter and sweet
to bitter, woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and wise in their sight! "
The Bible Isaiah 5: 20-21 TMN


The distortion of facts

All facts are distorted and manipulated, as follows:

A Christian Jehovah's Witness exercises the profession of maternal guard: it is "the sect" which intervenes in the educational field to enlist the children.

A Jehovah's Witness works in the public administration, it is "the sect" that infiltrates the state or the medical field.

 The Witnesses provide their voluntary help during disasters (for example floods in the south of France), "the sect" makes of "the recovery of victims in situation of distress".

Witnesses teach their neighbors the Bible, they engage in "mental manipulation" and use "indoctrination methods". Yet they do nothing more than follow in the footsteps of Jesus who "walked from town to town and from village to village, preaching and announcing the good news of the kingdom of God, and the twelve were with him" (Acts 5:42 ) TMN

Whatever the Witnesses do, there must be bad motives behind their action. Did not we proceed in the same way with Jesus?  

What the Bible says :

Woe to those who say that good is evil and evil is good, to those who put darkness for light and light for darkness, to those who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter ! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and wise before their face! (Isaiah 5: 20-21) TMN

The presumptuous ones smeared me with lies. As for me, with all my heart I will observe your orders. (Psalm 119: 69) TMN

 

Sources of information

most of the time second-hand information, erroneous, misunderstood, freely interpreted.

watch_tower.jpgIt is common for opponents to use statements by Russel (1870-1914) or Rutherford (1920-1940) and refer to 1910 or 1920 publications, "forgetting" subsequent updates or rectifications.

As if the understanding of the scriptures had frozen at these times.

It escapes them (?) As modern Jehovah's Witnesses refine their understanding of the scriptures over time. They have, without difficulty, recognized past mistakes.

What the Bible says :

"The light has come to the righteous, and the gladness to those who have the right heart." (Ps. 97:11) TMN

"The path of the righteous is like the light of dawn, the brightness of which increases until daylight." But "the path of the wicked is like darkness: they do not know what they will stumble upon". (Prov 4:18, 19) Osty Bible.

"And as for you, O Daniel, make these words secret and seal the book until the time of [the] end. Many will roam here and there, and [true] knowledge will become abundant. "(Daniel 12: 4) TMN

 

The sifting of every word or phrase in Jehovah's Witnesses' writings

The exercise consists of finding a sentence or an affirmation, taking it out of context and demonstrating: since there is one or more errors, it is that everything is wrong!

Unmatched as argument. As if the Witnesses had to be perfect and infallible!

But do they have the same look towards all? Opponents are careful not to apply the method to themselves.

As Jesus said, "For it is with the judgment that you judge that you will be judged, and it is with the measure you measure that we will measure for you." Why do you look at the straw that is in your brother's eye, but do not you consider the beam in your eye? " (Matthew 7: 2-3) TMN

Recall that the pope is supposed to be "infallible".

This does not prevent him from being part of the Hitherian youth and lacking courage in his statements.

During his quick visit to Auschwitz on May 31, 2006 Benedict XVI deplored the absence of God in this place. It would have been better to regret the silence of the leaders of the church and to condemn it.

Let us note that the abominable acts committed by the "official" religions (inquisition - with its terrible tortures, crusades - with their massacres, ...) are without measure with the grievances which are made today to the Jehovah's Witnesses.

This does not prevent these religions - and our opponents - from playing the great moralizers and despising certain "sects".

Jesus didn't need to depend on constantly changing light, new light, or changed his mind in mid-sermon.

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On 9/28/2019 at 11:51 PM, salomon said:

This does not prevent these religions - and our opponents - from playing the great moralizers and despising certain "sects

The founder of the BITE model that is used to label whoever thinks out of the mainstream as a “cult”  has just written a book entitled: “The Cult of Trump” about how that one employs aspects of mind control.

When you think half the country has fallen under the influence of a cult, it is evidence, in my view, that you have drunk too much of the Kool-Aid yourself.

It is also evidence that the entire BITE anti-cult model is no more than a leftest political philosophy that attempts to scientifically endorse a culture of victimhood and move it into protected status.

That’s not to say that everyone who doesn’t like Jehovah’s Witnesses is a leftest. But those who don’t like them on the basis that they are a “cult” usually are.

“Victimhood” overplayed is an odious thing. No one ever made a bad decision. When that appears to be the case, it is only because that one has been misled.

No one has ever changed goals in life simply in the course of human development. When that appears to be the case, it is only because that one has been misled.

And yet these same ones, who do no wrong themselves unless it can be blamed upon someone else, are the first to cry how others should be “held accountable” and must “take responsibility” for anything not according to their wish list of looking at things.

What a culture of crybabies anti-cultism spawns.

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2 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

What a culture of crybabies anti-cultism spawns.

I've noticed that everything seems to get called a "disorder" now. As if it's never the person's choice, but something they were born with. For example on the news yesterday the woman was talking about a plain old simple drug addict, and said he was suffering from "substance abuse disorder". Do these people really become drug addicts because they have no choice?

Similarly, why don't we call those who chose to be in a "cult", and then complain about it, something like "wimp disorder" or "don't have their own brain disorder". That way, they really can't help it, and shouldn't blame the cult. Yes, leave those cults alone!

 

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A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden.” Matt 5:14  Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. Rev 21:1-3  “But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple” Rev 21:22 And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him. 4 They shall see His face, and His name shall be on their foreheads. 5 There shall be no night there: They need no lamp nor light of the sun, for the Lord God gives them light. And they shall reign forever and ever. Rev 22:3-5 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 1 Cor 3:16 Pearl Doxsey: (type in her name and the title of the article in the search bar. The link should appear) “End of the New Covenant” “Those not anointed – what benefit now?” “The Holy City”   PLEASE SEE AND ENJOY,   “The Holy City” - http://pearl-holycity.blogspot.com/   Pearl Doxsey, “End of the New Covenant” Those not anointed-what benefit now? - http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/04/i-received-two-questions-1.html         And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.” (Heb.1:6) "Jesus will again, be brought into the world. At that time, the totality of his angels/messengers, will worship him... and be in service to, the Son of Man."  Pearl Doxsey
    • We do have very good reasons, the math for 1914 wouldn't work out otherwise Yes, I think we would laugh. After all, messing around with numbers to "fit something you want it to fit" sounds pretty cultish. When looking at this subject again, in light of Br. Splane's talk about types and antitypes, and how he said that (paraphrased) we have to make sure that when we are talking about types, that they are genuine types, because the word of God says they are puts a whole different slant on it. Then the idea is enforced even further when he says who is to decide if a person or event is a type, if the word of God doesn't say anything about it and he quotes Br. Shroeder: ( We need to exercise great care when applying accounts in the Hebrew Scriptures as prophetic patterns or types if these accounts are not applied in the Scriptures themselves). Therefor reading the account in Daniel 4 without any preconceived ideas, I see these main lessons: verse 17  "This is by the decree of watchers, and the request is by the word of the holy ones, so that people living may know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind and that he gives it to whomever he wants, and he sets up over it even the lowliest of men.”  Lesson: (quite self explanatory really) Jehovah can do what he wants because he is the ultimate sovereign. verse 27  "Therefore, O king, may my counsel be acceptable to you. Turn away from your sins by doing what is right, and from your iniquity by showing mercy to the poor. It may be that your prosperity will be extended". Lesson: Listen to Jehovah and do right, otherwise Jehovah will discipline you. verse 37  “Now I, Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar, am praising and exalting and glorifying the King of the heavens, because all his works are truth and his ways are just, and because he is able to humiliate those who are walking in pride. Lesson: similar to above, and also proof that Jehovah carries out his discipline.  ---------------- The reasoning put forward as to why this particular chapter of Daniel (4) has greater meaning (paraphrased from WT October 2014) is that the book of Daniel has a central theme, that of God's Kingdom, and keeps pointing forward to the establishment of that Kingdom under the rulership of his Son, Jesus. For example what it says in Daniel 2:44: "“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever.” I can see that Daniel Ch 2 is talking about Neb's. dream of the statue, representing subsequent rulerships, and that during the feet period God's Kingdom will come. In my opinion this is one valid and definite description of when the Kingdom will come. Then Chapters 7 and 8 are full of cryptic beasts, Chapter 9 prophesy about the coming of the Messiah including his cutting off, chapter 11 more cryptic descriptions, this time involving the king of the north and south, and the last chapter (12) the time of the end with Michael standing up. I need an encoder! I must admit, because of my more practical disposition, when we studied the Daniel book, I did not pay enough attention. My son was quite small and I had my hands full, and I can't even remember if we studied it again after that? For example what are these numbers about?: Daniel 12:11  “And from the time that the constant feature has been removed and the disgusting thing that causes desolation has been put in place, there will be 1,290 days. 12  “Happy is the one who keeps in expectation and who arrives at the 1,335 days!" (It's ok, no need to answer, I can look it up myself).   ,Sorry, I was being confusing. I didn't mean 607 was special. I meant what happened when counting 2520 years from that date, I meant that 1914 was a very significant year. (have to go, will carry on later)
    • My daughter would play her album Time After Time, over and over. When I found out that Eva Cassidy had already died when the album came out, it kind of made a few of the songs sound even more "haunting" than they already were.
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