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On 11/28/2019 at 12:54 AM, Arauna said:

The signs read: "love does not shun".   True, the liove of this world with its "practices" of fornication, LGBT does not shun. 

But we do not tolerate unrepentant "pracitisers"  of this kind of love they refer to.  This is my answer and I am a typical rank and file JW who cannot think for myself  according to all the slurs given me on this forum.

Should protesters have more rights than those having a peaceful religious assembly? I think understanding Australia laws would be helpful. Will it change the mindset here? I don’t believe anything said here will accomplish that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-protest_laws_in_Australia#Trespass_on_territory_land_act_1932

A right taken away from totalistic nations like Russia.

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1 hour ago, Shiwiii said:

didn't you assume that those people that stood with their signs were unrepentant sinners who support LGBT?

Ask Alan to vent his outrage over LGBT. Go on, ask him.

A bit of generalization from Arauna on this point, but the overall picture she nails.

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14 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Ask Alan to vent his outrage over LGBT. Go on, ask him.

A bit of generalization from Arauna on this point, but the overall picture she nails.

give me a break. You're just as bad as she is then. The assumptions made about people who no longer want to be a part of your beliefs is ridiculous. I don't even think in your own mind that those assumptions are correct, nor do they "paint the picture" as you say.  

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2 hours ago, Shiwiii said:

give me a break. You're just as bad as she is then

There ought be no controversy here. I said that there was some generalization.

Few take traditional sexual morality as seriously as do JWs. That means many of those that leave will not take it so seriously as they once did. In the case of those who go leftist (Alan was the example I cited) they vehemently argue in favor of LGBT rights.

You’re just trying to start a fight, annoyed that your protesters weren’t interviewed by the convention-goers.

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There should be no controversy when it comes to religious beliefs. Gays can no more infringe on Christian ethics, than Christians can impose their beliefs on them. The Judge is the man upstairs.

Does that mean, a good Christian should attend a gay marriage? Why not ask the best good Christian Joel Olsteen. I understand his wife said she would on CNN seen at Piers Morgan Live show.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/the-forsaken-a-rising-number-of-homeless-gay-teens-are-being-cast-out-by-religious-families-46746/

https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/civil-religion/cardinal-burke-joins-voices-calling-for-parents-to-shun-gay/article_ca5f6dee-5412-11e4-93fe-0017a43b2370.html

Christians will listen to their master, Christ with the books written by Paul, John and Peter while the gay community can be free to express their sexuality. The separation of church and state continues.

The old saying is, I don’t tell you what to do, and you don’t tell me what to do.

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8 hours ago, César Chávez said:

than Christians can impose their beliefs on them. The Judge is the man upstairs.

Does that mean, a good Christian should attend a

True, we are not supposed to force our beliefs on them.....but they will eventually force theirs on us.  This is what ex-jws and the world is blind to..... I firmly believe we will soon go to jail if one refuses to accept the new morality.... which true Christian's  will not bow to.  Part of the mark of the beast - a new world morality.  We will go to prison - the same as those people who are saying Islam is not a religion if peace are now having jail sentences in Europe. Jw's already had fines for small clip about pink ribbon in Europe.... 

Yes, it is part of the extreme politicization of gender...... the new morality. I 

10 hours ago, Shiwiii said:

You're just as bad as she is then.

Yes, I had a gay guy working for me when I was the head of publicity at the national orchestra. I treated him kind when he had problems - which no-one else did. Had discussions with him about the bible and told the truth.  Talked to him about the lifestyle. When he died I could not attend the funeral but afterwards friends told me his parents wanted to see me because their son spoke so highly if my kindness....

But I do not condone this behaviour and I understand that it will eventually be a mark between false Christians and true Christian's..... one that the government may clamp down on.  There is only 2 sides. .... that of jehovahs principles or the world.... which is ruled by Satan. There is still time to make the right choice.

10 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

bit of generalization from Arauna on this point, but the overall picture

You're  absolutely right! These people know nothing of love. When they sing or talk  about love it is mostly about sexual love..... no self-sacrificing love to be found anywhere.  I can see how their minds think..... they have been secularized...... a way of thinking in line with secular humanist thinking. After they leave jehovah they fall into this trap.  And you are right about Mr AlanF too..... he will go along with all ways of secular thinking (LGBT, evolution, ) because he rejects the bible and its morality. He will do "anything " it takes to save his life because he does not think there is accountability beyond this life.   .... so do what is takes to enjoy this life.... only.

 

These humanists find us foolish because we stick to Jehovahs morals..... but this is the difference between fleshly and spiritual thinking

12 hours ago, Shiwiii said:

You're not allowed to partake in the process of deciding who is shunned and who is not! 

This I do know - only people who do not have repentance and have a rebellious spirit are shunned....   mostly a gross sin such as lying, stealing, deceit, sexual immorality.

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The level of thinking ability of the youth today.....  No wonder USA is in such a mess! 

I used to mountain hike and ride motorcycles with my husband ..... I am used to seeing wayward people act out.  But the level of zombie-ism today is unprecedented. 

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28 minutes ago, Arauna said:

The level of thinking ability of the youth today.....  No wonder USA is in such a mess! 

I used to mountain hike and ride motorcycles with my husband ..... I am used to seeing wayward people act out.  But the level of zombie-ism today is unprecedented. 

Especially in the JW community.

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