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Information Control: JWs form a barricade at JW Melbourne protest to keep rank and file JW's from seeing "apostate" signs

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15 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Few take traditional sexual morality as seriously as do JWs.

unsubstantiated and pure speculation. 

 

15 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

annoyed that your protesters weren’t interviewed by the convention-goers

I did not commission them, nor did I even know their agenda. After seeing what they were actually speaking out against, I do support them and agree that the jw practice of shunning is very un-christian. Those jw's who do shun, do so based on assumption of what they think the person has done. This is evident by the posts here by yourself and Arauna.

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5 minutes ago, Shiwiii said:

This is evident by the posts here by yourself and Arauna.

Yes everything and anything goes in the world.... and those who are its bedfellows.  

Jehovah is the judge and those who were truly treated unfairly will be compensated by the great compensator himself.  I myself have not always been treated fairly by everyone...... but my endurance has brought me many blessings!

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5 hours ago, Arauna said:

These humanists find us foolish because we stick to Jehovahs morals..... but this is the difference between fleshly and spiritual thinking

I find jw's foolish because they follow the ideas of men, which changes to suit those in the power tower. 

 

5 hours ago, Arauna said:

This I do know - only people who do not have repentance and have a rebellious spirit are shunned....   mostly a gross sin such as lying, stealing, deceit, sexual immorality.

again, you have NO evidence of anything those people, who were there with their signs, did anything you think they did. You also don't have any evidence of what anyone who is df'd has done. What is said from the platform doesn't make it true. 

 

You are playing judge, jury and executioner based on what the octo-pope says to the DO/CO/BOE. .

3 minutes ago, Arauna said:

I myself have not always been treated fairly by everyone.

none of us have, it is the nature of humans. We are only to treat others the way Jesus did. Sometimes our human nature gets in the way, that is why we have forgiveness in the sacrifice and acceptance of what Jesus did for us, all of us.  

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3 hours ago, Arauna said:

Yes everything and anything goes in the world.... and those who are its bedfellows.  

Jehovah is the judge and those who were truly treated unfairly will be compensated by the great compensator himself.  I myself have not always been treated fairly by everyone...... but my endurance has brought me many blessings!

I was treated very unfairly by the jw's in my congregation, so have many others been mistreated by their congregations as well. It's a common trait with most jw's to treat everyone unfairly.

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11 minutes ago, Matthew9969 said:

was treated very unfairly by the jw's in

People are imperfect. I survived my tests..... and my expectations are not too high. People are people - everywhere on earth.... and they do not change overnight.  Neither did I change overnight. I know I am pretty outspoken for a JW.... but people do not see their own faults...... it is always the other's fault..

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13 hours ago, Arauna said:

True, we are not supposed to force our beliefs on them.....but they will eventually force theirs on us.  This is what ex-jws and the world is blind to..... I firmly believe we will soon go to jail if one refuses to accept the new morality.... which true Christian's  will not bow to. 

It has gone beyond ex-witnesses. Satan has devised a perfect scheme. Gay Rights will be the downfall of Christendom. On one hand, they will see the conflict within Christendom which all of God’s children deserve to be treated equally, rather than see how God dealt with his children in the past because of their sinful ways.

Society has lost all morality at this point. Live and let live is once again at the forefront of the ticket to happiness. All we can do is be like Noah and continue to proclaim God’s righteousness and hope people will listen, amid all that Noah endured for preaching God’s words. We have to endure it. If not, the man upstairs will once again place judgement upon his creation.

Do I condone their action? Of course not. My childhood best friend is gay. I have worked with gay people. I don’t accept their invites. I don’t socialize with them. What I do, once in a great while comfort a friend in distress because of ailing parents.

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19 hours ago, César Chávez said:

It has gone beyond ex-witnesses. Satan has devised a perfect scheme. Gay Rights will be the downfall of Christendom. On one hand, they will see the conflict within Christendom which all of God’s children deserve to be treated equally, rather than see how God dealt with his children in the past because of their sinful ways.

Society has lost all morality at this point. Live and let live is once again at the forefront of the ticket to happiness. All we can do is be like Noah and continue to proclaim God’s righteousness and hope people will listen, amid all that Noah endured for preaching God’s words. We have to endure it. If not, the man upstairs will once again place judgement upon his creation.

Do I condone their action? Of course not. My childhood best friend is gay. I have worked with gay people. I don’t accept their invites. I don’t socialize with them. What I do, once in a great while comfort a friend in distress because of ailing parents.

Be careful about speaking falsely of others, even down right lying...remember Jehovah hates liars. Not all churches in Christendom(of which you are a part of as well), endorse of allow homosexuality.

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5 minutes ago, Matthew9969 said:

Not all churches in Christendom(of which you are a part of as well), endorse of allow homosexuality

It is true. They do not. Some are far more vocal about it than Jehovah’s Witnesses. Some froth and crusade over it in realm of the general world, as Jehovah’s Witnesses do not.

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