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19 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

It is easy to overgeneralize, as @Arauna perhaps has done. Still, Shultz on my Twitter

One gets a sense of who really is here to get closer to the truth of a matter (within reason)  and who just wants to destroy - like Satan.  Satan: always wants to win by destroying all truth and reasonableness and uses deceit.   I do see a general attitude here at times. Sorry if it hurts feelings but there are people here whom I have called out as having OCD because I already know what their answer will be. They revert back to same old answers and behaviour expecting different results.

I guess I am predictable too.  I hate deceit...... 

19 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

think that’s very unlikely. I mean, come on, are you going to cuss out an

People are pretty disrespectful these days..... burn the bible, call jesus names... I think we will see very bad behaviour in future towards all who believe in christ. 

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13 hours ago, JW Insider said:

all over the world has drawn attention to a lot of things that go on in the world where the abused victims felt powerless. In many institutions, including once-hostile work environments, this is actually changing for the better. The threat of monetary sanctions has made even rich men who could once get aw

Although the "me too" movement has brought the plight  of individuals to the fore I think it is a temporary phenomena.  We will see a few institutions sued for money due to past  negligence (as JWs) to provide a public token of supposed caring and a "show" of justice but the  true and horrific extent of child trafficking and sex abuse will not be exposed.  It is a world- wide network which, I suspect, brings in profits comparable to, or more than drugs,  and is active also amongst the depraved elite, including CIA, judges, princes etc. It will escalate as young children are now groomed by the new UN school curriculim. Child sex abuse is covered up by law enforcement and government institutions we trust because rich and important people are involved. 

Here is another general  comment: satan's world will soon not be hidden any longer. It will no longer operate in the shadows. Seriously wicked things will go on in full view of the public as this way of thinking infiltrates all aspects if thinking in society..... like LGBT it will be tolerated.  Mankind is sinking lower and lower in a depraved mental state.

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On 12/10/2019 at 10:46 PM, 4Jah2me said:

if you only see the good, you are not being honest with yourself or others.  @Arauna is a case in point.  

Are you honest? I have just seen you bashing JWs, never acknowledging anything good about them.   You have given me labels many times in your so-called bias - search for something which can only be called truth if it confirms to your personal viewpoint. 

On 12/10/2019 at 9:12 PM, 4Jah2me said:

don't. I just want it made clean. As

How unrealistic this expectation in a wicked world...... Do you believe the bible?   Yes or No ?   God himself chose king Saul for his humility and then saul turned aside and became unapproved.... to the extent that he visited the witch if Endor calling up the dead.   Jesus chose Jude himself after praying with holy spirit and jude later became  wicked (practicing theft, deceit) and eventually betrayed him..... 

We can try to obtain a clean congregation but there will always be individuals who can turn wicked and create problems until someone speaks up and evidence is obtained.   And if the government cannot get a conviction ?  Then we only have rumours to go on..... which is unloving if there is no proof.  The bible itself says we must not defame others.  It is also a grave offence.  This is why it is hard to obtain perfection. Do we err on the side of obtaining justice or mercy...... because both these attributes are important.

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On 12/10/2019 at 9:12 PM, 4Jah2me said:

also include the unnecessary deaths of people dying through lack of blood, but that one is still debatable as the true meaning of the scriptures on that are not exactly known. Hence the GB keep moving the goal posts. And i will believe Matthew 12 v 9 -12. where Jesus talks about saving lives. 

@Arauna only' knows it is a price well worth paying' because she isn't actually paying that price

Are you for real? You know nothing about me.....and the tests I had to face.... 

But I know the word of God and I have paid my dues.  My daughter had cancer and had surgery  which lasted the entire day..... without blood and she was 8 and half months old.  ....

If she had taken blood she would not have survived.  It is what the doctors and this world don't tell you that is important!  I can share all the info I learnt  with you to prove to you that the bible is absolutely right when it cautions us to abstain from blood. .... if you are interested I can inform you.

It takes the liver 30 days to break down foreign blood in the system..... if the person is too weak they get anaphalactic shock from the blood transfusion - which is never given as the reason for death on the death certificate. ..... always complications from surgery.

Life is important to me ..... but everlasting life is more important. 

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10 hours ago, Arauna said:

Sorry if it hurts feelings but there are people here whom I have called out as having OCD because I already know what their answer will be. They revert back to same old answers and behaviour expecting different results.

I get exactly what you mean, kinda like these? 

"Families are free to report abuse to the authorities" 

"leave it in Jehova's hands"

"click on jw.orb"

"the answers are on the website"

"That's for Jehova to decide" 

"we don't shun former members" 

"we only had the library card"

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Shiwiii said:

get exactly what you mean, kinda like these? 

"Families are free to report abuse to the authorities" 

"leave it in Jehova's hands"

"click on jw.orb"

"the answers are on the website"

"That's for Jehova to decide" 

"we don't shun former members" 

"we only had the library card

Your OCD  deceit and hate  is showing. .....

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On 12/10/2019 at 3:20 AM, Shiwiii said:

what Arauna, if I were here to spread hate, there would be plenty more of it. The fact of the matter is that you and I are very similar, we both want to open each others eyes. 

One can only open someones eyes if they are really searching for the truth.  I apologize if I have become too skeptical about the motives of people who contribute on this forum.  There is enough evidence here to suggest that I may be correct. 

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12 hours ago, Arauna said:

Your OCD  deceit and hate  is showing. .....

Hate? anything but! Just supporting your statement. 

11 hours ago, Arauna said:

One can only open someones eyes if they are really searching for the truth.  I apologize if I have become too skeptical about the motives of people who contribute on this forum.  There is enough evidence here to suggest that I may be correct. 

 

I completely agree. You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot force it to drink. 

No need to apologize, we all here have different ideas about what the wt is all about, and have all heard it before. 

Assumptions though, only work in your own mind. 

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