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4Jah2me <> Cesar Chavez

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@César Chávez Well the GB and their Lawyers are keeping the paedophiles inside the CCJW / Watchtower by hiding that 20 + year database, so they are not cleaning the Org at all. How you can spout about What is the point of keeping Christian ethics, when the CCJW Org is so immoral i do not know. 

Wake up CC. Your Org is being part of this world right now. Your CCJW Org is better known for Child Sexual Abuse Earthwide than for anything else. Earthwide Child Sexual Abuse CC, just remember that when you spout about Christian ethics.  

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19 hours ago, César Chávez said:

You have 20+ years of leaked BOE letters that will contradict this false claim, yet you have no problem keeping a fornicator in the Org in another thread. Wow! 😉

However, according to you singling out one religion, that would mean you live in a pedophile world, since society is included, within that evil deed.

What is your first language ? Probably not English unless you were drunk when you wrote the above. None of it makes any sense.

A. I don't have 20 years of any letters. B. I am not keeping a fornicator in the Org. 

C. This FORUM is about Jehovah's Witnesses, Hence I speak about THEM. Why would i want to talk about the Catholic Church, or any other, on a JW forum ? 

D. Everyone lives in the world, and you could therefore say that everyone lives in a 'paedophile world' as it is part of the world we all live in. 

Jesus said  (recorded at John 17 v 15 )  ( 

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"I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but to keep them from the evil one.

So you see, we are all in this world. But your GB are still withholding evidence about Paedophiles in the CCJW. So, your GB are guilty of great sins against God, Christ and humans. 

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@César Chávez Allen I am not your mate and you do write rubbish. 

And it is you that are part of an immoral Organisation.

For my part I do my best to warn people, especially families with young children, to keep away from the CCJW and it's immorality and child abuse. I also warn people about it's false teachings too. 

I wonder which God and Christ prefer, someone that warns others to help other stay safe, or, people in an immoral organisation that encourage others into an unsafe immoral place.

I might not be preaching the 'good news' but neither am I supporting Paedophiles in an immoral Org. 

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@César Chávez My morals are not perfect, but then, I'm not trying to run an organisation and I'm not trying to mislead millions of people either. I also don't expect to be in that New World.  I am a hater in one way though. As the Apostle Paul said at Romans 12 v 9 "Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good".  So my hate is directed by scripture which is inspired of God's holy spirit. 
 

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1 hour ago, 4Jah2me said:

My morals are not perfect... I also don't expect to be in that New World.  I am a hater in one way though.  ...So my hate is directed by scripture which is inspired of God's holy spirit. 

Doesn’t this remind one of Gandalf the Grey going down into the abyss to cover the escape of Frodo and his pals? Why don’t you divert a little more energy towards the goal of being in that New World, you yo-yo?

Perhaps then your credentials for condemning everything under the sun will improve.

#FlyYouFools!

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@TrueTomHarley You must watch a lot of television or films or something as you seem to reference so many things I've never heard of. Both you and Arauna make references to things that have no meaning to me. (Perhaps I lead a sheltered life). 

Now as for your words of wisdom, "Why don’t you divert a little more energy towards the goal of being in that New World, you yo-yo?"  This is sensible......... But then your words "Perhaps then your credentials for condemning everything under the sun will improve.", are too general. You know that I don't condemn 'everything'.  Paul's words, as I mentioned "Hate what is evil", prove the point. 

It is because I hate what is evil, that i cannot be part of the CCJW right now.... I am not saying that 'everything' about the Org is evil, but that certain things are.... And @JW Insider certainly seems to find 'discrepancies' in the 'teachings' of the Org. 1914 seems to be suspect for instance. So it's not only what you and others call my 'favorite subject' that holds me back, but also some of the teachings and 'rules'.  I admit to being at a complete loss right now. You laugh at my idea of a True Anointed but it's the only way forward as far as I can see. You also laugh at my idea of a much bigger 'Body of servants' taking the lead in the Org, but my point has been proven that so much can now be done via internet that a much bigger 'GB' type of leadership is easily possible with Anointed leaders from all around the Earth. 

But i will come back to the Org's teaching of "Only baptised JWs will be saved", and I'm not liable to be a JW for many years if things continue as they are in the Org. So, I will take the risk of doing what i think is right and stay away from the CCJW, and I will face the consequences. If i die for doing wrong then i can say i did wrong for the right reasons :) 

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@César Chávez Show me where I'm advocating my own online community. or where I'm advocating anyone else's online community.  Come on give me a link then where " I " am doing those things. 

It's bad enough that your GB are doing those things ( distortion, exaggeration, and lies.) , I'm certainly not going to follow them into that pit. 

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