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Oh dear @TrueTomHarley and @xero , two bullying elders or ex-elders, showing their true colours as the bullys they are. 

When i was a JW I was humble enough to use the name for God that i was TOLD to use.  But now i am not under that pressure from the Elders or others. Therefore I call God, Almighty God or Heavenly Father, becaue I personally do not know the true pronunciation of God's name.  From my standpoint I am again being humble as i do not want to insult Almighty God. It is only you bullies that wish to insult me. It shows your lack of love, that love which Jesus spoke of, even to love your enemies.  

You are showing the true colours of Elders in the JW Org, and I thank you for doing so. You show your domineering attitude and your judgement of others. 

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Me too! And I've noticed that the majority of those who leave, stop using it. To me that says a lot.

If he would be equally outraged at a child expressing support for his school, love for his country, support for some local cause, rallying for some local politician, selling Scout cookies, knocking on

Yes. Of course. He will be merging “Almighty God” with Jesus Chrst presently, if he hasn’t already, and it may not be long after that he sends “Almighty God” to the ash heap entirely to worship Jesus.

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48 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:

When in truth it is YHWH. 

It was written that way, but it sure wasn't pronounced like that. It was pronounced in ancient Hebrew with pertinent syllables. We speak English. Each language pronounces names differently. Jehovah understands all languages of the world, including his name in that language. 

But we've gone through all of this before....

So my observation seems correct

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8 minutes ago, Anna said:

A while ago I watched an interview that was made in the 80's with an ex-elder in Ireland who became dissatisfied with the way the organization was running things. He succeeded in getting a large following. This period of time was even mentioned in one of the yearbooks that talked about Ireland. Anyway, most of the interview was about his gripes with this and that, the usual, but what struck me was that at the end of the interview he was encouraging others who had doubts: not to worry about trying to do things God's way, because God doesn't mind if we get things wrong, and if we happen to feel closer to Jesus, and start praying to him, and worshipping him, then God will be ok with that too.

(Paraphrased, and I have mentioned this on the forum before)

<sarcasm>I love how he 'knows' Jehovah's view on things</sarcasm>

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8 hours ago, Anna said:

It was written that way, but it sure wasn't pronounced like that. It was pronounced in old Hebrew with pertinent syllables. We speak English. Each language pronounces names differently. Jehovah understands all languages of the world, including his name in that language. 

You keep playing the same old record. But your old record does not give any proof of how Almighty God wants His name pronounced in any language. Only with Holy Spirit can God's true name be known, but you JWs no longer believe in God using His Holy Spirit. You rely on Men's words to teach you. 

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23 hours ago, xero said:

I'm always suspicious when people avoid using "Jehovah". The argument about not knowing the exact pronunciation would then apply to Jehoshaphat, Jehoram or pretty much any name in the Hebrew scriptures, but for some reason the punctiliousness is applied only to "Jehovah".

 

19 hours ago, Anna said:

Me too! And I've noticed that the majority of those who leave, stop using it. To me that says a lot.

Uttering a hybrid name created in the 16th century makes more of an impression on you than calling God, “Father” as Jesus did?  Or, it makes more of an impression on you than the tetragrammaton…

Or, the name given to Moses when he asked,

“Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is My name for ever, and this is My memorial unto all generations.”  Exod 3:13-15

 

 Maybe, instead of concentrating on a literal contrived name, as a "mark" of faithfulness to God,  there are those who have left the organization who seek to know more behind the true name.  They respect Him as Jesus set the example, by personally approaching in Him in prayer, as "Father".   Matt 6:9-13

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Witness said:

 

Uttering a hybrid name created in the 16th century makes more of an impression on you than calling God, “Father” as Jesus did?  Or, it makes more of an impression on you than the tetragrammaton…

Or, the name given to Moses when he asked,

“Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is My name for ever, and this is My memorial unto all generations.”  Exod 3:13-15

 

 Maybe, instead of concentrating on a literal contrived name, as a "mark" of faithfulness to God,  there are those who have left the organization who seek to know more behind the true name.  They respect Him as Jesus set the example, by personally approaching in Him in prayer, as "Father".   Matt 6:9-13

 

 

At the risk of beating the drum. I'm always suspicious when people avoid using "Jehovah". The argument about not knowing the exact pronunciation would then apply to Jehoshaphat, Jehoram or pretty much any name in the Hebrew scriptures, but for some reason the punctiliousness is applied only to "Jehovah". The reason is that God's name tastes bad in their mouths.

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27 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:

You keep playing the same old record. But your old record does not give any proof of how Almighty God wants His name pronounced in any language.

 

5 minutes ago, Witness said:

Maybe, instead of concentrating on a literal contrived name, as a "mark" of faithfulness to God,  there are those who have left the organization who seek to know more behind the true name.  They respect Him as Jesus set the example, by personally approaching in Him in prayer, as "Father". *  

* "let your name be known"

"God said: “Because he has affection for me, I will rescue him. I will protect him because he knows my name". (Psalm 91:14)

 "Those knowing your name will trust in you; You will never abandon those seeking you, O Jehovah". (Psalms 9:10)

Biblical scholar Francis B. Dennio, in an article he wrote, in the Journal of Biblical Literature, said: "Jehovah misrepresents Yahweh no more than Jeremiah misrepresents Yirmeyahu. The settled connotations of Isaiah and Jeremiah forbid questioning their right." ............form "Jehovah" is not a barbarism, but is the best English form available, being that it has for centuries gathered the necessary connotations and associations for valid use in English.

 

Let's stop playing games. You know you cannot let the name Jehovah pass your lips without shuddering because of your hate for His Witnesses.  Like I said, it tells me a lot.

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2 minutes ago, Anna said:

Let's stop playing games. You know you cannot let the name Jehovah pass your lips without shuddering because of your hate for His Witnesses.  Like I said, it tells me a lot.

WHO are God's true "witnesses"?  All JWs?  Or, His holy priesthood that is not recognized as a priesthood in the organization?   Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Rev 17:4; Rev 5:9,10

There is no hate.  If "Jehovah" was to be taught as God's name, Jesus would have made that name known.

16 minutes ago, xero said:

At the risk of beating the drum. I'm always suspicious when people avoid using "Jehovah". The argument about not knowing the exact pronunciation would then apply to Jehoshaphat, Jehoram or pretty much any name in the Hebrew scriptures, but for some reason the punctiliousness is applied only to "Jehovah". The reason is that God's name tastes bad in their mouths.

Are you putting the Almighty God on par with people?  Again, the example we use  in addressing God, is Jesus.  

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12 minutes ago, Witness said:

WHO are God's true "witnesses"?  All JWs?  Or, His holy priesthood that is not recognized as a priesthood in the organization?   Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Rev 17:4; Rev 5:9,10

There is no hate.  If "Jehovah" was to be taught as God's name, Jesus would have made that name known.

Are you putting the Almighty God on par with people?  Again, the example we use  in addressing God, is Jesus.  

You can jaw on as you like, but you're still squirreling around doing your best to avoid God's name - Jehovah. Another thing that convinces me that Jehovah is right, is the kinds of people and their specious and inconsistent arguments against using Jehovah. It's like in the movies when the vampires shrink back at the sight of a cross. Gods name just freaks them out and they have to, like a startled octopus ink up the room w/junky inconsistent arguments.

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