Jehovah’s Witnesses: The World’s Most Persecuted Religion

[Witness]

1 hour ago, TrueTomHarley said:

‘What need have Witnesses for a legal tool of the world?’

A true believer in Jesus Christ would not battle for legal spiritual rights. (John 4:23,24)  They put their full trust in God and His Son.  But JWs have established their "kingdom" in this world and thus, feel the need to fight for everything that will aid the development and preservation of, their kingdom.  They fight for the organization's freedom of worship, and remove the freedom of worship of God's anointed priesthood within their walls. (no bonding together to worship and study the scriptures)   An act of hypocrisy, I would say. An act of trampling down the Temple/dwelling of God.  (Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; Gal 1:10)

Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”  John 18:36

 

[Srecko Sostar]

3 hours ago, WyattEarp said:

Should the Org, submit to secular authority at ALL COST?

Should the JW member submit to GB at All Cost? 

If you advocate the autonomy and independence of an individual or group or WTJWorg Corporation to resist the bad laws of “secular authorities,” then you should allow the same for JW members who need to be able to discern what is wrong with GB leadership and their doctrines and instructions.

4 hours ago, WyattEarp said:

Why didn’t the Vatican SUBMIT to all authority?

Perhaps because Vatican is "all authority".

The Vatican City State, also known as The Vatican, became independent from Italy with the Lateran Treaty (1929), and it is a distinct territory under "full ownership, exclusive dominion, and sovereign authority and jurisdiction" of the Holy See, itself a sovereign entity of international law, which maintains the city state's temporal, diplomatic, and spiritual independence. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_City

4 hours ago, WyattEarp said:

1 Peter 2:21-23

21 For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps. 22 He committed no sin, neither was deceit found in his mouth. 23 When he was reviled, he did not revile in return; when he suffered, he did not threaten, but continued entrusting himself to him who judges justly.

Hmm! GB with their lawyers have deceptive words in their mouth as they presents themselves on JW TV and in Courts...

...and they do threat their "accusers" with; human rights, OSCE, UN, and "worldly" Courts, asking for "justice" from "secular judges", and not from - "him who judges justly". If GB is called to suffer in the same manner as Jesus, then why GB fight for their "property"* (in Russia or anywhere else)? Why not to be jailed and patiently wait for JHVH? Why JW fight against "bad governments" and not follow Jesus example who did not seek to be acquitted of unjust charges and released? 

* according to WT publications, "property" includes all material and spiritual assets and resources, including people, JW members

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

@WyattEarp = Billy the Kid = CC. You accuse @Witness of things but show no proof.

However, This Christian also implicates God as a liar. Therefore, God’s words should be invalid by “witness” standards since it contradicts scripture and God. Ironically, by the same means, she has advocated in the past at every turn of her arguments. Do NOT follow, men! Follow Her! A Woman, instead 

 So WE / BtK / CC show us exacty where @Witness implicates God as a liar AND show us exactly where @Witness says follow her.  

@Witness has never said people should go to war. That was JTR that said war was not murder. 

WT, using one more aka does you no good at all. You are still a trouble maker that twists people's comments. A bit like TTH.

Read the instruction from Jesus recorded at Matthew 5 : 38 through 45

 “You heard that it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’a ³⁹  However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him.b ⁴⁰  And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment;c ⁴¹  and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. ⁴²  Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one who wants to borrow from you.d⁴³  “You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbore and hate your enemy.’ ⁴⁴  However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemiesf and to pray for those who persecute you,g ⁴⁵  so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens,h since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous.

This instruction was given to those followers of Jesus that were to become Anointed ones, as verse 45 shows. Also verse 48 proves the point.

 You must accordingly be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

However, some of you believe that it applies to everyone, so why don'tyou live by it ? And if you believe your GB are anointed then why don't they live by it ? 

Jesus words were direct 

Do not resist the one who is wicked,  Give to the one asking you, Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you.

I don't see it mentioning suing people for using a song or for uploading videos. I don't see it mentioning using dishonest lawyers to tell lies in court rooms. I don't see it mentioning resisting the payment of compensation for CSA commited by pedophile Elders and M/s.

Oh how your GB are turning their backs on God and Christ, just to keep their own power over people, and to keep that idol W/t / JW Org running. 

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

22 hours ago, WyattEarp said:

In one hand, you have corrupt regimes like China, Iran, Russia. Does this mean, people should allow those nations to “kill” or “enslave” their people? Under, scripture, it would appear the answer would be, yes! Romans 13:1-7, Context: Submission to Governing Authorities

How about nations that are causing genocide and crimes against humanity, like certain countries in Africa, North Korea, and certain central American Nations, Venezuela?

All this mentioned here surely relates to the 'Critical times hard to deal with'  and 'the last days' of Satan's system.

So if you believe that, why fight against it ? Doesn't scripture say 'Raise you head up for your deliverence is near' ? 

Why are people fighting against the things that Almighty God and Christ are allowing to happen ?  

Isn't it a bit like going through surgery / an opperation, but knowing that it is all for the best in the end. 

Isn't God's will taking place through this wickedness ?  Isn't this all part of God's plan ? 

True Christians have the hope of the resurrection and the hope of a 'new life' either in heaven or here on Earth. 

The W/t, CCJW, JW org will surely fall as all business religions will. BUT true Christians will survive either through Armageddon or in the resurrection.