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  2. ... especially if you are a laboratory mouse, and your "Surgeon Rodentia" has sufficient grant money. I looked up your statement, and it appears to be mostly true, depending on the skill of a surgeon in removing the bone, and leaving the sheath that surrounds it mostly intact. Apparently the cells in that envelope "remember" how to rebuild bone. Thanks ... I learned something new today. I know you are new here derek1956, and I hope you do not mind me challenging every statement made for detail. It's not personal, ... I challenge everybody and everything, and am generally a colossal pain in the butt. I am 72 years old, and feel entitled to be obnoxious.
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  4. So will this new law give the JW Org an excuse to destroy information / data that it already has on record ? That could prove very convenient for the Org couldn't it .
  5. Are their any videos for the 2019 convention?

  6. We have got a great way to minimise our Not-At-Homes. We've been doing it for years: Not Homes.mp4
  7. I have avoided my old habit of fault-finding for quite a while, but this one just brought up the need for some good, old-fashioned nit-picking again. One thing I like to avoid is the use of a scripture that appears so removed from context that we look like proof text cherry-pickers. I know the average householder is not going to notice at all, but it still seems like a stretch to use Jeremiah 29 as an "all encompassing verse." Here's why: In context, Jeremiah is saying that his fellow Jewish countrymen just have to give in to Babylon (in effect, they must now compromise with Babylon and pray for Babylon and whatever city they end up in) and let themselves be taken willingly to Babylon as captives. He says that if you allow Babylon to take you, you can try to do the best you can while you are living there and, because the entire Babylonian Empire is only supposed to last for 70 years max, and at least 13 or 14 of those years are already used up. (The 14 years detail is not part of our doctrine, but is clear from the Hebrew of Jeremiah 10:25; 28:17, 29:10, etc.) So, Jeremiah says that you are going to be a long time in Babylon, so if you just give in, by building houses, planting fruit trees, and getting married and having children in Babylon, you might even personally have a chance to come back to this nation, when Babylon's time is up. So, in context, Jeremiah is saying that this is a situation where people are lying to you, but if you follow Jehovah's thinking, there is a good solution by compromising with Babylon. But Jehovah's thinking also includes the thought that if you decide to listen to prophets like Hananiah, or decide to defend Israel/Judah, or defend the Temple, or defend the Davidic kingdom, or even listen to certain misguided prophets already in Babylon. For these Jehovah's thinking is as follows: (Jeremiah 29:1“For this is what Jehovah says to the king sitting on the throne of David and to all the people dwelling in this city, your brothers who have not gone with you into exile, 17 ‘This is what Jehovah of armies says: “Here I am sending against them the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, and I will make them like rotten figs that are so bad they cannot be eaten.”’ 18 “‘And I will pursue them with the sword, with famine, and with pestilence, and I will make them an object of horror to all the kingdoms of the earth, and a curse, and an object of astonishment, something to whistle at, and a reproach among all the nations to which I disperse them, 19 because they have not listened to my words that I sent to them with my servants the prophets,’ declares Jehovah, ‘sending them again and again.’ “‘But you have not listened,’ declares Jehovah. 20 “Therefore, hear the word of Jehovah, all you exiled people, whom I have sent away from Jerusalem to Babylon. 21 This is what Jehovah of armies, the God of Israel, says. . . , ‘Here I am giving them into the hand of King Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar of Babylon, and he will strike them down before your eyes. 22 And what happens to them will become a curse spoken by all the exiles of Judah in Babylon: “May Jehovah make you like Zed·e·kiʹah and like Aʹhab, whom the king of Babylon roasted in the fire!” . . . “‘“I am the One who knows, and I am a witness,” declares Jehovah.’” . . . 28 For he [Jeremiah] even sent to us at Babylon, saying: “It will be a long time! Build houses and live in them. Plant gardens and eat their fruit,—”’”’” In other words this is not an all encompassing verse about how Jehovah is not ready to rake us over, or that he is thinking good thoughts toward us. It's about a specific set of circumstances when he is about to rake a lot of people over, and is thinking to make a curse out of those who won't listen to Jehovah. In this case, Jehovah wanted his people to stop defending Judea and Jerusalem and their Davidic kingdom. He would only protect them if they "compromised" with the enemy and prayed for that enemy, at least until its 70 years was up. I wouldn't be as nit-picky about your use of Matthew 5:3 because I'm sure we all have the right idea on this one. But there is something to note here: Very few people know this verse as one that says anything about being conscious of something, especially not conscious of a spiritual need. In Greek, the verse just says, happy are those who are poor in spirit (the same words that would mean depressed or broken hearted or those with a "broken spirit." Most translations correctly say something like "poor in spirit" which aligns with parallel expressions in context about those who are meek, merciful, or mournful. Our NWT translation is more likely an interpretation rather than a translation here. If it were in an obscure place like Jeremiah it might be different, but a lot of people know the "beatitudes" from the Sermon on the Mount, and this could give them the impression we have changed the Bible to fit our beliefs. There are plenty of good replacement scriptures, however, which I'm sure you already know.
  8. There were nights when the wind was so cold That my body froze in bed if I just listened to it Right outside the window There were days when the sun was so cruel That all the tears turned to dust And I just knew my eyes were drying up forever (forever) I finished crying in the instant that you left And I can't remember where or when or how And I banished every memory you and I had ever made But when you touch me like this And you hold me like that I just have to admit That it's all coming back to me When I touch you like this And I hold you like that It's so hard to believe but it's all coming back to me (It's all coming back, it's all coming back to me now) There were moments of gold and there were flashes of light There were things I'd never do again But then they'd always seemed right There were nights of endless pleasure It was more than any laws allow Baby, baby If I kiss you like this And if you whisper like that It was lost long ago but it's all coming back to me If you want me like this And if you need me like that It was dead long ago but it's all coming back to me It's so hard to resist and it's all coming back to me I can barely recall But it's all coming back to me now But it's all coming back There were those empty threats and hollow lies And whenever you tried to hurt me I just hurt you even worse and so much deeper There were hours that just went on for days When alone at last we'd count up all the chances That were lost to us forever (forever) But you were history with the slamming of the door And I made myself so strong again somehow And I never wasted any of my time on you since then But if I touch you like this And if you kiss me like that It was so long ago but it's all coming back to me If you touch me like this And if I kiss you like that It was gone with the wind But it's all coming back to me (It's all coming back, it's all coming back to me now) There were moments of gold And there were flashes of light There were things we'd never do again But then they'd always seemed right There were nights of endless pleasure It was more than all your laws allow Baby, baby, baby If you touch me like this And when you hold me like that It was gone with the wind but it's all coming back to me When you see me like this And when I see you like that Then we see what we want to see all coming back to me The flesh and the fantasies all coming back to me I can barely recall but it's all coming back to me now If you forgive me all this If I forgive you all that We forgive and forget and it's all coming back to me When you see me like this And when I see you like that We see just what we want to see all coming back to me The flesh and the fantasies all coming back to me I can barely recall but it's all coming back to me now And when you kiss me like this (It's all coming back to me now) And when I touch you like that (It's all coming back to me now) If you do it like this (It's all coming back to me now) And if we Songwriters: Jim Steinman It's All Coming Back to Me Now lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group
  9. Huh. It would be a miracle if you "left" your faith in the organization. But, marvelous things do happen. I have full confidence in knowing the answer to this question. “After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him. 67 So Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you want to go away as well?”68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? John 6:66-68 Sigh... I fear you may not know the right answer, since your leaders always throw you a curve ball. It’s interesting how those who turn to Jesus Christ, once leaving the WT, speak about Christ, not feeling the need to continually back up his words with “organization” or, “faithful and discreet slave”. Does God reject them for doing so? Will they survive WT's rendition of Armageddon? They are "killed" by your leaders for following Jesus Christ. Rev 13:15; 11:7 These are the things I know.
  10. Río de Janeiro Esta comunidad se llama Rocinha y es la más grande de Sudamérica con 350,000 personas viviendo aquí en la montaña incluyendo a muchos hermanos. La situación no es tan segura actualmente, por tal razón no se pueden utilizar dos salones del reino aquí pues el riesgo de recibir una bala perdida es demasiado grande. Sin embargo, los hermanos están contentos y conservan el celo y muchos estudios bíblicos se conducen aquí. Compartido por all4thelove
  11. Yikes! No “data-gathering” according to the new privacy law. What to do? As far as I am concerned, this is a blessing in disguise. Jehovah’s people will adapt. They always do. I even think it will be beneficial for us, overall. We have some people who become obsessed over records, the way some people do with regard to records of any sort. We have some who call back repeatedly if the householder does so much as give them the time of day—training them not to, in my opinion. Working with this new European law will force more discernment and maturity, though initially inconvenient in some respects. I wouldn’t mind if it spread to here in the States. This law will alter the logistics of the Matthew 28:19-20 aspect of Christianity— “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, (Mathew 28:19) but it will not impact the Matthew 24:14 aspect at all: “And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14) It will probably even enhance it. The more I think about it, the more I like it. Most of the suggested field service presentations I don’t like. I don’t like them because they do not work for me. Of course, it is “different strokes for different folks,” but from what I have seen, they don’t work that well for others, either. They are incremental in approach, and many, when implemented by anyone less than an expert, come off as passive-aggressive. Sometimes I wonder where they come from, because they do not necessarily dovetail with each other. Probably they are the products of various full-time evangelizers who are brainstorming. Since many start with floating a question that will seldom be on the typical person’s mind, such as “Where are the dead?” you pretty much have to record the response and hope that you have laid the foundation for furthering it or starting another topic. All that requires you write stuff down, which is now illegal unless the person has authorized it. Better—or at least it works better for me—to bring up something more all-encompassing. The circuit overseer last visit made much of the 1-minute (and six seconds) video “Would You Like Good News?” Invite people to hear it—it only is one minute (and it is good to say literally one minute) The video ends with a plug for the Good News from God brochure and that brochure has a table of contents: “Which topic interests you most?” It says. They include Who Is God?, Who Is Jesus Christ?, What Is God’s Purpose for the Earth?, What Hope Is There for the Dead?, What Is God’s Kingdom?, Why Does God Allow Evil and Suffering?, How Can Your Family Be Happy?, and How Can You Draw Close to God? The video is here: If the person registers any interest, you can set up something then and there. If not, off you go with a sincere thanks for their time—after all, we call without appointment, which is becoming a rarety in the West, nobody is required to listen to what we have to say, so whenever someone does, I thank them for their time. Some all-encompassing verses that also work for starters—just offer to read a verse, give a brief statement as to why you read it, ask what the person thinks about it, and then offer to disappear. Such as: Jeremiah 29:11 - “For I myself well know the thoughts that I am thinking toward you,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘thoughts of peace, and not of calamity, to give you a future and a hope.” (The reason I like the verse is because some people think God is out to rake us over, or judging from the current state of things, that there is no God, and this verse says not only that there is, but he thinks good thoughts towards us.) Or Matthew 5:3 - “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.” (The reason I like the verse is because we all have a spiritual need, but we are not necessarily conscious of it—it is more like vitamins, that if neglected, may lead to sickness and we never know quite why.) There are no end of verses that can be used. It just takes adjusting to the idea. All work except for the verse Tom Pearlsandswine latched onto in my first book, ‘Tom Irregardless and Me’: Revelation 21:8: “But as for the cowards and those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderers and fornicators and those practicing spiritism and idolaters and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur. This means the second death.” “The reason I like that verse,” he would say, “is that it shows sinners are going down and you’d better shape up.” He is such an idiot. With a flat response to any chosen verse other than his, off you go. With a favorable one, you can even go to a longer video, with the intro that I find works well, “This video runs almost four minutes, but you don’t have to listen to it all. The minute it gets boring, hand it back.” It puts the control in the householder’s hands and defuses any impression of being pushy. I hate being pushy and try hard not to give that impression. There are few people in the world easier to get rid of than me. None of these presentations require the use of memory-jogging records. If the response if favorable, there is no difficulty in exchanging contact information if desired. As for keeping track of who is not-at-home—JWs do this—I even know one person who writes down every address beforehand and crosses them out as she finds them home, completely reversing how it is intended to be done—one might respond by forgetting all about it. Put the angels in charge of that one. Call when the majority of persons are likely to be home in the first place, which we do not always do. As for keeping records of those who have requested we not call on them again—well, I don’t know. Tell them we’d love to comply but the new law is screwing us up. Not to mention that we have long been moving in that direction anyway. That’s what the mobile cart witnessing is all about. That’s what the website is all about. They are two forms of advertising the good news without going to anyone’s door at all. On the home page of jw.org is a new Bible study feature. A series of studies that are multimedia, self-guided at one’s own pace, and require no registration or entry of info—“I’ll never know if you do it or not,” I tell people. In fact, I am looking forward to the time—the timing and circumstances will have to be just right, you wouldn’t do it just with anyone—when I tell someone, “I don’t want to study the Bible with you. Do it yourself.” We spoon-feed people too much, and it is hardly necessary with the majority. I even think being constantly obsessed over presentation of the very basics keeps us from pressing on to maturity, in some respects. They have done us a favor with their new law, is my take. Photo: DSC00212 by gauge opinion
  13. Sigh...... Yes, it is because I am thinking of leaving the faith and I knew that you must have all the answers.
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  15. If I have an opportunity to share truth, I will. I know you are not the only fish in the pond who comes here to read. Matt 13:47-50 Besides, wasn't it you who kept asking me questions and resurrecting a recent thread?
  16. Sigh..... I answered a little snarkily because I was trying to avoid what i got anyway—yet another endless tirade that amounts to little more than they, the ‘bad’ anointed are doing it wrong and you, as one of the outmaneuvered ‘good’ anointed, would do it better. I just can’t take it anymore. No, I do not think they are the apostles. Nor do they. Yes, they are taking the lead of those who brought an accurate understanding of the Bible to me. I mean, it’s not as though I heard it from you.
  17. Well why not say I am proud to be trying to be a JW. Well there has only been 3 True Jehovah`s Witnesses in the history of mankind, \two of them were disfellowshipped (in a way) and the other proved to be true even to his death. so we are all trying to be like the third one the only true Jehovah`s Witness Jesus Christ!
  18. I see that no one here knows either. Must be fake news then, made to scare jws into thinking something that really isn't there.
  19. Maybe you were, maybe you weren't. Just in case you were... What I “preach” about concerns the condition of “craftiness” that you and the anointed ones live under. Personally, I feel relief knowing that I can now approach God and Jesus without anyone telling me how to do it. This is what God wants for us, an authentic personal relationship with Him and His Son. It's called stepping out of the darkness and into the light of Christ. John 8:12; 1:4,5; 2 Cor 4:6; 1 Pet 2:9 My disfellowshipping was a spiritual “killing” for “apostasy”. I was told if ever I changed my mind, I would be considered for reinstatement, which is such a laughable proposition. I would be reinstated into an organization. I would not be "returning to Jehovah" because God and the organization are two different entities. Isa 46:5 One, is a practicing lie under the presence of the “man of lawlessness”. Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4 It is a "god of fortress" set up by a "king" who rules over spiritual Zion, the true Temple of God. It is a "god unknown to his ancestors", that "he will honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts." Dan 11:38 The organization is the "different" Beast, that arises to trample the anointed ones. God's chosen people have never had to face anything like it, until now. Dan 7:7; Rev 13:1,2,7 It holds authority over the "saints"...and you. If you would just open your spiritual eyes… 2 Thess 2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us— (apostles, with whom many JWs compare with the GB) whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. (1914) 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, (the anointed ones 1 Cor 3:16,17) proclaiming himself to be God. God's Temple is not "Jehovah's spiritual temple", otherwise known as the organization - that "different" Beast. It is in the hearts of the anointed ones. 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22 5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie,10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness. 2 Thess 2:1-12 Before God's people have ever suffered destruction, He revealed His message to His servants and sent them to warn His people of their pending doom. “Surely the Lord GOD does nothing, unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets” Amos 3:7 These servants were considered the one's telling the lie by the majority of the people. They were viewed as crazy, with a message of little use. Think of all the prophets God sent and the people's reactions. "They say to the seers, 'See no more visions!' and to the prophets, 'Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions.'" Isa 30:10 Revelation is a book that God reveals to His servants (the anointed ones) who care to heed it's message. Rev 3:18 It is a warning message concerning the sins of God's holy people, just as He has made known when His people fell into sin throughout the ages. Rev 1:1 Your leaders offer you a spiritual paradise of peace and security. This is their "prophetic" message. Jeremiah dealt with this same issue among Israel. "The dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. "Peace, peace", they say, when there is no peace". Jer 8:11 Look around you, can't you see there really is no peace in the organization? It cannot save you from the nations as God did for His people when they obeyed His directions. Isa 48:18 If you had eyes that were open to the sins committed by God's people you would see the lie for what it actually is. You would understand that you "serve the lie." Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 1 Thess 5:1-3 By the way, God doesn't choose the prominent ones to get His message across. He chooses the despised ones, those least expected to carry His message. 1 Cor 4:13 But, of course, those who are despised are viewed as the haughty ones, while those who are held in "high esteem", get away with murder. Gal 2:6; John 16:2-4; Matt 5:11,12; Rev 13: 11,12,15; 11:1-3,7-10 I am not surprised at what you think about me. I also am not surprised at how you value the GB who have successfully pulled the wool over your eyes. Matt 23:12
  20. They can ring it up as a cheesy roll up (they are $.99) and then add ground beef ($.59) and pico ($.35). They are cheaper than they were before, and just as yummy! But, not every Taco Bell is smart enough to do this.
  21. I was comparing them to you and your constant complaining that have shoved you out of the spot where you think you belong. Just answering.
  22. So, are you comparing the apostles to the governing body and the organization? Just asking. I agree with scripture, there is “nothing new under the sun”, except for its magnitude in the last days.
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