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… and now, as they say in Monty Python’s Flying Circus “Something completely different!”.

It sounds very reasonable, whether true or not true. If true, then there is the “problem” of say, as an example only, one might disfellowshipped for openly celebrating your childrens’ birthdays in 2026, and a week later it’s a “conscience matter. Or the blood issue, same thing. It’s macavellian to make arbitrary rules and regulation just for the purpose of intimidation and fear, but it is a common practice everywhere, and sometimes is fully justified. To consolidate power and authority and fear for a school teacher is a good thing, and always necessary. My wife is a high school math teacher, in a school system that has abandoned that. Arbitrary rules heavily enforced and the fear it creates keeps the rug rats in line …. or used to. To consolidate power and authority and fear of clerical authorities with arbitrary rules and regulations is not permitted in a religion where absolute obedience to TRUTH is what is required, and how a Congregation should be run and disciplined is given by Jesus in Matthew the 18th Chapter, and by his example. Jesus didn’t even have a small suitcase, and certainly not multi-billions of dollars in real estate, or a private Jet. Or several. i really don’t have any standing to pontificate about this, as I asked to be disfellowshipped, except on the basis of common sense… which often is not all that common.

Haha 😆. Been celebrating my birthday secretly. And for me, it's a matter of conscience --- making sure nobody gets 'stumbled'. 🥂

What’s even sadder, but strangely funny, is that your presumptuous slanders are ALWAYS wrong, although sometimes they have buzz words making them ALMOST TRUE. i feel bad sometimes, and am tempted to correct your mistakes … but it passes. I guess that’s because I am uncivilized.

We are aware that Pudgy has been disfellowshipped for a heinous and embarrassing crime. As the puppet master of Pete, he has shown himself to be an uncivilized individual. Given this situation, it is unlikely that you will receive any civilized comments on this thread. Matthew and Srecko are also his sock puppets who criticize at every opportunity. Matthew claims to be Christian, but his unchristian behavior is evident, as they attempt to insult the Watchtower with their empty boasting. I expect nothing but more uncivilized comments from other uncivilized apostates. Those other posts and statements reveal more about their mental illness than anything else. It appears to me that Pete is posing the right question to the mirror and receiving the wrong answer in return. Who are the real false witnesses here besides themselves? Therefore, in the fight between good and evil, they demonstrate to be on the losing end against God while embracing their father, Satan. What's even sadder is this fake news outlet.

I would say, until something is confirmed, it can't be considered new light out of gossip.

yeah … I have also thought about turning this dialog into a book, or a Retro TV SHOW using marionettes.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I know who I think is the fake JW.

Good grief. I am starting to think this is a prank of some sort and there will be a book released of these moronic statements. I assume GeorgealphonsoBTK is banned from JW Talk.

I read on another site that at least one Bethel insider is saying that the Governing Body is going to start allowing birthdays. They say the Watchtower hired a PR/rebranding firm and has a 10 year plan to roll back doctrine and policies to become more mainstream. They are supposedly 2 years into the 10 year plan. Birthdays next with blood to follow, becoming "conscious matters". Has anyone else heard this?

I was inspired by that Christmas song nonsense. Rather than getting involved in fruitless arguments with someone determined to disrupt and spread hate towards me and the Watchtower, I have made the choice to present the essential questions that I believe should be asked to apostates and disfellowshipped individuals. It's not worth investing time in someone who is dealing with mental illness. Now, for others that have sense enough: Proverbs 26:11-13 English Standard Version 11 Like a dog that returns to his vomit is a fool who repeats his folly. 12 Do you see a man who is wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him. 13 The sluggard says, “There is a lion in the road! There is a lion in the streets!” Will the unrepentant inherit the earth? God demands repentance from his creation. What drives people to believe they are superior and go against God with their words and actions? This behavior is damaging to the soul, leading to unrighteousness and ultimately to personal downfall. The core of this fundamental truth lies in the eternal question of good versus evil, righteousness versus unrighteousness. The distinction between becoming a bearer of truth and a dissenter of truth is crucial. How can one truly discern the path of becoming a teacher of truth rather than falling into the trap of becoming a dissenter? Biblically, there are only two paths that God has given that Christ mentioned. Matthew 7:13-14 What is the point of living a Christian life that is not in harmony with God's will? This leads us to the judgment of conscience by Christ. Those who willfully understand their own actions and behavior will be judged as unrighteous according to God's laws. Those who have not come to know God or whose lives were cut short without knowing God's laws will be given the opportunity to know God through Christ in the resurrection, but not before. There is no place on this Earth where the word of God is not being transmitted, in one form or another, by religious groups. Even in the most remote areas, indigenous people can witness the relentless efforts of Christian organizations who aim to connect with them, regardless of any objections they may have, in order to bridge cultural gaps. Before the arrival of Judgment Day, everyone will come to understand God's purpose for humanity. Ignorance of God's purpose and truth will be non-existent. By then, we will all possess this knowledge. The only distinction will be that some individuals whose lives were prematurely ended by the actions of others have been spared from experiencing it firsthand. So, what is the purpose of being a dissenter knowing what fate that awaits those individuals that cannot be changed? Romans 1:29-31 English Standard Version 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.

That's intriguing! Are there any other songs you believe that possess a Pagan essence? Does your church hymns exalt God or yourself?

“ Oh little town of Hiroshima How still we see thee lie Beneath those cold and bombed out hills The strontium clouds roll by. And in the twilight’s gleaming The bomb’s unearthly light The hopes and fears of all the years Were blown to hell tonight.” (… played by a five piece banjo band …)

This newest song by the borg has many wondering if Christmas is next to be taken off the banned list.... https://www.jw.org/en/library/music-songs/original-songs/Good-News-2024-Convention-Song/ “Glory in the heights above”— Good news for all men— When God’s Son arrived in Bethlehem. Hope for those who mourn, A Savior has been born! (CHORUS) Good news, this good news— Joy for all mankind— Praise Jah for his light! Good news, this good news— Preach with all your might. Good news, Christ is born— The way, the truth, the life. He will reign for righteousness. Peace he will provide. Jesus is the way to endless life. Truth he will defend. His Kingdom will not end. (CHORUS) Good news, this good news— Joy for all mankind— Praise Jah for his light! Good news, this good news— Preach with all your might. Good news, Christ is born— The way, the truth, the life. (CHORUS) Good news, this good news— Joy for all mankind— Praise Jah for his light! Good news, this good news— Preach with all your might. Good news, Christ is born— The way, the truth, the life

Thank you!

HahaHAHAhahaaahaa!! Ok Ok Ok Ok (wipes tears of laughter away…) here’s ANOTHER simple test you can choke on. Remember … Projection does not count! Nebulous opinions do not count. Only facts count. What false claims do I adhere to?

You consistently demonstrate yourself to be nothing more than a disciple of the devil, as evidenced by your adherence to false claims. What is the foundation of your truth, built upon such deceitful assertions? You constantly make it all about yourself, even though you are insignificant. Consequently, you surround yourself with individuals you aim to impress, whereas I focus on influencing those who possess a superior moral compass, revealing the deceitful methods employed by the opposing side.

… I await your convoluted, bizarro irrational reply.

By the way, I figure for $10,000 cash, or gun shop store credit, you can have all my interests in the JW Open Club, and JW Closed Club. I will quitclaim it to you, here. THEN, you can ban ME by just asking me to go, and I will ! A verifiable valid store credit at Greentop Sporting Goods in Ashland, Virginia will be quite acceptable.

…and the really sad part is … your agenda prevents you from telling the truth … The question has become not “Can Satan tell the Truth ?”, but “Can George88 tell the Truth ?”. So far, the answer is a documented (on this topic thread), “Never”.

It is a premeditated brazen deliberate lie.

So far, Georgie, you have not identified a single person who claims to be a Jehovah’s Witness, but isn’t .…. even after REPEATED challenges to do so. You are NEVER able to back up your obvious lies and slanders, despite SPECIFIC CHALLENGES TO DO SO. * choke * * sputter * * fizzle * * THUD ! * Obviously a vague, nebulous lie. After repeated challenges you cannot or will not provide ONE SINGLE NAME, to support your fantasy. “Additional evidence”? So far you have not presented ANY EVIDENCE! Only ONE valid specific example was asked for and you choked, obfuscated, and failed to do so. Projected fantasy is NOT PROOF !

Impressive plot twist. I'm not referring to you, Pudgy, even though your behavior now mirrors your behavior before being disfellowshipped. I'm not also talking about diehard apostates like Srecko and, Matthew. Their actions speak for themselves. The question is: Who are the impostors claiming to be Jehovah's witnesses and pretending to be active members with ulterior motives? I have already identified some, and a few new ones have emerged to spread their negativity in the open forum just like in a closed club. What additional evidence do I need to present besides the evidence I have already gathered with their behavior, and presented for the public to see? There are thousands upon thousands of posted pages to prove it. Please stop distorting my words like JWI does; it's pathetic. I have a question for them: why do they "accept apostasy," particularly when they fail to defend God? What is the point of being known as a Jehovah's Witness and acting like a Pharisee? Let me know if that makes sense to anyone. You persist in obfuscating, choking and using double standards, which ultimately holds no weight. You consistently demonstrate that the original post is correct in all aspects, particularly you Pudgy, a verified dishonest individual. So, what kind of proof do I need to offer that you won't accept as a nobody? Therefore, who cares what you think?

Thank you so much for your work. My husband and I really appreciate using the scripture printout in our preparation for the meetings

Um …. how much will you pay for my share of the Open and Closed Clubs? Probably cheaper to start your OWN clubs, right here on TheWorld NewsMedia.org. It’s probably free to create, and my guess is that you could be up and running in about 15 minutes! Just think of it! YOUR VERY OWN KINGDOM THAT YOU CONTROL! Two Clubs you could rule with an iron hand, refusing membership to people you didn’t like, and banning people who didn’t agree with you. If there was just some way you could hold their families hostage, when you banned them, or they left! Hmmmmm… And you could play with all the site control icons that give you POWER! BROUHAHAHAhahaaaa.