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  2. Wouldn't happen - too much would have to be referred to the Service Desk and the lawyers. Forget it.
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  4. The GB would only act like any big businessmen or politician. They would avoid answering questions directly or just plainly tell lies.
  5. Following on from @Srecko Sostar this management / board of directors now say that are the 'Faithful and discreet slave'. Thank you Srecko. But i lost it a bit about if they are all supposed to be of the anointed or not now. Either way it does seem a crafty move and i find it quite funny that the W/t changed their title to suit their own convenience. Board of Directors = Faithful and discreet slave, I don't think so As the Board of Directors of course, it is much easier to understand how they try to hide the pedopphilia problem and try to stop victims claiming compensation. It's big business isn't it ? They don't want their business to lose money or status. Um, Judas was the money handler wasn't he, and look what he did and how he ended up.
  6. Merge, compose, amalgam. How from secular terminology about Corporation policy and Management comes to Spiritual meaning for followers, covered with Interpretations about meaning of some Bible verses.
  7. Did God not pass that knowledge to the prophets? Did Jesus not state those secrets would be revealed? Who is God and Christ referring to? themselves! Which translation of the Bible are you using?
  8. From an Engineer's or Detective's viewpoint, that is a VERY easy question to answer. Just look at the TRACK RECORD of those who claim they have insight on the divine secrets, and tabulate how may times they have been right ... and how many times they have been wrong. I does NOT get any simpler than THAT.
  9. Here you're well-intentioned but mistaken. The objective of God is still to have sinless (perfect) humans in the earth. It started that way for however long Adam and Eve were in the Garden. Jesus sacrifice is proof of that. Therefore, in the eyes of God, nothing has changed in that regard. Now the mistake is to think that God will allow lawlessness to continue after judgment day. Therefore, God's intention is to have faithful followers that will one day revert to a sinless state. The word "perfection" is a subjective word. Then what would be the difference between the houses of worship, to be a house of prayer as Jesus indicated? Therefore, you are misunderstanding the usage of a building, when as you state, had already been used way before. Tents were used as a means for traveling nomads. However, when the nation of Israel settled, they erected a building. So, I don't see why you would have a problem with using a building as a place of worship.
  10. What is the context of that question? Can you please rephrase? And who, specifically are you addressing?
  11. When you state a lie, then who is personally judging you as you would others with that philosophy?
  12. I am not even sure how terminology, word - sin, sinless - existed in those time. Why? Because Bible reports; God see all this/that he has created was - GOOD. God has intention to have Followers? This is also terminology that was coined later. I do not know more about god's "Intentions" out of those, except what is described in the first few words of Genesis. Because people of his time mostly living in solid houses and went to churches made of stones. :))) Temple in Jerusalem was standing there for few hundreds years already. But most of HIS sermons was in open-air. He has not showed "intentions" to building churches for His "new/modified religious movement".
  13. You were doing so well until you had to add an unfounded accusation from disgruntled former Bethelites. Why can't you just stick to the truth without adding lies to the mix? Or as a normal person would put it, why cause a provocation without proof. Is it just embedded in your DNA now? Either that, show people the proof. Don't go on with the hearsay of another. Maybe, one day, Comfortmypeople will understand as well as Anna AKA how disgruntled you personally are.
  14. You know what I think would be a GREAT new feature for JW.ORG Streaming Programming? ( A rhetorical question, as I realize there are truly infinite answers ....) Have a monthly feature on JW Broadcasting, where Witnesses from all over the world, can call in live, and ask a round table of the Governing Body any questions they want to ask, and have them answered in real time, "on the air" streaming video. They could have it broadcast from the Gazebo on the shores of the Society's Lake at World Headquarters, every Wednesday after the Governing Body has their weekly coordination meeting (weather permitting ...). ...... Sort of Like Trump addressing the nation from the South Lawn of the White House, and answering reporter's questions! (weather permitting ...) Unrehearsed, Unedited, Non-scripted, truly spontaneous, and all encompassing. Things the writing staff has not addressed, since 1870. Anything at ALL! I am betting that those Brothers and Sisters that live on the other side of our rumbling, heavy planet would by the millions, without any encouragement at all, set their alarms, and get up in the middle of the night to enthusiastically catch THAT Internet Program! Those that habitually fall asleep from time to time at the Kingdom Hall, including myself, would watch with eyes frozen open ! We might even have trouble BLINKING! Over time, it would probably become more popular than original STAR TREK reruns. We might even get a Telly Award !
  15. I'm just trying to be fair, and I believe the truth is the truth and a lie is a lie no matter who says it.
  16. As @BillyTheKid46 has pointed out, the term "governing body" had already been used prior to 1971, and it was usually used in the sense that certain types of corporations used the term. In fact, for the Watchtower Society it was primarily used to refer to the "legal" leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses through the legal entity of the Society itself. This is why there was a difference in the way the term was used in the 1960's and even right up until 1970, the year before the change in meaning that the Watchtower Society gave to this term. For example, the 1970 Yearbook said very clearly: *** yb70 p. 65 1970 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses *** So really the governing body of Jehovah’s witnesses is the board of directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, all of whom are dedicated to Jehovah God and anointed by his holy spirit. Technically, then it was the 7 members of the board of directors, not merely the President and Vice-President of the Pennsylvania corporation. In 1942, the Vice President, and therefore a member of the governing body was Haydn C Covington, a Watchtower Society attorney who claimed not to be one of the anointed. (He had also only been a JW for 5 years when he became VP.) In fact, a few years later the rule was changed so that only anointed persons could be on the board of directors, and Covington had to resign his position as Vice President and that position was handed over to Frederick W Franz. After 2001, members of the board of directors no longer need to claim to be one of the anointed, and most of them since 2001 have not claimed to be of the anointed. Just a little bit of inside information on Covington is that he was a heavy drinker, and thought to be an alcoholic, and eventually dismissed and disfellowshipped after some run-ins with President Knorr. This is in the Wikipedia article, but what's not there is that just before his death he was working on a tell-all that was supposed to expose a lot of wrongdoings and embarrass Knorr and others. (I heard one Witness claim that it was supposed to "bring down the Watchtower.") The person who takes credit for talking him out of it says it was a hard-won battle and he was only convinced after a lot of begging and pleading, including more pleading from family members. Just after that incident, over the next few months in fact, he was reinstated, claimed to be of the anointed, and died. I'm not even sure he even got a chance to partake at the Memorial. But you can still find the funeral talk that Colin Quackenbush gave, posted somewhere on this forum. You can get a small sense of Covington's problems from the funeral talk, where Quackenbush almost has to apologize for giving it, but it's a good talk. Quackenbush himself was the Awake! magazine editor, who also got kicked out of Bethel after a run-in with Knorr, but who arrived back at Bethel upon Knorr's death in 1977. I should add that I don't think any of us should have a problem with an international organization of any kind having a governing body. It just means that it is organized to be guided by a committee or board instead of a "dictatorship" of one or two persons. That's a good thing. And the arrangement with GB helpers is even better, in my opinion. In addition to just mentioning the board of directors as the governing body prior to the 1971 change, it was also used as a way to refer to the entire Watch Tower Society. *** w50 8/15 p. 251 par. 8 Answering the Foes of His Government *** The Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society, with main offices in Brooklyn, New York, acts advisorily as the governing body and servant of Jehovah’s witnesses in all lands. So what is true of Jehovah’s witnesses in America must be true of them throughout the earth. *** w50 1/1 p. 10 par. 2 Reviewing the Past Year’s Work World-wide *** The Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society, the governing body of Jehovah’s witnesses, has pointed out through its publications that the kingdom of heaven was established in 1914 *** w52 9/15 p. 567 par. 7 Loyalty the Test *** After being fed and directed through the faithful legal governing body, the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, for thirty years, many said, “Jehovah is also dealing through other agencies.” Thus they could advance their own selfish interests. Of course, the Watch Tower Society, although considered to be the legal entity by which to lead and govern all Jehovah's Witnesses earth-wide, was still considered to be the near equivalent of the old council at Jerusalem where decisions were made with respect to the rules for the gentile converts, etc. Also, Paul is considered to have been included in the governing body since he told Timothy how to make appointments of overseers and servants. So this modern board of directors was considered to be something like a modern fulfillment of the council of apostles and older men at Jerusalem, and the extension of that authority as given to Paul. *** w52 5/1 pp. 281-282 God’s Way of Financing His Work *** Having received free, they gave free. Their unselfish course influenced others to show love, so that many early Christians sold all their possessions and turned over the proceeds to the governing body for them to use as they saw best for the advancement of the true worship and the benefit of the Christian community in general. So even when the governing body, technically and legally meant something else, it was still very similarly applied as an adaption of the original governing body (apostolic council) at Jerusalem. Over the years, it was tied closer and closer to the faithful and discreet slave. *** w52 11/15 p. 683 Timothy, the Youthful Minister *** Because of Timothy’s devotion to Jehovah God and Christ Jesus, the apostle Paul, under the guiding influence of the holy spirit, appointed Timothy to serve as an agent of the governing body of the Christian congregation in his day; being authorized to appoint mature men as overseers and assistants in the various Christian congregations. (1 Tim. 1:3; 3:1-15, NW) In this capacity Timothy pictured or represented the instrument that Jehovah God is using today, the Society of footstep followers of Christ Jesus, which likewise appoints servants in the Christian congregation in keeping with Jesus’ promise that he would set his faithful and discreet slave over all his belongings.—Matt. 24:45, NW.
  17. Owners of Noah’s Ark replica sue over Act of God The owner of the life-size replica of Noah’s Ark in northern Kentucky has sued its insurers for refusing to cover rain damage. Yes, rain. While the replica of the arc survived two years of monsoon-like rains in 2017 and 2018, the floods caused a landslide on its access road, and its five insurance carriers refused to cover nearly $1 million in damages. https://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Owners-of-Noah-s-Arc-replica-sue-over-Act-of-God-13892722.php
  18. Huawei Wants to Play Nice With Google and Microsoft, But Has Its 'Last Resort' Ready Huawei is an electronics powerhouse that has relied on partnerships with Google and Microsoft to help boost its global business. But the Chinese company must now face the possibility of a future without its American partners. Microsoft removed Huawei laptops from its online store on Friday, marking the latest move against Huawei after it was blacklisted on May 15 by the U.S. Department of Commerce over security concerns. A Microsoft spokesperson declined to comment. “I think Huawei’s removal from the Microsoft Store portends to the future where Huawei, already kicked out of the U.S. in phones, spreads to its very high quality PCs,” says Patrick Moorhead, principal analyst at Moor Insights & Strategy. Huawei’s existing business requires it to “rely on U.S. companies in the short and mid-term,” he added. The company also relies on several American semiconductor companies, including Qualcomm, Intel, Nvidia, and Lattice, along with British-American chip maker ARM, to supply parts to build its smartphones and laptops. Some of those chip makers have reportedly stopped supplying Huawei, but none of them have confirmed it. “It will take a decade for China to replace these capabilities,” says Moorhead. Google briefly pulled Huawei’s Android license on Sunday, but restored it on Tuesday after the Trump administration issued a temporary order to allow operations to continue for existing Huawei mobile users. Without the license, Huawei wouldn’t be able to sell smartphones with Google’s services, including Maps, Gmail, and Google Assistant, essentially forcing the company to come up with their own back-up plan or risk losing market share. Huawei laptops use Microsoft Windows, however Microsoft hasn’t commented on whether it plans to pull Huawei’s license to use Windows on future products.
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  20. En respuesta a la decisión de un tribunal de apelación ruso de confirmar la condena de seis años de prisión impuesta a Dennis Christensen, preso de conciencia y testigo de Jehová danés, Natalia Prilutskaya, investigadora de Amnistía Internacional sobre Rusia, ha declarado: “La decisión de las autoridades rusas de confirmar la condena constituye una afrenta al derecho a libertad de religión y de asociación. Las autoridades han perdido la oportunidad de anular la sombría injusticia realizada con Dennis Christensen, quien fue puesto entre rejas únicamente por ejercer su derecho a la libertad de religión y a mantener sus creencias pacíficas. Dennis Christensen debe quedar en libertad de forma inmediata e incondicional.” “Para decenas de testigos de Jehová procesados en toda Rusia por la abominable legislación antiextremista, la decisión de hoy transmite el desolador mensaje de que las represalias continuarán, y que pueden venir cosas mucho peores.” Información complementaria El 23 de mayo, el Tribunal Regional de Oryol confirmó la decisión, tomada en febrero por el Tribunal de Distrito de Zheleznodorozhny, en Oryol, de condenar a Dennis Christensen a seis años en una colonia penal por “organizar las actividades de una organización extremista”. Desde la declaración de culpabilidad de Dennis Christensen se han llevado a cabo registros en las casas de más de 115 testigos de Jehová, que dieron lugar a 74 causas penales contra testigos de Jehová en toda Rusia. Con esto, la cifra total de testigos de Jehová sometidos a investigación en el país asciende a 197. En abril de 2017, el Tribunal Supremo ruso resolvió que la organización de los Testigos de Jehová en Rusia debía prohibirse por extremista, debían detenerse sus actividades y debían confiscarse sus bienes, una decisión que Amnistía Internacional considera que viola flagrantemente el derecho a la libertad de religión.
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  21. Manuel era carpintero en una empresa estatal; lo despidieron por ser Testigo de Jehová y hoy vende escobas caminando por las calles de la ciudad de Santiago de Cuba. En una ocasión Héctor y otros tres hermanos estuvieron predicando por las lomas de Juan González cuando fueron detenidos por la policía y tuvieron que pasar un día entero encerrados en un calabozo… A los Testigos de Jehová les ha perseguido el estigma de “contrarrevolucionarios”, se les han dicho oprobios por no entender su decisión de no someterse a transfusiones de sangre, y pocos han sido tolerantes con su convicción de no cantar el himno nacional o saludar enseñas. A la pequeña Claudia le obligaron a cantar una canción dedicada a Fidel Castro, y nadie entendía por qué ella no debía hacerlo. Con ocho años de edad, solo atinó a correr tan rápido como sus delgadas piernas le permitieron. Su madre luego tuvo que ir a la escuela a explicar, y no faltaron las miradas despectivas de los profesores. Al final, todos estuvieron de acuerdo con dejar pasar esa “falta”. La vida de los Testigos de Jehová en Cuba es un largo camino de incomprensiones y maltratos, algunos dicen que de tozudez en tiempo de discriminación. Poca tolerancia encuentran, para no hablar de aceptación, en un mundo donde casi todo se define en escala de grises y un país en que las etiquetas abundan. Marilín Jiménez Bouchereau es una santiaguera de las que conoció la verdad, como dicen ellos, pero bien caro le costó ese momento por el que siente tanto orgullo. Ella y su esposo residen en la zona de Juan González, en el municipio de Guamá, un lugar donde vivir mella la cordura por estar a la merced de las irregularidades del transporte y el abasto de agua. La historia familiar de esta mujer ha estado marcada, en diferentes momentos, por el rechazo, particularmente cuando en 2012 el huracán Sandy arrancó el techo de su vivienda y no encontró el apoyo estatal que merecía por ser, ante todo, una cubana. Según estadísticas del sitio web Testigos de Jehová por todo el mundo, en Cuba existen 95 031 miembros de esta denominación cristiana, agrupados en 1503 congregaciones. El dato revela que para una población de 11 480 000 cubanos, la proporción de Testigos de Jehová es de 1 por cada 121 habitantes.
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  22. It would depend on how one would view the past, words of a pastor that was learning the ways of the truth by which the organization has refined its understanding through scripture of certain developments on earth before the invisible return of Christ to take over such obligations. Mainly the responsibility of the anointed on earth. Q852:1 QUESTION—Have we any reason for anticipating the World's conversion to Christianity before long? ANSWER—We have every reason to expect the world's conversion to Christ not many years hence, but perhaps this work will be brought about in an entirely different way and manner than is usually supposed. The Scriptures clearly foretold that the world would be far from being in harmony with the Lord and His righteous laws at the close of this present age or evil world. (Rev. 11:17,18; 2 Tim. 1:5; Mat. 24:37-39.) And that it would not be until after our Lord's second advent that all the nations would be brought to a knowledge of the truth, the way of salvation, and then converted to Christ and His rule of love and kindness. Meantime an election is taking place which when completed will result in the formation of a special class of the Lord's earnest devoted followers who when glorified and united with their Lord in the spiritual or heavenly realms will constitute the governing body, the Kings and Priests, under whose righteous administration, the nations shall all be taught of God and learn righteousness. (Isa. 26:9; Isa 54:13.) It will require all of the thousand years of Messiah's reign to subdue all unrighteousness and bring into subjection all evil and error. "For He must reign until He has placed all enemies under His feet even death the last enemy shall be destroyed." 1 Cor. 15:25,26. When the Watchtower was developed, there were specific instructions left behind, that any former Bethel member could comment on. If there is such a person here, it would be posted with vigor to the strength of knowing this process. THE WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY Was organized in the year 1884 as a means of putting forth the Message of the Kingdom in an orderly and systematic manner. The Corporation is controlled and managed by its Board of Directors and officers. The Board of Directors is composed of seven members. The Charter of the Corporation provides that the Board of Directors shall be self-perpetuating; that is to say, when a vacancy occurs by death or resignation the surviving members are empowered to fill such vacancy. Brother Russell was a member of the Board of Directors. Two [R6024 : page 391] days after his death the Board met and elected Brother A.N. Pierson as a member of the Board to fill the vacancy caused by Brother Russell's change. The seven members of the Board as now constituted are A.I. Ritchie, W.E. Van Amburgh, H.C. Rockwell, J.D. Wright, I.F. Hoskins, A.N. Pierson and J.F. Rutherford. As a matter of fact, anyone within the Watchtower organization should be well aware of it. If someone keeps silent, it's only to have the truth not to be known.
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