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    * Valentine’s Day. “St. Valentine’s Day has nothing very saintly to commend it as to its origin.”—The Golden Age, December 25, 1929, page 208. "The romantic nature of Valentine's Day may have derived during the Middle Ages, when it was believed that birds paired couples in mid-February. According to English 18th-century antiquarians Alban Butler and Francis Douce, Valentine's Day was most likely created to overpower the pagan holiday, Lupercalia. (Note the picture, another name to the worship of Nimrod) (Both Lupercus, and St Valentine) The first representation of Saint Valentine appeared in a The Nuremberg Chronicle, a great illustrated book printed in 1493. [Additional evidence that Valentine was a real person: archaeologists have unearthed a Roman catacomb and an ancient church dedicated to Saint Valentine.] Alongside a woodcut portrait of him, text states that Valentinus was a Roman priestmartyred during the reign of Claudius the Goth [Claudius II]. Since he was caught marrying Christian couples and aiding any Christians who were being persecuted under Emperor Claudius in Rome [when helping them was considered a crime], Valentinus was arrested and imprisoned. Claudius took a liking to this prisoner -- until Valentinus made a strategic error: he tried to convert the Emperor -- whereupon this priest was condemned to death. He was beaten with clubs and stoned; when that didn't do it, he was beheaded outside the Flaminian Gate [circa 269].
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    Witness. I find that your views reflect an intense desire that God’s will were done. It is easily perceived from your comments you don’t find the GB is in good standing in the eyes of God. I can understand your fear, because Jesus himself pointed out this very possibility when he mentions the evil slave, the foolish virgins, the wicked slave and others. So, the possibility exits, other way, why this waste of time talking about something hypothetical with no meaning. In spite of this, if this would happen, this is not my job to punish these brothers, to reveal against them. It would be a matter between the Master and them. I’ve identified God’s people. I belong to this people. This people has, logically, persons with authority, local (elders) and worldwide (GB). And there is scriptural base to obey these persons with Christian authority: · (Hebrews 13:17) “Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over you as those who will render an account, so that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to you.” Please, witness, take note of these ideas: · Some persons would lead the congregations · We should be obedient to them · Do always the leaders would be right? No, because they “will render an account”. This expression implies the possibility of success and error, otherwise the verse only would say “they will receive a reward” · The result if we aren’t obedient: damage! I have it clear. Our “core doctrines” as I like to say are wonderful. I’ve learnt the proper condition of dead persons and the hope of the resurrection. My neighbors believe in soul immortality and hell fire. I’ve learnt the correct relationship between Jesus and his father. Mi neighbors believe in Trinity. I believe in the future paradise. My neighbors believe God will destroy the Earth. In my country had military conscription, but the teachings of the GB (based in the Bible) helped me to be neutral. I’ve faced some surgical interventions, and based in what I’ve learnt from GB I could keep respect to God’s law regarding blood. Well, I have no time to write down a lot more of spiritual gems these brothers have helped me to discover, appreciate and live them. Now, you mention some other teachings about the time of the end, 1914, the signal and so. Well, I don’t consider these doctrines are “core” or fundamentals. Paul himself made a difference about basic or “milk” doctrines and other more “advanced.” See Witness, all teachings about the time of the end, I grant you the possibility that we, the JW, or the GB are completely wrong. But this would not change the basic and principal doctrine: to keep alert! The former Bible Students keep alert in spite of very different beliefs that we have nowadays. If, in the future, all the “time of the end” understanding is changed, perfect! I hope so! I want so! But, believe me Witness, it would not change my life in the slightest. I would continue serving God with this people, under the GB trying to keep me alert.
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    Our problem with the humility

    I have heard of situations like this. Very sad. With the kind of ambiguous information regarding what's "natural" and what's "un-natural" it can get confusing. Both you and Melinda have brought out good points. I remember the ** tp chap. 13 pp. 149-151 Your View of Sex—What Difference Does It Make? that Melinda mentioned, and I recall not really being comfortable with some of the things it brought out. We studied the book shortly after I was married. Words like "sexual greed" "Sexual appetite" "uncleanness" in the context of marriage was confusing, at least to me. Including this sentence "It is true that husband and wife have a Scriptural right to engage in sexual relations with each other. "But does this mean that they can throw off all restraint? The fact that God’s Word urges all Christians to cultivate self-control argues against such a view." I had no idea what to make of that. It conjured up images of frigidness and constraint, instead of warmth as spontaneity. I am not saying that the writer was trying to convey such a negative image, but it left things too much to interpretation. What I mean by this is that the husband and wife could each interpret this differently, and then this could be a valid reason for driving a wedge between them especially if they were not very sexually compatible in the first place (it is fact that some people like sex more than others). And then if the married couple did engage in some acts which they believed were "un-natural", or if they thought they had "thrown off all restraint", according to how they interpreted the admonition, then this could lead to a bad conscience, which is not a good situation to be in. It seems to me that too much emphasis was unnecessarily put on what happens in the bedroom in the aforementioned chapter of that book. In contrast, this admonition is so much better: How I interpreted that was that natural sexual intimacy is that which is between a husband and wife, and that kind of intimacy has no rules about kinds and limits a long as both partners treat each other with tenderness..... But like I said, I have not noticed any more said about marital intimacies to the extent that it was in the past (60's 70s' 80's) and the above WT was the first after a long time and the style is completely different. I am thinking that obviously you were not the only elder who encountered problems to do with marital intimacies among the congregation and that perhaps it was realized that these articles caused unnecessary and embarrassing situations, both for the married couple, and for the elders who were shepherding them. Why should elders be privy to what happens in a bedroom? Surely there are more important things to be concerned about...? Just out of interest, how did you counsel the couple on the shepherding visit?
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    I just read this by a Brother..... Why Jehovah's Witnesses " Do Not " participate in Valentine's Day,... See neutral news report in the newspaper Tenerife Weekly 14. Februay 2014
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    Melinda, as always, your commentaries are very welcome. Too, your words reflect good reasoning, scriptural and wise. The only issue is, in my opinion, is when we apply uncleanness to certain practices or we refer to a particular conduct as “normal.” When I’ve dealt about these matters with other people, and they ask me about reasons, or proof that some particular behavior fits into “disgraceful”, I can’t answer with my personal views, nor our literature. I need to use the Bible, only the Bible. The 1973 tp book paragraph you’ve quoted: · The inspired Bible writer did not have to explain the natural way in which the reproductive organs of husband and wife complement each other. Homosexual relations obviously cannot follow this natural way. So, male and female homosexuals employ other forms of intercourse in what the apostle refers to as “disgraceful sexual appetites” and “obscene” practices. (Romans 1:24-32) Could married couples imitate such homosexual forms of intercourse in their own marriage and still be free in God’s eyes from expressing “disgraceful sexual appetites” or “hurtful desire”? It is modified for this posterior explanation: · *** w78 2/15 pp. 30-32 Questions From Readers ***[Footnotes] Reference has been made to the apostle’s statements at Romans 1:24-27 regarding “the natural use” of male and female bodies. As is evident and has been consistently acknowledged, these statements are made in the context of homosexuality. They do not make any direct reference to sexual practices by husband and wife. It must also be acknowledged that even those love expressions that are completely normal and common between husband and wife would be “unnatural” for persons of the same sex and immoral for unmarried people. Whatever guidance these apostolic statements provide as regards sex practices within marriage, therefore, is indirect and must be viewed as only of a persuasive but not a conclusive nature, that is, not the basis for setting up hard and fast standards for judgment. At the same time there is the possibility and perhaps a likelihood that some sex practices now engaged in by husband and wife were originally practiced only by homosexuals. If this should be the case, then certainly this would give these practices at least an unsavory origin. So the matter is not one to be lightly dismissed by the conscientious Christian simply because no direct reference to married persons appears in the aforementioned texts. I see in the above quote three ideas. First. Paul’s word regarding “natural” were about having sex between one man and one woman. This was the “natural.” We should not extrapolate to some practices between a married couple. Second. A “simple” kiss between homosexuals is “unnatural” Third. When the footnote mention the possibility-likelihood that some practices were originally practiced only by homosexuals, the writer is emitting an opinion. You see, no scripture sustains this affirmation. Homosexuals also kiss and hug each other, and not for this reason should avoid the matrimonies kissing and hugging in our relationship. I’m afraid regarding this matter of “proper” sexual behavior between the matrimony is happening something similar when we refused the transplants as a form of cannibalism. We “charged” excessively the meaning of some verse, in this case, Gen 9:2-4. I reproduce next paragraphs: · *** w67 11/15 p. 702 Questions From Readers *** When Jehovah for the first time allowed humans to eat animal flesh, he explained matters this way to Noah: “A fear of you and a terror of you will continue upon every living creature of the earth and upon every flying creature of the heavens, upon everything that goes moving on the ground, and upon all the fishes of the sea. Into your hand they are now given. Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you. As in the case of green vegetation, I do give it all to you. Only flesh with its soul—its blood—you must not eat.” (Gen. 9:2-4) That allowance was made to Noah, from whom every person now alive descended. Hence, it applies to all of us. Humans were allowed by God to eat animal flesh and to sustain their human lives by taking the lives of animals, though they were not permitted to eat blood. Did this include eating human flesh, sustaining one’s life by means of the body or part of the body of another human, alive or dead? No! That would be cannibalism, a practice abhorrent to all civilized people. Jehovah clearly made a distinction between the lives of animals and the lives of humans, mankind being created in God’s image, with his qualities. (Gen. 1:27) This distinction is evident in His next words. God proceeded to show that man’s life is sacred and is not to be taken at will, as may be done with the animals to be used for food. To show disrespect for the sanctity of human life would make one liable to have his own life taken.—Gen. 9:5, 6. As we see, the writer of the article quotes Genesis with a basic idea: God allowed humans eating animal flesh. Now, the verse is “charged”: so, as no mention about eating human flesh in the verses, this is abhorrent and forbidden. But this idea, in spite all sane people agree with, is not scriptural. Thus, years later was a “discharge” of the meaning of Genesis. · *** w80 3/15 p. 31 Questions From Readers *** Some Christians might feel that taking into their bodies any tissue or body part from another human is cannibalistic. […] They might not see it as fundamentally different from consuming flesh through the mouth. Such feelings may arise from considering that God did not make specific provision for man to eat the flesh of his fellowman when he made provision for humans to eat the flesh of animals [this was our former view, the “charged verse”] […] Other sincere Christians today may feel that the Bible does not definitely rule out medical transplants of human organs. […] It may be argued, too, that organ transplants are different from cannibalism since the “donor” is not killed to supply food. […] While the Bible specifically forbids consuming blood, there is no Biblical command pointedly forbidding the taking in of other human tissue. For this reason, each individual faced with making a decision on this matter should carefully and prayerfully weigh matters and then decide conscientiously what he or she could or could not do before God. It is a matter for personal decision. (Gal. 6:5) The congregation judicial committee would not take disciplinary action if someone accepted an organ transplant. I love this kind of reasoning from the GB! I find it so humble! The Bible doesn’t directly mention this matter. The basic principle in Gen. is to eat animal flesh. Any derivation from the basic principle is up to each individual. By the way, do you find horrible eating human flesh? Me too. But if someone allows be transplanted with an organ (eating this organ as we used to say) I respect his position. In the same way, perhaps you and I share the same view regarding the proper sexual behavior in our matrimonies, and we find disgusting some practices, right. But if other married couple opine in a different way I don’t see myself with the authority to “charge” some verses to make these persons view the matters as I see. Melinda, I voted you favorably. We don’t share completely the same view, but your points are very valid and respectable!
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    The issue quoted from includes the following under the Christmas holiday heading, on page 195: In its issue of December 26, 1927, the New York World carried a full-page article on Christmas which showed beyond a doubt that the day was observed by various heathen nations for many centuries before the birth of Christ. On the same date, the Chicago Tribune, the Cincinnati Enquirer and the St. Paul Daily News carried shorter articles proving the heathen origin of the day. So did some of the larger magazines of the country. Should anyone desire to investigate the subject further, after reading this article, I would recommend a perusal of the following four books: Kitto's Illustrated Commentary; Wilkinson's Egyptians; History of Medieval Drama, by Robinson; and The Two Babylons, by Alexander Hyslop, an English clergyman. The last named book is specially interesting in its revelations, not only on the subject of Christmas, but also on other holidays and feast days now so popular. However, the actual article on Valentine's Day has no reference to any origins that go back to Nimrod (although this is used for Easter and Christmas, etc). The portion of the above post from @Bible Speaks that looks like it comes from the Golden Age (starting with "The romantic nature of Valentine's Day...") is not from the Golden Age. It's from Catholic.org as is the next section starting out "The first representation..." The quote is interrupted with a reference to Nimrod which is an allusion to the chart that apparently derived originally from "The Two Babylons." Here's the complete quote from the Golden Age regarding St. Valentine's Day, on page 208. ST. VALENTINE'S DAY has nothing very saintly to commend it as to its origin. The whole month of February was given over by the Romans to a period of almost unbridled licentiousness. One of the common practices was for a group of young men and young women to meet together. The names of the young women were placed in a box and the young men drew them as chance directed and they became partners for a day subsequently known as St. Valentine's Day. The young woman's gift for the day was a man. The gift the young woman drew might be more or less bad, mostly bad; and therefore the gifts passed out on St. Valentine's Day are often bad ones. It will be noticed that St. Valentine is supposed to be the god of love, or at least that cupids represent him. The dragging of the word "saint" into this thing is only a scheme of the Devil to make real saintliness seem like what it is not, licentiousness.
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    Organizational Accomplishments—Reaching Hearts in the Digital Age (r720p)
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    Warwick, NW Headquarters, photos

    it is also very quiet environment .....
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    Queen Esther

    Warwick, NW Headquarters, photos

    @ARchiv@L The last photo is looking, like the Bethel is very far away from the next town, thats weird I think - but very safe from the rest of the world. Its nice around full nature, a little similar the German Bethel in Selters... Maybe other Bethel - houses too ?
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    I see it more simple The Bible does not speek about the weird Valentin's day.... so its not importend for me and I not give much time for such of commercial days, the same for Xmas, etc. etc. - Satan is using many traps ! The Bible is deciding and on the 1. place, NOT always our literature. Thats my opinion and experience. Thanks for your detailed comment and time, you needed for that... our dear Brother !
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    the celebrations because of "love" had nothing to do with actuall love or agape. all celebrations included eʹros,=love between the sexes. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200002781?q=agape&p=par#h=5 (see also images above) Babylonian Deities. After the death of Nimrod, the Babylonians reasonably would have been inclined to hold him in high regard as the founder and builder and first king of their city and as the organizer of the original Babylonian Empire. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=9 Origin of Gods and Goddesses. The striking similarity readily observable when comparing the gods and goddesses of ancient peoples can hardly be attributed to chance. Concerning this, J. Garnier writes: “Not merely Egyptians, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Greeks and Romans, but also the Hindus, the Buddhists of China and of Thibet, the Goths, Anglo-Saxons, Druids, Mexicans and Peruvians, the Aborigines of Australia, and even the savages of the South Sea Islands, must have all derived their religious ideas from a common source and a common centre. Everywhere we find the most startling coincidences in rites, ceremonies, customs, traditions, and in the names and relations of their respective gods and goddesses.”—The Worship of the Dead, London, 1904, p. 3. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=6 Tradition has it that Nimrod died a violent death. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=9 ....the religions of many ancient peoples included the worship of a god placed in the role of a benefactor who dies a violent death on earth and then is restored to life. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=8 ................................................................................................................... give me some more time if I can find MORE SIMILARITIES ! thank you ............................................................................................................................ A number of scholars have linked Anahita with the Babylonian Ishtar. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=37 Grecian Deities. An examination of the gods and goddesses of ancient Greece reveals the traces of Babylonian influence. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=41 Origins The name Lupercalia was believed in antiquity to evince some connection with the Ancient Greek festival of .... ...whom the Greeks call Pan (see image above) from @Bible Speaks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupercalia
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    May we do everything possible to run the race to the finish line - so that we can enjoy all these.
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    Hi JTRJr (by the way, I've decreased your font size, your comments fill all my screen!) Direct answer 1: 0 Direct answer 2: 0 Perhaps, If we had been more humble... according the post's theme. I preffer expressions like "we arent' sure... several explanations are possible.. we need wait and see." These sound more humble. God bless the GB so they have the courage to move heaven and earth about our "time of the end" teachings.
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    Our problem with the humility

    We're all a bunch of screwballs but somehow Jehovah makes it all work. Or, as someone said, 'it's amazing what Jehovah does with what he's got to work with. But Melinda Mills is not a screwball because she could have taken offense when I chose a wrong word and did not.
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    Tuesday, February 14 2017 My ears have heard about you, but now I do see you with my eyes.—Job 42:5. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/dt/r1/lp-e/2017/2/14 Jehovah's Witnesses
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    Τετάρτη 15 Φεβρουαρίου Άνθρωπε, ποιος με διόρισε κριτή ή διαμεριστή σε εσάς;—Λουκ. 12:14. http://wol.jw.org/el/wol/dt/r11/lp-g/2017/2/15 Μάρτυρες του Ιεχωβά Wednesday, February 15 Man, who appointed me judge or arbitrator between you two?—Luke 12:14. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/dt/r1/lp-e/2017/2/15 Jehovah's Witnesses Miércoles 15 de febrero Hombre, ¿quién me nombró juez o repartidor sobre ustedes? (Luc. 12:14). http://wol.jw.org/es/wol/dt/r4/lp-s/2017/2/15 Testigos de Jehová Quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro Homem, quem me designou como juiz ou me deu o direito de repartir os bens entre vocês dois? — Luc. 12:14. http://wol.jw.org/pt/wol/dt/r5/lp-t/2017/2/15 Testemunhas de Jeová Среда, 15 февраля Человек, кто назначил меня судить вас или делить между вами? (Луки 12:14). http://wol.jw.org/ru/wol/dt/r2/lp-u/2017/2/15 Свидетели Иеговы Środa 15 lutego Człowieku, któż mnie ustanowił nad wami sędzią albo dokonującym podziału? (Łuk. 12:14). http://wol.jw.org/pl/wol/dt/r12/lp-p/2017/2/15 Świadkowie Jehowy Mercredi 15 février Homme, qui m’a établi sur vous comme juge ou comme préposé aux partages ? (Luc 12:14). http://wol.jw.org/fr/wol/dt/r30/lp-f/2017/2/15 Témoins de Jéhovah Mittwoch, 15. Februar Mensch, wer hat mich zum Richter oder Erbteiler über euch gesetzt? (Luk. 12:14) http://wol.jw.org/de/wol/dt/r10/lp-x/2017/2/15 Zeugen Jehovas Mercoledì 15 febbraio Uomo, chi mi ha costituito giudice o ripartitore su di voi? (Luca 12:14) http://wol.jw.org/it/wol/dt/r6/lp-i/2017/2/15 Testimoni di Geova woensdag 15 februari Mens, wie heeft mij tot rechter of verdeler over ulieden aangesteld? — Luk. 12:14. http://wol.jw.org/nl/wol/dt/r18/lp-o/2017/2/15 Jehovah’s Getuigen Onsdag 15 februari Människa, vem har satt mig till domare eller utskiftare över er? (Luk. 12:14) http://wol.jw.org/sv/wol/dt/r14/lp-z/2017/2/15 Jehovas vittnen 15 Şubat Çarşamba Aranızda hâkim olmam ya da miraslarınızı paylaştırmam için beni başınıza kim tayin etti? (Luka 12:14). http://wol.jw.org/tr/wol/dt/r22/lp-tk/2017/2/15 Yehova’nın Şahitleri E mërkurë, 15 shkurt O njeri, kush më caktoi mua gjykatës ose që të ndaj pasurinë tuaj?—Luka 12:14. http://wol.jw.org/sq/wol/dt/r41/lp-al/2017/2/15 Dëshmitarët e Jehovait Сряда, 15 февруари Човече, кой ме е назначил да съдя или да деля сред вас? (Лука 12:14) http://wol.jw.org/bg/wol/dt/r46/lp-bl/2017/2/15 Свидетели на Йехова Miercuri, 15 februarie Omule, cine m-a numit peste voi să judec sau să împart? (Luca 12:14) http://wol.jw.org/ro/wol/dt/r34/lp-m/2017/2/15 Martorii lui Iehova Miyerkules, Pebrero 15 Lalaki, sino ang nag-atas sa akin bilang hukom o tagapagbahagi sa inyo?—Luc. 12:14. http://wol.jw.org/tl/wol/dt/r27/lp-tg/2017/2/15 Mga Saksi ni Jehova
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    Thank you for the wonderful video - link !
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    Melinda Mills

    Our problem with the humility

    Comfort, that reply was well written and I understood the reasoning - that it could be a conscience matter. Your language was excellent - I like the way you used "charge" and "discharge". I still don't subscribe to it but I appreciate your going to lengths to explain.
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    Yes ,I agree. (Malachi 2:14) “And you say, ‘For what reason?’ It is because Jehovah has acted as a witness between you and the wife of your youth, with whom YOU have dealt treacherously, although she is your partner and your wife by covenant.” Jehovah holds the Man (Husbands) responsible for the family.
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    *** W16 8/15 page 15, pf 8. “Although the Bible does not provide specific rules about the kinds and limits of love play that might be associated with natural sexual intimacy, it mentions displays of affection. (Song of Sol. 1:2; 2:6) Christian marriage partners should treat each other with tenderness.” Hi Comfort, re the above, I appreciate your mentioning these things difficult subjects as you have successfully done before; communications on these things is necessary, so don’t give up. (It is like discussing sex with your pre-teens, unpleasant to some people but it is necessary.) However, please note this reference says “natural” sexual intimacy. I believe people should understand the Bible and the spirit behind God’s laws, as well as perceiving that the will of God is when it is not spelled out. So I beg to disagree with you here. In fact I like what was written before time and which has not been mentioned much recently. For this reason I continue to believe what I see here in “True peace and Security – How Can You Find it”. *** tp chap. 13 pp. 149-151 Your View of Sex—What Difference Does It Make? *** Wisely Avoiding All Uncleanness and Sexual Greed 17 Sexual relations plainly have a proper place in the lives of married persons. God provided this as the means by which children would be produced, and also as a source of pleasure to the parents. (Genesis 9:1; Proverbs 5:18, 19; 1 Corinthians 7:3-5) Nevertheless, he warned against abusing this gift.—Ephesians 5:5. 18 Because of the emphasis placed on sex today, many young folks find that their desire for sexual satisfaction is aroused even before they are in position to marry. As a result, some of them seek pleasure through self-stimulation of their sexual parts. This is masturbation, or self-abuse. Is it a proper or wise practice? 19 The Scriptures counsel: “Deaden, therefore, your body members that are upon the earth as respects fornication, uncleanness, sexual appetite, hurtful desire, and covetousness.” (Colossians 3:5) Is one who practices masturbation ‘deadening his body members as respects sexual appetite’? On the contrary, he is stimulating the sexual appetite. The Bible urges that one avoid the thinking and conduct that lead to such problems, replacing them with wholesome activity, and that one cultivate self-control. (Philippians 4:8; Galatians 5:22, 23) When earnest effort is put forth to do this, such self-abuse can be avoided, with benefits mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. 20 What the Bible says respecting “uncleanness, sexual appetite, hurtful desire” applies to all Christians, single and married. It is true that husband and wife have a Scriptural right to engage in sexual relations with each other. But does this mean that they can throw off all restraint? The fact that God’s Word urges all Christians to cultivate self-control argues against such a view. (2 Peter 1:5-8) The inspired Bible writer did not have to explain the natural way in which the reproductive organs of husband and wife complement each other. Homosexual relations obviously cannot follow this natural way. So, male and female homosexuals employ other forms of intercourse in what the apostle refers to as “disgraceful sexual appetites” and “obscene” practices. (Romans 1:24-32) Could married couples imitate such homosexual forms of intercourse in their own marriage and still be free in God’s eyes from expressing “disgraceful sexual appetites” or “hurtful desire”? 21 On considering what the Scriptures say, a person may realize that his former thinking on these matters was molded by those who are, as the Bible says, “past all moral sense.” But, with God’s help, one can “put on the new personality,” which is molded in accord with God’s standards of righteousness. (Ephesians 4:17-24) In this way a person shows that he truly means it when he says that he wants to do God’s will. Your View Vitally Affects Your Peace and Security 22 Applying the counsel of God’s Word as respects sexual morality is not burdensome. Contrast the fruitage of the course the Bible outlines with the world’s high rate of divorce, broken homes, delinquent children, prostitution, disease, and the violence and murders committed in connection with sexual passion. (Proverbs 7:10, 25-27) How evident the wisdom of God’s Word! When you reject worldly thinking based on selfish desire and bring your thinking into harmony with Jehovah’s counsel, your heart is greatly strengthened in right desires. Instead of fleeting pleasures of sexual immorality, you enjoy a clean conscience and enduring peace of mind. Marriage and family ties are fortified with the growth of mutual trust between marriage mates and with respect from the children. 23 And do not lose sight of the fact that your very hope of eternal life is involved. So Scriptural morality will contribute to more than your present health. (Proverbs 5:3-11) It will become part of the evidence that you truly deplore the detestable things done by people who have no regard for God and that you have been ‘marked’ for survival into God’s “new earth,” where, not immorality, but righteousness is to dwell. How vital, then, that you ‘do your utmost now to be found finally by God spotless and unblemished and in peace.’—Ezekiel 9:4-6; 2 Peter 3:11-14. Further, I think the will of God in these things can be perceived and it is not left up to the persons in their bedroom to do what they wish. Servants of God are always in God’s view and presence. I think these scriptures bear on the topic. (Ephesians 5:17) On this account stop being unreasonable, but keep perceiving what the will of Jehovah is. God’s will can be perceived when we get to know him well from studying the things he says he likes and the things he says he hates. (Proverbs 3:5, 6) Trust in Jehovah with all your heart, And do not rely on your own understanding. 6 In all your ways take notice of him, And he will make your paths straight. (Jude 7) . . .. 7 In the same manner, Sodʹom and Go•morʹrah and the cities around them also gave themselves over to gross sexual immorality and pursued unnatural fleshly desires; they are placed before us as a warning example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire. If he can see our heart and know our thinking, he surely is interested in everything we do – so nothing is out of his range. In all our ways we should take notice of what he wants us to do (bedroom included). We should like the things he likes, and hate the things he hates. Proper view would not come overnight but we can work on it as a work in progress. We will get there. For example, if we are diagnosed with a common disease such as diabetes, hypertension, etc., we don’t go along as usual if we wish a cure or have it under control, we amend our regimen, more exercise, proper diet, less salt, etc. Because we might like certain foods, that does not mean that we can’t forego them so we can have better health. God expects us to give up things that we once did that were part of this world’s darkness so as to have his friendship. On the matter of the “harm” that is done to couples who desisted from practicing them after coming into the truth, that could be said for also refusing to take blood or obedience to other Godly requirements. We took up our torture stake and agreed to suffer to be friends with God. Anyway, God says he is teaching us to benefit ourselves. ========== On the matter of the Royal Commission, this showed up a lot of deficiencies, many of which were well itemized in your post. Hope these would be handled better from now on. Recently a letter was read emphasizing that matters of child abuse should be reported to the authorities.
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    NÃO DEVERIA JESUS TER SIDO BEM ACOLHIDO E HONRADO, AO MENOS PELOS JUDEUS , QUE AGUARDAVAM O PROMETIDO MESSIAS? [ João 6:14 Quando o povo viu o sinal que ele realizou, começaram a dizer: “Este é realmente o Profeta que devia vir ao mundo.” ] Mas em vez disso, o Cristo foi “desprezado” pelos judeus, e eles ‘não o tiveram em conta’, conforme Isaías havia profetizado. (Isaías 53:3) Até o apóstolo João escreveu: “Veio ao seu próprio lar, mas os seus não o acolheram.” (João 1:11) E NOS DIAS DE HOJE , SERÁ QUE A ATITUDE DAS PESSOAS É IGUAL AOS JUDEUS NO PASSADO ? Veja este link :http://wol.jw.org/pt/wol/d/r5/lp-t/2008003#h=8:0-8:776
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    The Librarian: Jehovah has control! Soon they will pay for their part of making His people reproached for showing love and helping others learn about our wonderful Creator, Jehovah God.
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    Beards in the Congregation

    I sucked it up and carried on.
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    The Timeline of Creation ?????

    Just like to add: the water was on the earth already before the creative 'day/period' 1/one, when the earth was desolate and dark because Jehovah's spirit was moving over the waters; to me, it has always been logical that the earth had a very long cooling off period after the physical heavens and earth were created because this cooling down process was responsible for the water and dense vapor which Jehovah then subsequently divided on day 2.
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    On the way to the Kingdom Hall in Musuna, Zimbabwe Via
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    Jehovah’s Witnesses Public Talk Watchtower Study Meeting 12 February 2017 Via
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    What Does Jehovah See in Your Heart? - We Must Hate What is Bad and Love What is Good! ~ "Jehovah, he sees what the heart is.” (1 Sam 16:7) Jehovah’s purpose does not depend on the wavering loyalties of imperfect humans. In the Scriptures, the heart is often used figuratively to represent what a person is inside—his desires, his thoughts, his emotions, and his affections. So when the Bible says that God sees the heart, it means that he looks beyond outward appearances and focuses on what a person really is. To all who yearn to worship Jehovah in an acceptable way, he says: “Hate what is bad, and love what is good.” (Amos 5:15) Love and hate are strong emotions that emanate from the figurative heart. Since the heart is treacherous, we must do everything in our power to safeguard it. (Proverbs 4:23; Jeremiah 17:9) If we allow our heart to nurture wrong desires, we may find ourselves loving what is bad and hating what is good. And if we act on such desires by practicing sin, all the zeal in the world will not bring us back into God’s favor. Let us therefore pray for God’s help to “hate what is bad, and love what is good.” All glory, then, goes to God, who provides all things richly for our benefit. May we, therefore, be determined to give him our heartfelt praise forever. That will be our joyous privilege if we search for Jehovah, the Examiner of hearts. (Proverbs 10:22) "The blessing of Jehovah—that is what makes rich, and he adds no pain with it." wol.jw.org
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    Yes Jehovah loves us and the earth ? soon he will remove all wickedness and those who cause it! It will be clean! Agape Bible Speaks ???
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    God’s Permission of Suffering Nears Its End - Just Like This Picture the Earth Will Be Washed Clean! When God’s rulership replaces man’s rule, who will survive and who will not? At Proverbs 2:21, 22, we are assured: “The upright [who uphold God’s rule] are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it. As regards the wicked [who do not uphold God’s rule], they will be cut off from the very earth.” The divinely inspired psalmist sang: “Just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more . . . But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it.”—Psalm 37:10, 11, 29. A Marvelous New World Under the rulership of God’s Kingdom, survivors of the end of the present system of things will be ushered into an earth cleansed of wickedness and suffering. God-given instruction will be provided for mankind, and in time “the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea.” (Isaiah 11:9) This upbuilding, positive teaching will result in a truly peaceful, harmonious human society. Under God’s loving direction, the inhabitants of that new world will use their energies and skills in building an earth-wide paradise. Gone forever will be poverty, hunger, and homelessness, for Isaiah’s prophecy states: “They will certainly build houses and have occupancy; and they will certainly plant vineyards and eat their fruitage. They will not build and someone else have occupancy; they will not plant and someone else do the eating.” (Isaiah 65:21, 22) Indeed, “they will actually sit, each one under his vine and under his fig tree, and there will be no one making them tremble.”—Micah 4:4. The earth will respond to the loving care of God and obedient humans. We have these Scriptural assurances: “The wilderness and the waterless region will exult, and the desert plain will be joyful and blossom as the saffron. . . . In the wilderness waters will have burst out, and torrents in the desert plain.” (Isaiah 35:1, 6) “There will come to be plenty of grain on the earth; on the top of the mountains there will be an overflow.”—Psalm 72:16. jw.org IMG_6652.MOV
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    Greetings to you too and to others in Greece Dear Brothers and Sisters, here is the link to the song 53 (former 145) "Preparing to preach"
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    DOWNLOAD 2017 No.1—Sample Awake! Presentation 1 https://download-a.akamaihd.net/files/media_broadcasting/f6/mwbv_E_201702_01_r720P.mp4
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    2017 No.1—Sample Awake! Presentation 1 Via
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    DOWNLOAD Sample Teach the Truth Presentation—Eph 5:33 https://download-a.akamaihd.net/files/media_broadcasting/a7/mwbv_E_201702_02_r720P.mp4
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    Sample Teach the Truth Presentation—Eph 5:33 Via
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    Sample Origin of Life Presentation—Heb 11:1, ftn. Via
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    Anthony Morris III: Keep Perceiving Jehovah’s Will (Lev. 19:18)
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    Sing Praises in Imitation of Jesus
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    Do the Work That Jesus Did—Preach
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    Jesus “Came to Seek and to Save What Was Lost”

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