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    Here is the material for the next 2 weeks January 7-13 and January 14-20, 2019. TB Watchtower WEEK OF JANUARY 7-13, 2019.doc Watchtower WEEK OF JANUARY 7-13, 2019.pdf MEETING WORKBOOK week of January 7-13, 2019.doc MEETING WORKBOOK week of January 7-13 , 2019.pdf MEETING WORKBOOK week of January 7-13, 2019 text only.doc MEETING WORKBOOK week of January 7-13, 2019 text only.pdf CBS January 7-13, 2019.doc CBS January 7-13, 2019.pdf Additional Highlights -January 7-13, 2019.doc Additional Highlights -January 7-13, 2019.pdf Watchtower WEEK OF JANUARY 14-20, 2019.doc Watchtower WEEK OF JANUARY 14-20, 2019.pdf MEETING WORKBOOK WEEK OF JANUARY 14-20, 2019.pdf MEETING WORKBOOK WEEK OF JANUARY 14-20, 2019.doc MEETING WORKBOOK WEEK OF JANUARY 14-20, 2019 text only (2).doc MEETING WORKBOOK WEEK OF JANUARY 14-20, 2019 text only (2).pdf CBS January 14-20, 2019.pdf CBS January 14-20, 2019.doc Additional Highlights -January 14-20, 2019.doc Additional Highlights -January 14-20, 2019.pdf
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    Different topic. Stick to this one, or do a new post for it.
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    Um, offended I don't think so. I find you amusing actually. I'm happy that you read my posts though. And this is just a forum, it is not guided by Holy Spirit, so letting off steam is ok. Do tell me though how my criticism of the GB and it's JW org concerning Child Abuse has failed ? I think it is the GB that have failed to protect the congregation Earthwide. As for discussion, we don't ask you to take part in it. If you find it pointless then please don't bother us again.
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    As for your argument about perfection. Consider the other definition that is associated with Christianity, not common usage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_perfection https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/perfect-perfection/ Therefore, the word accordingly is an abstract that can be used as relative.
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    It seems something offended you. I have seen many of your other posts. I wouldn't retaliate either or be pathetic about it.
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    Then I can only say, what are you doing here? Scripture is meant for those that follow Christ, not become retaliatory to let off steam. If you have insight about scripture with a better interpretation, then, by all means, let’s hear it. This idea of criticism by you and Bultler has brought nothing but failures in understanding. We are all adults. But there is a difference between being a human grownup, and being a spiritual child that matured. Let’s get off meaningless criticism and concentrate in fundamental in Bible truth if you wish to learn. If not, then there is no need for further discussion.
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    I won't be pathetic enough (unlike some) to start calling you names or retaliate to your last comment. The scripture i quoted still stands. It is from God's word and accordingly does not appear in it. In my opinion the scriptures were written only for the Anointed to FULLY understand. Yes of course we of the earthly class can understand much of it, but not all and not fully. The TRUE Anointed obviously have a much closer relationship with God and with Jesus Christ. Hence the scripture 'ten men clinging to the skirt of a Jew', spiritual Jew of course. The Anointed But the whole point in question is, are the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses 'perfect' ? That is, perfect in the way that Jesus meant in that scripture. And the answer has to be NO. As can be seen by their actions and words. You may say it's not my place to judge, but we have to judge to know whom we should follow. I think that brings us back on topic. The GB pretending to be things they are not. 1. They cannot be Anointed 2. They cannot be the Faithful and discreet slave.
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    Teaching and inspiring, about this issue, is job for Spirit, not for me to care about. Because Word we talking about aka Bible aka God's and Jesus's teaching are not came in existence with my birth day. If you believe in Bible reports about Power of Spirit who made that people speaking various languages and in that way give testimony about God, then you can put your trust in this same Spirit. This Spirit, i suppose, is able to overcome language barriers, you talking about, because this same Spirit was causing language barriers in humankind before many centuries, according to Bible report. People run Corporations (GB run WTJWorg inc.) but I am not sure that Holy Spirit have interest to run any Human Corporation. I would rather be ready to believe how Holy Spirit wish to run human hearts. By such influence, on people's hearts .... all your doubts can be explained. :))
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    Then you cannot appreciate what scripture is actually relating to us mortals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_5:48 If you wish to bring in scriptural understanding with the old Greek Classic, versus the Koine Greek, if you have experience with linguistics, then, by all means, let’s discuss this matter through intellectual understanding. From the textus receptus, Latin Vulgate, or whatever codex you wish to use. Even the Westcott and Hort. Since Srecko failed to reply on how his wisdom is above all others, then I can only stipulate this is your idea also. Logic, as seen through the definition, brings in many afterthoughts. The word perfection is not intended as you describe it. If we do, it loses all credibility to what is intended through scripture. This is a fundamental flaw in understanding. We can only imitate perfection, not become it until after Armageddon. To an extent, you and Srecko have become what the post is.
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    Let’s ask the question. How would you go about teaching and inspiring over eight million witnesses and about twenty million interested parties? Remember, there are language barriers and scriptural interpretation to consider. Have you ever run a corporation? You place your self above all the anointed. Can you explain how Jah gave you this higher spirit?
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    Then you would agree there is a need to comprehend what is before us. Especially when it relates to definitions of particular words. This prevents us from thinking we can be perfect instead, try to imitate perfection by following in Jesus footsteps. Do you honestly believe you are perfect according to the word, perfection? Even if we comply with every instruction given by Jesus and the commandments given by Jah can we remove our sinful state? This can be illustrated by the conduct here of a failure to meet Christ standards of perfection. Ephesians 4:22-32 This is why Jah continues to give us a chance to redeem ourselves from a sinful state. Meaning as imperfect humans. Romans 5:8 What is one of the prerequisites to maintain that appearance of sinless state, if not with obedience?
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    I know this was to Srecko, but I was thinking the same thing. It's nice to have a unified message. And to answer the next part of your points, I think that this particular forum provides a answer, of sorts, to see the expected results of such an experiment. It could be chaos, but need not be. All of us can have our own opinions as long as we respect the doctrines promoted by the the Governing Body. The Governing Body would be respected for the number of years they have spent in Bible study and teaching and therefore "worthy of double honor." There are many ways to manage both personal opinions and respect the currently accepted doctrines held by the majority. One way is for all of us to try to remember to always make sure people know we are expressing our own personal opinion even if we personally have absolutely no doubt about the correctness of that opinion. Many people have already come on this forum in the last few years, presenting themselves as JWs, and all the while making sure predictions about end-time events they expected in the next few months. All of them will surely be just as wrong as everyone else has been for these last 2,000 years. And if we are just exploring an opinion we should be clear that we are anxious for others to share any clarifying, supporting, or non-supporting evidence to add to the discussion. The Governing Body should also be willing to express any current doctrine in terms of its probability according to the best evidence they have accepted, and if they are rejecting more evidence than they accept, they should explain their reasons for rejecting the majority of the known evidence. The Governing Body has already done this on several minor teachings, and I always find it refreshing. In other words, every single doctrine we have, need not be expressed as an unchangeable dogma. Everything can be expressed as a current belief based on the evidence we currently accept. There would NEVER be an embarrassment over the past, and the new level of open-mindedness would result in more input from persons who run across new evidence all over the world.
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    If you don't mind i would like to provide little reminiscence about context in comment of your's. 3 What does Jesus’ illustration about the faithful slave mean? In the past, our publications have said the following: At Pentecost of the year 33, Jesus appointed the faithful slave to care for his domestics. Since then, the slave is all anointed Christians as a group who live on earth at any one time. The domestics are these anointed ones as individuals. In 1919, Jesus appointed the faithful slave “over all his belongings,” everything on earth that is used to support the Kingdom preaching work. But after carefully studying this subject, praying about it, and meditating on it, we realized that our understanding of Jesus’ words about the faithful and discreet slave needs to be changed. (Proverbs 4:18) Let us discuss the illustration and how it affects us, whether we have the hope of living in heaven or on earth. source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/402013533 Right from the start, it is very important to note what the GB says about how (process) the interpretation of the Jesus words/text has changed. They give this explanation: "But after carefully studying this subject, praying about it, and meditating on it." As we clearly see here, there is no single word about influence by Holy Spirit.They not used phrases as "we have been guided by HS" ,or "we have been motivated by HS" and because influence from God's Spirit we made this (small, big, important, not important) changes. They just done 3 things that every average and responsible JW member (or even JW kid) doing every day. What is it? A) carefully study Bible, B) pray about, and C) meditate. !!!! NOTHING more or less! But it seems how only GB is authorized to change understanding, globally, for all 8 mil JW members. According to WT credo, single JW is not authorized to change own understanding in this very same process that was described in WT magazine and other places in publications. If JW rank and file member dare to change established and official understanding of some GB doctrines, then he/she will be given a lesson and correction, rebuke or discipline. Confession and repentance are expected, or, he/she coming to be an apostate and dangerous individual in spiritual paradise. But when GB doing the same thing, no one of them have to show the humility of this kind. No one is above them to "rebuke" their inappropriate behavior. GB expressed false humility by word "we", but "we" almost always have one meaning - all JW community ... ... and GB pushing COLLECTIVE FEEL OF GUILT FOR ALL WRONG EXPECTATIONS and WRONG INTERPRETATIONS. Now, back to the FDS of Mathew. “IF EVER THAT EVIL SLAVE . . .” Jesus has given the faithful and discreet slave an extremely important responsibility. He has appointed this slave to care for the domestics and to give out spiritual food at the right time. Jesus said that those with greater responsibility have more expected of them. (Luke 12:48) So he ended his illustration about the faithful and discreet slave with a serious warning. Jesus warned about an evil slave who believes that the master is taking too long to return and who starts to beat the other slaves. When the master arrives, he will punish that slave in a very severe way.—Read Matthew 24:48-51. Was Jesus foretelling that there would be an evil slave class in the last days? No. It is true that some individuals have shown an attitude similar to that of the evil slave described by Jesus. We would call them apostates, whether they were of the anointed or of the “great crowd.” (Revelation 7:9) But these ones are not an evil slave class. Jesus did not say that he would appoint an evil slave. His words here are actually a warning given to the faithful and discreet slave. Notice that Jesus begins the warning by saying “if ever.” These words show that what Jesus next described would not necessarily happen. It was as if Jesus was saying: ‘If the faithful and discreet slave were ever to treat the other slaves cruelly in these ways, the master would punish him severely.’ (See also Luke 12:45.) But the faithful and discreet slave as a group has continued to stay alert and to give out spiritual food of good quality. The anointed brothers who make up the faithful slave realize that their Master expects them to take good care of his domestics. These anointed brothers sincerely desire to care for their responsibility loyally so that when the Master finally arrives, he might say to them “well done.” By this explanation GB class say: In today WTJWorg organization there is no evil slave class. Only some individuals outside of GB class members, will show an attitude similar to evil person slave. Well now, what are the Jesus words? Imagination, fantasy, parable, illustration, prophecy, good night story, moral lesson, reality in 1 century, reality for all centuries in future time, impossibly thing to ever happen, exemption only in some rare situations, ...? "...logical fallback position - from a human standpoint at least." Of course, human standpoint is only one we have always with us every day, after all :))) And beside plan a, it is also good to have b,c,d... But in that way of functioning we recognize and confess how points A) carefully study Bible, B) pray about, and C) meditate is mere human process with rarely moments of Inspiration (on single personal level) that come Above. In GB class case that rare moments of (private level or class level) Inspiration from Above not coming on them at all, because they loudly claiming; "We are not inspired!" To recall again on what WT magazine has wrote; as individuals, GB members are not FDS, as group who sitting together in one room they are FDS. Resume of such WT quotes/statements can be this: 1) as Private Person GB member is as every average JW who have no influence on Organization Moves. 2) as Collective Class GB members are doing the same thing with same result as every average JW member with one exception. And that is siting, reading, praying and meditate and making decisions where and how Organization will go . In both case outcome is the same -- "uninspired" decisions. I personally would not say how some sort of Inspiration from Above never came on me (in what ever issue). But, such personal feelings is in sphere of own interpretations/speculations what is/was happening. So, it can be true and/or false/illusive. Or some sort of mixed, unknown definition about what we going/went through. And would I made that as credo, doctrine that have to be reality for other people and their lives, about how Bible text come to fulfillment in my/their life?
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    I understand, especially since the GB has tainted everything about Christ’s Truth. 1 John 4:1 - "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see if they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world." The anointed are compared to trees and their “fruit”, or teachings - “Be on your guard against false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravaging wolves. 16 You’ll recognize them by their fruit. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes or figs from thistles?17 In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, but a bad tree produces bad fruit. 18 A good tree can’t produce bad fruit; neither can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19 Every tree that doesn’t produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So you’ll recognize them by their fruit. Matt 7:15-20 It takes effort on our part, to find the good trees. With God’s Holy Spirit, we will be able to discern “good fruit” from the “bad fruit”. You are already on your way to doing just that. Pearl Doxsey has a “Personal File”. At the bottom of that page, she describes her anointing experience. pearl - personalfile . blogspot . com
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    Thank you so very much really appreciate what you do, May JEHOVAH bless you. have an bless and safe week.
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    Ma in italiano non si può avere? Grazie sarei molto grato.
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    Thank you so much and enjoy the rest of your week!!!🌺☺️🙏☺️🌺
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    So you are esentally saying that every Witness should be able to preach their own ideas to other Witnesses, and out on the ministry. How do you envisage that in practice? I mean give us an example of how this would operate.
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    I don’t ‘like’ @JW Insider‘s comments too much because he usually manages to slip in a bit of mischief that I’m not too sure about, even if I don’t immediately spot it, so I don’t want to leave a track record as an ally. Having said that, Man! is he ever making good sense here...and the patience displayed...the angel on my right shoulder is saying: ‘Why can’t you be like that, TrueTom?’
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    I noticed 46 "shares" of this comment, Srecko. Seems to me that people are recognizing GB's hypocrisy enough to pass it on.
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    GB famous phrases are: "we are not inspired but we are guided, motivated"... and... with self invented/claims: "JHVH trusts us, Jesus trust us".....they ask YOU to trust THEM. And JW members, in general, not see trap and snare by what GB try to enslave human minds. 2. (a) Who is “the faithful and discreet slave,” or “the faithful steward”? (b) How has the slave established a fine record of “following the Lamb”? 2 What can be said about the anointed Christians in modern times? In his prophecy about “the sign of [his] presence and of the conclusion of the system of things,” Jesus referred to the composite body of his spirit-anointed followers on earth as “the faithful and discreet slave,” or “the faithful steward.” (Matt. 24:3, 45; Luke 12:42) As a group, the slave class has established an excellent record of “following the Lamb no matter where he goes.” (Read Revelation 14:4, 5.) Its members remain virgins in a spiritual sense by not defiling themselves with the beliefs and practices of “Babylon the Great,” the world empire of false religion. (Rev. 17:5) No doctrinal falsehood is “found in their mouths,” and they remain “without blemish” from Satan’s world. (John 15:19) In the future, the remaining anointed ones on earth “will follow” the Lamb right into heaven.—John 13:36. 3. Why is it important for us to trust the slave class? 3 Jesus has appointed the faithful and discreet slave “over his domestics,” that is, the individual members of the slave class, “to give them their food at the proper time.” He has also appointed the slave “over all his belongings.” (Matt. 24:45-47) These “belongings” include the growing “great crowd” of “other sheep.” (Rev. 7:9; John 10:16) Should not individual members of the anointed and the “other sheep” trust the slave appointed over them? There are many reasons why the slave class deserves our trust. Two outstanding reasons are: (1) Jehovah trusts the slave class. (2) Jesus also trusts the slave. Let us examine the evidence that both Jehovah God and Jesus Christ have complete confidence in the faithful and discreet slave. 5. What shows that God’s spirit is empowering the slave class? 5 Jehovah also blesses the slave class with his holy spirit. While Jehovah’s spirit is invisible, what it produces in those upon whom it operates is not. Think of what the faithful and discreet slave has been able to accomplish in giving a worldwide witness about Jehovah God, his Son, and the Kingdom. Jehovah’s worshippers are actively proclaiming the Kingdom message in over 230 lands and island groups. Does that not give undeniable evidence that God’s spirit is empowering the slave? (Read Acts 1:8.) In providing timely spiritual food for Jehovah’s people the world over, the slave class must make vital decisions. In making them and putting them into effect, the slave exhibits love, mildness, and other aspects of the spirit’s fruitage.—Gal. 5:22, 23. source; https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2009123#h=7 Now we have some work (read Critical Thinking, not criticism :))) ) to do about claims in paragraphs. First, if you, as JW and student, regularly reading this sort of spiritual foods, you already noticed that many important doctrinal changes are occurred since 2009 and this Study Material in your congregation. For example: 1) "Jesus referred to the composite body of his spirit-anointed followers on earth as “the faithful and discreet slave,” or “the faithful steward.” NOT "TRUTH" ANY MORE 2) "He has also appointed the slave “over all his belongings.” NOT "TRUTH" ANY MORE When Author of WT article described FDS by said: "No doctrinal falsehood is “found in their mouths,” then he made false statement despite, must to have knowledge, about previous changes on doctrines and interpretations. But most of all, it is of crucial importance to readers of such articles to recognize and see what falsehood and manipulation coming from magazine's Writing Department (The original text is prepared in English. The Governing Body oversees the activity of the Writing Department at our world headquarters. This department coordinates the assignments of the writers who serve at headquarters and at certain branch offices. Having a diversified writing staff allows us to address multicultural subjects that give our publications an international appeal. (source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102012164 ) How can be said, without any shame, that there is no "doctrinal falsehood" in FDS aka GB mouths, when they changes teachings on a regular basis? 3) "Jehovah also blesses the slave class with his holy spirit". QUESTIONABLE IDEA 4) "While Jehovah’s spirit is invisible, what it produces in those upon whom it operates is not." QUESTIONABLE IDEA 5) "Does that not give undeniable evidence that God’s spirit is empowering the slave?" QUESTIONABLE IDEA What makes points 3,4, and 5 as questionable idea? Few times GB and some of those before them, FDS composite, made clear statement how they are NOT INSPIRED (not always negate this possibility, but recently they did it in clear and sound words). About what they are not inspired? They explained: 1. GB are not inspired 2. WT publications are not inspired. So, .... in one moment they CLAIM how they have Blesses, Produces, Empowering with -God's Spirit- in sharing spiritual food, doctrines, teachings, instructions, global work, but ... in another moment they DENIED how they are Inspired by this same -God's Spirit-? 6) Two outstanding reasons are: (1) Jehovah trusts the slave class. (2) Jesus also trusts the slave. Really ? :)))) Self-praise and self-deceiving.... with clear intention to deceive you. THINK about! Who have REASON (reasoning and sound mind) TO PUBLICLY CLAIM how JHVH and Jesus TRUST ME/US/THEM ??!! DO You ever say in comment on meetings, from platform in public talk, in preaching service to people THAT God and Jesus TRUST YOU/ME, so you have to trust all words I told you. Well please, who speaking "falsehood" to whom? :))))




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