Jump to content

Leaderboard


Popular Content

Showing content with the highest reputation on 03/02/2019 in all areas

  1. 2 points
    In general, yes all apostates are damaged goods. But that doesn’t mean they don’t have sympathetic believers from within. Those apostates are worse. Meantime, there is a huge difference between corruption and incompetence New International Frontiers in Child Sexual Abuse 2019 “Sexual Abuse by Adolescent Peers In the UK, a report by the House of Commons Women and Equalities Select Committee (WESC) found endemic sexual violence against girls in schools. The WESC Report reinforced earlier research by the BBC in 2015, which found that in a 3-year period to July 2015, there were 5500 sexual offences on school grounds reported to police, including 600 rapes. The government’s failure to respond a year after receiving the WESC report led to calls for the Secretary of the Department for Education to be charged with breach of statutory duty under the Equality Act s. 149, which requires her to have due regard for the need to eliminate discrimination against girls in school and to advance equality of opportunity. These reported offences of course represent a mere fraction of the true incidence: a 2010 YouGov poll of 16- to 18-year-olds found that one third of all girls experienced unwanted sexual touching at school (Okolosie 2016; Weale 2017). This is another example of, governmental hypocrisy of once again, pressuring social justice unto religions while not holding their own accountable until they are exposed like in the UK. The same hypocrisy from Canada and Australia. All awhile opposers and ex-witnesses remain silent. Do what we tell you, but don’t do what we do. Matthew 23:3 Therefore the only puppets are those that play into the devil hands.
  2. 2 points
    I have noticed talking to many people about "HELL" that they have a desperate need to believe in it, perhaps if only to get mad and condemn you to Hell if you don't agree with what they believe. Wouldn't it be a hoot if there actually is a burning hell of torment where you will be tortured forever and ever ... BUT ... ONLY if you believe there is one? Otherwise I believe all these "experiences" are all just lucid dreams partially due to oxygen starvation.
  3. 1 point
    This. This is one of the things I have seen time and time again. There are those of the former faith that will speak up against disgruntled ones who have gone off unhinged in action, and their conquest to be aggressive increasingly i.e. anywhere there is a person of that faith community they purposely go after them relentlessly, even if said person is doing personal things. It tends to go off the rails even further when former ones actually side with their former faith to speak against apostasy, and in doing so, these persons are shamed and or hunted down in the social space, even in public. Apparently, they care not for who you are or your background because of whom you follow and or what you represent, they feel that attacking is an obligation, they seek to provoke and when or should the provoked do something, the provoker will use that as means to take action and so forth, which is also another problem. Indeed. The UK also has grooming gangs whereas some know of it's existence, but does not speak of it nor care of it. For me, I to not agree with a lot of what Tommy Robinson has said and or stand for, however, he made this known and the UK government arrested him for it some months back. It would seem that child pedophilia, when it comes to disgruntled ones, they, the way I see it sometimes, using it as a front to go after those that do not like. The focus should be on abuse taking place everywhere, but not a sole group alone. Another problem is that such sparks vigilantism whereas at some cases, the one who seeks the abuser, or the abuser, or victim succumb to further harm and or problems. That being said, it is a mixed bag altogether, reasons why many tend to educate, for it is a great tool and or, in this sense, weapon, to use in this mater, be it to prevent a form of abuse and or to deal with a situation if someone is abused, so one wouldn't be left in the dark on what actions to take. But alas, it is a very very cruel world out there, I would say you think wildfire that is pedophilia, let the people bear witness of what is coming very soon in regards to a specific community.
  4. 1 point
    There is no reason to compare the Watchtower with the world. There is, however, a reason to compare the hypocrisy of opposers and ex-witnesses that have a double standard to distort the facts about the watchtower and the world. Criticize the Watchtower, stay silent with the world. Therefore, it’s opposers that are missing the point. They can’t see beyond their personal hatred and vendetta.
  5. 1 point
    LNN

    Bluetooth or WiFi? Which is faster?

    This is what I've found: Wi-Fi will provide you with the fastest connection, and a more reliable one than Bluetooth. That being said, it will be the biggest battery suck of the three available options, especially when you're tethering more than one device. Bluetooth tethering You'd only want to use Bluetooth tethering when you want to conserve battery on the device with the connection (iPhone or cellular iPad). It's fairly slow, and you'll only be able to connect one device at a time. All that and, unless you have an older iPhone or iPad, Bluetooth tethering is fairly superfluous. If you're in a pinch, though, it'll do.
  6. 1 point
    Keep playing that same old record to yourself Kid, you might convince yourself one day. Who was the member of the GB that said 'It's all Apostate lies' Well Kid you are doing just the same. You are just a puppet to the GB and it's Org. But if that keeps you happy so be it.
  7. 1 point
    I think this assessment is not necessarily genuine. While there might be an instance where elders take it upon themselves to resolve sensitive issues, it doesn’t mean they are corrupt. It doesn’t mean as opposers suggest that there are times when elders look the other way, or that they favor the accused because of friendship. That kind of bold statement needs personal proof from an individual. Not something, written on the internet. However, I will agree with the leading pro-counsel for the Watchtower in such cases, Elders “screw-up” because they don’t contact the legal department. Hence, a response from Mario Moreno. I think we have seen his name pop up at times. 1. It is reported to the Watchtower Society. The policy continues: "However, even if the elders cannot take congregational action, they are expected to report the allegation to the branch office of Jehovah's Witnesses in their country, if local privacy laws permit." Opposers criticize the fact that the Watchtower Society stresses the importance of reporting the allegations to the headquarters. But there is a very good reason why. They want to make sure that each case is handled correctly. They want to make sure that the body of elders do not disregard their policy and thus cause problems for all involved. As Watchtower attorney Mario Moreno bluntly put it: "Once in a while, in a small minority cases, elders screw up. They screw up because they don't call here (the Watch Tower legal department). When they call here, they don't screw up." Really, can you imagine the criticism that would be heaped upon the Society if they said please do not call Bethel in cases of child molesting? Elders should handle it themselves. Therefore in general and in most known cases, the Elders have screwed up. Nothing to do with corruption as indicated. That shows more in the inability by the Elders to understand their local laws and the Watchtower guidelines that each local, state, federal, and the country is given by the Watchtower. Does this mean a .0001% of those claims didn’t show some kind of bias? Perhaps, but most Elders uphold God’s law in as much as Caesar's law. Another area I will agree with, that not everyone calling themselves JW’s are actually JW’s. They are in name only. It’s pretty much apparent here with some. There are so many areas where the public is still being misled here by the many assumptions, by JW’s in name only. 2. If there is a mandatory reporting law it is reported to the authorities. Continuing with the policy: "In addition to making a report to the branch office, the elders may be required by law to report even uncorroborated or unsubstantiated allegations to the authorities. If so, we expect the elders to comply." If their is a mandatory reporting law it is reported to the authorities regardless of the age of the victim or whether the allegations are true or not. 3. If a child is in possible danger it is reported to the authorities. A 1988 letter states: "There is a duty to report when one has reasonable and probable grounds to believe that there is abuse or a substantial risk of abuse and parents have failed to protect the child." 6. All in the congregation have a responsibility to report it to the authorities. A 1992 letter states: "As members or the community in which Caesar still acts as God's minister and hence still has a certain authority, ALL in the Christian congregation would want to consider their personal and moral responsibility to alert the appropriate authorities in cases where there has been committed or there exists a risk that there might be committed a serious criminal offence of this type (see ks91, page 138) In child abuse cases such authorities might include the family doctor, the Social Services, the NSPCC, or the police." The child abuse policy of Jehovah's Witnesses states: "If the accused denies the charge, the two elders may arrange for him and the victim to restate their position in each other's presence, with elders also there." Does this mean that young children who accuse someone of molesting them will have to meet with the accused face to face? That is what many opposers of Jehovah's Witnesses will tell you. One such opposer had this to say: "...yes JWs believe in having a 8 yr old little girl, her parents, two elder and the person in the same room as the little child describes how a 45yr old man... No, opposers are knowingly or unknowingly leaving out detailed information that has appeared in the Watchtower and that has been sent to elders as to how to handle this situation when the accuser is a CHILD or if the accuser does not wish to face the one they are accusing. Would you like to see the real policy of Jehovah's Witnesses and not the invented policy of opposers like the one quoted above? First off, the Nov 1, 1995 Watchtower states of ADULTS who accuse someone of molesting them when they were a child: "If the accuser is not emotionally able to do this face-to-face, it can be done by telephone or perhaps by writing a letter." As we see then, no face to face meeting is necessary even if the accuser is an adult. But what about a child who makes an accusation? December 1, 2000 letter to elders states quite clearly: "If the complainant is a CHILD, the elder might offer to accompany him or her to discuss the situation with a parent (but not the alleged abuser) or to one of the above authorities. A child should not be placed under pressure to take such action,..." Did you notice the phrase in parenthesis, 'not the alleged abuser'? Further proof that Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe that a child should be made or coerced to confront the accused molester face to face. Well let us take you way back to 1962. The November 15 Watchtower from that year on page 693 clearly stated: "9 Worldly authorities render a judgment and punish persons, whether they are inside the congregation or outside, if they violate the laws of decency and good order. The violators have no right to complain at such punishment, as Paul showed by his words before Caesar’s judgment seat. (Acts 25:11) Hence the Christian congregation cannot protect any of its members if they steal, smuggle, commit bigamy, murder, libel, defraud, and so forth. The congregation must release such guilty members to punishment by worldly authorities. Since the guilty break the laws of the land and thus oppose the “authority,” they are taking a stand against God’s arrangement. To sensible people, it boils down to credibility. What they are willing to accept from distorted views on the internet, or see the truth for what it is. Therefore, it’s not about defending the Watchtower, the GB, or Elders, its about showing those areas that opposers and JW’s in name only are distorting with the FACTS. Anyone who is guilty of child abuse in any form should be exposed for the heinous crime. The Watchtower has never stood in the way to have a member exposed and sentenced for their criminal involvement. James 4:7, John 8:32
  8. 1 point
  9. 1 point
  10. 1 point
    admin

    JW Dress Rules

    @Equivocation Please refrain from further instigation. If you want such a conversation please PM each other. Not on a public thread. @JOHN BUTLER Please PM people back. You should know by now to start a new topic or hold your conversations on someone's wall rather than go so way off topic
  11. 1 point
    « Dieu est un Dieu, non pas de désordre, mais de paix » (1 COR. 14:33). Dieu-est-un-Dieu-non-pas-de-desordre-mais-de-paix-1-COR-14-33-FLUVORE.mp4
  12. 1 point
  13. 1 point
    It is not a rule: km Sep 77: A judicial committee need not be limited to three members. The Scriptures do not give any specific number of older men who handled cases of wrongdoing in the early Christian congregation. Older men who served in the community during Israel’s history may have heard cases according to their availability at the city gate. For example, Boaz selected ten of the older men of the city to hear the matter he had to present. (Ruth 4:1, 2) However, everyone in the community was under the Law covenant arrangement then, and this added to the number for whom the older men were responsible. Within each congregation today, the number would not be that great in most cases, so three would usually be sufficient to have on a judicial committee. Where the gravity of what is involved warrants having four or even five experienced men to serve, this may be arranged.
  14. 1 point
    @Anna The situation I was telling you about happened over ten years ago and has affected my life ever since. I left the JW Org last year and you know why...... So, I was leaving that matter with God, as i had left many other matters with God. But when the size of the Child Abuse problem became known to me, then I decided that this cannot be God's true organisation. You are saying yourself how bad many Elders are. The GB / Org has made it easily possible for Elders to dictate the complete running of a congregation, as you seem to have said above. THe GB / Org has given Elders the right to choose what they will believe and what they will call lies. THe GB / Org has allowed a situation whereby not all Elders in a congregation are made aware of situations, such as the situation I have mentioned. The two witness rule can squash many things before they are even investigated properly. It also seems that the GB /org has given Elders the right to destroy written evidence of cases/situations. Is it any wonder why brothers and sisters take each other to the courts of the outside authorities ? You yourself have said many Elders cannot be trusted. Your words "corruption, favouritism and nepotism by elders". And with all the above being true, then how can God look with favour on such a wicked organisation ? Remember Jesus called people wicked. So to call the Org wicked is not sin. Finally, i think you, Tom and others should get it into your heads that A PERSON CAN LEAVE THE JW ORG BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY HAVE LEFT GOD OR JESUS CHRIST. So your question of " Or have you lost trust in Jehovah too? " has no meaning to me. I rarely call God by that name anymore, as I'm still happy with Yahweh or Almighty God and i pray through Jesus christ as God's word says we should.
  15. 1 point
    Reminds me of when I was a younger man and had a full head of hair (sigh .... ) the time I stood next to a sheet rock wall in my home, and did an experiment with a balloon about that size ... I vigerously rubbed the balloon in my hair, until the hair on my head, and the balloon accumulated a charge of static electricity, making my hair stand straight out. The balloon popped, and my head got stuck to the wall.
  16. 1 point
    TrueTomHarley

    JW Dress Rules

    This Winnie the Pooh business is not playing well in China:
  17. 0 points
  18. 0 points
    I have known MANY elders whose children have "left the Truth", because their fathers paid more attention to congregational matters than their own children. There is such a thing as "theocratic" burnout. And that fire has an insatiable hunger.




×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Service Confirmation Terms of Use Privacy Policy Guidelines We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.