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  1. “Is it still a God dishonoring sin to eat turkey on Thanksgiving day?” From the turkey’s standpoint, yes.
    3 points
  2. Some songs are worth repeating over and over. Those that they are intended for, may actually hear the lyrics.
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  3. I am just seeing this now. Q Anon is an Extreme Far Right collective with an ideology that spawned alleged conspiracy theories. It was an idea started by a collective in 2016 into early 2017 due to the pedophilia rings intertwined with politics, it never started with one person, but as a group of people under the same name - "Q", however in 2017, it was eventually affiliated with a single person - Q Clearance Patriot, which is why some believe it began with one person. It is not a belief, but it is among their theories, they have a strong hatred against pedophilia within the Establishment
    3 points
  4. I know my presence here is intolerable to JWs. Many times, I have thought of leaving and never returning. (Matt 10:14) Although, I do appreciate those who visit this forum and believe in the words of Christ over the words of men. (John 8:31; 2 Tim 4:3) I admit also that I have noticed fleeting remarks made by you and a few other JWs, who have expressed some empathy for those not in the organization. But this thought conflicts with your teachings, that only those faithful to the organization, will “live forever”. (Exod 23:13,24,32; Isa 57:13; Rev 13:1,2,4 ) It must create a personal str
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  5. Here is the Material for November 23-29 and November 30–December 6, 2020. TB Sorry for the lateness of the post, but we have some family issues that happened yesterday. My dad's heart (95 1/2) is just giving out and he is not doing very well and was taken to the hospital. and because of COVID, we can't be with him. Can not wait for the new world!!!!!!!!!! Additional Highlights -November 30–December 6, 2020.pdf Additional Highlights -November 30–December 6, 2020.doc Watchtower November 30, 2020–December 6, 2020.pdf Watchtower November 30, 2020–December 6, 2020.doc MEETING WORKBO
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  6. My neighbor made an interesting comment about her husband. She said, regarding his below par choice of foods, that he still looks fit and strong; I suppose you could say he has a strong muscular “core”, but this will not guarantee a healthy life if he doesn’t eat right. That was her point. Healthy spiritual food, sets in place one’s spiritual “foundation”. We build on it from there. Don’t you see that not only did Luccioni compare Jesus with the GB, but he is excusing the GB’s failures while at the same time, it is said that Jesus and God guides their decisions through Holy Spirit?
    2 points
  7. Luccioni is comparing the GB to Jesus and to his apostles. He says that many found Jesus' words to hard to bear. Jesus, the Son of God, the King, is being compared to men who utter false prophesies. When will blasphemy come to end, from this organization. He states faith and a spiritual "core" is needed in God's word, and also in the 'WORD" of the GB. Really. He says, it is the wicked ones who cannot take hold of the following burdens. Let me quote this man: “TODAY WICKED MEN AND IMPOSTERS USE EXACTLY THE SAME TECHNIQUES. AND ITS’ ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. THEY USE
    2 points
  8. @Anna tries very hard to twist things. She is a well trained JW to be sure. I quote her The only message I know of is the message of the Good News and salvation for all those who want to live under God's Kingdom. However she deliberately 'forgets' to mention that the 'message' also says 'You have to be a baptised JW to be saved' and that Armageddon is so so so close that you must get into the Org NOW. Ignoring the fact that JWs have been saying this for around 100 years. And that the baptism is not 'In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit' as Jesus words
    2 points
  9. The Lord’s supper is the term used to describe an arrangement that Jesus instituted on the night of his betrayal. In brief, it consists of a Scriptural discussion, the giving of thanks and the partaking of bread and wine. Some refer to it as the Eucharist, because of Jesus’ “giving thanks” on that occasion. It is also referred to as the Communion and the Mass. Doubtless, the most fitting of all names for it is “the Lord’s evening meal.”—1 Cor. 11:20. -
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  10. Yes. “While they were listening to these things, he told another illustration, because he was near Jerusalem and they thought that the Kingdom of God was going to appear instantly.” Luke 19:11 No. Unrepentant wrongdoers would be expelled, as happens today. Yes. “As they traveled on through the cities, they would deliver to them for observance the decrees that had been decided on by the apostles and the elders who were in Jerusalem.” Acts 16:4
    2 points
  11. - strong core - 2 tim 3 14,15 .... from whom he learned teaching - wicked man and impostors would twist Jesus words - generation teachings - constantly repackage Jesus teachings - spiritual foundational muscles - dogmatic statements we made in past - - etc. etc RL speaking about wicked man and impostors that would twist Jesus words. What was Jesus' words about, for example, "generation"?? Only what we can read in Gospels. Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. Mat 24:34 And He stopped at that point! Who
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  12. I would not say something like that, of course and for sure ...., and you are neither forecaster nor prophet able to know what i will say next :))
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  13. I didn't bother to read @TrueTomHarley book promoting rubbish above, as he just loves to try to be funny and/or make excuses for his failed American Governing Body. It is such a shame that they are all American or American influenced. They have become 'big headed' and obviously do not have God's or Christ's approval. A couple of quotes for dear Tom. It’s called getting the overall picture and not just zeroing in on what you want to see. OK, so lets enlarge on that one Tom. Overall picture of the Org' from it's beginning shows that the Org and it's Leaders have been putting dat
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  14. Seems certain people will soon claim that JWs started the pandemic. Christians were blamed also for the fire of Rome. Seems it will soon get to things like that. We seem to be going back to the Dark Ages.
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  15. I suspect they would still be allowed the opportunity to pay taxes. She's not thinking it through if she really thinks that voting is "buying" the governments services. Most people think they are buying representation by paying taxes and they therefore vote as a way to try to manipulate the government to have the best chance of representing their own interests in how that tax money is spent. Yet, here we have a group of people who pay taxes but are not clamoring for special favors that one party offers over another. Also, having only partisan people among your government workers results i
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  16. Such a flippant remark, as if God doesn't hear; especially when HE stated: "But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.: Deut 18:20,22 After their long lineage of failed prophesy, they didn’t stop with 1975. These are prophesies as well: 1989 "The apostle Paul was spearhea
    2 points
  17. It is you jehovahs witnesses who are calling Jehovah and Jesus liars, since your doctrines flip flop constantly. Your accusing jehovah of not knowing what he is talking about and thus needs to change a 180 on a doctrine or teaching. The watchtower is still a man made organization that is not being led by the holy spirit.
    2 points
  18. 🌹🌹🌹Thank You for the study information. So sorry to hear about your Father! Hopefully, Jehovah has said well done faithful slave. I pray that you continue to keep your faith strong! May Jehovah continue to bless you and yours! 💐
    2 points
  19. "Jehovah" will not forgive him until the elders say he has.
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  20. Sanhedrin and Priests and all sects (Sadducees, Pharisees ...,) inside Jew system also "promoted scriptures and the truth". So what if WTJWorg doing "the same" deceiving and manipulation? :)) Should we praise them for that?
    2 points
  21. Many years ago, it was the eighties, two very zealous brothers were pioneers. They both have families and children. One of them was an elder, and the other often had problems with the appointed persons, so I suppose he sought to compensate this with pioneering service. (90-140 hours a month) What idea did they have? They collected large stocks of all the old WT magazines that remained in the assemblies and with the brothers. Those were hundreds, thousands of pieces. Why? When the ban comes and the literature stops being printed, they will have spiritual food to preach. How ridiculous
    2 points
  22. I think the experts say, You should swim as far away from the sinking ship as possible. Otherwise, you will withdraw with ship into the sea. No matter will WTJWorg stop to exist or not, personal prospect of believer is in question.
    2 points
  23. Have you forgotten? You ARE Allen Smith.
    2 points
  24. Only the spiritually blind would not comprehend that the falsehoods your organization has promoted as "truth"...are really, truly, most definitely - lies. (John 12:40) You are right. We are either for the God of Truth, or the god of the lie. Jesus told us how to discern the difference between good fruit and bad fruit – good teachings and bad teachings. It is not according to how it looks, but how it spiritually nourishes. He told us that in the last days there would be false apostles, false “christs”/anointed, false teachers/wolves in sheep's clothing – all claiming t
    2 points
  25. JWs seem to approve of the GB saying that Anointed ones should not gather together, and the GB saying that the Anointed ones would be working 'against the Holy Spirit' if they did gather together. If JWs do not protest against this then they are supporting the GB in beating the their fellow slaves as mentioned in Matthew 24 v 48 & 49 “But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards Now why would JWs support their GB in beating the Anointed Ones ? Why wouldn't JW
    2 points
  26. Thank you so much Twlyla, especially during this trying time. We certainly need the Kingdom!
    2 points
  27. I'm so sorry to hear about your Dad. Don't worry about us and these materials. As much as we love them, we love you more and you just focus on your family. My dad is 92 and has heart issues as well, so I know how scary it can be. I will keep you in my prayers and hope you get to make sweet memories during this difficult time. Take care and I send all my love...........Kim
    2 points
  28. So So Sorry to learn about your father T.B!!! You've been a great help in making sure we have these weekly gems in our personal study. So now, concentrate on your father, on your family. Speaking for myself I have allll the tools I need to study for my meetings, mid-week, and on the weekend. It's what we're supposed to be doing anyways. And I know this is a daunting task to do every other week, gathering up information and presenting it in a format to send out. Bless Your Soul!!! I know you get joy out of doing it for the friends, but your family needs you and I would rather you
    2 points
  29. 5mb hard drive transported by PanAm in 1956.
    1 point
  30. This is what JW people need to hear. 100 up votes for this!
    1 point
  31. With reasonable certainty, I am. Or at least I have been up till now.
    1 point
  32. "As President of the United States, George Washington proclaimed the first nationwide thanksgiving celebration in America marking November 26, 1789, "as a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favours of Almighty God" wikipedia. As you know, Jehovah's Witnesses don't need a special day to thank God. They do this every day. They definitely don't need George Washington to tell them when to do it. As for eating turkey on that day, there's nothing wrong with that of course. Jehovah’s Witnesses can eat turkey any d
    1 point
  33. You almost think that she would use her talents to root out villainy and solve a few problems in her country instead.
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  34. so sorry for your loss. our prayer are with you and the family. may Jehovah bless you during this time, thank you for all you do especially at this time, really appreciate what you do. keep focus of the time when no more pain or death, stay strong and remember your not alone we are with you and the family through our love, sending an air hug to you and the family.
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  35. How were Jehovah's Witnesses taught in 1941 about Armageddon? And marriage/children? Does that remind you of 1975? Or of some periods of time in JW teachings before and after these years? Don’t be bored and find it difficult to review the statements written in the main magazine The Watchtower, the 1941 edition. And the newly published book of the same year by the President of the Society, Judge Rutherford. The book is called Children. The author dedicated this book, as well as many others, to the Creator. Today, after such a long time lag, we may ask, could all these doctrines and teachi
    1 point
  36. “Notable efforts”, “sincerely tried”, “provided”, “contributed”, “assisted”. It sounds like the WT was successful in supporting the UN Charter. But, during the same time period, in another magazine… To trust any man-made substitute for God’s Kingdom makes that substitute an image, an object of worship. (Revelation 13:14, 15) Thus, encouraging reliance on political institutions, such as the United Nations, for peace and security is an illusion, a lie. Even a revived UN can never bring peace and security. God’s prophetic Word shows that the United Nations organization with it
    1 point
  37. Did Roman eradicate "all" Christians? Has Russia eradicate JW's? The faithful will continue unto death. Matthew 24:9, Revelation 2:10. Only those that fear death will coward before governments, because those truly have no faith in their hearts. The question you should be considering, will that STOP the people. I'm not defending "false" religion. Those, religions that can't or won't follow the first century teachings of Christ have the same opportunity to "repent" while there is still time to change. Do you honestly believe witnesses just want to see witnesses survive judgement
    1 point
  38. Only to ex-witnesses that don't like to read and learn. So, when something like that does happen, those that can remember, can share the wisdom of scripture for those that want to understand. What will ex-witnesses do aside from turning witnesses over to their governments.
    1 point
  39. Hmm! Since the Watchtower promotes scripture and the truth there of, are you suggesting as a self-proclaimed anointed, God, Jesus, and the apostles are liars? Are you personally telling God, what is written in scripture about choosing and having responsible me, are lies? That gathering at a church are lies? Forget the GB for a minute. They don't exist. The Watchtower will still continue without those 8 men you hate. What then "witness" What will your excuse be then. That the organization is those 8 men?
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  40. not sure which planet your from but i havent got a clue what your talking about and i never heard of allen smith maybe hes from your planet??
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  41. 'No Mr. Russell, all that stuff you taught is was all wrong'.
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  42. You condemn yourself by your words and your ignorance, Its obvious to a blind man that Jehovahs spirit is with his organisation. You are the one sinning against the spirit in My view (but i maybe wrong, i often am,) by trying to mislead and lead astray the week ones who need to be encouraged not discouraged. THIER LIVES are in your hands. I too am disfellowshipped but would never stupidly bite the hand that feeds me or hopefully saves me regardless of my standing in Jehovahs organisation. People are imperfect and make mistakes if you cant move on and forget the past you have no hope for the fu
    1 point
  43. You're calling the official of the UN a liar. His phone number is listed on the letter. You have the opportunity to tell him directly, that he is a liar. “All these elements with the exception of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development, which was agreed on and adopted in 2015, were applicable when the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society applied for and maintained, association with the United Nations, from 1991 to 2001”
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  44. So far, you have proved God anoints those who he, chooses to be Shepherds within the flock. How do they fill that position if not by good works. What are the qualifications. Don't be dismissive of the requirements and standards in scripture to satisfy your personal opinion. Now, John "stated" witnesses are jealous of true anointed. Where's his proof, God made him a prophet to make such as outlandish claim. Where is your proof, the GB are NOT anointed by the lives and responsibility they lead. Show me in scripture, where lies, misrepresentation and an advent of conspiracy, fill that a
    1 point
  45. You uphold an organization’s teachings that you really know little, of what is taught its members. The image of the beast at first was the League of Nations, now called the United Nations, for this arrangement was established to perpetuate the visible, political organization and its control over the earth. w66 8/15 pp. 497-502 As explained in previous issues of The Watchtower, the scarlet-colored beast is the international peace organization now known as the United Nations. w67 4/1 pp. 219-223 - Today the hot question under debate is: Call mankind be one under these two sys
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  46. For you, a man of the world, its all absolutely fine and acceptable. For a devout JW who believes they are "no part of the world", they are following God’s organization, and who are thoroughly convinced the Wild Beast is the UN, ANY association with it, on ANY level is not acceptable, as they have been taught through the organization’s teachings. No matter how you slice it. Especially since any JW that may choose to work for a political organization, can be disfellowshipped.
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  47. Two documents to consider. JWfacts breaks down the event quite thoroughly, including how #1 was implemented through the literature; while also providing examples of WT linking the UN with Revelation's Wild Beast: "No, the UN is not a blessing, even though the religious clergy of Christendom and the rabbis of Jewry pray heaven’s blessing upon that organization. It is really “the image of the wild beast,” the visible political, commercial organization of “the god of this system of things,” Satan the Devil. So the UN will soon be destroyed along with that beastly organization." Watchtow
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  48. How and where was this information from @Witness debunked? I thought that some of the claims had been exaggerated, but this was just my opinion. I also saw an attempt to debunk these claims that was little more than a collection of opinions. I assume then that you have the research?
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