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  1. “Is it still a God dishonoring sin to eat turkey on Thanksgiving day?” From the turkey’s standpoint, yes.
    3 points
  2. I am just seeing this now. Q Anon is an Extreme Far Right collective with an ideology that spawned alleged conspiracy theories. It was an idea started by a collective in 2016 into early 2017 due to the pedophilia rings intertwined with politics, it never started with one person, but as a group of people under the same name - "Q", however in 2017, it was eventually affiliated with a single person - Q Clearance Patriot, which is why some believe it began with one person. It is not a belief, but it is among their theories, they have a strong hatred against pedophilia within the Establishment
    3 points
  3. I know my presence here is intolerable to JWs. Many times, I have thought of leaving and never returning. (Matt 10:14) Although, I do appreciate those who visit this forum and believe in the words of Christ over the words of men. (John 8:31; 2 Tim 4:3) I admit also that I have noticed fleeting remarks made by you and a few other JWs, who have expressed some empathy for those not in the organization. But this thought conflicts with your teachings, that only those faithful to the organization, will “live forever”. (Exod 23:13,24,32; Isa 57:13; Rev 13:1,2,4 ) It must create a personal str
    3 points
  4. Witness

    Is Religion a Choice?

    God spoke of his nation under covenant as "children". When they sinned, it was obvious that they lost their "value system" in God's laws. We choose our father, we choose our course to follow - either we desire to become children of the Almighty Father, or children of the devil. John 8:44 I'm sure the devoted "children" of Jonestown believed their leaders valued their life, and they valued their own. Were these people, "Christians"? Did they adopt Christian values? What were the beliefs of Peoples Temple members?
      Hello gu
    3 points
  5. Seems certain people will soon claim that JWs started the pandemic. Christians were blamed also for the fire of Rome. Seems it will soon get to things like that. We seem to be going back to the Dark Ages.
    2 points
  6. I suspect they would still be allowed the opportunity to pay taxes. She's not thinking it through if she really thinks that voting is "buying" the governments services. Most people think they are buying representation by paying taxes and they therefore vote as a way to try to manipulate the government to have the best chance of representing their own interests in how that tax money is spent. Yet, here we have a group of people who pay taxes but are not clamoring for special favors that one party offers over another. Also, having only partisan people among your government workers results i
    2 points
  7. Some songs are worth repeating over and over. Those that they are intended for, may actually hear the lyrics.
    2 points
  8. Such a flippant remark, as if God doesn't hear; especially when HE stated: "But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.: Deut 18:20,22 After their long lineage of failed prophesy, they didn’t stop with 1975. These are prophesies as well: 1989 "The apostle Paul was spearhea
    2 points
  9. Here is the Material for November 23-29 and November 30–December 6, 2020. TB Sorry for the lateness of the post, but we have some family issues that happened yesterday. My dad's heart (95 1/2) is just giving out and he is not doing very well and was taken to the hospital. and because of COVID, we can't be with him. Can not wait for the new world!!!!!!!!!! Additional Highlights -November 30–December 6, 2020.pdf Additional Highlights -November 30–December 6, 2020.doc Watchtower November 30, 2020–December 6, 2020.pdf Watchtower November 30, 2020–December 6, 2020.doc MEETING WORKBO
    2 points
  10. It is you jehovahs witnesses who are calling Jehovah and Jesus liars, since your doctrines flip flop constantly. Your accusing jehovah of not knowing what he is talking about and thus needs to change a 180 on a doctrine or teaching. The watchtower is still a man made organization that is not being led by the holy spirit.
    2 points
  11. 🌹🌹🌹Thank You for the study information. So sorry to hear about your Father! Hopefully, Jehovah has said well done faithful slave. I pray that you continue to keep your faith strong! May Jehovah continue to bless you and yours! 💐
    2 points
  12. "Jehovah" will not forgive him until the elders say he has.
    2 points
  13. Sanhedrin and Priests and all sects (Sadducees, Pharisees ...,) inside Jew system also "promoted scriptures and the truth". So what if WTJWorg doing "the same" deceiving and manipulation? :)) Should we praise them for that?
    2 points
  14. Many years ago, it was the eighties, two very zealous brothers were pioneers. They both have families and children. One of them was an elder, and the other often had problems with the appointed persons, so I suppose he sought to compensate this with pioneering service. (90-140 hours a month) What idea did they have? They collected large stocks of all the old WT magazines that remained in the assemblies and with the brothers. Those were hundreds, thousands of pieces. Why? When the ban comes and the literature stops being printed, they will have spiritual food to preach. How ridiculous
    2 points
  15. I think the experts say, You should swim as far away from the sinking ship as possible. Otherwise, you will withdraw with ship into the sea. No matter will WTJWorg stop to exist or not, personal prospect of believer is in question.
    2 points
  16. Have you forgotten? You ARE Allen Smith.
    2 points
  17. Only the spiritually blind would not comprehend that the falsehoods your organization has promoted as "truth"...are really, truly, most definitely - lies. (John 12:40) You are right. We are either for the God of Truth, or the god of the lie. Jesus told us how to discern the difference between good fruit and bad fruit – good teachings and bad teachings. It is not according to how it looks, but how it spiritually nourishes. He told us that in the last days there would be false apostles, false “christs”/anointed, false teachers/wolves in sheep's clothing – all claiming t
    2 points
  18. JWs seem to approve of the GB saying that Anointed ones should not gather together, and the GB saying that the Anointed ones would be working 'against the Holy Spirit' if they did gather together. If JWs do not protest against this then they are supporting the GB in beating the their fellow slaves as mentioned in Matthew 24 v 48 & 49 “But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards Now why would JWs support their GB in beating the Anointed Ones ? Why wouldn't JW
    2 points
  19. Thank you so much Twlyla, especially during this trying time. We certainly need the Kingdom!
    2 points
  20. I'm so sorry to hear about your Dad. Don't worry about us and these materials. As much as we love them, we love you more and you just focus on your family. My dad is 92 and has heart issues as well, so I know how scary it can be. I will keep you in my prayers and hope you get to make sweet memories during this difficult time. Take care and I send all my love...........Kim
    2 points
  21. So So Sorry to learn about your father T.B!!! You've been a great help in making sure we have these weekly gems in our personal study. So now, concentrate on your father, on your family. Speaking for myself I have allll the tools I need to study for my meetings, mid-week, and on the weekend. It's what we're supposed to be doing anyways. And I know this is a daunting task to do every other week, gathering up information and presenting it in a format to send out. Bless Your Soul!!! I know you get joy out of doing it for the friends, but your family needs you and I would rather you
    2 points
  22. Absolutely inappropriate! It seems GB+Helpers+Elders+Organization is Anti-Type of JHVH as Type. And Great Multitude is Anti-type of Moses as Type. :)) Really crazy illustration. Moses was human, so we can play illustrations with him as we wish, it is not so sensitive. But to compare GB and Elders position and role as same as God's? ... that is in area of blasphemy.
    2 points
  23. Yes! It's called getting access to world views, which the Awake! Relies on. Back then, there was NO INTERNET access. Now, everything is digitized for internet access. The Watchtower, was only interested in the library. There is nothing wrong with having access to a huge government library. The fact that ex-witnesses submit and attach confusion, demonstrates the lack of knowledge. It would be no different with the library of congress, or any museum library that deals with ancient scrolls.
    2 points
  24. Witness

    Is Religion a Choice?

    Here's an update on obeying "Jehovah's organization" - Moses conscientiously followed Jehovah’s detailed instructions for the construction and setting up of the tabernacle. We should likewise listen to any instructions we receive from Jehovah’s organization and obey promptly and wholeheartedly. This is true even if it does not seem important to follow them or we do not understand the reason for the instructions.—Lu 16:10. mwb20 November p. 2 "But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and e
    2 points
  25. Witness

    Is Religion a Choice?

    Excellent explanation, and shocking at the same time. At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. (4) Now is the time for any who may be putting their trust in secular education, material things, or human institutions to adjust their thinking. The elders must stand ready to help any who may now be wavering in their faith. w13 11/15 p. 20
    2 points
  26. I have never said that there is no need for gatherings to study God's Word. If this was true, I wouldn't point out the many times I have here, of the preventative measures of your elder body against the anointed gathering as one body, under their Head, Jesus Christ. They are told that gathering to study the Word of God, threatens the organization's unity. It surely doesn't effect God or Christ, since it is spoken in His Word, that this unity of the anointed, brings about the completion of the Temple. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:19-20) It's like you said: Rom 12:1,2 -
    2 points
  27. Style, way of living that John the Baptizer practiced as a his (God's) way to serve God, which was visible to the people, was unusual and strange. Did he needed approval? And from whom? ....the ways of the Lord are strange. :)) I recall Jesus teaching: Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. Lk 12 51 In this context, what we can expect from Jesus' followers, to bring peace or division ... ?
    2 points
  28. As to my knowledge, only in, from 2019 did WT make a change regarding testifying in a sexual offense. ... It is best that the witnesses give their testimony in the presence of the accused, although a victim of rape or of child sexual abuse is never required to do so..... - Shepherd book ch 16, par 2, 2019 edition
    2 points
  29. 4Jah2me

    Is Religion a Choice?

    It is good to teach children 'values' and even teaching children about God and Christ, but that is different to brainwashing them with lies and false expectations. To push young children into baptism just because some other child has also been pushed into baptism, as if it's a competition. Then to disfellowship them when they go aganst the GB doctrines. This is very true “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize”
    2 points
  30. Such a flippant remark, It seems how our friend @TrueTomHarley speaking how it is "normal" to be deceived with "end-date call". I can agree with reality how always exists individuals or groups who are masters in deceiving and manipulation of other people. And we all can be their victims. JW members are not first and not last people who were/are/will be successfully deceived with "end-date call". But it is also true how WTJWorg leaders aka GB, supported and associated in collaboration with with Elders, very successfully from generation to generation of JW members, keep in force,
    1 point
  31. You almost think that she would use her talents to root out villainy and solve a few problems in her country instead.
    1 point
  32. 4Jah2me

    Is Religion a Choice?

    I thoght this was / is an intersting article.
      Hello guest!
    Is Religion a Choice? Not initially, no. You are not offered a choice. Many of us are fed our parent’s choice of faith in the same way that we are given their preferred make of baby milk… Maybe you would choose if you were shown the option
    1 point
  33. How were Jehovah's Witnesses taught in 1941 about Armageddon? And marriage/children? Does that remind you of 1975? Or of some periods of time in JW teachings before and after these years? Don’t be bored and find it difficult to review the statements written in the main magazine The Watchtower, the 1941 edition. And the newly published book of the same year by the President of the Society, Judge Rutherford. The book is called Children. The author dedicated this book, as well as many others, to the Creator. Today, after such a long time lag, we may ask, could all these doctrines and teachi
    1 point
  34. “Notable efforts”, “sincerely tried”, “provided”, “contributed”, “assisted”. It sounds like the WT was successful in supporting the UN Charter. But, during the same time period, in another magazine… To trust any man-made substitute for God’s Kingdom makes that substitute an image, an object of worship. (Revelation 13:14, 15) Thus, encouraging reliance on political institutions, such as the United Nations, for peace and security is an illusion, a lie. Even a revived UN can never bring peace and security. God’s prophetic Word shows that the United Nations organization with it
    1 point
  35. WT writers of Awake magazine using words that shows how UN is/was powerless in many worlds events, wars primarily, but how their work is commendable and how JW members render due respect to UN as any other government because they are here with God's permission and how some form of government is necessary to maintain order and law in society. The Awake magazine using Bible verses that are, that have wide application. Read this please: Clearly, the United Nations does not have the ability to bring world peace. Its members and supporters are all imperfect humans, notwithstanding their lofty
    1 point
  36. 'No Mr. Russell, all that stuff you taught is was all wrong'.
    1 point
  37. Good question. Bible verses are interesting about this. Few fragments from Luke 1: 1) But the angel said to him: ...; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son,... 2) ... he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born. 3) And now you will be silent and not able to speak until the day this happens, ... 4) When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 5) He asked for a writing tablet, and to everyone’s astonishment he wrote, “His name is John.” Immediately
    1 point
  38. Everything witnesses need to read is still in the UN servers. However, which letter? The correspondence of a disingenuous reporter in the UK? Or the statement letter the Watchtower officially made to address this conspiracy. Research!! Since I don't have the inclination to revive a conspiracy here. Start with this: This is how uneducated people get conspiracy theories to be accepted. When the Watchtower applied for the “DPI-NGO” U.N. library access in 1991, the application they filled out “didn’t” have any language of loyalty to the UN. When the application was accepted in 1992, the
    1 point
  39. It will always be in the name of whatever the abusers are involved in. But we are molded by our experiences, and that is a very bad one. One might almost say “Thanks for sharing.” It lends an insight.
    1 point
  40. does this make it right? oh my , holier than thou spoken here. Seriously, you are defending the org, because it has been this way for x amount of years? so it should continue? it should be tolerated? Do you not have compassion? sorrow for those who have to go thru this? but its ok that the org does it because it's been this way? What happened to standing up for what is right and just? Would Jesus say "well its been this way for so long and back in 1992 they did it this way.........." I hardly doubt it. If you want the org to succeed, then you are a part of making i
    1 point
  41. Very sad to hear.
    1 point
  42. I wonder which one of the elders kept this recording, and listened to it a lot.
    1 point
  43. You usually make sensible statements, but this one is an outright uninformed lie. I thought you were above that rude behavior.
    1 point
  44. If you do not teach your children values, it does not mean that they grow up free and unencumbered and, when of age, select their own values from the rich cornucopia of life. No. All it means is that someone else will teach them
    1 point
  45. What they are saying is that the final attack (that prompts Armageddon) is not made up of separate attacks. I don't know. But regardless who the attacks come from, they are usually because JWs do not compromise Bible principles. As for the inquiry into CSA, it is usually the intention of the inquiring institution to help establish better policies, to protect children, not to ban or persecute Jehovah's Witnesses. As you know, this involves many other establishments, not just JWs. So I would say this would not be considered an attack. Some of the advice was considered very g
    1 point
  46. Why do JWs boast about "Jehovah's organization", but then "pass the buck" when they are accused of gross sin? To 'pass the buck' is to evade responsibility by passing it on to someone else. To shift or reassign the blame or responsibility (for something) to another person, group, or thing. blame somebody or to make others responsible for a problem that you should deal with yourself.
    1 point
  47. You uphold an organization’s teachings that you really know little, of what is taught its members. The image of the beast at first was the League of Nations, now called the United Nations, for this arrangement was established to perpetuate the visible, political organization and its control over the earth. w66 8/15 pp. 497-502 As explained in previous issues of The Watchtower, the scarlet-colored beast is the international peace organization now known as the United Nations. w67 4/1 pp. 219-223 - Today the hot question under debate is: Call mankind be one under these two sys
    1 point
  48. How and where was this information from @Witness debunked? I thought that some of the claims had been exaggerated, but this was just my opinion. I also saw an attempt to debunk these claims that was little more than a collection of opinions. I assume then that you have the research?
    1 point
  49. I really don't know, but speaking of NGO, here is some food for thought. “A MISSION TO AFRICA” Jehovah’s Witnesses should not be naïve to the fact that the Watchtower Society acquired a measure of political stature with the United Nations after becoming an associate NGO. Ostensibly, the purpose was to muster support in behalf of Jehovah’s Witnesses facing difficult situations in various countries throughout the world. And evidently partnering with the UN has not gone unrewarded, which is betrayed in small ways by the organization itself, such as the following brief report that
    1 point
  50. I was under the mistaken opinion that the Isaiah 2 quote had been removed somehow (my ignorance). So, after doing a little digging, I came up with this quote, which tells me the U.N. never was involved “with putting that text in big letters on that wall”. “The complex is also notable for its gardens and outdoor sculptures. Iconic sculptures include the "Knotted Gun", called Non-Violence, a statue of a Colt Python revolver with its barrel tied in a knot, which was a gift from the Luxembourg government and "Let Us Beat Swords into Plowshares” ", a gift from the Soviet Union. The latter scu
    1 point
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