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    • It's never irrelevant Tom, the truth is you find it a thorn in your side as do all JW's. I don't hate, well I try not to hate anyone, but I do hate the 'goings on' in the JW Org, the hidden things that congregants are not supposed to know about.  A bit cowardly though not being open to debate. But only to be expected from JW's that are hiding from the truth.  I hope you are well Tom and having a good start to this new year. I know it's only numbers, years that is, but each January does give some folks new hopes.  Each day is another day closer to Judgement Day / Armageddon. I do hope the JW Org is sorted out in time, or another Org is formed to take its place.  So are we only going to read comments from people that find fault in the JW Org here ?  Are the rest of you going to be on the 'Loyal' forum, having your ears tickled  
    • There IS something strange going on. I think the Librarian (the old hen) is trying to separate warring factions for the sake of decorum. I had to “join” a club to confront the malcontents, in a forum where anything goes & so I suspect that anyone can join here. You might find it harder to join the “loyal” JW forum, because you have proven that you can speak about only one thing, and, as often as not, you insert it where it is completely irrelevant.
    • @TrueTomHarley He is good at zany storytelling.  zany /ˈzeɪni/ adjective adjective: zany; comparative adjective: zanier; superlative adjective: zaniest 1. amusingly unconventional and idiosyncratic. "his zany humour" synonyms: eccentric, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, quirky, avant-garde, unconventional, off-centre, strange, outlandish, ridiculous, ludicrous; More Well yep you said it Tom.  Tom you are indeed a weird storyteller, your own words i think. I read that page you linked too and it's total untruth and ridiculous, ludicrous rubbish, bit I'm sure you enjoy the GB's rules of 'spiritual warfare', which in truth means telling lies.  You know why people are turning against the JW Org. Child abuse is one of the biggest issues. You know that. The Elders, on one hand pretending not to be a 'clergy class', then on the other hand using 'Clergy Privilege' to hide criminals within the JW Org.  The GB giving instructions that lies can be told to protect the JW Org and the GB, but calling it spiritual warfare.  The Blood Issue seeming contradictory by saying NO blood but any amount of fractions which is made from blood.  The Shunning problem, a rule made up by the GB and enforced by the Elders.  The list of genuine concerns goes on. The GB and their ranks below them, right down to the Elders, show no love or mercy, just laws and rules. Just as the religious leaders did in Jesus' time.  And if anyone dare, like me, find fault in the JW Org or the top 'brass', the GB, then we are branded Apostates. Well I for one am proud to be an Apostate to a religion that enjoys telling lies, makes up rules from nothing, misuses scriptures, changes meaning of scriptures  when it suits them, hides pedophiles within it, misuses the law of the land to suit their own purposes, and then asks for money to cover all the expencies / fines when the courts finally catch up wit them.  Remember this Tom, an Apostate turns against a former religion, an apostate does not turn against GOD or JESUS CHRIST.         
    • OK, not really a topic, but I'm confused   J W's Open Club ?  this one that I've just joined. What happened to the other JW club ?  Do you know I cannot even remember what it was called. Was it JW's Private club ?  Any way did i miss something happening and if so what, when and why ???  Thanks. 
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