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  1. I also endured Detention in Military prison for 14 months Srecko - I don't regret the experience because I also learned a lot about myself and about others while in prison. But we found out later that brothers are allowed to take alternative service now ......"New Light" . This is an organization that enjoys having people being persecuted because it "markets" their goals ~
  2. It's not a rubber stamping excercise you know [Exercise / Maybe you meant Exorcise?] Well it is when the 3-man tribunal meets and decides your everlasting fate ! S-77 + Blue Envelope So very officious !
  3. Persecution and harassment of Religious groups is NOT confined exclusively to Jehovah's Witnesses. http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2275 Police fined four Baptists for leading Easter worship meetings in Temirtau and Taraz. Council of Churches Baptists speak of a "new wave" of raids. An Almaty court fined a Protestant church and banned all its activity for three months, and ordered a foreigner deported. Police raided at least two Baptist meetings for worship on Easter Sunday, 16 April, in the central city of Temirtau and the southern city of Taraz. Officers issued four summary fines totalling about nine months' average wages with no court hearings. Such fines for meeting for worship are increasing, Baptists complained to Forum 18. In a separate case, a court in the southern city of Almaty has banned a Protestant church from meeting for three months (from 13 April to 12 July). The court also fined it for holding a meeting for worship in a place other than its registered address. An Indian citizen associated with the church is appealing against a fine and deportation order (see below). An official of Almaty's Religious Affairs Department, Karshyga Malik, told Forum 18 on 24 April that the administrative cases against the church and the Indian citizen were among 33 it had launched since the beginning of 2017. The cases were to punish those who meet without state permission, meet in places without state permission, distribute religious literature without state permission or talk to others of their faith without state permission. "New wave" of raids on Baptists Police raids on congregations of the Council of Churches Baptists are frequent. They choose to meet for worship without seeking state registration. So to borrow the words of member David Mahlangu* on this post: """All this new developments in Russia makes me see that we are actually in a true religion, remember what Jesus said in John 17:16" they are no part of the world,just as i m no part of the world", that is why they hate us. so brothers and sisters we have to remember that in one way or the other, all bible prophecies have to be fulfilled before Armagedon. John 15:20b says "if they have persecuted me,they will also persecute you".it is very painful but it has to happen. So brothers in Russia Jehovah is with you don't give up.""" -- There are other groups probably feeling exactly the same ! *SANIBONANI David Mahlangu - Ngithemba ukuthi uyaphila?
  4. The MOAB was a costly exercise about nothing .....Trump playing with his Dinky-Toys like a little kid, It killed 30 + people and probably mobilized the minds of 1000's more pro-Islamists to take up their crazy cause. God Reveals His Purpose by the Fulfillment of Prophecy. Having had egg on their faces so many times in the past for trying to play prophet or predictors / preemptors of Bible events it would be good for such ones to Wait on Him.
  5. Is current International Law the most sovereign body of law *? Are all the nations of the world in the Power of the Wicked one? What validates one set of laws over another ? Note that I am asking questions for simple non-contentious answers. * If in a future point in time International Law validates something which violates current international law what then ? Sometimes as Christians one may just have to suck up the "punishment" / "persecution" and rely on God/
  6. Its sad that "the people" now so readily invent "end-times events" - Its really a practiced and entrenched mind-set - This is what happened with the 1975 debacle - Its is true that the Dubbery did not say the world would end then - but the proletariat with that entrenched thinking picked up on it, embellished it and rode with it to their chagrin. Of course the HQ did Nothing to play down the frenzy and let people run with it to their ruin ! [They gave up child-bearing, jobs, houses, pensions and life insurances] Once bitten ................................................
  7. John Lindsay Barltrop You are a conceited self -righteous pompous ass - with your perfected [over all the years ] judgemental ability - no doubt you are an Elder in your congo. "Jehovah and His people" = Prove it ......that you are part of Jehovah and His People ! Please note what Brother Geoffrey Jackson of the Governing Body / Faithful and Discreet Slave Class had to say at the Australian Royal Commission [under Oath]: Question: And do you see yourselves as Jehovah God’s spokespeople on earth? Answer: That I think would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that God is using. The scriptures clearly show that someone can act in harmony with God’s spirit in giving comfort and help in the congregations, but if I could just clarify a little, going back to Matthew 24, clearly Jesus said that in the last days - there would be a slave, a group of persons who would have responsibility to care for the spiritual food. So in that respect, we view ourselves as trying to fulfill that role. (15937:37) [trying...note ! ] So according to Brother Jackson, the Governing Body is not the only spokesperson God is using today! He even said that the scriptures support this fact. This is a profound departure from the claim of exclusivity they have maintained for decades. Notice this reference: “That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.” [July 15, 2013 Watchtower magazine, page 20, paragraph 2.] You get it ! Oh doyen of pomposity ?
  8. How about applying the Law of Reason and the Law of Love ..........? " you have been badly hurt in body and mind .. you are angry and confused ....you no longer feel comfortable in being around people who did not defend you in your most desperate time of need and you loathe walking into the Hall ..with its vivid reminders of your abuse ...so you want to be out....that's ok ....we understand.. but we still love you and we are here for you......." Contrasted by: " you have chosen to disfellowship Jehovah's Organization ....how dare you......take her out to the city gate and stone her " You just don't understand LOVE at all some of you! Christ-like love! You have never comprehended the Lesson of the meeting with the woman at the well that Jesus had.
  9. I have observed ...at length ......and often.....that not much activity takes place at the Trolley's. The Guardians of the Trolley are having a lot of discussion with one another. Some have brought refreshments - a good idea, but as to its overall efficacy? I am skeptical ! In all the times I observed the Trolley Dolley's NO ONE approached the trolleys. I find that frightening.
  10. On the 10th of this month, the Australia Royal Commission held Case 54 which was a review of the responses of Jehovah’s Witnesses to the Commission’s findings. The representatives from the Australia branch swore on the Bible “to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth”. Did they comply with this solemn oath before God? You be the judge after watching this video:
  11. The Point has been made - As to advocating the real solution...............this is precisely why there are so many victims .....because we have all been sitting on our hands .....waiting for Jehovah's day of intervention and doing nothing to address the Present Day tangible problem within the Org. That is why we are working for a "worldly" NGO dealing with this issue + other related horrors - Yes there are "worldly ...soon to be destroyed at Armageddon" people out there who are WORKING to assist victims...See ! Action People - Tackling the problems ASSISTING the victims - Not striving to portray an image of "Squeaky Cleanness" when it actually does not exist- and doing squat to attend to the ones that Jehovah and Christ truly love - And give the lady a G [Good] for Repetition for Emphasis Friday 10th March the follow up on the ARC in Australia commences - It will be broadcast live. Maybe we will all be surprised by the Organizations response ! We hope .... FINIS
  12. AbigailSenseful The ARC Report IS NOT GENERALISATION ! ITS FACT - GET THAT INTO YOUR THICK SKULL ! """Even if these allegations are true, who are you to sit in judgment as if you yourself is clean, perfect, and undefiled?""" Lawdy you are switched off ! The GB of the JW movement sits in judgement of its flock all the time - even to the point of Disfellowshipping victims of child abuse. You have judge me - How do you know what my relationship with Jehovah is at this time? You don't ! So don't judge me. And as to "looking for flaws" - SORRY - I have no need to Look! The reports are hitting us in the face these days - its all over the media - [ oh of course the Media is making this all up - Satan's hand in matters .........blah blah fishpaste ! ] Ann - o - M ......the suffering caused to victims of child abuse is NOT A FUN TOPIC - I will use any form of activism to denounce the JW stance on this and any forum I can access to "put it out there" You have only to hear the harrowing testimony of Octogenarian victims of the British Abuse Cases perpetrated against vulnerable children who we shipped off to Australia [currently underway in the UK] to realize the damage that this causes. This forum is used by people who would rather we saw the JW dot Org as this squeaky clean ever so righteous organization that would never harm anyone - "spiritual paradise" WELL ITS NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL. Now READ THE REPORT and then YOU will be able to judge it and not try to lecture me first !
  13. The issue at the heart of Pedophilia within the WTBTS is about THE LACK OF RESPONSE on the part of the LEADERSHIP . Not about how many pedos's there are / were ! Its about the lack of action Its about the lack of protection and help afforded the victims. Pedos will abound and so too dsysfunctional families What is the WTBTS going to do to remedy ITS policies on the matter ? The links I posted are merely attempting to emphasize this - WTBTS has not done anything worthwhile to address the issue - that's the disgusting part about this ! Those links are not my sole possession - they are in the public domain. The ARC is not attempting to Publicize it world-wide. However the WTBTS WILL NOT make it Public now will they? Why not ?
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