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  1. Mr. Rook, I doubt that because your argument coupled with your "common sense” shows that you are ignorant of the Scriptures, and proves that you just follow the false, man made ideas of a magazine, this is brought out by juxtaposing your silly argument on how the KJV translates! Prove that you read your Bible by providing me with Scriptural evidence for your idea that the Holy Spirit is some sort of power/force, if you can't, then that shows you are NOT reading the Bible but relying on man made teachings. <><
  2. Mr Rook, I know that JWs are scripturally naïve, because you follow the false teachings of a magazine and the ideas of men. I gave you evidence showing how your argument lacks Biblical support. Do yourself a favor…read your Bible! <><
  3. The facts show that the Scriptures describes the Holy Spirit as a person, not as an impersonal force!
  4. Mr Rook, You don’t know the Scriptures do you, for if you did then you would know how ridiculous your whole argument is! In Scripture spiritual beings are not always named; some evil spirits are rarely named but are identified by their particular character/title, for example “unclean” and ‘wicked” etc., and yet there is no doubt that they are persons! But anyway, to show you further how your argument is completely groundless, you should do yourself a favor and go read in your Bible (that is if you have one?) and take note how the Holy Spirit is ident
  5. Scripture describes the Holy Spirit as a person, not as an impersonal force, when it says that He teaches, guides, comforts and intercedes (John 14:26; Romans 8:14; John 14:26; Romans 8:26). We are told that He possesses emotions, intellect and will (Ephesians 4:30; 1 Corinthians 2:10–14; 1 Corinthians 12:11). And one of the most strike irrefutable testimony is that the Holy Spirit spoke to Philip and gave counsel to the church at Jerusalem (Acts 8:29; 15:28). <><
  6. One of the most striking features of the teachings of Jesus is that He was constantly talking about Himself. And to enter into the Kingdom depends on how we respond to Him personally; He even called the Kingdom of God “my Kingdom”. This self teaching of Jesus is one of the first things that set Jesus apart from the other religious teachers of the world. Jesus points people to Himself saying “I am the truth; follow me” No other founder of the world religions would dare say such a thing and expect to be taken seriously. The personal pronouns that Jesus uses force us t
  7. SCRIPTURE shows that the Holy Spirit is a Person, clearly distinct from the Father (not a subspecies of metaphor as has been claimed) and also distinct from Jesus. John 16:13-14 “…he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come…he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you.” Throughout this passages from John’s Gospel, Jesus ascribes the same or similar personal actions to the Holy Spirit as He does to the disciples and even Himself (e.g., I
  8. Matthew 28:19 states that baptism is into the name (eis to onoma) of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; this was intended as the summary of the first principles of the Christian religion, and of the new covenant. By our being baptized, we solemnly profess, our consent to the scripture-revelation concerning God, the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. We are baptized, not into the names, but into the name, of Father, Son, and Spirit, which plainly shows that these three are one, and their name one. The passage is clearly mentioning the three Persons in Trinity. <><
  9. In 1 Cor. 12:11, we read, “But the one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing separately to each as He wills.” Here “will” is ascribed to the Spirit and we are taught that the Holy Spirit is NOT a force/power that we are somehow to get hold of and use, but a Person who uses us according to His will. Read it again those of you who don’t “get it”! The Bible is the only real source of truth, funny how some don’t get that but instead use worldly ideas to try and support their manmade teaching. <><
  10. No Mr. Rook, my “premise” is based on the Bible! On what ‘premise” do base your idea? A worldly one? I don’t care what you call your “theology”, where is your Biblical support? Anyone can make a doctrine up and twist what you call “real life examples” to try to support that made up doctrines, but without Biblical support it is worthless! The personhood of the Holy Spirit is affirmed by Scripture, but because you base your idea of the Holy Spirit on the teaching of men, your use of worldly examples fall flat when put up against the tru
  11. But where is your Biblical proof that this is the case when referring to the Holy Spirit? Have you any? If you have none then you are just sprouting the ideas of men and nothing else. <><
  12. Further to the Biblical verification that the Holy Spirit is a Person, the Scriptures show that He has the ability to think, to will and to feel. The Holy Spirit is not an impersonal force as false religion teach. In his epistles, Paul uses several verbs for the Spirit’s activity that only make sense if the subject of the verb is a Person. Paul writes of the Spirit searching and knowing (1 Cor. 2:11), teaching (1 Cor. 2:13), and crying out (Gal. 4:6), just to name a few. Paul tells the Ephesian church not to grieve the Holy Spirit (Eph. 4:30).
  13. Christian baptism as designated in Matthew 28:19 is an act of religious worship, in which the person being baptized is obligated to believe in, worship, and serve the only true God. The apostles of Christ had been taught that there was but one God; and yet they were commanded to baptize into the name of three distinct persons—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Mark the fact: Christ did not say "the names," but "the name." A few brief remarks here, the Biblical Trinity is not three separate Gods, but a unity of three distinct persons in one God. In the form of
  14. “May the Lord direct your hearts to God’s love and Christ’s endurance” (2 Thess. 3:5) In this verse we have the Father and Christ named alongside the One to whom this request for blessing is made. The verse clearly has three Persons in view. Jesus Himself says in Matt. 9:37-38, “the harvest is plentiful but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest therefore to send out workers into the harvest field” Who is “the Lord of the harvest”? It is the one who sends forth persons to reap in the fields of the world, and when we look to the book of Acts, we se
  15. The Doctrine of the Trinity arises because of everything that the Bible, especially in the New Testament, says about the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We see this not just in various passages that talk about the Deity of Christ or the Person of the Holy Spirit, but in a pervasive pattern throughout the New Testament in which the three Persons are presented alongside one another in an equal and obvious parallel. There are too many examples to list them all, here are a few examples. After his resurrection, Jesus commissioned his disciples to take the gospel to all nation
  16. Mr. Rook, I want to know what Biblical support you have for the your idea that the Holy Spirit is a power/force... do you have any? I think not. Also, I don’t need to substitute anything. Like it or not, you brought up the silly example of drivers’ license to try to support your manmade idea, I just showed how unsubstantiated it was. <><
  17. Mr. Rook,  We have gone over this already. Your argument is not a sound one, just because you think the Holy Spirit does not have a personal name, is not a good recourse to assume that the Holy Spirit is not a real Person. If this were a valid argument, then, following your line of reasoning, a newborn child is not a person until he/she is named (or is of age to get a driver's license).  In Scripture spiritual beings are not always named; some evil spirits are rarely named but are identified by their particular character/title, for example “unclean” and ‘wicked” etc
  18. In an initial post we are given a Unitarian view point which seeked to explain away the implications of the passage of Matthew 28:19, to the tone that verse 18 gives the meaning of verse 19. That in verse 19, “the singular name is pertaining to is the one authority of God the Father (Yahweh/Jehovah) through God's Son (Yeshua/Jesus) in God's Holy Spirit … The disciples are to do these things in the name of the authority of the Father, given to the Son, by the Holy Spirit…” That was how the Unitarian explanation was given in spite of the clear meaning of the passage. Yet
  19. We read in Romans 15:30, “I appeal to you, brothers, by our Lord Jesus Christ and by the love of the Spirit, to strive together with me in your prayers to God on my behalf” Here "love" is ascribed to the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not a mere blind, unfeeling “power” as some like to claim, with no Biblical backing. The Holy Spirit is a Person who loves us tenderly and He extends that love through our hearts, love comes from love. Love is the evidence of true religion, and this love is of the Holy Spirit and His love for us. The Holy Spirit l
  20. In another discussion on how arianism, and it’s later off-shots, began in the fourth century, I read many works from the early church, pre fourth century. It is well documented how the Watchtower Society lied in some of its publications about what the early church taught and believed in an effort to further deceive its adherents (and other naive individuals) into believing its false teachings. So I thought, before I provide more evidence from the Scriptures that the Holy Spirit is a Person that it would be interesting to see what the early church taught and believed
  21. The quotes I gave are a Literal Translation and are from my Interlinear Bible by Jay P. Green Sr. You might also want to look up Young’s Literal Translation. The rest of what you say is a complete and utter load of bias rubbish oozing from you distorted mind. You have no idea whatsoever on any of the things you say, none. It is no wonder you agree with that dishonest Space merchant…birds of a feather…<><
  22. Mr. Rook, Please note the following Scriptures. “For the unseen things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things made, both His eternal power and Godhead, for them to be without excuse.” (Romans 1:20) “For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily” (Col 2:9). <><
  23. The Bible provides many ways to help us understand that the Holy Spirit is truly a Person rather than impersonal thing. Matthew 28:19 teaches us to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This is a collective reference to one Triune God. Also, we are not to grieve the Holy Spirit (Eph. 4:30). The Spirit can be sinned against (Isa. 63:10). And most important of all we are to obey Him (Acts 10:19-21).“And as Peter pondered concerning the vision, the Spirit said to him, ‘Behold, three men are seeking you. But rising up, go down and go with them, not dis
  24. Mr. Rook It amazes me how many times you get so many things wrong. You imply that Revelation 1:1-2 should be enough to prove that Jesus is not God, because as you reason, Jesus is given the Revelation from God. But you forget that Jesus is the mediator between the Godhead and mankind, in His mediatorial role He is given the Revelation to pass on to man. The fact is, Jesus has been resurrected as man and His role as mediator and revealer is not over. The fact is Jesus has a great more to say to His true followers (compare John 16:12).
  25. Space merchant, I read through your response and I am astounded by the amount of your contradictions, not only that but you even deliberately alter my statement to try to cover up for something you said. I said on January 20; Note carefully that my above statement does NOT contain the word “eternal”! You responded on January 24 with this comment; I replied on January 28 Now here comes your contradiction and deliberate altering of what I said; You added the word ‘e
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