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  1. Noble Berean
    They already did.
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    Why are they not respecting the superior authorities? How does giving this namelist violate our beliefs?
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    This really puts a bad mark on Jehovah's name. It's concerning to me that more and more people are coming to associate the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses with child abuse.
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    Well @Nicole I think my response is completely reasonable and meaningful. As you said, JW wouldn't participate in the pagan holiday of Dia De Los Muertos which is celebrating dead ones who are roaming the earth as ghosts. Yes I am aware that in Latin culture worship of the spirits is common. But a tribute that honors a person's LIFE is not objectionable.
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    That's in the unrated edition...Â
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    @TrueTomHarley yes our desire to be "slow to anger" and not loving violence sets us apart. It doesn't make sense from a worldly perspective!! Although I don't judge a Christian that carries a gun, I think of how Jehovah God asked the Israelites to go into battle with no weapons. What a message sent to the nations that God has a people that rely on HIM and not physical weaponry. I think of the future when nations will turn violent against us. Will we think this is our fight? No. Jehovah says vengeance is his. Jehovah will protect his people pure from the bloody violence of this world.
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    It relates to it. You're saying a tribute is idolatry. Is honoring a dead loved one idolatry? Honestly, I don't think you're being very sympathetic to these individuals. Their daughter is dead and now you're attacking their character as Christians? If this was any other person on earth...these questions would sound ridiculous. These tributes probably give them joy, because they remember their daughter living and singing...maybe they think of the paradise with her.
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    Out of curiosity...do you have privileges in the hall? Legally I don't think the elders can tell you not to carry, but I imagine this would interfere with your ability to take on a role in the hall. I have no issue with a JW carrying a gun on their own time, but I don't know if I care for it in the KH. The KH is our safe, sacred space provided by Jehovah. If someone goes in and commits violence, they are attacking Jehovah on his holy ground. I put my full trust in God that justice will be served if someone "touches his eyeball". We should return good with evil--not evil for evil. We are in many ways "sitting ducks" (did you see the videos of KH invasions by police in Russia? Please look at how calm and respectful the JWs were) but we put our trust in Jehovah to make things right. That's a witness of faith for the world to see. Furthermore, are all JWs mentally qualified to carry a gun in the hall? What if a JW--angry about a counsel or judicial decision--decided to take vengeance into his own hands?
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    @Nicole why? Don't parents honor their dead children by putting flowers at a gravestone?
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    Where are you getting that information?
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    @JW Insider in all seriousness, is there any clear, scriptural evidence for a two-part presence?
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    Do you honestly think any non-JW cares that Selena's parents have participated in tributes of her?
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    "Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence" (2 Thessalonians 2:8). I understand that Jehovah's Witnesses believe Jesus Christ presence began back in 1914. I also understand that JWs believe the clergy of Christendom represent the Man of Lawlessness. However, if that is the case, why have the clergy thrived since 1914? Shouldn't they be brought to "...nothing by the manifestation of his presence"?
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    Just to break it down. JWs believe: The MOL is exclusively Christendom's clergy The presence of Jesus Christ began in 1914 and the MOL/clergy were revealed by the preaching work of JWs Since the presence has begun already, we are now waiting for the "generation" to be sealed in heaven If any of those variables are incorrect, then the whole framework fails and we have to start from scratch. The MOL "...sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god" (2 Thess 2:4). Are we to believe that in 1914 Christendom was the "temple of The God"? If Jesus Christ presence began in 1914, how can it be said in the Bible: "For just as lightning flashes from one part of heaven to another part of heaven, so the Son of man will be in his day" (Luke 17:24)? Also, since 1914, have the MOL/clergy been done "...away with by the spirit of his [Jesus Christ] mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence" (2 Thess 2:8)? The clergy are still very much thriving post 1914. The original 1914 "generation" died off. This has lead to the GB developing a new theory on the generation (two overlapping groups) after 100 years of maintaining the other theory. Is there clear, Biblical evidence for this new theory or was it created to maintain an outdated theory? These are some points that appear to discredit the framework of JWs.
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    @Israeli Bar Avaddhon @JW Insider it seems as though anointed Christians have been demoted to a minor role in the organization today. My question is: What role will the anointed play in the time leading up to the end? When are all the anointed sealed in heaven?
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    I would agree. That's usually what's brought up in anti-JW articles as a way to say the religion is a cult.
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    Yes, there is a balancing act that is necessary. I don't agree with the organization becoming tolerant of everything, but I think matters like the rejection of blood transfusions and shunning df'ed children are crossing a line of control. I just can't stand behind those things. It violates my Bible conscience. I know that puts me in a bad place in this religion.
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    I don't want to leave the organization. There's many things I admire about it. I just don't understand why every JW has to be in 100% agreement with all GB directions. I don't think the organization would descend into chaos if more matters were treated as conscience decisions. There are already areas of conscience like entertainment and the religion hasn't fallen apart over that.
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    I think a lot of non-religious people do not want their children participating in sports like football and hockey. Too many reports of concussions that cause permanent brain damage and pain. As Christians, school sports just take away too much time from our faith. Coaches demand practices whenever they see fit. That doesn't mean JWs can't play sports on their own time. In fact, many JWs I know organize intramurals.
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    I think the issue is not that people are taking the lead. That's understandable. The issue is that the GB has total, unchallenged control over scriptural interpretation. What scriptural basis can be used to defend that? Is there evidence that the apostles behaved this way?
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    @Gone Fishing He's probably referring to the Man of Lawlessness Prophecy in 2 Thessalonians 2:11: "That is why God lets a deluding influence mislead them so that they may come to believe the lie, in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness."
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    "Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world" (1 John 4:1).
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    So are you suggesting that only 7 people in the world have the correct insight on the scriptures?
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