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Israeli Bar Avaddhon

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  1. I have made an article explaining how to do a biblical search and I did not insult or offend anyone. You have started to say that I am an apostate, a deceiver, one who wants to put "confusion", a false prophet, deceptive etc. etc. All right. This shows how deep your knowledge of the Bible and how deep is your love for God - Matthew 5:11; 12:36, 37; I'm also used to this and I expect a lot more for the future - John 16: 1, 2 P.S. But was not I the presumptuous? Are not you that you understand everything?
  2. Dear AllenSmith, you will surely have noticed that I use the translator (with many errors) because my english is poor. So if I misunderstand a question or the purpose of a question, you will understand the reason. Regarding the meaning of the article, I speak of personal experience (and not presumption). I know very well that with many of my brothers, who have many good qualities, you can not talk about doctrines, you can not challenge an "official truth" because otherwise you are automatically a murmur or apostate. It's not a novelty that we can not recapture a doctrine so we're not talking about science fiction. Continue to apply the scriptures to whomever you want. It is not my problem. You will not be judging
  3. Dear AllenSmith, If you want to push me to say "The Governing Body" then say "Then you are an apostate!" I assure you that this is not the point. If I follow any person who has authority (true or supposed) above the Bible, then I am an idolater - Matthew 23: 8 If, on the other hand, there is someone who is able to enter the subject without taking a political position, let's see what the article is about to be published. The article has highlighted the correct (right, right) method of doing a biblical search. Who has the authority to determine whether a doctrine is correct or wrong? Only the Bible - Matthew 4: 4, 7; John 17:17 The Son of God, every time he taught or responded to his adversaries, never forgot his own wisdom, but always mentioned the Scriptures - Matthew 15: 3-9 How can we make the Bible, and only the Bible, speak when we need to understand a doctrine or teaching? We have to search the subject in all the scriptures that speak (and also read the context, obviously). To do this, Concordance is very useful (as seen in the picture). By doing this you will find that some doctrines are correct and some are wrong. Those who really love the Bible will respect the Bible. Those who love their religion, more than the Bible, will pretend nothing and find all "justifications" to continue in error. Is the article intended to be a rebellion to religion or to create another religion? Absolutely not because this is the people of God. However, although this is the people of God this does not mean that there are both doctrinal and organizational errors. If we read the warnings to the congregations reported in Revelation, we see that false teachings and bad people can enter into the people of God - Revelation 2: 1, 8, 12, 18; 3: 1, 7, 14 (see also 2 Timothy 2: 20-22) He who examines the congregations will put things into place (even with severe discipline) so we look forward to him, without creating divisions. But this does not mean that we do not have to study the Bible personally. It does not mean that we do not have to understand what the Bible really teaches (though we find that some things taught are wrong) and does not mean that we do not have to act according to knowledge acquired according to conscience. Studying the Bible is a duty of every Christian. So, for some who understood the article, the encouragement is to study the Bible with the only truly neutral and accurate help: the Bible itself. When the discipline comes (and it will come) no one thinks to say "I could not know. I was so taught in this way" because judgment will be individual on each of us. Each of us has a Bible and has the ability to understand it, asking for help from God. The reaction that someone has been commenting on this article should make us realize that some of us have become idolatrous. Someone has put their own religion above the Word of God. When it is not possible to discuss a doctrine (or anything else) even in the face of biblical evidence, it is evident that some people have been placed above the Word of God - Matthew 15: 6 This is one of the reasons (not the only one) for which God will punish his own people. Individually, though, each of us can be protected from calamity. I hope that each of you can evaluate this article carefully and personally ascertain what the will of God is for us.
  4. And I recommend: add other exclamation points otherwise it is unclear. And continue to put negative scores on posts: maybe the majority wins
  5. it is very easy to apply scriptures to others and never to themselves. Try answering the post's merit. Has the post taught to create other religions or divisions? Instead, he taught what the supreme authority is. The Bible. If someone teaches a doctrine that goes against the Bible, then it is a false doctrine. Did I say that this is not the people of God and so you have to abandon it? Try to distinguish an unjustified criticism from a biblical teaching. Did I say that the name of God is not Jehovah? Did I say that Jesus is the part of a Trinity? Did I teach that there is hell of fire? Absolutely no. However, the people of God will be severely disciplined (shortly) because they have not followed the Bible as they should have but have taught as doctrines of men commanded - Joel 1: 5-8 You can not even do a search with the Bible because you have raised some people above the Bible. If you believe you have not yet understood everything, try to make your reflections - Amos 5: 18-20 Just like the ancient Israelites, most of you have a false sense of security - 1 Peter 4:17 The ancient inhabitants of Judah were too sure of them and had to wake up a good morning. You have the Bible: try to study it really
  6. But what a beautiful deep talk! How many scriptures! Unfortunately, however, the Bible teaches that each of us must "make sure of the truth" - 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Jesus says that only the Bible is the truth - John 17:17 The responsibility to know the Bible is of each of us and the Bereans are praised for comparing the scriptures - Acts 17:11 Anyway I understand it's annoying to admit that you're wrong. All the scriptures you have mentioned do not deny these deep truths. You have the Bible and I have the Bible. Each of us has to study the Bible and carefully evaluate what it really teaches. In the end, the speech is very simple. There are those who love the Word of God above all else and those who pray for their own team - Revelation 3: 9
  7. Those who have "spiritual maturity" are guided by the Bible as it is the only and true authority - Proverbs 2: 1-6
  8. The glory and honor belong only to Jehovah - Psalm 150: 6 Keeping this in mind, the article that follows is not intended to be a personal celebration or celebration of the blog (Romans 3:23), but make a list of achievements will serve as encouragement to all those who wish to continue to examine the Bible without conditions. For many people, in fact, examine the Bible is "too hard", "it is just one group of people chosen", you have to have some kind of education or skills, you have to follow "what they write other", you should consult some kind of scholars etc etc . These ideas clash with scriptures as Proverbs 2: 1-6, Matthew 11:25, 26, John 17: 3; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17 and others. The Bible is a great gift that Jehovah has given to mankind and the only way to appreciate the show is to study hard and respect - Acts 17:11 Our loving Father desires that each of us is received accurate knowledge of truth so that no one is destroyed - Ezekiel 33:11; 1 Timothy 2: 4 Obviously if God deliberately prevented someone to know His Will would be a partial God but we know that is not so - Deuteronome 32: 4; Acts 10:34, 35 One of the fundamental reasons why God could "stop" to understand His Word has to do with the attitude of the person as we saw in Matthew 11:25, 26 (see also Daniel 12:10). Another reason could be that the time to understand certain details, including certain prophecies, has not yet reached - compare Daniel 9: 2; 12: 9 Perhaps there may also be other reasons, but other than that nowhere in the Bible it is said that to understand His Word is a privilege reserved for a few. On the contrary, the responsibility to investigate this remarkable book is aimed at all because even the decision will be a personal thing - John 3:19; Romans 14:10; Revelation 20:13 Beginning to overcome the barriers that exist only in our heads, maybe we can approach the study of writing having confidence that Jehovah will help us - James 1: 5 Since Jehovah's Witnesses want to be the Bible to speak and not their own ideas , some may wonder how it is possible to do this. It is useless to deny that the Bible is a very large book, and that some things are objectively difficult to understand - 2 Peter 3:15, 16 Before seeing the goals achieved, thus, the article will show which method was followed to date to ensure you have really talk about the Bible. What you will learn will highlight the guidelines of proper research and is not to be understood as something perfect and not customizable. We therefore invite all those readers who have appreciated at least some of the articles posted so far to assess the ability to break away from some paradigms and start their research autonomously using only the Bible to explain the Bible * (see footnote) The material. What do you need. The Bible (maybe three or four different translations) and Concordance. The Concordance is the publication which has been used in all the articles posted so far. Each aid can be useful but the Concordance is the only truly neutral publication because it "limits" to put the parties together without comment, outside of context and without giving emphasis to one side than the other. On more than seventy items previously posted were used books Insight three or four times (especially for historical references), we looked for an original Greek word with an explanation of the beauty of two times but every time it writes are compared via the Concordance and these comparisons are born articles. H with a Bible and a Concordance? Then you have 90% of the material you need. So grab a pen and paper and think of a subject, any. Following real example of how the articles until now have been developed. Subject: judgment, death and sin (chosen according to the doctrine which provides that death delete sins)  The Bible is all you need  As seen in the picture, you take the subject and put aside all the scriptures together with their context. Of course the context is very important and to understand it we must, at times, input entire previous and consecutive chapters. If only highlight writing mentioning that particular person would risk to make huge mistakes because, as Christianity has taught us well, even the Bible can do to say just about anything you want - compare Matthew 4: 5-7 In doing so, speaking of judgment, we might see as "the way of Jehovah" means to do righteousness and judgment, as the "breastplate of judgment" did robe of the High Priest and so on. Writing two or three keywords to all scriptures united by the same person, we have to learn many things on God Almighty even if they have to directly to do with what we were looking for . Let us not forget what we're looking for and why. Maybe we can set aside this information and resume them at another time. It is not excluded that a subject takes us somewhere else but for now we do not lose sight of the goal. We're trying to figure out if death really gates sin and if so you can not go to trial for the sins committed before he died. Going forward we will find Matthew chapters 5 to 23 (part highlighted in yellow), and here we begin to find something strange about current understanding. Matthew 7: 2, for example, says "because with what judgment judge, you will be judged, and the measure with which you measure, it shall be measured to you" and the question that should come to mind is "When? When will we be judged to the extent that we judged? ". The only way to make this statement of the Lord coincide with the official intention is to deduce that we will all be judged in this way before his death but also with this hypothesis things do not add up. Meanwhile, Jehovah does not put on trial the people of the first century (as is with us today) and if he did ... what's the point if then death would all be cleansed from sin and start from scratch ? That 'it s what we have been taught, right? Continuing towards the next write, we read that "the Day of Judgment it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that city" - Matthew 10:15 Okay, we're told that Jesus used a hyperbole but we chose the Concordance because of its neutrality! Reading simply the context of Matthew 10, it does not seem that we should read something other than what is written simply. However we put aside even this writing, along with its context, and we score two or three keywords. Continuing in this way will come to light many other details. If the emerging framework goes to "bump" against our understanding, what should we do? Maybe we should "pretend nothing" thinking that is not our business, that there are people chosen specifically for these things, it is better not find out the "Pandora's box" because what we might discover could be very different from what we have been taught? This would denote love and loyalty to our religion, not against the Word of God - 2 Samuel 22:26: John 17:17 Collide with something different from what we have been taught reveals that there is more at heart - Matthew 6:21; 22:37 They make an honest examination of conscience those who, rather than questioning their own beliefs, they said they " can not follow the logic of the articles" . Is this really the problem? If, as mentioned, the picture that emerges seems to bump into one of our doctrine, then we have to go see what this doctrine is based. We all agree that the Bible does not contradict itself, is not it? Always following the same method we get to the crux of the dispute: " For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin" - Romans 6: 7 What, then? It is a contradiction? Just as we have done so far, we look at the context. If we make the effort to read without preconceptions context we will see how Paul speaks of death compared to sin (verse 2) that we all were baptized in the death of Jesus (verse 3), and said that we were indeed buried with him (verse 4). There seems honestly literal language? How many of us have been buried with Christ in baptism? In addition, "we know that our old self was put to the pole with [him], so that our sinful body might be made inactive" - Romans 6: 6 Has anyone killed us when we are baptized? It 'clear that Paul is doing a lot easier than it might seem speech. If we appreciate the solemnity of baptism, we will prove to be dead with reference to sin (ie, not sinning anymore). In fact, since we are baptized we started to live a new life. From other scriptures we understand that it is not possible to "sin no more" but relying redemption and continuing to make every earnest effort, we can have a clear conscience before God. All this talk is not about the dead ones literally but in fact is the example that Paul has to make sense. But "the wages sin pays is death" .... What, then? We are once again at the head point? Absolutely not, because writing mentions the obvious: the sin leads to death. This means that in order for sin to be paid must remain in that condition - compare James 1:15 Comparing each write in their context is really a complete picture of the matter. Sin leads to death. From dead, of course, there is no longer any sin. If there were no resurrection , no one would answer for their sins. In the future, however, there will be a resurrection and that the time will respond to it - compares John 5:29 This makes us understand that Jesus was not doing hyperbole when he spoke of Sodom and Gomorrah, the profound reason why we use the term "salary" as if sin is a debt and other interesting details. And of course, this understanding does not conflict with the doctrine of the ransom because maybe not all have noticed that it is death to take away sin, then it is not the blood of Christ to do so - compares Romans 6:23 And 'death to take away sin, or is the blood of Christ? Let this simple question. If it is the blood of Christ to take away sin, those who will take advantage of the ransom will not in court - John 5:24 This topic was covered in the article entitled "Death erases really sins?" at the following link  http://attenzioneallaprofezia.blogspot.it/2017/06/la-morte-cancella-davvero-i-peccati.html  As we have achieved this goal? We had to become experts in ancient greek, we consulted hundreds of ancient manuscripts, asked for advice to various scholars, learned something from other religions or have been around the world? Absolutely not (if we did, we'd be back with more confusion than before). We have only compared the writings in context. To understand the Bible, we used the work of better consultation, the most accurate, the most objective, the most accurate : the Bible. Surely it is challenging but not difficult. Any of us can compare scripture is not it? In this way also our wisdom (presumed) passes in the second floor - 2 Corinthians 3: 4-6 What will come of it it will show what the Bible says: It is all we really need. However the human being, has a strange emotional need to complicate your life. Really such a simple method can help to reveal the Book of God? This question can only be answered with facts. With that the assumptions made at the beginning in mind , let's see what goals have been achieved and why we can be reasonably confident of being on the right track. Each subject reported below has been treated in older articles. To "make sure of all things" the reader is invited to look for these items and see if they are in harmony with Scripture.  Thanks to Jehovah, we realized that ...  1) Babylon the Great is the modern nation of Israel, NOT the world empire of false religion, and this makes logical many things including the fact that it will see only after the Lord's day and ride the UN - compares Revelation 17: 3  2) Its destruction precedes Armageddon and not the great tribulation - see Revelation 16:12, 13; 19: 11-16  3) The horsemen of the apocalypse of war, famine and deadly plague are led into battle by Jesus Christ (it is his "arrows") and this is in keeping with many judgments of the past where Jehovah has used the pagan nations - see Revelation 6: 1, 2, 3, 5, 7 and Psalm 45: 1-6  4) The first plagues of Revelation indiscriminately affect God's people as the people of the world just as happened during the plagues of Egypt.  5) There will be a world war that will bring down the king of the south and this harmonizes both Daniel and the last and only power that we see in Revelation and which so far has been erroneously identified as the Anglo-American empire.  6) The Revelation trumpets are sequential, and then is written in chronological order - compare 1 Corinthians 15:51, 52; Revelation 11:11, 12, 15  7) The anointed did not start to rise again in 1919 but will start to rise again at the sound of the seventh trumpet, shortly after the killing of two witnesses in sackcloth (future event).  8) The war in heaven break out soon after the ringing of the seventh trumpet, and will last about 30 days. These are also the "days shortened for the elect" in the likeness of what happened in the first century.  9) At the end of the war Satan will be thrown on the ground and from that moment can only act for 42 months (1260 days), which is a short period of time. 10) These are the 42 months of the great tribulation period.  11) At the end of the 1260 days of great tribulation will start Armageddon (with the fall of Babylon the Great), which will last 45 days.  12) Before Armageddon God he will lead his people to "Edom" and "Moab" that is, in a free zone where their lives and prepare to cross the Promised Land. The literal repopulation of Israel (after the destruction that has liberated from Babylon the Great) harmonises the scriptures that say that the people of Israel would be rejected but the nation was inhabited from generation to generation as the nation chosen by God to reside His Name. This situation makes us understand what it refers to writing when he says that the king of the north "will be troubled by news from the east and from the north" because it will come to know that God's people survived his fury and now is reaching promised land in fulfillment of Bible prophecy.  13) The War of the Great Day of God Almighty will take place in a relatively small area of the earth but it will be the greatest war in history where they will die the kings of the earth and their armies.  14) The Jerusalem Above is the organizational part of God's people and not heavenly organization made up of faithful spirit creatures and loyal men. This explains how it is possible that Satan tries to "drown her" spewing a river of water behind her. This awareness helps us to understand many basic things such as what is the one people of God on earth, because Christ is called "son of man" and the depth of meaning of Genesis 3:15 prophecy. 14 a ) The Above Jerusalem, towards the end of satanic system, will be led by members of the great crowd and be nourished by God to the end.  15) Armageddon will destroy the wild beast, the false prophet, all those who have the mark of the false prophet, who has opposed true Christians etc. There will be destroyed all people nor all the nations, apart from the dominant power that will end up in the lake of fire, the other kingdoms will be "removed the domain" but an extension of life will be granted for a time and a season. This period refers after Armageddon and until the end of the millennium . This awareness helps us to understand how is it that Satan's bait to mislead "the nations which are in the four corners of the earth" after a thousand years of sinking and to understand who is Gog of Magog and how he can "check" in the middle of the Millennial Kingdom  And many other things (the original post had a list of 26 important subjects but the article would become long, boring and certainly confusing for those who come to this post for the first time).  Article wanted to highlight a simple concept as it is profound. The Bible was also written for you. You can understand it. If you will have the intellectual honesty to get back fully into question, they will come to understand many things. Do not be afraid to find things very different from what we have been taught. Paradoxically, although this process has called into question some doctrines and virtually all the prophecies , has also shown that there is only one people of God on earth and it is this . According to the prophecies of this people it will be disciplined for this reason. Know the prophecies will allow us to not be shocked when these things begin to come true. The prophecy enables us to see beyond the darkness that is going to get even giving us the chance to help others. The prophecy, among other things, says that at one point "knowledge will become abundant." We will be among those who have insight and who will enjoy the blessings future? By our attitude, we decide it even now. If we continue to appreciate the Word of God above all else humbly asking Him to enlighten us to understand it, we will not be disappointed - Job 36:22; Psalm 119: 99  Footnote. The article is not meant to imply that, following such a method, you can not make mistakes. Even you do not want to diminish the importance of Hebrew or Ancient greek but today will be provided with many versions of the Bible that nornalmente you need to compare multiple versions to understand what fits best not with our preconceptions but with the context. The harmony of the Bible, alone, is able to refute all acts speeches to demonstrate unbiblical beliefs.  Plaese, visit https://attenzioneallaprofezia.blogspot.it/     Â
  9. The fact of the matter is that after having personally studied the Bible and meditating on it, certain decisions should be left to the conscience of each individual - 2 Corinthians 1:24
  10. This is roughly the map that indicates the sequence of events. There are many other details that have not been written but it was not possible to write everything. It's incomplete. Before criticizing or screaming "at the apostate", take the Bible and compare all the scriptures mentioned. Enlarge the image well. Good meditations at all
  11. The people of God, in the past, believed many wrong things about his God and his purposes, and yet remained the people of God. The people of Judah believed that they had contracted a "pact with death" and believed that Jehovah would not have them never punished because they had the Temple. On many occasions the Israelites did wrong and had misguided ideas about God's personality. So the point is not "change religion" because there is only one people of God. Paradoxically some "people in the world" can be better and more spiritual than some brothers. In the Bible, we have many examples of non-Israeli people (Raab, Rut, the Roman soldier who shows more faith in the Israelites, the Syrian-Phoenician woman with his damned daughter, etc.) who were blessed for their faith and, on the contrary, many belonging to God's people who were rejected for taking everything for granted and not really "seeking Jehovah". We must not think that every thought that is not in line with the governing body is apostasy or serves to weaken the faith. We carefully study the Bible without having a stinging attitude towards any human being. The Bible was written for each of us
  12. How will it end the proscription of Jehovah's Witnesses?  I wish to state that the purpose of this article, like all the ones posted so far, is not to see who is right. Humanly speaking, we are all brothers and neighbors to the Russians when even a single brother suffers, we all should suffer with them - Romans 24:15 There is no controversy desire towards the Governing Body, and even on their current scriptural understanding. However, even the author of this article recognizes the supreme importance of paying attention to scripture and explain how, this, decodes current events. Aware that the current situation in Russia will have to expand to other nations (and that includes ours), with the utmost humility and attention we must approach to Scripture without hiding uncomfortable truths. This, despite the delicate and far from cheerful topic, will show how Jehovah knows everything and has everything under control. What can we expect in the near future, particularly in relation to the proscription of Jehovah's Witnesses? The proscription of Jehovah's Witnesses and the preaching is a Bible prophecy?  As we all know the situation that has developed in Russia in the latter period it is anything but cheerful. The April 20, 2017 the work of our brothers has been declared illegal and the recent appeal, which occurred on July 17 in Moscow, has done nothing but confirm this unjust sentence. This judgment, in addition to imposing the closing of the administrative center with all the consequences, forbids all religious activities. The official story is that the decision of the Supreme Court is located at the following link  As recognized by the brother Anderson appealed the options, at least in Russia, they have ended. There are no degrees or higher possibility of further appeals in this nation. Brother Mark Sanderson acknowledged, in one of the last video you can find in tv.jw.org site, which because of this ruling is to be expected that religious persecution increases. At Brother Lett question whether there is still a possibility of appeal, Brother Sanderson replied that he would turn to the European Court of Human Rights. With the so-called "provisional measures" the European Court could intervene even trying to block the ruling. Obviously it is not at all certain that a judgment in favor of Jehovah's Witnesses by the European Court of Justice to have the least effect on a sovereign state. The European Court certainly can not decide for a sovereign state, nor a state like Russia, but it is a possibility. So Lett specifically asked, "Mark, you see a parallel in the Bible with the events they have witnessed in the Supreme Court?" Sanderson responded by quoting Matthew 5:11: "... lying against you will say all sorts of evil things" and on this there is little to argue that, whatever they say, and minus any errors, you really ridiculous to compare Jehovah's witnesses to terrorist groups. So Brother Sanderson talked about the excellent experience in the various embassies and how they astound themselves because "their Jehovah's Witnesses" were receiving such treatment. "Jehovah's Witnesses have faced the concentration camps in the Nazi era; it has not stopped the exile in Siberia; we did not stop the hard labor in the Gulag ... and all this thanks to the protection of our God, Jehovah" ( these were the words of brother Sanderson). It 'great to hear this declaration of trust in our loving Father, Jehovah. We all know that, whatever happens, Jehovah will find the right solution in the best and the right time. As mentioned, he has everything under control. However doi every one of us knows very well that whatever idea we can do about a particular issue, it is always the Word of God that we must address. It is absolutely true that our dear brothers, in history, "they faced the concentration camps, were not stopped by exile in Siberia, were not stopped by the hard labor in the Gulag" and all this has happened thanks to ' Jehovah's help, but what we really should ask is ... "what is Jehovah's will for us in the time we're living in?" By studying the history of Israel it is not a mystery to assert that they, many times, fed false expectations about the will of Jehovah. So another question you should ask is ... "What is happening in Russia these days is a specific Biblical prophecy or is part of the general hatred by all nations as mentioned Brother Sanderson?" This question is crucial because if the proscription in Russia is one of many "diatribes" caused by this world, no different from what happened in Mali or Burundi, then the period we are living is not particularly relevant. This situation will have ups and downs, we will be downsized or abolished and we have to wait for something else, something, to see fulfilled prophecies. If this event is similar to what happened in the past, then it's all in doubt (also time) and we have to find something else to observe and which make our scriptural reflections. On the other hand if this event has something special, that is scripturally relevant, then it is up to us to dig in the Scriptures to understand what is really happening, why, and where does that lead. First we try to isolate those involved trying not preclude us to explanations other than those to which we are accustomed. The subjects involved are basically two: the Russian nation and our brothers (recognized and characterized by the work of preaching). To begin with we can see how in Daniel are talking about some horn would have "thrown down the truth" and that the daily sacrifice would be phased out, which, as we know, is the work of preaching - Daniel 8: 9- 12 Who is this horn? Whatever idea we may have about it, we must take into account the words the angel addressed to Daniel. Speaking of this horn, among other things explains the angel ... "And in his heart he will give great tunes, and when freedom from anxieties bring to ruin many. It will rise against the Prince of princes, but he shall be broken without hand "- Daniel 8:25 The official intention identifies this horn as the Anglo-American empire but at this point we have a scriptural issue because from Chapter 11 and Chapter 12 of Daniel we understand clearly that it is the king of the north to be "broken without hand" by Michele - see Daniel 11: 40-44; 12: 1 So, unless we do not want to assert that the book of Daniel it contradicts, or the Anglo-American empire is the king of the north, or the horn may not be the Anglo-American empire. It is the king of the north to suppress the daily sacrifice, to throw truth to the ground, so the only thing to do is to try to understand the identity of this king. Who embodies, today, this king? They are still made outlandish assumptions * (see footnote) but it is clear that to answer this question we must always be borrowed from the Scripture. Seeing by what logic the various rival kings have changed their identity over the centuries, we can immediately weed out many possibilities. The king of the north may not appear at random. As you can also see in the mirror summary of the book "Pay Attention to Daniel's Prophecy!" on pages 228 and 246 (Italian edition), f inora we managed to ricostru ire the identity of their king because or the bloodline or the occupied territories. We pay attention to this. At one point, the identity of the two kings changes (see chapter fourteen) and the whole question is played on the territory of Syria. Syria depicts King of the North while Egypt the king of the south. However, with the intervention of Rome between the two contenders, Antiochus IV (Syrian) should abandon its claims on Egypt. This puts an end to the rivalry between the two kings. Less than a hundred years after Syria became a Roman province. E 'for this reason that we are able to identify Rome as king of the north: the political / geographical connection. It is not the power to identify it as such, although, of course, be a king can face a confrontation with his powerful enemy. Roma not appeared from nowhere drove off, so to speak, the last king of the north (in this case, Syria). The various kings, therefore, may change his identity (the bloodline is not binding) but the next power, to assume the role of the new king, it has to start from the last conquered territory. At least that's the logical thread that is visible around the guide to Daniel. In addition to this it is obvious to assert that the identity of the two kings is not interchangeable . This means that the king of the north can not become king of the south and vice versa. Unlike this distinction it would be meaningless. Following this logic we come to the last two historical re: the Anglo-American Empire and the Third Reich of Hitler (see the book already mentioned on page 268). So far we all agree, is not it? This is also the official understanding. Since it has not been a single dominant king in all the earth, and is therefore not Armageddon arrived, we have to see who won this war in order to understand who their king. Who are the "kings" of the victorious World War II, ie those that led to the defeat of the Third Reich? We can see more on page 257 of the same book. In this photo there are three characters: Winston Churchill (British Prime Minister). Franklin Roosvelt (US President) and Iosif Stalin (Soviet Premier). We have seen that the king of Daniel are not interchangeable. If we have established that the Anglo-American empire is the king of the south, it must remain so. So the logic is very simple and the picture looks even want to take the answer. The United Kingdom, represented by Churchill, may not be the next king of the north and can not be the United States represented by Roosevelt. They are both the king of the south and those remain. That's why all the diatribes on the identity of the king of the north are absolutely useless. Only Russia can be the king of the north regardless of whether today may have a different geography and though there are many post-Soviet states. Russia was not incorporated from any other power, as happened in Syria, and therefore no other nation could have taken its place. There are many other interesting details that go perfectly with this nation;   So Russia is the horn which Daniel saw in reference to the last days and is the nation that has abolished the daily sacrifice. This is precisely what happened April 20, 2017, or should we wait for some other development? We do not know. It may be that there is a twist, and perhaps the European Court will manage to overturn the decision of the Russian Supreme Court. If so, then the abolition of the daily sacrifice (described in Daniel) is still a future event , however due to this king. We can only wait and assess the events as they happen. If this suppression is actually the one described in the scriptures ... what can we expect? Let us allow the Scripture to speak. Daniel 8: 9-12 says, "And one of them popped another horn, small, and it was great toward the south and the east and toward the Decoration. He went on to become great until the army of heaven, so that dropped to the ground part of the army and of the stars, and trampled on. and it gave great arias to the Prince of the army, and he was taken off the [sacrifice] continuous, and he was thrown down the established place of his sanctuary. and gradually it was given a military itself, along with the [sacrifice] continuously, because of transgression, and continued to throw truth to the ground, and acted and had success. " According to these words are we to expect a miraculous deliverance, a "protection" as well as his brother flashed Sanderson? Maybe a political change in our favor? Unfortunately not. On the contrary, comparing other scriptures it understands that this king "will reduce the powerful ruined" including the "holy people" and act effectively. The only way to understand whether this proscription is exactly as described in Daniel, is to see if it will expand to other nations. Furthermore, if this proscription is that described in Daniel, what it is to say that on April 20 are started the 2300 evenings and mornings - Daniel 8:13, 14, 26 What will happen in these 2300 days? What will happen at the end of these 2300 days? If you're curious, go see the articles on this topic. We pay attention to the prophecy. We pray constantly, and we trust in Jehovah.  Footnote *: Today we discuss whether the king of the north will be China but for the reasons listed above that is not possible. Of course it is possible that China will ally with Russia widening in this way the king of the north identities just as the UK did in his time, with the United States. No chance for Isis, the European Union or some other power that, ultimately, may ally itself with Russia.  Â
  13. This whole discussion is not intended to shake the faith. On the contrary, the fact that Jehovah punishes His people, paradoxically, shows what his people are. The people who bear his name (Jehovah) and who thrive "good news" throughout the inhabited earth is the people of God, okay? This is the people of God. Nevertheless, the people of God also had many misguided expectations about the future. The people of God were often punished by God. One of the reasons why you will be punished (not the only one) is because you have not really paid attention to His Word. For JW insider. Yes, I mean punishment will serve to bring His people back with mercy. Punishment serves salvation for many of us. However, punishment may be more serious than what many expect, no one expects punishment, is not it?)
  14. Dear JW insider, I congratulate you for the accuracy of the information. I did not want to go too far into the merit that it would not seem too controversial. Since we are talking about revising official intentions, it is obvious that it is a delicate topic. I hope you will want to examine every statement in the light of the Bible and not in the light of certain authorities. There will be no new intentions from the official channel. Wait and see. Prophecy clearly says that Jehovah will punish his own people exactly as it has happened in the past. So I encourage you to personally know what the Bible teaches and what will happen in the near future
  15. A name. A mistery. Babylon the Great.    QUESTIONS TO TELL IF THE BABYLON THE GREAT IT'S A NATION  In the Bible there are hundreds of references to the destruction of Babylon and Israel unfaithful . They are also parallels between Israel and many hundreds of Babylon (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel ...). Being accustomed to make parallels with Christianity and the world empire of false religion, every time we read "Israel will be destroyed!" we read, in fact, "Christianity will be destroyed!" and every time we read "Babylon will be destroyed!" we read "The world empire of false religion will be destroyed." Now the question is ... "If in a specific step the Bible meant that Israel would be destroyed its meaning Israel ... what we would find it written?" Obviously we would find written "Israel will be destroyed!" In the end it comes to understanding if, whenever we speak of the destruction of Babylon and / or Israel after the day of the Lord , there is at least a chance that you are referring to Israel, that modern Israel is a literal nation. What is the biggest counterfeit of God's people today? Christianity and the modern nation of Israel? Before 1948 this hypothesis, and these questions would have been meaningless. Any assumptions would have ruled out simply because Israel did not exist . Since May 1948, however, Israel exists and we must understand basically three things. 1) See if it is possible that Babylon the Great is a nation 2) If so, see if Israel corresponds to the description that makes the Bible 3) Compare with current understanding, and see which of the two parties, in the light of Scripture and not of desires or personal ideas , is more likely to be.  Question 1 Babylon the Great can be a nation?  Meanwhile, remember that Babylon the Great, throughout history, has been "identified" with many nations and for many different reasons. Imperial Rome, papal Rome, USA, UK, USSR etc. Many people and different religious groups gave different explanations but none of them has ever stood the test of fire , and that is the scrutiny of the Scriptures - I Thessalonians 5:21 What about us? One of the explanations in the publications of the Slave that Babylon the Great can not be a literal nation is the fact that "committing fornication with the kings of the earth". An intensifier of this statement would be the fact that both kings and merchants mourn its destruction. Finally it would be not a nation because they say it misleads the entire inhabited earth through her "spiritistic practice." That's it? Let's see. In Isaiah 23: 15-17 we speak of Tire as a "forgotten prostitute" and therefore, as such, " commits prostitution with all the kingdoms of the earth on the surface of the ground ." Tire was a nation, not a religion or a religious system - Romans 15.4 So a nation can be described in the Bible, in the act of committing prostitution with all the kingdoms of the world and remain a nation. Prostitution may have to do with trade or with acts of injustice and bloodshed , and not necessarily with religion. - Nahum 3: 1-4 In particular, the shooting of prostitution has nothing to do with false religion because if they were, Jehovah would not be considered "holy" his compensation - Isaiah 23:18 The "prostitution" may have to do simply with the alliance and trust in other nations, as reported many times in the Bible when Israel and Judah showed allying with infidels pagan nations. It is clear, therefore, that if this nation is likened to a prostitute loss of this harlot would cause pain to his lovers (the nations with which it has committed prostitution and merchants grew rich from it) just as ancient Israel "tried joy "for the shooting of prostitution gifts and not because shooting was a religion or the religion of Tire. A king can "mourn" the loss of a political ally (and therefore by the fall of a nation) and a large merchant may weep at the drop of a commercial ally (which can be large or small but definitely rich nation). So the reasons that "Babylon the Great" can not be a nation because kings and merchants mourning his passing are not valid. What, though, the strongest affirmation in reference to Babylon The Great namely that "through its practice spiritism have been led astray all the nations"? This statement in particular has led many to think that it was a religious empire (for many sects of Christianity Babylon the Great is Catholicism and even some Catholics is Vatican II). First, we must realize that all the empires of the past have resorted to spiritualist practices, and this is also true for empires modern so-called atheists. Pharaoh opposed to Moses his "practitioners of magic " and Nebuchadnezzar it was virtually surrounded - Exodus 7:11 - Daniel 2: 2 The same thing can be said of Assyria, Syria, Persia, Media etc. So if the Bible, talking about a literal nation, saying that "uses" or "practical magic divination", would not say anything exceptional. We also know, from the study of the Scriptures, that nations are governed by demons who are misleading the entire inhabited earth, and that during the wars are not only human beings involved - Daniel 10:13 We can assume that the demons have no or given special power to a nation, and this has, today, "a kingdom over the kings of the earth"? - Revelation 17:18 also see Luke 4: 5-7 Without forcing any interpretation, logic and Scripture does not allow us to rule "Babylon the Great" among nations.  Question 2 "Babylon the Great can be the literal and modern Israel?"  In Revelation 17: 1, 2 says that Babylon the Great "sits on many waters." We know that the waters mean "peoples and crowds and nations and languages" Israel "sits on many waters" as it is surrounded by many peoples and nations that bear the pain ( "sit on it" can also mean against the will of the neighboring peoples themselves). In Isaiah 8: 5-8 we speak of the powerful Assyrian army as a "devastating waters"; so not always the "waters" are a symbol of protection - Isaiah 8: 5-8 It was put there by force by the UN against the wishes of many neighboring countries. He sits also "on many waters" because his position is due to the nations that make up the United Nations (Babylon the Great sits also on the wild beast scarlet) which, besides having established where still, protect it militarily. The armies of Assyria are likened to "devastating waters," then we can say that also sit on many armies? - Revelation 17: 3, 16 It 'also worth noting that the nation of Israel is actually located in the "crossroads" of three continents: Europe, Africa, Asia. If I wanted to find a literal nation located on the "many waters" (ie peoples and nations and tribes and languages) both geographically and politically, no ' other nation would correspond better to the modern nation of Israel. The harlot riding a beast. In Revelation 17: 3 we read, "And the angel took me in the power of the spirit into a wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns." The nation of Israel is already in a desert and ride the wild beast scarlet color, as we know, the League or the company from the abyss rise Nations under the UN name Israel exists, behind the Anglo-American empire pushed through and by the United Nations since 1948. G them earlier historical events and following the creation of the state of Israel confirms that the Jewish people have ridden the wild beast in scarlet before returning to being a nation. Mother of all harlots. Revelation 17: 4-5: "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and was adorned with gold and precious stone and pearls and had in her hand a golden cup full of disgusting things and the unclean things of her fornication. And on her forehead was a name written, a mystery: 'Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth' ". If we accept the possibility that a nation is likened to a prostitute (exactly like Tire), then the nation of Israel is the "mother of all harlots" because he committed fornication to a greater extent than any other nation in the world. How can we tell? If the harlot riding the wild beast scarlet, which, as we know, is the League of Nations, is supposed to have committed fornication with all the countries participating in the United Nations. Indeed, its very existence as a nation is due to his political lovers so, to continue to exist , must commit prostitution in excess and continuously. No 'other nation can compare with her as acts of prostitution because no' other nation has a strong need to please the United Nations to continue to exist. It 'also possible that in the Bible is described as a prostitute because it is not a real " queen" but a stretch . It is an empire cut on purpose to a prostitute. The woman is also "arrayed in purple and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stone ..." then you simply dressed like a queen but the colors purple and scarlet are still the colors of luxury and royal power and this would strengthen the ' idea that you are talking of a kingdom, a literal nation. Likewise the beast that the harlot rides is scarlet and the beast, as we know, the League or the League of Nations (all UN members represent literal nations). The scarlet color is the wild beast that the harlot, is significant. Drunk blood of the saints. Writing goes on to say "And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of saints and witnesses of Jesus." Israel has enormous guilt of blood and Jesus referred to this very nation when he said, "In order to be on you all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye between killing in the sanctuary and the altar "- Matthew 23:35 - Luke 11:50, 51 So Jesus himself identifies Israel, not another nation , as responsible for the payment of "all the righteous blood" (also compared the words of Stephen reported in Acts 7: 51-53). The book "Insight", under the heading "Babylon the Great", correctly points out that not all Christians were persecuted by the Pharisees and the Jews themselves have suffered, in turn, a great persecution. However, even Abel was killed by a Pharisee, and even by some religious minister. Besides the millions of deaths caused by the empire communist, atheist, they could hardly be held up to the false religion. We can assume that Jehovah and Jesus regard as particularly responsible for those who have "know God" and, despite this, they commit unspeakable crimes? In this perfectly fits the nation of Israel. - Hosea 8: 2 - Amos 3: 2 Condolences for the end of Babylon. Revelation 18: 9-14 says, "And the kings of the earth committed fornication with her and lived in unbridled luxury will weep and beat themselves in grief over her when they see the smoke of her burning, 10  and will stand at a distance for fear of her torment and say, 'Woe, doom, the great city, Babylon the strong city, because in one, now is it!' 11  "And the travelers merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their full load, 12  full load of gold and silver and precious stone and pearls and fine linen and purple and silk and scarlet, and every citron wood and every sort of ivory object and every sort of object of most precious wood, and of brass and iron and marble, 13  and cinnamon and Indian spice and incense and perfumed oil and frankincense and wine and olive oil and fine flour and wheat and cattle and sheep and horses and carriages and slaves and human souls. 14  Yes, the fine fruit that your soul longed has departed from thee, and all things delicious and splendid things have perished from you, and you will find it " As we saw earlier, both kings of the earth and travelers traders suffer from the disappearance of their lover. Unlike any other nation, the destruction of Israel would bring despair and "misfortune" among leaders and among the traders all over the world. Why? Because the Jewish people is the owner of the world's largest banks, almost all the gold, oil, the largest global corporations and everything you can imagine. The major world powers (including the United States, USSR and China) have taken advantage of abundant loans to wage war with other nations and to build imposing and colossal structures (such as the Suez Canal). Simply do some 'research to find out which and how many ways the owners of the world's largest banks have been involved in almost all the wars of the last two centuries and probably much further back in time. The words of Revelation 18: 11-14 that talk about 'full load of gold and silver and precious stone and pearls and fine linen and purple and silk and scarlet, and all citron wood and every sort of ivory object and every sort of most precious wood, and of brass and iron and marble object, and cinnamon and Indian spice and incense and perfumed oil and frankincense and wine and olive oil and fine flour and wheat and cattle and sheep and horses and carriages and slaves and human souls' are significant. Imagining the global economic consequences for the collapse of 80% of all existing banks and thus the immediate and simultaneous failure of thousands of companies all over the world ... one might conclude that a crisis of this magnitude does not correspond at all the history of man - Matthew 24:21 Really the kings of the earth travelers and traders around the world would be right to beat their chests, to mourn and cry, "Woe!" "Come out of her, my people." Revelation 18: 4 says, "And I heard another voice from heaven saying, 'Come out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.'" If Babylon the Great is the modern nation of Israel, then it is easy to understand who is facing this urgent appeal: our dear brothers present in the nation of Israel who are also "a remnant to be saved." If you remain there, would receive part of her plagues as a result of the attack enraged the United Nations. This possibility is to be evaluated very seriously. This would mean, moreover, that the destruction of Jerusalem in 537 BCE and again in 70 CE would have a further and definitive fulfillment . The third (Revelation 4: 8; 8:13; 16:13, 19 - Ezekiel 21:14). The number two question asked: "The literal people of modern Israel, match the description that the Bible makes Babylon the Great ?" If like it or not what is written above , and it may be a "domino effect" on other interpretations, this is in keeping both with the secular history ch and with Scripture. The answer, then, is yes.  Question 3 Which of the two parties, in the light of Scripture and not of desires or personal ideas , you are more likely to be?  Honestly, all the description that the Bible makes Babylon the Great, corresponds closely to the false religion and so it is very difficult to understand if the Bible wants to tell a literal nation or false religion as a whole. The blatant immorality, extreme violence, the desire for domination, spiritual prostitution, the arrogance and presumption ... are all features world empire of false religion, as well as the current Israel. The clues, however, should be more than enough, when viewed without preconceptions, to understand the subject. Following listing of evidence and comparison subjects.  literal Nation of Israel (NLI)  world empire of false religion (IMFL)  NLI He sits on the scarlet beast (UN) The nation of Israel has been put there by the United Nations. There is thanks to the UN that has established and protects militarily. IMFL He sits on the scarlet beast (UN?) It should not ride the wild beast that ascends from the sea since the false religion has existed since Nimrod times?  NLI He sits on many waters (tribes, peoples, languages). The nations that make up the UN include many nations, tribes, peoples and languages. The waters are also "armies": the UN is a multiple military power. Israel is also at the crossroads of three continents. IMFL Side on many waters (tribes, peoples, languages). False religion has always been part of human history and included every people, tribe, nation and language. These waters have always been a protection for religion.  NLI Mother of all harlots / Fornication Israel commits fornication more than any other nation. To continue to exist should please the UN and all political and existing business partners. No other nation in the world is obliged to do this in his own measure because, other nations, existed before and may continue to exist even without UN backing. IMFL Mother of all harlots / Fornication Christianity claims to be "people of God" but it is adulterous because of his friendship with the world. Its practices are of Babylonian origin. He cheats on "husbandly owner," Jehovah. And 'prostitute. Besides Christianity, however, Babylon the great would include every religion that away from God (this includes all non-Christian religions including tribal). Why, then, it is seen as a prostitute? Jehovah has never considered the husbandly owner of nations like Egypt, Assyria and Persia Media?  NLI Luxury rampant The nation of Israel includes almost all bankers in the world. The largest corporations in the world. Posside gold and oil wells; restaurants, companies etc. It possesses weapons and world organizations of various kinds. The most expensive works of art in the world are owned by Jews. Their commercial power is simply beyond belief. IMFL Luxury rampant False religion, with some exceptions, has always adorned with precious things. Temples, churches, statues, shrines, paintings ... works of art without number and without value. It also reduced in poverty millions of people for a fee every "spiritual service". Even false religion living in the lap of luxury.  NLI Bane of the rulers The fall of Israel would lead the rulers shouting "evil" because they have always done business with them (the sale of weapons to every illicit trafficking). Including the Secret Service. The fall of a partner like that would throw many countries into a deep despair. IMFL Bane of the rulers The global fall of the empire of false religion would lead the rulers shouting doom because of his influence on the crowds but only in some parts of the world (ie Islam). In all Western nations you do not understand why they should shout "misfortune." Religion has always taken from the people and he never shared anything with the host city. The influence that religion had even in Western countries has virtually eliminated after the Second World War. No Western nation has been enriched through religion. On the contrary, scandals such as those of "The bank Ambrosiano" have impoverished nations further. The rulers of the nations "atheistic" hardly would cry at all "doom" to his downfall.  NLI Woe traders Israel is the largest trading partner in the world. Whatever international trader would be in trouble losing a partner like that. The same applies to all the smaller traders who depend, in whole or in part, from the larger ones. The fall of Israel is an economic tsunami unprecedented. IMFL Woe traders Because of its art and its opulent buildings, art dealers would cry "doom." It 'hard to imagine a trader of another kind (electronics, space research, etc.) shout "misfortune." The exponents of false religion, however, play the stock market and have many actions in many different activities for which you can not be categorical.  NLI spiritualistic practices The nation of Israel has its "magic practitioners" and most probably practice more than any other nation magic (think of the Jewish Kabbalah). We know from the scriptures that nations are governed by demons and thus may give the power to a nation or person in particular - 17:18 Revelation; Luke 4: 5-7 The MFL spiritualistic practices The world empire of false religion, by its nature, is "misleading all nations through his spiritualistic practices". All the bloodiest wars were fought because of religious conditioning.  N LI Blood of the saints and of all those slain The Jewish people, as owners of the world's largest banks, has stirred up a lot of wars, even recent ones, for their own economic purposes. Israel is embroiled in the secret services, in international arms trafficking and everything imaginable. It is historically proven that some of the assassinations more "important" have Jewish origins. Jesus identifies Israel as responsible for the payment of "all the righteous blood" - Matthew 23:35 - Luke 11:50, 51 We can assume that Jehovah and Jesus regard as particularly responsible for those who have "know God" and, despite this, they commit unspeakable crimes? - Hosea 8: 2 - Amos 3: 2 IMFL Blood of the saints and of all those slain The violence of false religion as a whole is evident and has no equal in any other country / organization. Having 6,000 years of crimes behind, is not comparable to anything else in known on earth.  NLI Come out of her my people In Israel, as in all the world, our brothers are active. If the UN is going to vent his fury on this nation (because of Jehovah's will) it is obvious and loving from God that He calls His people to come out. This would save a remnant, as reported several times in the Scriptures. This would be the third time that Jehovah destroys "his people" because with their actions show they are no longer his people - Deuteronomy 32: 5 - Revelation 4: 8; 8:13; 16:13, 19 - Ezekiel 21:14 IMFL Come out of her my people Being a symbolic nation can not literally see this spiritual exodus . The two subjects can not be compared. However, it is interesting to note that when Jehovah called his people from Babylon also saying not to be yoked and "do not touch anything unclean," they were already His people dedicated and baptized. His people had come away from a pagan nation (literal). They were not people who were part of another religion and that having good intentions, they would then dedicated baptized and becoming successively His people - II Corinthians 6: 14-18  Reflections  As written at the beginning of this discussion, in the Bible there are hundreds of parallels between Babylon and faithless Israel . Even the cup "full of disgusting things" from which the prostitute is inebriated remembers the utensils of Jehovah's temple. The question is what do we mean when we read these parallel. The table above shows both subjects have strengths and, at least in appearance, weaknesses. A strong point in favor of modern Israel is the fact that it ride the wild beast scarlet, and that is itself dressed in scarlet (which suggests a literal nation). A strong point of world empire of false religion is the shedding of blood; Although the state of Israel has a huge guilt of blood, of course you can not compare to 6000 years of abuse and violence attributable to false religion. However you should not make the mistake of thinking that it is the intensity of a clue to establish the identity of the subject. If anything is the amount of clues, even their totality. If only a small indication not match (and this was proven beyond doubt) apart from all the others, this would compromise the identity.  All of Jehovah's judgments, given in the Scriptures, beat upon peoples and nations literal and also sends plagues upon Egypt, which served to destroy / humiliate their false gods, however, had to fall on a specific country. Moreover, the war of Armageddon, destroying all the nations (which are governed by demons), automatically eliminate all forms of religion; If Babylon the Great was a nation of special interest , but still a nation, this would simply be a sign that the satanic system is about to reach its tragic end - Daniel 2:44  In the book "The prophecies of Isaiah" volume 1, page 202 paragraph 28 (in italian edition) contains Isaiah 19: 3 and it reads ... "Similarly, in the day of judgment, false religion will be unable to save this corrupt system of things." But if Egypt represents the world as a whole, we are already at Armageddon (Isaiah 19: 2 Jehovah puts "Egyptian against Egyptian") and the world empire of false religion (if it is Babylon the Great) was already destroyed . Now, if the world empire of false religion has been previously destroyed , in what sense "the people will resort to the worthless, the charmers and to the spirit mediums"? Only a world still steeped in religion, after the destruction of Babylon the Great, could "resort to the valueless gods."  The above might be in harmony with the writing of Zechariah 13: 4-6 which speaks of "the prophet" who will deny ever be? The Watchtower of July 15, 2015, the subtitle "The beginning of the great tribulation," says ... " Therefore it seems that even some members of the clergy will abandon their religious career and deny that he had ever been a part of false religion." Yet if for the Great adherents of Babylon simply "change his jacket" for their lives (which would make the majority of them, not having a true faith), it seems as if it has been "torn and completely burned with fire." It 'also difficult to imagine this "great mourning" since the majority of the clergy, especially of Christianity, would still be alive after the destruction of Babylon the Great.  The book "Revelation: its peak" in chapter 19 paragraph 29 says ... "Neither the caverns literal mountains nor the political and commercial organizations comparable to the mountains will provide economic security or assistance of another kind." However, even false worship in the Bible is related with the "high places" such as in Ezekiel 6: 1-5 (the high places that did not protect the unfaithful Israelites from the wrath of Jehovah). It 'possible that, in the day of Jehovah del'ira (so after the Great Tribulation) humans will seek protection in political, commercial institutions and religious?  Everything that follows is taken from the book "Babylon" and, to the extent possible, we will see if what he said you can apply it to the modern nation of Israel. Although the book is not updated all'intendimento current (later I will use the book "Revelation: its climax" as reference) reflections and principles on which it was based are still interesting and can provide food for thought.  From the book "Babylon the Great" (bf) Friday, September 8, 1922, an international assembly of non-sectarian Bible students in Cedar Point, Ohio, at a conference on "The Kingdom" at 9:30, they were told that they had to be witnesses of the Lord God, that witnesses Jehovah. The speaker, J. F. Rutherford, then president of the Society Watch Tower Bible and Tract cited the thousands of people gathered in assembly Isaiah 43: 8-12 and then went on to say: Thus we see that those of the temple class are clearly designated as witnesses of God at this time, to bring a message of consolation to the people, who came to the kingdom of heaven and that millions of people now living will never die. Thus we see that God's purpose that his name be magnified, that the people may know that he is Lord. Thus we see that God's purpose to have the earth a people in this time of distress, clearly marked as separate and distinct from all others, that stands like his witnesses, proclaiming boldly the message: "The kingdom of heaven is at hand! " . . . This is confirmed by the Lord in Matthew 24:14. Clearly it is then expressed as proof that the temple class must continue to declare this message of the kingdom until their earthly career is not over. They have to be his faithful witnesses until the walls of Babylon does not collapse to the ground. . . . Be faithful and true witnesses for the Lord. Advanced in the fight until every vestige of Babylon are not desolate. Proclaim the message far and wide. The world must know that Jehovah is God and that Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords. This is the day of days. Behold, the King reigns! You are his publicity agents. Thus announced, announced, announced the King and his kingdom. - Pages 336, 337 de La Watchtower (English) November 1, 1922.  Note: It was 1922 and did not exist and neither one imagined the birth of modern Israel, which, in fact, takes place May 14, 1948.  (Bf) Recall that the original Babylon was founded as a deviation from adoration of Jehovah's love and loyalty to him as God, as Babylon was established by a rebel who placed himself against. That rebel was stigmatized as "Nimrod mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah." Then the people of the pagan city they called the "Gate of God." However, Jehovah called the city Babel, meaning "Confusion", because it confused the language of the builders of the city and its tower. (Genesis 10: 8-10; 11: 5-9) Babel ( greek,Babylon) was never a Jewish city; It never was Jewish; It was never Messianic or Christian, since it was never the organization of Jehovah God. He was always against his chosen people, and so was against Sion. In the days of the dynasty of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon it had apparently swallowed the chosen nation of Israel "like a big snake" o dragone. (Jeremiah 51:34) The purpose of Babylon was to crack down on Israel.   Note: If Babylon has "swallowed" Israel now bears his name but it is a hoax. It's called "Israel" but Babylon. It makes sure to blend with Israel, the look of it.   (Bf) How Semitic world power for more than seventy years, Babylon was, of course, politics. It was militaristic. It was highly commercial. But it was remarkably religious  If Babylon the Great was a literal nation, the above description which nation would seem to describe today?  (Bf) As soon as the priests could Babylonians converted into money all animal sacrifices and all religious tithes that the people had every day on the altars, especially the things deteriorated quickly. Just like in the hometown of Abraham in Ur of the Chaldeans, the Templars authorities had their deposits required and directed their own shops. They felt good to invest their religious revenue and for this purpose they had, therefore, their own banks.  If it were a literal nation, which nation would seem to describe?  (Bf) What, then, Babylon the Great, whose announced by the fall of God in Revelation 14: 8? It must look like ancient Babylon in remarkable ways, especially in the time of his fall . Otherwise, the name would be inappropriate. First of all, ancient Babylon ruled an empire, the largest empire until that time, so that the line of the World Powers it was the Third World Power. There flourished policy, militarism, commercialism and religion, but religion predominated, especially during the dynasty of Nebuchadnezzar. His religion placed it against Zion or Jerusalem, where the Jewish kings sat on "Jehovah's throne" and where the temple built by King Solomon was the national center of worship of Jehovah.  If it were a literal nation, which nation would seem to describe?  (Bf) Although it is an empire religion, it became in itself commercial and political and formed alliances with the political and commercial elements of this kind worldwide.  These two lines, in some way, belie the claim that Babylon the Great is not also a religious empire (literal), political and trade exactly as it was ancient Babylon.  (Bf) Even Judaism has attached to Babylon the Great. In the first century, Jesus and his twelve apostles applied to traditional Judaism of their day Bible prophecies that refer to Babylon as a place of exile and captivity from which Jehovah's people was asked to leave. Nineteen centuries ago, when the Messiah came to Zion, traditional Judaism practically turned the whole nation against him. He kept his grip on her way Jewish prisoners. Up to this day, traditional Judaism has not changed. It still retains its Jewish prisoners away from the freedom that the promised Messiah.  (Bf) In 1914 CE Babylon the Great, or the world empire of the Babylonian religion, came to its most critical period in world history. Until then it had, as he said the angel of God, "did drink all the wine countries of the passion of her fornication" (Revelation 14: 8) He had made friends with the political rulers of this world and so had committed with their spiritual fornication. (James 4: 4) He had used his religious influence on worldly rulers to stay in power. He swung the support of its religionists in favor of the Gentiles worldly rulers. This had made the nations drink the "wine of the passion", that is, political oppression, trade and economic, religious persecution, the holy wars, religious wars, crusades, and wars of nations for purely political and commercial reasons. Such selfish wars Babylon the Great the sanctified, declaring that they were God's will, so that taking part would do his will.  If talking about a literal nation, that nation would reflect perfectly this description? Friendship with political leaders, religious influence on rulers to retain power, political oppression, the world trade and economic, holy wars for political and commercial reasons etc. There is also a contradiction (at least in appearance). If Babylon the Great falls for the first time in 1919, as can be seen riding the scarlet beast that is the League Of Nations created on June 28, 1919? Babylon the Great can be seen sitting only after the creation of the League and then fall in a period still later but not before.  (Bf) What, then, the image of the wild beast? Between World War I and World War II it was the League of Nations, which once had up to sixty members nations, as the worship of the image and the wild beast was then so great ...  Altr in apparent contr addition . Religion is nothing but "the form of worship." Now if Babylon the Great is the world empire of false religion (and therefore includes all sorts of worship away from Jehovah) this should include the worship of the wild beast. So we should resize the title "world empire of false religion," having ruled out, inevitably, nationalism and militarism? The worship of the wild beast? Nationalism is it not a form of religion?   Other considerations  If we accept the possibility that Babylon the Great is a literal place (and is modern Israel) we have to consider that even the mountains, on which the woman sitteth, are literal mountains. We always speak of the seven world powers of Bible history, but we never hear of the seven mountains. He never speaks of the seven mountains because the political powers, they say, are the seven mountains. Yet the writing of Revelation 17 says that there are seven kings ... and (conjunction, in Italian, meaning "and there are also") seven mountains and this conjunction might suggest that, even though the mountains depict power as well we know , there are actually seven mountains as objects of similarity with the number of kings. It would seem a literal useful clue to identify Babylon the Great. Now the question is ... Who and how many mountains are mentioned in the Scriptures which were part of the Promised Land? 1) Mount Moria 2) Mount Zion 3) Mount of Olives 4) Gilboa 5) Gerizim 6) Ebal 7) Monte Tabor. NB Mount Nebo and others, also mentioned in the Scriptures, were part of the territory of Moab and Edom and are therefore excluded . This parallel is original place, simply impossible to do with the world empire of false religion.  Revelation 3:12 and other scriptures that are fulfilled after the Lord's Day, which mention the New Jerusalem, seem to emphasize a distinction with Old Jerusalem. In chap. 18 of Revelation, Babylon the Great is destroyed. In chapter 19: 7, 8 prepares the marriage of the lamb, so ... Died the prostitute who passed himself off as the bride and the wedding may have finally begun. The marriage takes place with the " New Jerusalem "; the prostitute was perhaps the " Old Jerusalem " that is, the carnal, unclean, disobedient, idolatrous? - I Corinthians 9: 6-8; 10:18 - Galatians 4: 26-29 If I tried a people and a nation that pretends literal and that it was the people of God, to whom I would go nationwide? Only the people who actually were the people of God have what it takes, so to speak, to impersonate legitimate wife.  Babylon is also called "the great city" and the only biblical reference is Nineveh, "the city of bloodshed". This seems in keeping with the fact that Babylon is drunk with the blood of the saints, prophets and all. However in Jeremiah chapter. 22 Jehovah's condemnation of Judah, which is the city of Shallum and Jehoiakim, and people call this city "that great city." So, the city that had once belonged to the Jehovah's "great city" is defined.  Revelation 18: 1, 2 " After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, with great authority; and the earth was illuminated by his glory. 2  And he cried with a loud voice, saying," Fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen , and it became a dwelling place of demons and a place of refuge for every unclean exhalation and place of refuge for every unclean and hateful bird! " This thundering description of the Angel repeated three times the word "place" (in old traduction bible): 1 ) dwelling place of demons 2 ) place of refuge of every unclean exhalation 3 ) place of refuge of every bird unclean and hateful. We can assume that, by emphasizing three times the word "place" , you are indicating a place / literal nation? This writing may strengthen the hypothesis that Babylon the Great is a literal nation?  Of the two witnesses in sackcloth described in chapter 11 of Revelation says that, once killed, "their corpses will be on the broad way of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was put to pole "- Revelation 11: 8 What "great city" the Lord Jesus was impaled?  Finally, we might ask why, the Revelation writer, after watching scary wild animals, amazing celestial visions is beautiful that terrifying thunderous statements and many other things, only the sight of the woman he "marveled of great marveled " - Revelation 17: 6 , 7 Obviously we can not know why you can only make hypotheses but generally you wonder when you see something that you can never expect to see. It is as if to say ... "But are you? Really? You?" She, who? There may be "marveled with great marveles" for having seen his own people and his own nation (which at the time of writing Revelation no existing more)?   I copy and paste what I was telling the Watchtower of November 1, 2010, pages 27 to 29 ...  The Bible foretold the modern State of Israel? THE WORLD regarded with apprehension to the Middle East. missile attacks, clashes between armed militias, and terrorist bombings are a daily occurrence. In this explosive mixture the very real risk should be added that recourse to nuclear weapons. No wonder that in every place the people are worried. A similar atmosphere is breathed in relation to the Middle East 62 years ago, in May 1948. The British Mandate territory then called Palestine was ending, and war was imminent. The year before, the United Nations had authorized the creation, in a part of the occupied territories, of an independent Jewish state . The neighboring Arab nations had vowed to prevent at all costs. The Arab League warned: "The proposed line for the division will be nothing but a line of fire and blood." It was four in the afternoon of Friday 14 May 1948. It consumed the final hours of the British mandate. In the Tel Aviv Museum of respondents they were in 350, at the invitation secret for the much awaited announcement: the official declaration of the birth of the modern nation of Israel. Security levels were high, lest the numerous enemies of the state newly formed attempted to interrupt the event. David Ben Gurion, leader of the National Council of Israel, read the State Declaration of Independence of Israel, which said in part: "We, members of the People's Council, representatives of the Jewish community in Eretz Israel ... by virtue of our right natural and historical and General Assembly of the United Nations, we declare the founding of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel ". Fulfilled biblical prophecy? Some Evangelical Protestants believe that the birth of the modern state of Israel then go to fulfill a biblical prophecy. For example, in one of his works, Pastor John Hagee states: "This memorable event was recorded by the hand of the prophet Isaiah with the words: 'A nation will be born in a day'. (See Isaiah 66: 8 ). . . . It was the greatest moment in prophetic history of the twentieth century, the clearest proof, under the eyes of all, that the God of Israel was alive and well. " - Jerusalem Countdown. This statement is correct? Isaiah 66: 8 , perhaps foretelling the birth of the modern State of Israel? And May 14, 1948 was indeed "the greatest moment in prophetic history of the twentieth century"? If the modern State of Israel is still God's chosen nation, and if by means of it he fulfills Bible prophecy, the topic is certainly of great interest to those who study the Bible, wherever they are. The prophecy of Isaiah says: "Who has heard of a thing like this? Who has seen things like these? Will a land be brought forth with labor pains in one day? Or a nation be born at once? For Zion he has come into labor pains as she also brought forth her sons. " ( Isaiah 66: 8 ) The verse clearly foretells the birth of a nation that would have occurred suddenly, as in a single day. But who was supposed to give this birth? The next verse helps answer: " 'As for me, I will break and I will not give birth?' says Jehovah. 'Either I give birth and do I actually quit?' says your God. " Jehovah God shows beyond doubt that the extraordinary birth of the nation would work his. Modern Israel is a democracy that has never officially claimed to trust in the God of the Bible. In 1948 the Israelis might recognize Jehovah God as the sole supporter of their national entities? No. In the original draft of the Declaration of God's name was not even mentioned, and besides, even the word "God." About the final draft of the document, a book of Jewish history says: "Until one o'clock in the afternoon, when the National Council gathered, its members were unable to agree on the wording of the Declaration of Independence. . . . Observant Jews wanted it made reference to 'God of Israel'. The laity were opposed. Finding a compromise, Ben Gurion opted for the word 'Rock' instead of the word 'God'. " - Great Moments in Jewish History. The modern State of Israel is proud of its national entity on the basis of a UN resolution and what is called the natural and historic right of the Jewish people. But is it reasonable to assume that the God of the Bible accomplished the greatest miracle aimed to fulfill a prophecy in the twentieth century in favor of a people that refuses to give him honor. False religion has given honor to the birth of the nation of Israel as if it was "God's will." So we can say that the birth of this nation has created some "confusion"? Confusion in all who do not know the Bible. Hence the name, "Babylon", it would be appropriate for the modern nation of Israel.  Here are reflections of some records already seen explained in the book "Revelation its climax" (king).  "Come out of her, my people" (explanation from the book "King") Revelation 18: 4 says, "And I heard another voice from heaven saying, 'Come out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.'" The book of "Revelation: its climax", page 265 paragraph 24 says that God's servants must separate from false religion if you do not want to receive part of her plagues. However we can reason on the meaning of "my people"? Everyone in the false religion, despite having the best intentions, can not be defined as "people of God." This fact is one of the things that the people of the world reproach us when they say "Only you believe to have the truth!". In fact, it becomes part of God's people only after understanding the basic Bible truths, having repented of the conduct of the past, having converted and then having dedicated, baptized. That's right? How can God call his people from the ranks of false religion? If Babylon the Great is the world empire of false religion we must necessarily assume that God calls those who will become his people. Those people who potentially could become his people but who are not yet. Scripture, however, it seems clear that, when it calls these people "out of Babylon", they are already His people (just as happened in ancient times, they probably had to be cleansed and disciplined but were left, all the time, his people). If Babylon the Great, however, is the modern nation of Israel, then there is not much to interpret. Even in the modern nation of Israel are our dear brothers. And 'it possible that God is saying, to the brothers in Israel, literally to flee away in the imminent destruction seen? This would mean that "the rest", as reported many times in the Scriptures, would literally (physically) a remnant! A remaining to save.  When in 70 CE the first Christians received the command to "flee to the mountains" in view of the destruction that would take place by means of the "disgusting thing" (i.e. at the time of the Roman Empire), they understood it as "separate from Judaism" or this was a natural consequence of the Master's teachings? They do not perhaps understood how to get out literally from the city ?  Writing Romans 9:27, where Paul quotes Isaiah, could have a literal fulfillment?  Jeremiah 25:10, 11 and Revelation 18:22, 23 are very similar to each other yet Jeremiah speaks of Israel and Revelation speaks of Babylon the Great.  In Revelation 18: 5-8 it says, "God has been mindful of his acts of injustice." Because God "has been mindful"? False religion has not always done evil in a 6000 story, without stopping for a moment from the time of Nimrod? It could not be because "Babylon" has not existed for many years, as a nation, but appears again after the "Lord's Day" by another name?  From the book "Insight", in "Babylon the Great," he said ... Features of ancient Babylon. The foundation of Babylon in the plains of Shinar coincided with the attempt to build the tower of Babel. (Ge 11: 2-9) The construction of the city and by the people tower was not motivated by the intention to exalt the name of God, but by the desire to 'make a celebrated name'. The ziggurat discoveries not only in the ruins of ancient Babylon but throughout Mesopotamia seem to confirm the essentially religious nature of the original tower, whatever its form or its style. The resolute action of Jehovah God to overthrow the temple construction is a clear condemnation of his false religious origin. While the Hebrew name of the city, Babel, means "confusion", the Sumerian name ( Ka-ra-dingir ) and Akkadian (Bab-ilu ) both mean "God's door." So the people left in the city they altered the name to avoid the original meaning of condemnation, but the new form also reveals the religious nature of the city.  What was also reported recently in the slave publications, the creation of the modern nation of Israel and the return of the Jews at home was not the work of God and, much more serious, was not made to give glory to God. on the contrary, all this was done to "the desire to become a famous name." The Jewish religion also still believed to be the "Gate of God" but it is a mystification of reality. It is not a lawful wife or queen but, with its political and commercial alliances, has proven to be a sordid prostitute (biblically speaking).  In Revelation 16: 16-21 we are now at Armageddon, the great city is divided into three parts, nations fall and Babylon, "was remembered." So Babylon is related with the fall of other nations as if it were a special nation "," something to remember, but still a nation. Which, among all nations of the earth , it might be considered "special" from Jehovah God?  The golden cup full of "disgusting things" hand-held by the great harlot might remember the utensils of God's temple? - Compare Daniel 5: 1-4  In 2 Kings 17: 24-30 some Babylonians become "Israelites" settling in Samaria but they are Babylonian idolaters and God makes them devoured by lions. This does not seem a parallel with what the Bible says of Babylon the Great? Also in the book "Insight" to "Samaritan - The Samaritan religion," says ...  The Samaritan religion.The development of the Samaritan religion was due to several factors, not least the result of Jeroboam's efforts to expel the ten tribes by the adoration of Jehovah centralized in Jerusalem. In about 250 years after the nation split into two kingdoms, the priests the Levites ordained of God were replaced by a priesthood of human origin which, in turn, led the kingdom of Israel to practice a degrading form of idolatry. (1 Kings 12: 28-33; 2 Kings 17: 7-17; 2Ch 11: 13-15; 13: 8, 9) Then there was the fall of the northern kingdom. The pagan immigrants came from Babylon, Cuthah, Avva, Hamath and Sepharvaim worshiped many gods: Sukkot-Benot, Nergal, Ashima, Nibaz, Tartak, Adrammelech and Anammelec. Although they learned something about Jehovah by teaching a priest of the Jeroboam priesthood, however, as Samaria had done with the golden calves, so they, generation after generation, continued to worship their false gods. (2 Kings 17: 24-41) Nearly a century after the fall of Samaria, all attempts to Josiah to eliminate the idolatrous worship of those northern communities had no more lasting effect of similar reforms he did both in the southern kingdom of Judah. - 2 Kings 23: 4-20; 2Ch 34: 6, 7. In 537 BCE, a remnant of the twelve tribes returned from Babylonian exile prepared to rebuild Jehovah's temple in Jerusalem. (Ezra 1: 3; 2: 1, 70) It was then that the "Samaritans", which were already in the country when they arrived the Israelites and that were described as "adversaries of Judah and Benjamin," they turned to Zerubbabel and to elders, saying, "Let us build with you; because, just like you, we seek your God and we sacrifice since the days of Esar-haddon king of Assyria, who put us here. " (Ezra 4: 1, 2) This alleged devotion to Jehovah, however, showed only formal; In fact, when Zerubbabel declined the offer, the Samaritans did everything they could to prevent the construction of the temple. Failed all their concerted attempts to harass and intimidate the Israelites, Persian emperor did send a letter containing false allegations, and managed to get a government decree that made suspend construction for several years. - Ezra 4: 3-24. In the mid-fifth century BCE, when Nehemiah began repairing Jerusalem's walls, Sanballat (governor of Samaria, according to a papyrus from Elephantine) made several unsuccessful but vigorous attempts to stop the work. (Ne 2:19, 20; 4: 1-12; 6: 1-15) Later, after a prolonged absence, Nehemiah returned to Jerusalem and found the grandson of High Priest Eliashib had married the daughter of Sanballat. Immediately Nehemiah 'chased him away'. - Ne 13: 6, 7, 28.  "The Levitical priests ordained by God were replaced by priests of human origin" : this is not what happened to Israel after God has abandoned the faithless nation in 70 CE? The pagan immigrants came from Babylon become "Israelites" by force (ie, not by God), also learning something about the religion of the Jews, and mingling with them through intermarriage but they basically have Babylonians. It can be assumed that God takes this modern nation for what it really is and that is a modern Babylon? In 537 BCE, the "enemies of Judah and Benjamin," they turned to Zorobabel, and the elders, saying, "Let us build with you; because, just like you, we seek your God and we sacrifice since the days of Esar-haddon king of Assyria, who put us here. " So Babylon in the territory of the true Israel has never disappeared and has never ceased to claim to serve God.  In the book "Revelation" on page 207, paragraph 5, the explanation fits very well to the modern nation of Israel. Even now the Jews believe they are the chosen race, the people of God, and give to God their commercial and military victories. They believe that God has given them authority over all the nations of the world but they, in the words of the Lord, have another father. - Matthew 4: 8-10 - John 8: 43-47 They still say "sit queen, and am no widow, and shall see no mourning."  Question one. According to the explanation of the book "Revelation: its climax" is appropriate that the great whore sit on the wild beast scarlet because, false religion, has always had the power over the kings of the earth reaching even to name them and to oust them. We know that the League or the League of Nations has as its representatives even "old nations" mentioned in the Bible as Roma, Medo-Persia, and others but would not be more logical to see the "great whore" ride the first wild beast, and that is the one that ascends from sea, since false religion has existed since Nimrod times? Instead the great harlot sits on the beast that " was, but is not, and is about to ascend from the abyss, and it will go into destruction " - Revelation 17: 8a What rode the world empire of false religion when the beast not had?  Question two. As has been pointed out, in the Bible Israel is compared to a wife, and Jehovah's husbandly owner. When it seemed to be unfaithful, in alliance with other nations and mixing with false worship, Israel became "infidel" and even "prostitute." Christendom claims to serve God, but in reality, is a prostitute with the nations and in all false doctrine of pagan origin. However if Babylon the Great is the world empire of false religion (and therefore also includes religions such as Buddhism, Shintoism, Hinduism, tribal religions etc), because it is considered as a whole, a prostitute? Jehovah has never been identified as the "husbandly owner" of nations like Ammon, Moab, Egypt or other. So if we apply the concept of prostitution only in a spiritual-religious sense, one would think that this infamous prostitute is only Christianity . Want you know more? Please, visit https://attenzioneallaprofezia.blogspot.it/
  16. Un nombre. Un misterio. Babilonia la Grande  - 20 de junio 2017 Un nombre. Un misterio. Babilonia la Grande.    PREGUNTAS para ver si BABILONIA LA GRANDE ES UNA NACIÓN  En la Biblia hay cientos de referencias a la destrucción de Babilonia e Israel infiel . También son paralelos entre Israel y muchos cientos de Babilonia (Isaías, Jeremías, Ezequiel ...). Estar acostumbrado a hacer paralelismos con el cristianismo y el imperio mundial de la religión falsa, asìque cada vez que leemos "Israel será destruido!" nos leemos, de hecho, "el cristianismo será destruido!" y cada vez que leemos "sarà Babilonia destruida!" nos leemos "El imperio mundial de la religión falsa será destruido." Ahora la pregunta es ... "Si en una etapa específica de la Biblia ella quiere decir que Israel sería destruido hablando realmente de Israel ... lo que encontraríamos escrito?" Obviamente nos encontramos escrito "Israel será destruido!" Al final se trata de entender si, cada vez que se habla de la destrucción de Babilonia y / o Israel después de que el día del Señor , hay al menos una posibilidad de que usted se refiere a Israel, osea la moderna Israel que es una nación literal. ¿Cuál es la mayor falsificación del pueblo de Dios hoy? Cristianismo y la moderna nación de Israel? Antes de 1948 esta hipótesis, y estas preguntas no habría tenido sentido. Cualquier hipótesis habrían descartado simplemente porque Isreal Israel no existiera . Desde mayo de 1948, sin embargo, Israel existe y hay que entender básicamente tres cosas. 1) A ver si es posible que la gran Babilonia es una nación 2) Si es así, ver si Israel se corresponde con la descripción que hace de la Biblia 3) Comparar con los conocimientos actuales, y ver cuál de las dos partes, a la luz de la Escritura y no de los deseos o ideas personales , es más probable que sea.  pregunta 1 Babilonia la grande puede ser una nación?  Mientras tanto, tenemos que recordar que Babilonia la Grande, a lo largo de la historia, se ha "identificado" con muchas naciones y por muchas razones diferentes. Roma imperial, Roma papal, EE.UU., Reino Unido, URSS, etc. Muchas personas y diferentes grupos religiosos dieron diferentes explicaciones, pero ninguna de ellas ha resistido la prueba del fuego , y que es el escrutinio de las Escrituras - I Tesalonicenses 5:21 ¿Y nosotros? Una de las explicaciones en las publicaciones del esclavo que Babilonia la Grande no puede ser una nación literal es el hecho de que "cometer fornicación con los reyes de la tierra". Un intensificador de esta declaración sería el hecho de que los dos reyes y comerciantes lamentan su destrucción. Por último, no sería una nación porque dicen que engaña a toda la tierra habitada por su "práctica espiritista". Eso es correcto? Vamos a ver. En Isaías 23: 15-17 se habla de Tiro como una "prostituta olvidada" y por lo tanto, como tal, ella " hace prostitución con todos los reinos de la tierra en la superficie de la tierra ." Tiro era una nación, no una religión o un sistema religioso - Romanos 15.4 Ese significa que una nación puede ser descrita en la Biblia, en el momento de cometer prostitución con todos los reinos del mundo y seguir siendo una nación. La prostitución puede tener que ver con el comercio o con actos de injusticia y derramamiento de sangre , y no necesariamente con la religión. - Nahum 3: 1-4 En particular, el rodaje de la prostitución no tiene nada que ver con la religión falsa porque si lo fueran, Jehová no se consideraría "santo" su remuneración - Isaías 23:18 La "prostitución" puede tener que ver simplemente con la alianza y la confianza en otras naciones, según lo informado muchas veces en la Biblia cuando Israel y Judá mostraron aliarse con los infieles naciones paganas. Es claro, por tanto, que si esta nación es comparada con prostituta, la pérdida de esta prostituta ramera perjudique a sus amantes (las naciones con las que ha cometido la prostitución y los comerciantes se han enriquecido de ella) al igual que el antiguo Israel trató" alegría "para el rodaje de regalos de prostitución y no porque tiroteo fue una religión o la religión de los neumáticos. Un rey puede "llorar" la pérdida de un aliado político (y por lo tanto por la caída de una nación) y un gran comerciante puede llorar por la caída de un aliado comercial (que puede ser grande o pequeño, pero definitivamente rica nación). Asiqué las razones por las que "Babilonia la Grande" no puede ser una nación, porque los reyes y comerciantes de luto por su muerte no son válidas. Que decir, sin embargo, por la afirmación más fuerte en referencia a Babilonia la Grande a saber, que "a través de su práctica de espiritismo han sido descarriados todas las naciones"? Esta declaración en particular, ha llevado a muchos a pensar que se trataba de un imperio religioso (por muchas sectas del cristianismo Babilonia la Grande es la católica e incluso algunos católicos es el Vaticano II). En primer lugar, debemos darnos cuenta de que todos los imperios del pasado han recurrido a prácticas espiritistas, y esto también es cierto para los imperios modernos llamados ateos. Faraón se opuso a Moisés su "practicantes de la magia " y Nabucodonosor fue prácticamente cercado - Éxodo 07:11 - Daniel 2: 2 Lo mismo puede decirse de Asiria, Siria, Persia, Media-Persia, etc. Así que si la Biblia, hablando de una nación literal, diciendo que hace "adivinación" magica, no decir nada excepcional. También sabemos, a partir del estudio de las Escrituras, que las naciones se rigen por los demonios que están extraviando a toda la tierra habitada, y que durante las guerras no son sólo los seres humanos implicados - Daniel 10:13 Podemos suponer que los demonios puedon dar poder especial para una nación, y esto tiene, hoy en día, "un reino sobre los reyes de la tierra"? - Apocalipsis 17:18 También ver Lucas 4: 5-7 Sin forzar ninguna interpretación, la lógica y la Escritura no nos permitirá descartar "Babilonia la Grande" entre las naciones.  pregunta 2 "La moderna Israel, se ajustan a la descripción que la Biblia hace Babilonia la Grande ?"  En Apocalipsis 17: 1, 2 dice que Babilonia la Grande "está sentada sobre muchas aguas". Sabemos que las aguas significan "pueblos y muchedumbres y naciones y lenguas" Israel "está sentada sobre muchas aguas", ya que está rodeado de muchos pueblos y naciones que llevan el dolor ( "sentarse en ella" puede significar también en contra de la voluntad de los pueblos vecinos en sí). En Isaías 8: 5-8 se habla del poderoso ejército asirio como un "aguas devastadoras"; por lo que no siempre las "aguas" son un símbolo de protección - Isaías 8: 5-8 Fue puesto allí por la fuerza de la ONU en contra de los deseos de muchos países vecinos. Se sienta también "sobre muchas aguas", porque su posición se debe a las naciones que conforman las Naciones Unidas (Babilonia la Grande està sentada también a la bestia salvaje de color escarlata) que, además de haber establecido donde aún, proteger militarmente. Los ejércitos de Asiria se asemejan a "aguas devastadoras", entonces podemos decir que también se siente en muchos ejércitos? - Revelación 17: 3, 16 Tenemos que señalar que la nación de Israel se encuentra realmente en el 'cruce' de tres continentes: Europa, África, Asia. Si quería encontrar una nación literal que realmente està sentada sobre "muchas aguas" (es decir, pueblos, naciones, tribus y lenguas), en sentado geográfico como políticamente, no hay otra nación que correspondería mejor a la nación moderna de Israel. La ramera montar una bestia. En Apocalipsis 17: 3 leemos: "Y el ángel me llevó en el poder del espíritu en un desierto, y vi a una mujer sentada sobre una bestia salvaje de color escarlata que estaba llena de nombres de blasfemia, que tenía siete cabezas y diez cuernos.". La nación de Israel ya está en un desierto y monta la bestia salvaje escarlata que, como sabemos, es la Liga de las Naciones. Israel existe, detrás del imperio anglo-estadounidense empujado a través y por las Naciones Unidas desde 1948. Desde anteriores acontecimientos históricos y la creación del estado de Israel confirma que el pueblo judío ha montado la bestia salvaje en escarlata antes de volver a ser una nación. Madre de todas las rameras. Apocalipsis 17: 4-5: "Y la mujer estaba vestida de púrpura y escarlata, y adornada de oro, piedras preciosas y de perlas, y tenía en la mano un cáliz de oro lleno de abominaciones y de la inmundicia de su fornicación Y. en su frente un nombre escrito, un misterio: 'Babilonia la Grande, la madre de las rameras y de las cosas repugnantes de la tierra'". Si se acepta la posibilidad de que una nación se asemeja a una prostituta (exactamente igual que los neumáticos), entonces la nación de Israel es la "madre de todas las rameras" porque cometió fornicación en un grado mayor que cualquier otra nación en el mundo. ¿Cómo podemos saber? Si la ramera montar la bestia salvaje de color escarlata, que, como sabemos, es la Sociedad de Naciones, se supone que tiene fornicado con todos los países que participan en las Naciones Unidas. De hecho, su existencia misma como nación se debe a sus amantes políticos así, seguir existiendo , deben comprometerse prostitución en exceso y de forma continua. No hay 'otra nación puede comparar con ella como actos de prostitución porque no hay' otra nación tiene una fuerte necesidad de complacer a las Naciones Unidas a seguir existiendo. También' posible que en la Biblia se describe como una prostituta, porque no es una verdadera ' reina' , pero un tramo . Es un imperio cortar con el propósito de una prostituta. La mujer también está "vestida de púrpura y escarlata, y adornada de oro, piedras preciosas ..." entonces simplemente vestida como una reina pero los colores púrpura y escarlata todavía los colores de lujo y el poder real y esto reforzaría la ' idea de que se está hablando de un reino, una nación literal. Asimismo, la bestia que monta la ramera es escarlata y la bestia, como sabemos, la Liga o la Liga de las Naciones (todos los miembros de la ONU representan naciones literales). El color escarlata es la fiera que la ramera, es significativo. bebido sangre de los santos. Escritura continúa diciendo "Vi a la mujer ebria de la sangre de los santos y testigos de Jesús." Israel tiene un enorme culpa de la sangre y Jesús se refirió a este mismo país cuando dijo: "Con el fin de estar en ti todo el derramamiento de sangre justo en la tierra, desde la sangre del justo Abel hasta la sangre de Zacarías hijo de Berequías, a quien vosotros entre assassinaste el santuario y el altar "- Mateo 23:35 - Lucas 11:50, 51 Así mismo Jesús identifica a Israel, no a otra nación , como responsable del pago de "toda la sangre justa" (también compararon las palabras de Stephen informaron en Hechos 7: 51-53). El libro "Insight", bajo el título "Babilonia la Grande", señala correctamente que no todos los cristianos fueron perseguidos por los fariseos y los Judios mismos han sufrido, a su vez, una gran persecución. Sin embargo, incluso Abel fue asesinado por un fariseo, e incluso por algún ministro religioso. Además de los millones de muertes causadas por el imperio comunista, ateo, difícilmente podrían ser retenidas a la falsa religión. Podemos suponer que Jehová y Jesús consideran particularmente responsable de aquellos que han "conocer a Dios" y, a pesar de esto, ellos cometen crímenes indecibles? En este adapta perfectamente a la nación de Israel. - Oseas 8: 2 - Amos 3: 2 Condolencias por el final de Babilonia. Revelación 18: 9-14 dice: "Y los reyes de la tierra han fornicado con ella, y hacía desenfrenada llorarán y se golpearán en desconsuelo por ella cuando vean el humo de su incendio, 10  y se pararán lejos por el temor de su tormento y decir, 'Ay, condenación, la gran ciudad, Babilonia, la ciudad fuerte, porque en uno, ahora es él!' 11  "Y los que los comerciantes de la tierra lloran y se lamentan sobre ella, porque ninguno compra su carga completa, 12  de carga lleno de oro y plata y piedras preciosas y de perlas, de lino fino y seda púrpura y escarlata, y cada maderas olorosas y todo tipo de objetos de marfil y cada tipo de objeto de madera preciosa, de cobre y hierro y de mármol; 13  y canela, especias indias y incienso y aceite perfumado e incienso y vino y aceite de oliva y fino la harina y el trigo y el ganado y las ovejas y caballos y carruajes y esclavos y almas humanos. 14  Sí, la fruta fina que deseaba que su alma se ha apartado de ti, y todas las cosas cosas ricas y espléndidas perecido de usted, y usted la encontrará " Como hemos visto antes, los dos reyes de los comerciantes de la tierra y de viajeros sufren de la desaparición de su amante. A diferencia de cualquier otra nación, la destrucción de Israel traería la desesperación y la "mala suerte" entre los líderes y entre los comerciantes de todo el mundo. ¿Por qué? Debido a que el pueblo judío es el propietario de los mayores bancos del mundo, casi todo el oro, el petróleo, las mayores corporaciones globales y todo lo que se pueda imaginar. Las grandes potencias mundiales (incluyendo los Estados Unidos, la Unión Soviética y China) se han aprovechado de préstamos abundantes para hacer la guerra con otras naciones y construir estructuras imponentes y colosales (como el Canal de Suez). Basta con hacer un poco de 'investigación para averiguar cuáles y cuántas maneras los dueños de los bancos más grandes del mundo han participado en casi todas las guerras de los dos últimos siglos y probablemente mucho más atrás en el tiempo. Las palabras de Revelación 18: 11-14 que hablan de 'plena carga de oro y plata y piedras preciosas y de perlas, de lino fino y seda púrpura y escarlata, y toda madera olorosa y cada tipo de objeto de marfil y todo tipo de madera preciosa, de cobre y de hierro y mármol objeto, y la canela y especias indias y incienso y aceite perfumado e incienso y vino y aceite de oliva y flor de harina, trigo, bestias, ovejas y caballos y carruajes y los esclavos y las almas humanas son significativos. Imaginar las consecuencias económicas globales para el colapso del 80% de todos los bancos existentes y por lo tanto el fracaso inmediato y simultáneo de miles de empresas en todo el mundo ... se podría concluir que una crisis de esta magnitud no se corresponde en absoluto la historia del hombre - Mateo 24:21 Realmente los reyes de la tierra a los viajeros y comerciantes de todo el mundo estarían derecho a golpearse el pecho, a llorar y gritar, "¡Ay!" "Salid de ella, pueblo mío." Revelación 18: 4 dice: "Y oí otra voz del cielo que decía: Salid de ella, pueblo mío, si no desea compartir con ella en sus pecados, y si no quieren recibir parte de sus plagas". Si la gran Babilonia es la nación moderna de Israel, entonces es fácil de entender que se enfrenta a este llamamiento urgente: nuestros queridos hermanos presentes en la nación de Israel, que también son "un remanente para ser salvo." Si permanece allí, recibiría parte de sus plagas como consecuencia del ataque enfureció a las Naciones Unidas. Esta posibilidad debe ser evaluada muy en serio. Esto significaría, por otra parte, que la destrucción de Jerusalén en el 537 aC y otra vez en el año 70 tendría un cumplimiento más allá y definitiva . El tercero (Revelación 4: 8; 8:13; 16:13, 19 - Ezequiel 21:14). El número dos pregunta: "La gente moderna literales de Israel, coincide con la descripción que la Biblia hace Babilonia la Grande ?" Si nos guste o no lo que está escrito arriba , y aunque puede ser un "efecto dominó" en otras interpretaciones, esto está en consonancia tanto con la historia secular ch y con la Escritura. La respuesta, entonces, es que sí.  pregunta 3 ¿Cuál de las dos partes, a la luz de la Escritura y no de los deseos o ideas personales , que son más propensos a ser?  Honestamente, toda la descripción que la Biblia hace Babilonia la Grande, se corresponde estrechamente con la falsa religión y lo que es muy difícil de entender si la Biblia quiere decir a una nación literal o falsa religión en su conjunto. La inmoralidad flagrante, violencia extrema, el deseo de dominación, la prostitución espiritual, la arrogancia y la presunción ... son todas características imperio mundial de la religión falsa, así como el actual Israel. Las pistas, sin embargo, deberían ser más que suficiente, cuando se ve sin ideas preconcebidas, para entender el tema. Siguiendo la lista de pruebas y de comparación de los sujetos.  literal Nación de Israel (INT)  imperio mundial de la religión falsa (IMFL)  NLI Se sienta sobre la bestia escarlata (ONU) La nación de Israel ha sido puesto allí por las Naciones Unidas. No es gracias a la ONU que ha establecido y protege militarmente. IMFL Se sienta sobre la bestia escarlata (ONU?) No se debe montar la bestia salvaje que asciende desde el mar ya que la falsa religión ha existido desde los tiempos de Nimrod?  NLI Se sienta sobre muchas aguas (tribus, pueblos, idiomas). Las naciones que integran la ONU incluyen muchas naciones, tribus, pueblos y lenguas. Las aguas son también "ejércitos": la ONU es una potencia militar múltiple. Israel es también en el cruce de tres continentes. IMFL Lado en muchas aguas (tribus, pueblos, idiomas). La falsa religión siempre ha sido parte de la historia humana y se incluyen todos los pueblos, tribus, naciones y lenguas. Estas aguas han sido siempre una protección para la religión.  NLI Madre de todas las rameras / fornicación Israel fornica más que cualquier otra nación. Para seguir existiendo debería complacer a la ONU y todos los socios de negocios y políticos existentes. Ninguna otra nación en el mundo está obligado a hacerlo en su propia medida porque, otras naciones, existían antes y pueden seguir existiendo incluso sin respaldo de la ONU. IMFL Madre de todas las rameras / fornicación El cristianismo afirma ser "pueblo de Dios" pero es adúltera debido a su amistad con el mundo. Sus prácticas son de origen babilónico. Traiciona a "dueño marital," Jehová. Y 'prostituta. Además cristianismo, sin embargo, la gran Babilonia incluiría todas las religiones que se aleja de Dios (esto incluye todas las religiones no cristianas, incluyendo la tribu). ¿Por qué, entonces, se ve como una prostituta? Jehová nunca ha considerado el dueño marital de las naciones como Egipto, Asiria y Persia medios?  NLI lujo desenfrenado La nación de Israel incluye casi todos los banqueros en el mundo. Las empresas más grandes que existen. oro y el petróleo pozos Posside; restaurantes, empresas, etc. Posee armas y organizaciones del mundo de diversos tipos. Las obras de arte más cara en el mundo son propiedad de Judios. Su poder comercial es simplemente más allá de la creencia. IMFL lujo desenfrenado La religión falsa, con algunas excepciones, siempre ha adornado con cosas preciosas. Templos, iglesias, estatuas, templos, pinturas ... obras de arte sin número y sin valor. También se redujo la pobreza en millones de personas por una tarifa cada "servicio espiritual". Incluso la religión falsa que viven en el regazo de lujo.  NLI Pesadilla de los gobernantes La caída de Israel llevaría a los gobernantes al grito de "mal" porque siempre han hecho negocios con ellos (la venta de armas a cada tráfico ilícito). Incluyendo el Servicio Secreto. La caída de un socio como que iba a tirar muchos países en una profunda desesperación. IMFL Pesadilla de los gobernantes La caída global del imperio de la religión falsa llevaría a los gobernantes gritando fatalidad debido a su influencia en las multitudes, pero sólo en algunas partes del mundo (es decir, el Islam). En todas las naciones occidentales que no entiende por qué debe gritar "desgracia". La religión siempre ha tomado de la gente y nunca nada para compartir con la ciudad anfitriona. La influencia que la religión tenía incluso en los países occidentales se ha eliminado prácticamente después de la Segunda Guerra Mundial. Ninguna nación occidental se ha enriquecido a través de la religión. Por el contrario, escándalos como los de "El banco Ambrosiano" tienen los países empobrecidos aún más. Los gobernantes de las naciones "atea" difícilmente llorar en absoluto "Doom" a su caída.  NLI Ay comerciantes Israel es el mayor socio comercial en el mundo. Cualquiera que sea comerciante internacional estaría en problemas para perder un compañero así. Lo mismo se aplica a todos los comerciantes más pequeños que dependen, en su totalidad o en parte, de los más grandes. La caída de Israel es un tsunami económico sin precedentes. IMFL Ay comerciantes Debido a su arte y sus edificios opulentos, comerciantes de arte gritarían "fatalidad". Es difícil imaginar un comerciante de otro tipo (la electrónica, la investigación espacial, etc.) grito de 'desgracia'. Los exponentes de la religión falsa, sin embargo, jugar el mercado de valores y tienen muchas acciones en muchas actividades diferentes para las que no se puede ser categórico.  NLI prácticas espiritistas La nación de Israel tiene sus "practicantes de la magia" y muy probablemente la práctica más que cualquier otra nación mágica (pensar en la Cábala judía). Sabemos por las escrituras que las naciones están gobernadas por los demonios y por lo tanto puede dar el poder de una nación o persona en particular - 17:18 Revelación; Lucas 4: 5-7 el MFL prácticas espiritistas El imperio mundial de la religión falsa, por su naturaleza, es "engañoso todas las naciones a través de sus prácticas espiritistas". Todas las guerras más sangrientas se libraron a causa de condicionamiento religioso.  N LI La sangre de los santos y de todos los muertos El pueblo judío, como propietarios de los bancos más grandes del mundo, ha despertado una gran cantidad de guerras, incluso las más recientes, para sus propios fines económicos. Israel está envuelto en los servicios secretos, en el tráfico internacional de armas y todo lo imaginable. Históricamente se ha demostrado que algunos de los asesinatos más "importantes" tienen orígenes judíos. Jesús se identifica a Israel como responsable del pago de "toda la sangre justa" - Mateo 23:35 - Lucas 11:50, 51 Podemos suponer que Jehová y Jesús consideran particularmente responsable de aquellos que han "conocer a Dios" y, a pesar de esto, ellos cometen crímenes indecibles? - Oseas 8: 2 - Amos 3: 2 IMFL La sangre de los santos y de todos los muertos La violencia de la religión falsa en su conjunto es evidente y no tiene igual en ningún otro país / organización. Tener 6.000 años de crímenes detrás, no es comparable a cualquier otra cosa en conocida en la tierra.  NLI Salid de ella pueblo mío En Israel, como en todo el mundo, nuestros hermanos están activos. Si la ONU va a descargar su furia sobre esta nación (debido a la voluntad de Jehová) es obvio y amorosa de Dios que llama a su pueblo a salir. Esto ahorraría un remanente, según ha informado varias veces en las Escrituras. Esta sería la tercera vez que Jehová destruye "su gente" , ya que con sus acciones muestran ya su pueblo no son - Deuteronomio 32: 5 - Revelación 4: 8; 8:13; 16:13, 19 - Ezequiel 21:14 IMFL Salid de ella pueblo mío Siendo una nación simbólica no puede ver literalmente este éxodo espiritual . Los dos sujetos no se pueden comparar. Sin embargo, es interesante observar que cuando Jehová llama a su pueblo de Babilonia también diciendo que no debe yugo y "no toque nada impuro," que ya estaban a su pueblo dedicado y bautizado. Su gente había llegado lejos de una nación pagana (literal). No eran personas que formaban parte de otra religión y que tenga buenas intenciones, que luego serían dedicada bautizado y convertirse sucesivamente a su pueblo - II Corintios 6: 14-18  reflexiones  Como está escrito en el comienzo de esta discusión, en la Biblia hay cientos de paralelismos entre Babilonia y la infiel Israel . Incluso la copa "llena de cosas repugnantes" a partir del cual se inebriated la prostituta recuerda los utensilios del templo de Jehová. La pregunta es ¿qué queremos decir cuando leemos estos paralelo. La tabla anterior muestra ambos sujetos tienen puntos fuertes y, al menos en apariencia, debilidades. Un punto fuerte a favor de Israel moderno es el hecho de que se monte la bestia salvaje de color escarlata, y que es en sí misma vestida de escarlata (lo que sugiere una nación literal). Un punto de imperio mundial de la religión falsa fuerte es el derramamiento de sangre; Aunque el estado de Israel tiene una enorme culpa de la sangre, por supuesto, no se puede comparar a 6000 años de abuso y violencia atribuibles a la religión falsa. Sin embargo no se debe cometer el error de pensar que es la intensidad de una pista para establecer la identidad del sujeto. En todo caso es la cantidad de pistas, incluso su totalidad. Si sólo una pequeña indicación no combaciasse (y esto fue demostrado fuera de toda duda), aparte de todos los demás, esto pondría en peligro la identidad.  Todos los juicios de Jehová, dada en las Escrituras, combatieron los pueblos y las naciones literales y también envía plagas sobre Egipto, que sirvieron para destruir / humillar a sus falsos dioses, sin embargo, tenía que caer en un país específico. Por otra parte, la guerra de Armagedón, la destrucción de todas las naciones (que se rigen por los demonios), eliminar automáticamente todas las formas de religión; Si la gran Babilonia era una nación de especial interés , pero sigue siendo una nación, esto sería simplemente una señal de que el sistema satánico está a punto de llegar a su trágico final - Daniel 2:44  En el libro "Las profecías de Isaías" volumen 1, página 202 contiene el párrafo 28 Isaías 19: 3 y se lee ... "Del mismo modo, en el día del juicio, la religión falsa no será capaz de salvar a este sistema corrupto de las cosas." Pero si Egipto representa el mundo como un todo, ya estamos en el Armagedón (19 Isaías: 2 Jehová pone "egipcio contra egipcio") y el imperio mundial de la religión falsa (si es Babilonia la Grande) ya fue destruido . Ahora, si el imperio mundial de la religión falsa ha sido destruido previamente , en qué sentido "la gente va a recurrir al valor, los encantadores ya los médiums"? Sólo un mundo todavía impregnado de religión, después de la destrucción de Babilonia la Grande, podría "recurrir a los dioses que nada valen."  Lo anterior podría estar en armonía con la escritura de Zacarías 13: 4-6, que habla de "el profeta" ¿quién negará jamás sea? La Atalaya del 15 de julio de 2015, el subtítulo "El comienzo de la gran tribulación", dice ... " Por lo tanto, parece que incluso algunos miembros del clero abandonarán su carrera religiosa y negar que alguna vez había sido una parte de la religión falsa." Sin embargo, si para los Grandes adherentes de Babilonia simplemente "cambian su chaqueta" para sus vidas (lo que haría que la mayoría de ellos, no tener una verdadera fe), parece como si se ha "roto y completamente quemado en el fuego." Es también difícil de imaginar este 'gran duelo', ya que la mayoría del clero, especialmente del cristianismo, todavía estaría vivo después de la destrucción de Babilonia la Grande.  El libro "Revelación: su pico" en el capítulo 19 el párrafo 29 dice ... "Ni las cavernas montañas literales ni las organizaciones políticas y comerciales comparables a las montañas proporcionarán seguridad económica o la prestación de otra naturaleza." Sin embargo, incluso falsa adoración en la Biblia se relaciona con los "lugares altos", como en Ezequiel 6: 1-5 (los altos que no protegen a los israelitas infieles de la ira de Jehová). Es posible que, en el día de Jehová del'ira (así que después de la gran tribulación) los seres humanos será buscar protección en las instituciones políticas, comerciales y religiosos?  Todo lo que sigue es tomado del libro "Babilonia" y, en la medida de lo posible, vamos a ver si lo que ha dicho se puede aplicar a la nación moderna de Israel. Aunque el libro no se actualiza all'intendimento actual (más adelante voy a utilizar el libro "Revelación: su clímax" como referencia) reflexiones y principios en los que se basó siguen siendo interesante y puede proporcionar elementos de reflexión.  Del libro "Babilonia la Grande" (BF) Cerrado viernes, 8 de septiembre de 1922, una asamblea internacional de los estudiantes de la Biblia no sectarias en Cedar Point, Ohio, en una conferencia sobre "El Reino" a las 9:30, se les dijo que tenían que ser testigos del Señor, en los testigos Jehová. El orador, J. F. Rutherford, entonces presidente de la Biblia de la Torre Sociedad Watch y Tracto citó los miles de personas se reunieron en asamblea Isaías 43: 8-12 y luego llegó a decir: Así vemos que los de la clase templo se designan claramente como testigos de Dios en este tiempo, para llevar un mensaje de consuelo a las personas, que llegaron al reino de los cielos, y que millones de personas que ahora viven no morirán jamás. Así vemos que el propósito de Dios que su nombre sea magnificado, para que el pueblo sabe que él es el Señor. Así vemos que el propósito de Dios a la tierra tiene un pueblo en este tiempo de angustia, claramente marcadas como separado y distinto de todos los demás, que se destaca como sus testigos, proclamando audazmente el mensaje: "El reino de los cielos se ha acercado! " . . . Esto es confirmado por el Señor en Mateo 24:14. Está claro que se expresa entonces como prueba de que la clase templo debe seguir para declarar este mensaje del reino hasta que su carrera terrenal no ha terminado. Tienen que ser sus testigos fieles hasta que los muros de Babilonia no se derrumba en el suelo. . . . Ser testigos fieles y verdaderos para el Señor. Avanzado en la lucha hasta que todo vestigio de Babilonia no fueron asolados. Anunciar el mensaje a todas partes. El mundo debe saber que Jehová es Dios y que Jesucristo es Rey de reyes y Señor de señores. Este es el día de los días. He aquí, el rey reina! Estás sus agentes de publicidad. Así lo anunció, anunció, anunció el Rey y su reino. - Páginas 336, 337 de La Atalaya (Inglés) 1º de noviembre, 1922.  Nota: Era 1922 y no existía y tampoco se imaginaba el nacimiento de la moderna Israel, que, de hecho, lleva a cabo el 14 de mayo de 1948.  (Bf) Recordemos que la Babilonia original fue fundada como una desviación de la adoración del amor y la fidelidad de Jehová a él como Dios, como Babilonia fue establecido por un rebelde que se puso en contra. Ese rebelde fue estigmatizado como "vigoroso cazador Nimrod en oposición a Jehová." Entonces el pueblo de la ciudad pagana que llamaron la "Puerta de Dios." Sin embargo, Jehová llamada la ciudad de Babel, que significa "Confusión", porque confundió el idioma de los constructores de la ciudad y su torre. (Génesis 10: 8-10; 11: 5-9) Babel ( griego,Babilonia) nunca fue una ciudad judía; Nunca era judía; Nunca era mesiánica o cristianos, ya que nunca fue la organización de Jehová Dios. Estaba siempre en contra de su pueblo elegido, y por lo tanto estaba en contra de Sion. En los días de la dinastía de Nabucodonosor, rey de Babilonia, al parecer, se había tragado la nación escogida de Israel "como una serpiente grande" o Dragone. (Jeremías 51:34) El propósito de Babilonia era para acabar con Israel.   Nota: Si Babilonia ha "tragado" Israel ahora lleva su nombre, sino que es un engaño. Se llama "Israel", pero Babilonia. Se asegura de mezclar con Israel, el aspecto de la misma.   (Bf) Cómo semita mundo de encendido durante más de setenta años, era Babilonia, por supuesto, la política. Fue militarista. Fue altamente commercialistica. Pero fue muy religiosa  Si la gran Babilonia era una nación literal, la descripción anterior, que la nación parece describir hoy?  (Bf) Tan pronto como los sacerdotes babilonios podían convertir en dinero todos los sacrificios de animales y todos los diezmos religiosos que las personas tenían todos los días en los altares, sobre todo las cosas se deterioraron rápidamente. Al igual que en la ciudad natal de Abraham en Ur de los caldeos, las autoridades templarios tenían sus depósitos necesarios y dirigen sus propias tiendas. Se sentía bien para invertir sus ingresos religiosa y para ello tenían, por lo tanto, sus propios bancos.  Si se tratara de una nación literal, que nación parecería describir?  (Bf) ¿Cuál es, entonces, la gran Babilonia, cuya anunciada por la caída de Dios en Apocalipsis 14: 8? Debe parecerse a la antigua Babilonia de manera notable, sobre todo en el momento de su caída . De lo contrario, el nombre sería inapropiado. En primer lugar, la antigua Babilonia gobernó un imperio, el imperio más grande hasta ese momento, por lo que la línea de las potencias mundiales que era la tercera potencia mundial. Floreció la política, el militarismo, la comercialización y la religión, pero la religión predominaban, especialmente durante la dinastía de Nabucodonosor. Su religión lo colocó contra Sión o Jerusalén, donde los reyes judíos se sentaron en "el trono de Jehová" y donde el templo construido por el rey Salomón fue el centro nacional de culto de Jehová.  Si se tratara de una nación literal, que nación parecería describir?  (Bf) A pesar de que es un imperio religión, se convirtió en sí mismo alianzas comerciales y políticos y formados con los elementos políticos y comerciales de este tipo en todo el mundo.  Estas dos líneas, de alguna manera, desmienten la afirmación de que Babilonia la Grande no es también un imperio religioso (literal), política y comercial exactamente como lo fue la antigua Babilonia.  (Bf) Incluso el judaísmo ha unido a la gran Babilonia. En el siglo primero, Jesús y sus doce apóstoles aplican al judaísmo tradicional de sus diarios profecías de la Biblia que se refieren a Babilonia como un lugar de exilio y cautividad de la que el pueblo de Jehová le pidió que abandonara. Hace diecinueve siglos, cuando el Mesías vino a Sion, el judaísmo tradicional, prácticamente toda la nación se volvió contra él. Mantuvo su agarre en su camino prisioneros judíos. Hasta el día de hoy, el judaísmo tradicional no ha cambiado. Todavía conserva sus prisioneros judíos lejos de la libertad que el Mesías prometido.  (Bf) En 1914 EC Babilonia la Grande, o el imperio mundial de la religión de Babilonia, llegó a su período más crítico en la historia del mundo. Hasta entonces se había hecho, como dijo el ángel de Dios, "bebía todos los países de vino de la pasión de su fornicación" (Apocalipsis 14: 8) amigos que había hecho con los gobernantes políticos de este mundo y así se había comprometido con su fornicación espiritual. (Santiago 4: 4) Él había utilizado su influencia religiosa de los gobernantes mundanos para mantenerse en el poder. Se volvió el apoyo de sus religiosos a favor de los gobernantes mundanos gentiles. Esto ha hecho que las naciones beban el "vino de la pasión", es decir, la opresión política, el comercio y, persecución religiosa económica, las guerras santas, guerras religiosas, cruzadas, y las guerras de las naciones por razones puramente políticas y comerciales. Egoísta guerras Babilonia la Grande el santificado, declarando que eran la voluntad de Dios, por lo que la participación podría hacer su voluntad.  Si hablando de una nación literal, esa nación reflejaría perfectamente a esta descripción? La amistad con líderes políticos, la influencia religiosa en los gobernantes para retener el poder, la opresión política, el comercio mundial y, guerras santas económicas por razones políticas y comerciales, etc. También hay una contradicción (al menos en apariencia). Si la gran Babilonia cae por primera vez en 1919, como puede verse sentada sobre la bestia escarlata que se la Sociedad de Naciones creó el 28 de junio, 1919? Babilonia la Grande se puede ver sentado solamente después de la creación de la Liga y luego caer en un período aún más tarde , pero no antes.  (Bf) ¿Cuál es, entonces, la imagen de la bestia salvaje? Entre la Primera Guerra Mundial y la Segunda Guerra Mundial fue la Sociedad de Naciones, que llegó a tener hasta sesenta naciones miembros, como el culto a la imagen y la fiera era entonces tan grande ...  ALTR en aparente contr adición . La religión no es más que "la forma de culto." Ahora bien, si la gran Babilonia, el imperio mundial de la religión falsa (y por lo tanto incluye todo tipo de culto fuera de Jehová) esto debe incluir la adoración de la bestia salvaje. Por lo que debemos cambiar el tamaño del título "imperio mundial de la religión falsa", después de haber descartado, inevitablemente, el nacionalismo y el militarismo? El culto de la bestia salvaje? El nacionalismo no es una forma de religión?   otras consideraciones  Si se acepta la posibilidad de que Babilonia la Grande es un lugar literal (y es el moderno Israel) tenemos que tener en cuenta que incluso los montes, sobre los cuales se sienta la mujer, son montañas literales. Siempre hablamos de las siete potencias mundiales de la historia de la Biblia, pero nunca oímos de las siete montañas. Nunca se habla de las siete montañas porque los poderes políticos, dicen, son las siete montañas. Sin embargo, la escritura de Apocalipsis 17 dice que hay siete reyes ... y (conjunción, en italiano, significa "y también hay") siete montañas y esta conjunción podría sugerir que, a pesar de que las montañas representan el poder como bien sabemos , en realidad hay siete montañas como objetos de similitud con el número de reyes. Parecería una pista útil para identificar literal Babilonia la Grande. Ahora la pregunta es ... ¿Quién y cuántos montañas se mencionan en las Escrituras que eran parte de la tierra prometida? 1) Monte Moria 2) Mount Zion 3) montaje de aceitunas 4) Gilboa 5) Gerizim 6) Ebal 7) Monte Tabor. NB Monte Nebo y otros, también se menciona en las Escrituras, eran parte del territorio de Moab y Edom y por lo tanto están excluidos . Este paralelo es lugar original, simplemente imposible que ver con el imperio mundial de la religión falsa.  Apocalipsis 3:12 y otras escrituras que se cumplen después del Día del Señor, que mencionan los N huevos de Jerusalén, parecen hacer hincapié en una distinción con V Ecchia Jerusalén. En el cap. 18 de Apocalipsis, Babilonia la Grande es destruido. En el capítulo 19: 7, 8 prepara las bodas del cordero, así que ... Murió la prostituta que se hizo pasar por la novia y la boda puede haber comenzado finalmente. El matrimonio se lleva a cabo con la " Nueva Jerusalén "; la prostituta era quizás la " antigua Jerusalén ", es decir, lo carnal, impuro, desobedientes, idólatras? - I Corintios 9: 6-8; 10:18 - Gálatas 4: 26-29 Si tratara de un pueblo y una nación que pretende literal y que era el pueblo de Dios, a los que me gustaría ir a nivel nacional? Sólo las personas que en realidad era el pueblo de Dios tienen lo que se necesita, por así decirlo, para hacerse pasar por mujer legítima.  Babylon también se llama "la gran ciudad" y la única referencia bíblica es Nínive, "la ciudad de derramamiento de sangre". Esto parece estar en consonancia con el hecho de que Babilonia es ebria de la sangre de los santos, profetas y todo. Sin embargo, en el capítulo Jeremías. condena el 22 de Jehová de Judá, que es la ciudad de Salum y Joaquín, y la gente llama esta ciudad "la gran ciudad". Así, la ciudad que había pertenecido a la "gran ciudad" de Jehová se define.  Revelación 18: 1, 2 "Después de esto vi a otro ángel descender del cielo con gran poder; y la tierra fue alumbrada con su gloria 2  ! Y clamaban a gran voz, diciendo," Fallen Babilonia la Grande ha caído , y se convirtió en un lugar de habitación de demonios y un lugar de refugio para cada exhalación inmunda y lugar de refugio de toda ave sucia y aborrecible! " Esta descripción de trueno del ángel repitió tres veces la palabra "lugar": 1 ) morada de los demonios 2 ) lugar de refugio de cada exhalación impuro 3 ) lugar de refugio de toda ave sucia y aborrecible. Podemos suponer que, haciendo hincapié en tres veces la palabra "lugar" , está indicando un lugar / nación literal? Esta escritura puede reforzar la hipótesis de que la gran Babilonia es una nación literal?  De los dos testigos en tela de saco que se describen en el capítulo 11 de Apocalipsis dice que, una vez muerto, "sus cadáveres estarán en el camino ancho de la gran ciudad que en sentido espiritual se llama Sodoma y Egipto, donde también nuestro Señor fue puesto a polo "- Revelación 11: 8 ¿Qué "gran ciudad" el Señor Jesús fue empalado?  Finalmente, podríamos preguntarnos por qué, el escritor Revelación, después de ver animales salvajes de miedo, sorprendentes visiones celestes es hermoso que los estados atronadores terribles y muchas otras cosas, solamente los ojos de la mujer que "maravilla de la gran maravilla " - Revelación 17: 6 , 7 Obviamente, no podemos saber por qué sólo se pueden hacer hipótesis, pero en general uno se pregunta cuando ves algo que nunca se puede esperar ver. Es como si dijera ... "Pero es usted? ¿De verdad? Usted?" ¿Quién es? Puede haber "maravillado de grande admiración" por haber visto a su propio pueblo y su propia nación (que en ese momento no era más de la escritura Revelación)?   Puedo copiar y pegar lo que estaba diciendo la Atalaya del 1 de noviembre de 2010, páginas 27 a 29 ...  La Biblia predijo el moderno Estado de Israel? EL MUNDO mira con desconfianza a Oriente Medio. ataques de misiles, los enfrentamientos entre las milicias armadas y atentados terroristas se suceden a diario. En esta mezcla explosiva el riesgo muy real debe añadir que el recurso a las armas nucleares. No es de extrañar que en cualquier lugar la gente está preocupada. Un clima similar se respira en relación con el Oriente Medio hace 62 años, en mayo de 1948. El territorio del Mandato Británico entonces llamada Palestina llegaba a su fin, y la guerra era inminente. El año anterior, las Naciones Unidas han autorizado la creación, en una parte de los territorios ocupados, de un estado judío independiente . Las naciones árabes vecinos habían prometido para evitar a toda costa. La Liga Árabe advirtió: "La línea propuesta para la división no será más que una línea de fuego y sangre." Eran las cuatro de la tarde del Viernes 14 de mayo de 1948. Se consume las horas finales del mandato británico. En el Museo de Tel Aviv de los encuestados estaban en 350, en el secreto de invitación para el anuncio muy esperado: la declaración oficial del nacimiento de la nación moderna de Israel. Los niveles de seguridad eran altos, no sea que los numerosos enemigos del estado recién formado intentaron interrumpir el evento. David Ben Gurion, líder del Consejo Nacional de Israel, leyó la Declaración de Estado de la independencia de Israel, el cual dijo en parte: "Nosotros, los miembros del Consejo del Pueblo, representantes de la comunidad judía en la Tierra de Israel ... en virtud de nuestro derecho Asamblea natural e histórico y general de las Naciones Unidas, declaramos la fundación de un estado judío en Eretz Israel, que será conocido como el Estado de Israel". Cumplido la profecía bíblica? Algunos protestantes evangélicos creen que el nacimiento del moderno estado de Israel y luego ir a cumplir una profecía bíblica. Por ejemplo, en una de sus obras, el pastor John Hagee afirma: "Este evento memorable fue grabado por la mano del profeta Isaías con las palabras: 'Una nación nacerá en un día'. (Ver Isaías 66: 8 ). . . . Fue el momento más grande en la historia profética del siglo XX, la prueba más clara, bajo los ojos de todos, que el Dios de Israel estaba vivo y bien ". - Jerusalem Countdown. Esta afirmación es correcta? Isaías 66: 8 , tal vez predecir el nacimiento del moderno Estado de Israel? Y 14 de mayo, 1948 fue de hecho "el momento más grande en la historia profética del siglo XX"? Si el Estado moderno de Israel sigue siendo la nación escogida de Dios, y si por medio de ella se cumple la profecía de la Biblia, el tema es sin duda de gran interés para los estudiosos de la Biblia, dondequiera que se encuentren. La profecía de Isaías dice: "¿Quién ha oído hablar de una cosa así? ¿Quién ha visto cosas como éstas? Va a ser una tierra dio a luz con dolores de parto en un día? O una nación nacer a la vez? Por Sion que ha entrado en dolores de parto, ya que también dio a luz sus hijos ". ( Isaías 66: 8 ) El verso predice claramente el nacimiento de una nación que se habría producido de repente, como en un solo día. Pero, ¿quién se supone que debe dar este nacimiento? El siguiente verso ayuda a la respuesta: " 'En cuanto a mí, voy a romper y no voy a dar a luz? dice Jehová. 'O de dar a luz y hacer realidad deje de fumar?' dice tu Dios. " Jehová Dios muestra fuera de toda duda que el extraordinario nacimiento de la nación funcionaría suyo. Israel es una democracia moderna que nunca ha reclamado oficialmente a confiar en el Dios de la Biblia. En 1948, los israelíes podrían reconocer a Jehová Dios como el único sostén de sus entidades nacionales? No. En el proyecto original de la Declaración del nombre de Dios ni siquiera se mencionó, y además, incluso la palabra "Dios". Sobre el borrador final del documento, un libro de la historia judía dice: "Hasta que un punto de la tarde, cuando el Consejo Nacional se reunieron, sus miembros no pudieron ponerse de acuerdo sobre la redacción de la Declaración de Independencia. . . . Judios observantes querían que hace referencia a 'Dios de Israel'. Los laicos se oponían. Llegar a un compromiso, Ben Gurion optó por la palabra 'roca' en lugar de la palabra 'Dios' ". - Grandes momentos de la historia judía. El moderno Estado de Israel se enorgullece de su entidad nacional sobre la base de una resolución de la ONU y de lo que se llama el derecho natural e histórico del pueblo judío. Sin embargo, es razonable suponer que el Dios de la Biblia logra el milagro más grande destinada a cumplir una profecía en el siglo XX a favor de un pueblo que se niega a darle honor. La religión falsa ha dado honor al nacimiento de la nación de Israel como si fuera "la voluntad de Dios." Así que podemos decir que el nacimiento de esta nación ha creado una cierta "confusión"? Confusión en todos los que no conocen la Biblia. De ahí el nombre, "Babilonia", que sería apropiado para la nación moderna de Israel.  Aquí están los reflejos de algunos registros ya se ha visto explicado en el libro "revelación a su punto culminante" (rey).  "Salid de ella, pueblo mío" (explicación del libro "Rey") Revelación 18: 4 dice: "Y oí otra voz del cielo que decía: Salid de ella, pueblo mío, si no desea compartir con ella en sus pecados, y si no quieren recibir parte de sus plagas". El libro de "Revelación: su punto culminante", página 265 párrafo 24 dice que los siervos de Dios deben separarse de la religión falsa si no quieren recibir parte de sus plagas. Sin embargo podemos razonar sobre el significado de "mi pueblo"? Todo el mundo en la falsa religión, a pesar de tener las mejores intenciones, no se puede definir como "pueblo de Dios". Este hecho es una de las cosas que la gente del mundo que nos reprochan cuando dicen "Sólo que creen tener la verdad!". De hecho, se convierte en parte del pueblo de Dios sólo después de que la comprensión de las verdades básicas de la Biblia, después de haber arrepintió de la conducta del pasado, después de haber convertido y luego de haber dedicado, bautizados. ¿Es esto correcto? ¿Cómo puede Dios llamar a su pueblo de las filas de la religión falsa? Si Babilonia la Grande es el imperio mundial de la religión falsa debemos suponer necesariamente que Dios llama a los que se convertirá en su pueblo. Aquellas personas que podrían convertirse en su pueblo , pero que aún no están. Escritura, sin embargo, parece claro que, cuando se llama a estas personas "salir de Babilonia", que ya son su pueblo (al igual que sucedió en la antigüedad, que probablemente tuvieron que ser limpiados y disciplinado, pero se quedaron, todo el tiempo, su pueblo). Si Babilonia la Grande, sin embargo, es la moderna nación de Israel, entonces no hay mucho de interpretar. Incluso en la moderna nación de Israel son nuestros queridos hermanos. Y 'posible que Dios está diciendo a los hermanos en Israel, literalmente, a huir de distancia en la destrucción inminente visto? Esto significaría que "el resto", según ha informado muchas veces en las Escrituras, literalmente (físicamente) un remanente! Una restante para guardar.  Cuando en el año 70 los primeros cristianos recibieron la orden de "huir a las montañas" en vista de la destrucción que se llevaría a cabo por medio de la "cosa repugnante" (rapppresentata en el momento del Imperio Romano), entendieron como "separada del judaísmo" o esto era una consecuencia natural de las enseñanzas del Maestro? Ellos no entienden cómo quizá salir literalmente de la ciudad ?  Escribir Romanos 9:27, donde Pablo cita a Isaías, podría tener un cumplimiento literal?  Jeremías 25:10, 11 y Revelación 18:22, 23 son muy similares entre sí, sin embargo, Jeremías habla de Israel y Revelación habla de Babilonia la Grande.  En Apocalipsis 18: 5-8 dice: "Dios se ha acordado de sus actos de injusticia." Debido a que Dios "ha tenido en cuenta"? La religión falsa no ha siempre hecho mal en una historia de 6000, sin detenerse por un momento de la época de Nimrod? No podía ser debido a "Babilonia" no ha existido durante muchos años, como nación, pero aparece de nuevo después del "día del Señor" por otro nombre?  Del libro "Insight", en "Babilonia la Grande", dijo ... Características de la antigua Babilonia. La fundación de Babilonia, en las llanuras de Sinar coincidió con el intento de construir la torre de Babel. (Ge 11: 2-9) La construcción de la ciudad y por la torre de la gente no fue motivado por la intención de exaltar el nombre de Dios, sino por el deseo de 'hacer un nombre célebre'. Los descubrimientos zigurat no sólo en las ruinas de la antigua Babilonia, sino en toda la Mesopotamia parecen confirmar el carácter esencialmente religioso de la torre original, cualquiera que sea su forma o su estilo. La acción decidida de Jehová Dios para derribar la construcción del templo es una clara condena de su origen religioso falso. Mientras que el nombre hebreo de la ciudad, Babel, significa "confusión", el nombre sumerio ( Ka-ra-dingir ) y acadio (Bab-ilu ) significa tanto "la puerta de Dios." Por lo que las personas que quedan en la ciudad alteraron el nombre para evitar el significado original de la condena, pero el nuevo formulario también revela la naturaleza religiosa de la ciudad.  Lo que también se informó recientemente en las publicaciones de esclavos, la creación de la moderna nación de Israel y el regreso de los Judios en su casa no era la obra de Dios y, mucho más grave, no se hizo para dar gloria a Dios. por el contrario, todo esto se hizo para "el deseo de convertirse en un nombre famoso." La religión judía también todavía cree que es la "Puerta de Dios", pero es una mistificación de la realidad. No es una mujer legítima o una reina, pero, con sus alianzas políticas y comerciales, ha demostrado ser una prostituta sórdida (bíblicamente hablando).  En Apocalipsis 16: 16-21 nos encontramos ahora en el Armagedón, la gran ciudad se divide en tres partes, que caerán pueblos y Babilonia "fue recordada." Así Babilonia está relacionada con la caída de otras naciones , como si se tratara de una nación especial "" algo para recordar, pero sigue siendo una nación. Lo cual, en todas las naciones de la tierra , que podría ser considerado "especial" de Jehová Dios?  La copa de oro llena de "cosas repugnantes" por el gran mertetrice de mano podría recordar los utensilios de la casa de Dios? - Comparar Daniel 5: 1-4  En 2 Reyes 17: 24-30 algunos babilonios se convierten en "hijos de Israel" asentamiento en Samaria pero son idólatras babilonios y Dios les hace devorados por los leones. Esto no parece un paralelo con lo que la Biblia dice de Babilonia la Grande? También en el libro "Insight" a "Samaritano - La religión samaritana", dice ...  La religión samaritana.El desarrollo de la religión samaritana se debió a varios factores, entre ellos el resultado de los esfuerzos de Jeroboam para expulsar a las diez tribus por la adoración de Jehová centralizado en Jerusalén. En unos 250 años después de que la nación se dividió en dos reinos, los sacerdotes levitas ordenado por Dios fueron reemplazados por un sacerdocio de origen humano que, a su vez, condujo al reino de Israel a practicar una forma degradante de la idolatría. (1 Reyes 12: 28-33; 2 Reyes 17: 7-17; 2Cr 11: 13-15; 13: 8, 9), entonces hay fue la caída del reino del norte. Los inmigrantes paganos vinieron de Babilonia, de Cuta, de Ava, de Hamat y de Sefarvaim adoraban a muchos dioses: Sucot Benot, Nergal, Ashima, Nibaz, Tartak, Adramélec y Anammelec. A pesar de que han aprendido algo acerca de Jehová al enseñar a un cura del sacerdocio Jeroboam, sin embargo, Samaria como había hecho con los becerros de oro, por lo que, generación tras generación, seguido adorar a sus dioses falsos. (2 Reyes 17: 24-41) Casi un siglo después de la caída de Samaria, todos los intentos de Josías para eliminar el culto idolátrico de las comunidades del norte no tuvo un efecto más duradero de las reformas similares Jesús hizo en el reino del sur de Judá. - 2 Reyes 23: 4-20; 2Cr 34: 6, 7. En 537 BCE, un remanente de las doce tribus volvió de exilio de Babilonia preparado para reconstruir el templo de Jehová en Jerusalén. (Esdras 1: 3; 2: 1, 70) Fue entonces que el "samaritanos", que ya estaban en el país cuando llegaron los hijos de Israel y que fueron descritos como "enemigos de Judá y Benjamín," que se volvió a Zorobabel y para ancianos, diciendo: "Vamos a edificar con vosotros; porque, al igual que usted, buscamos tu Dios, y sacrificamos desde los días del rey Esarhadón de Asiria, que nos puso aquí ". (Esd 4: 1, 2) Esta supuesta dedicación a Jehová, sin embargo, mostró sólo formales; De hecho, cuando Zorobabel declinó la oferta, los samaritanos hicieron todo lo posible para evitar que la construcción del templo. Fallado todos los intentos concertados para hostigar e intimidar a los israelitas, emperador persa sí envió una carta con falsas acusaciones, y consiguió un decreto del gobierno que hizo suspender la construcción durante varios años. - Esdras 4: 3-24. A mediados del siglo V aC, cuando Nehemías comenzó la reparación de los muros de Jerusalén, Sanbalat (gobernador de Samaria, según un papiro de Elefantina) hizo varios intentos fallidos, pero enérgicas para detener la obra. (Ne 2:19, 20; 4: 1-12; 6: 1-15) Más tarde, después de una ausencia prolongada, Nehemías regresó a Jerusalén y encontró el nieto del sumo sacerdote Eliasib había casado con la hija de Sanbalat. Inmediatamente Nehemías lo persiguió lejos '. - Ne 13: 6, 7, 28.  "Los sacerdotes levitas ordenados por Dios fueron reemplazados por sacerdotes de origen humano" : esto no es lo que sucedió a Israel después de que Dios ha abandonado la nación infiel en el año 70? Los inmigrantes paganos vinieron de Babilonia a ser "hijos de Israel" por la fuerza (es decir, no por Dios), también aprender algo sobre la religión de los Judios, y mezclándose con ellos a través del matrimonio, pero básicamente tienen babilonios. Se puede suponer que Dios toma esta nación moderna como lo que realmente es, y que es una moderna Babilonia? En 537 aC, los "enemigos de Judá y Benjamín," se volvieron a Zorobabel, ya los ancianos, diciendo: "Vamos a edificar con vosotros; porque, al igual que usted, buscamos tu Dios, y sacrificamos desde los días del rey Esarhadón de Asiria, que nos puso aquí ". Así Babilonia, en el territorio de la verdadera Israel nunca ha desaparecido y nunca ha dejado de reclamar para servir a Dios.  En el libro "Revelación" en la página 207, párrafo 5, la explicación se ajusta muy bien a la nación moderna de Israel. Incluso ahora los Judios creen que son la raza escogida, el pueblo de Dios, ya Dios sus victorias militares y comerciales. Ellos creen que Dios les ha dado autoridad sobre todas las naciones del mundo, sino que, en las palabras del Señor, tener otro padre. - Mateo 4: 8-10 - Juan 8: 43-47 Aún dicen que "se sientan reina, y no soy viuda, y no veré duelo."  Pregunta uno. De acuerdo con la explicación del libro "Revelación: su clímax" es apropiado que la gran ramera sentarse en el escarlata fiera porque, religión falsa, siempre ha tenido el poder sobre los reyes de la tierra que llegan incluso a nombre de ellos y expulsarlos. Sabemos que la Liga o la Liga de las Naciones tiene como representantes incluso "antiguas naciones" que se menciona en la Biblia como Roma, Medo-Persia, y otros, pero no sería más lógico para ver la "gran ramera" montar la primera bestia salvaje, y que es el que asciende desde mar, ya que la falsa religión ha existido desde los tiempos de Nimrod? En cambio, la gran ramera se sienta en la bestia que " era, pero no es, y está a punto de ascender del abismo, y el tope en la destrucción " - Revelación 17: 8a Lo montó el imperio mundial de la religión falsa cuando la bestia no tenía?  La segunda pregunta. Como se ha señalado, en la Biblia de Israel se compara con una mujer, y dueño marital de Jehová. Cuando parecía ser infiel, en alianza con otras naciones y la mezcla con la adoración falsa, Israel se convirtió en "infiel" e incluso "prostituta". Cristiandad afirma servir a Dios, pero en realidad, es una prostituta con las naciones y en toda falsa doctrina de origen pagano. Sin embargo, si la gran Babilonia, el imperio mundial de la religión falsa (y por lo tanto también incluye religiones como el budismo, el sintoísmo, el hinduismo, religiones tribales, etc), ya que se considera como un todo, una prostituta? Jehová nunca ha sido identificado como el "dueño marital" de las naciones como Amón, Moab, Egipto o de otro tipo. Así que si aplicamos el concepto de la prostitución sólo en un sentido espiritual-religiosa, uno podría pensar que este infame prostituta es sólo el cristianismo .
  17. The world empire of false religion really is Babylon the Great? In that day earthling man will throw the shrews and bats his worthless gods of silver and his gold valueless gods they had done because he inchinasse before them, to enter into the holes of the rocks and in crevices of the rocks , because of the fear of Jehovah and in front of his splendid superiority, when he rises to shake the earth - Isaiah 2:20, 21 Â According to the official intention is Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion. This empire will be destroyed by the United Nations marking the beginning of the great tribulation - Matthew 24:21, 22; Daniel 12: 1 The great tribulation is not Armageddon, or the war of the great day of God Almighty, but it will be a period of intermediate time which will lead to such a war. According to the current understanding, Armageddon will be the "culmination" of the great tribulation. Based on this assumption it becomes clear that, during the great tribulation, this phantom empire of false religion will no longer exist. For this reason, in reference to the writing of Revelation 6: 15-17, which clearly speaks of judgment on the part of Jehovah and the Lamb, the book "Revelation its climax" says: "The opening of the sixth seal shows something similar will happen during the intervener day of Jehovah's anger. in the final scroll speed of this system of things land, his supporters desperately seek a hiding place, but will not find it. the false religion, Babylon the Great, will have already abandoned them miserably . neither the caverns literal mountains nor the political and commercial organizations comparable to the mountains will provide economic security or assistance of another kind "(quoted work, page 112, paragraph 29). It 'obvious that, talking about mountains, the book does not mention religion as a possible institution in which to seek refuge because, as we said, this would now be destroyed at the beginning of the great tribulation (and here we are already at Armageddon). Interestingly, the same book mentions Hosea 10: 8 which says ... "And the high places of [Bet-] Aven, the sin of Israel, will actually be annihilated. Thorns and thistles themselves up on their altars. And people actually say to the mountains, 'Cover us!' and to the hills, 'Fall over us!' "but does not mention the context of this writing. Paragraph 27 of the book mentioned above simply says that "when Samaria fell to the cruel Assyrians in 740 BCE, there was no place where the Israelites could escape. The words of Hosea expresses the sense of helplessness, absolute terror and abandonment that the conquered people felt. neither the literal nor the hills of Samaria institutions comparable to the mountains could protect them, although in the past had seemed so stable. " Too bad that "these institutions" were nothing more than their false religion, the main reason was done just that judgment. If we read the verse 5 it says ... "The residents of Samaria will be afraid to [the idol] calf of Beth-Aven; because on it certainly will mourn his people, as well as its foreign-god priests [which] they rejoiced, because of its glory, because it will have gone into exile away from it. " So the parallel is done with Revelation is at least in part because, unlike the Samaritans of Hosea's time, these may not seek refuge in religion. By the way, if we go on reading the same book, another parallel is done with the Lord's words when he said, "" They are the days when you will say, 'Happy are the barren, and the breasts that never bore and the breasts that never nursed! ' Then they will begin to say to the mountains, 'Fall over us!' and to the hills, 'Cover us!' "- Luke 23:29, 30 So says the book "The Jews remained in Judea found no hiding place." Now it would have to ask ... "Where will never have sought refuge, the Jews, in those dramatic and terrible hours?" The answer is obvious. In the Temple and in their religion. Religion or "form of worship" that now had stopped to have God's approval. We have seen, in a previous article, that when the Bible speaks of mountains or "high places", these often have to do with false religion as we can see, for example, Ezekiel 6: 1-5 It 'obvious assert that if we had the absolute certainty that the world empire of false religion must be dropped before reading Revelation 6: 15-17 would think that people will seek refuge in political institutions and religious exactly as happened in past all the times that Jehovah brought a judgment. Among other things, reflecting on the destruction of Jerusalem, the subject on which we always do dozens of parallel, we see how Jehovah's judgment coincided with the destruction of the Temple (the Lord clearly said "these are days to do it justice" - Luke 21:22) . The destruction of the Temple marked the end of the Jewish religion, at least in a highly symbolic, even from the point of view of any outsider. If we wanted to find a perfect parallel with what we think we know about the revelation, then we should have seen the destruction of the Temple and then, after a number of years , the destruction of Jerusalem and its inhabitants. If the destruction of Jerusalem depicts what will happen globally during the war of Armageddon, what depicts the destruction of the Temple? Leaving the sensitivity of each of its assessments and trying not to make forcing, let's see what it can teach us all that "was written before" - Romans 15: 4 As we can see from the writing guide of this article, at some point people " getter year to shrews and bats their worthless gods" . When? "In that day," says the writing, that "when he rises to shake the earth" - Isaiah 2:20, 21 At this point we have a problem. If "that day" is the day of Armageddon, that is, it is well beyond the time when false religion has been destroyed, how can they still have idols of silver and gold? If we read from verse 10 we can isolate some important expressions such as "Jehovah alone is to be exalted in that day. For it is the day belonging to Jehovah of armies," He is "over all the cedars of Lebanon that are high and lifted up and upon all the massive trees of Bashan; and all the high mountains and all the hills are high; and on every lofty tower and every fortified wall. " There is no doubt: we are talking of Armageddon judgment as the same book "Prophecies of Isaiah" recognize (see the book "Prophecies of Isaiah, Volume 1, p. 53, 54). But if you are talking about Armageddon ... "on that day" is the same day in which people now disillusioned, cast at the last moment their gods of silver and gold. So there is still a religion? Imagining the objections of those who always try to balance things even when things do not fit, we can see what it says the same book a little 'later. Some might say "Religion will no longer exist as an institution ... but there will always be of the believers." This objection would have no reason to exist as a religion (or cult or however we want to call it) exists when there are two human beings who believe the same thing and organize themselves to worship, but let's see what he says Isaiah 19: 3 . "And the spirit of Egypt must become bewildered in the midst of it, and I will confound his own advice. And I will resort to the valueless gods and to the charmers and to the spirit mediums and those who predict the events for a living." In this regard, again the book "Prophecies of Isaiah," says ... "Similarly, in the day of judgment, false religion will be unable to save this corrupt system." At this point we have an even more serious problem with respect to our current understanding? If Egypt depicts Satan's world as a whole (in fact, in verse 2 writing says that Jehovah will "Egyptian against Egyptian"), is a further reference to the judgment of Armageddon and, at this juncture, the book says "the day of judgment, false religion will be unable to save this corrupt system. " So we are no longer talking about "isolated individual believers who trust in idols" but of people ranging from those who by profession predict events. If there is trade, there is also an institution or not? Let's talk about "that day" in the words of the Lord when He said, "Many will say to me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, and in Your expel demons name, and in Your name perform many powerful works ? ' And then I will confess to them: I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness "- Matthew 7:22, 23 Of what day I was talking about the Lord? Well, if we read the context there, Jesus mentions the false prophets, which are then also mentioned, namely Chapter 24, when he is speaking of the last days of the system of things - compare Matthew 24:24 It 'clear, therefore, that "that day" is the day when humanity comes before Christ for judgment. Some of these, or many of them at the last moment they will say ... "Do not we prophesy in your name and in your name expelled demons, and in Your name done many wonderful works?" But how can you say that if we start from the principle that false religion has been eliminated? Unless we do not want to apply this script to the people of God , or the ones who have continued to hold on to the last religion remained, we must necessarily assume that until the last moment there are worshipers of some kind. Indeed ... we will worship believe him, until the last moment, to do the will of God! - Compare John 16: 2 Who will ever, these worshipers, and where they will come from? If we compare Matthew 24:23, 24 and 2 Thessalonians 2: 4, 5 and Revelation 13: 11-15, they are the worshipers of the wild beast with lamb's horns (or false prophet) who is impersonating for God and lead us astray "those who dwell on earth." This beast, in fact, remains alive until the last moment of divine judgment and all the people who will worship his own demise - Revelation 19:20 Religion, therefore, will continue to exist until the last moment of divine judgment but will undergo a substantial change. Responding to the post title, therefore, " the world empire of false religion really is Babylon the Great ?" Obviously not, if we take it for granted that it will be destroyed before Armageddon. Instead of false religion will be destroyed at the last moment, when it will become clear who is the True God, unfortunately for all those who are not deemed worthy to know Him before His judgment - Matthew 13:14, 15; 2 Thessalonians 2: 8: Revelation 19:20 Who is Babylon the Great, and how and when it will be destroyed? Who is really interested in pursuing this subject, you may find useful the article shown in the following link
  18. People of "noble mind" are those who carefully study the scriptures. The Bible was written for all mankind. The Bible teaches that if you seek truth with constancy and impregnation, you find it - Proverbs 2: 1-5 Each of us, individually, has the duty to study the Bible. Judgment will also be a personal thing. If any of you prefer to believe that they are always "the others" to study and dig for you, you are free to believe it. Unfortunately this is not what the Bible teaches. If you think that every topic should be tested with the scriptures, okay. If, on the contrary, you think you do not have to study, look for and understand why "there are other people in charge of doing so", I'm sorry for you. Perhaps one day you will find that the Bible encouraged you to study and understand it personally. I have nothing else to add because these conversations are a waste of time. Those of noble mind, such as the Bereans, will seek in the Bible if an affirmation is true or false
  19. I'm not a fan of Martin Luther but the principle of studying the Bible and being guided by it is valid.
  20. "Because Your Majesty and Your Lordships want a unambiguous answer, I will answer without ambiguity and without bitterness. Unless I am convinced with Scripture and with clear reasoning (since I do not accept the authority of popes and conciliators who contradicted each other), my conscience is bound to the Word of God. I can not and I do not want to retract anything because it is not right or healthy to go against conscience. Here I am. I can not do otherwise. God help me. Amen". Martin Lutero
  21. Dear brothers, you should not blend the nonsense of numerologists or persecute prophecies with biblical scriptures. Be clear that I disown these people and these religions. The article may be fair or contain errors, but the only thing we need to do is understand whether the subject is a personal idea or is supported by the Scriptures of the Bible. There are many false prophecies and many false prophets for which it is right to be cautious. However, "being cautious" does not mean that we have to close the Bible and not strive to understand. We can all compare the scriptures, is not it? We all have the Bible, is not it? We do not pass to the other extreme! The only true authority is the Bible and each of us has the chance to understand it. We can do an honest Bible examination without prejudice. The article can be questioned but it must be done through the scriptures. I invite you to take every single affection and test it in the light of biblical truth - John 17:17 If there are mistakes, then let us help ourselves to understand something more but do not adopt a superficial and passive attitude towards prophecies. If the prophecies have been written, it is evident that we can understand them.
  22. Ok. I found some distonctions and even missing voices (like the duration of the war in heaven and other things. However keep digging, dear brothers, because what happened in Russia on 20 April 2017 could be a prophecy that has come true and is happening. Have a look. If the prohibition extends to other nations, consider your concerns.
  23. Thanks Noble Berean for your answer and for pasting the pattern. The speech of 1290 and 1335 days is much longer and it is perfectly matched by Daniele's "2300 evenings and mornings". Now I save the image you posted and I'll check if it matches my research or if there are distonctions. Thank you
  24. Dear Brothers, we must make sure of everything in the light of scripture - 1 Thessalonians 5:21; 2 Corinthians 13: 5 I am willing to question any statement. I'm not inspired and I have no pretending infallibility. However, it is incorrect to have a passive attitude towards prophecies and the Bible in general - 1 Thessalonians 5:20 We have the duty of studying the Bible, meditating and praying to understand it. it is wrong to think that the others must always be doing it for us. We have a responsibility. I want to remember that even the judgment will be personal - Romanos 14:10 What has been written can be objected and discussed. I am willing to discuss and even retract if Scripture convinces me that we must do it. Unfortunately, many brothers have an attitude of subjection to the one who takes the directive. You can not object, you can not discuss anything that comes "from above". Does our total loyalty go to a group of people or to the word of God? The Word of God says that we must seek, dig, engage - Proverbs 2: 1-5 Some prophecies are fulfilling under our nose and almost no one realizes it. Kids wait for someone to tell them what to do. But God has given us the Bible and said to use our faculty to reason. If anyone wants to contest the article is free (and encouraged) to do so. Together we can get to understand something more. However, every challenge must have the support of the Bible. it is pointless to make a "political forum" where everyone says what he thinks. Every subject must be supported by sacred scriptures.
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