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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Thinking in EXJWs Are Going to the U.S. Capitol   
    A shy away from 100; within range, but in the eyes of those who watch and observe various protests, it is a miniscule number, essentially, a single white peddle that are hard to see in a large pond containing other rocks. The irony is they claim they had more than that, which is wrong because even their own attested otherwise. This is similar to a Pro-Israel group that was protesting sometime ago, who had around 88-100 people, but because of the few MSMs out there that supports Israel, they claim the number of protesters was in the thousands, when that is not true.
    As I said, it is simply a repeat, as stated. Same case with the actions that took place (minus JW church raids), disgruntled EXJWs attacking not just JWs, but also former EXJWs that do not side with what JWs deem as apostasy. Not only that, they also attack onlookers who do not believe protesting against a religion is a sane idea, in fact, comments regarding that are very interesting. The protest also exposes that, which was speculated, but now known as true, that EXJWs, most have a political leaning, and there is only one side that is not too cool with Christian Values.



    Meanwhile, Pro-Palestine Protesters have taken the United States of America by storm, mainly Washington DC, this is why disgruntled EXJWs were mistaken for Pro-Palestine Protesters.
    As mentioned, some disgruntled ones felt that they did not make a big impact, hence why they are pressing the idea that Jehovah's Witnesses were somehow connected with Israel or affiliated with Zionism, some even take it a step further to say JWs are part of the NWO (despite them being in opposition with religions that seek to unify), they do this in hopes that anyone who supports Palestine, would target them. Elsewhere, some neighborhood watch commenter mentioned there was a car that kept passing around one of the JW Churches ion Jersey. For example, should something happen to any JW Church because of this, disgruntled ones will take the situation and blame it on JWs themselves (which is no surprised with what they brought up regarding the bombing in India). That alone should tell you something.
    That being said, it is also discovered some disgruntled ones became apostates for some of the stupidest reasons. Apparently, someone who is subscribed to John Cedars was exposed for lying, he said he left the JW faith because of the teachings.... But in reality, he really left because some woman in the JW faith rejected his advances, therefore, he joins the rank of the disgruntled EXJWs. Another, who became disgruntled because all she wanted to do was partake in high levels of Spiritism induced media, and as you already know, such is backed by other disgruntled ones.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from TrueTomHarley in Can JW Television (digital news) be trusted?   
    This is somewhat true, hence why I am not too keen of AI and or agendas, especially AI. But what I had noticed over the years, any organization that the Left sides with (this goes for Alt groups too), they are not has harsh with specific groups and or faiths when something bad happens, even a crime among members, this goes for the religious folks on their side, you wouldn't catch PBS bashing their own in this regard.
    Now, if it is something that they are against, they are quick to attack, mock, and formulate narratives to try and cast doubt and crush one's hope and or faith, for example, Trump Followers, MAGA, of which they preach are all cultist and evil because they noted a few bad folks among them, but the same people will not say a single word about ANTIFA, of how, recently, they attacked parents who want to defend their kids from an already, for a long time now, corrupt Higher Education System.
    Regarding Jehovah's Witnesses, the assumption on the Left is that JWs are Conservatives whereas disgruntled EXJWs will tell you JWs are Left-Wing, when in reality, they are neutral, or in this case, apolitical like other groups. Reasons why whenever there is News, anything breaking, Fox News (pre-Tucker Carlson) for example, are not as harsh with them because of views of religious freedom and the like, mainly when any member of the JW faith commits a crime, they focus the attention of the person who committed the crime, and will be in the middle in some things. Now you go to the Left or any Alt side, they go on full attack mode, hence why you see Left-Wing outlets like Atlantic, Guardian, CNN, etc. stick to one side. The reality is majority of EXJWs rely on Left Wing sources and speakers. Now current Jehovah's Witnesses, have among them who are gullible when it comes to the MSM, and although neutral, a few of them may bear some level of influence by the Agenda the MSM pushes, to a degree, some even succumb to conspiracy theory rather of what is true, this is the same with the EXJW counterpart who are far more quick to accept something (we see many examples of this here on the forums)
    That being said, the Wild Beast, the UN making a move that will change the lives of many very soon, and I can tell you now, that what they have in store, will result in the same paradigm of one side vs the other, and people will get caught in the crossfire, among the people caught, many will be among the JWs and EXJWs collectively, if they do not tread carefully.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from JW Insider in Can JW Television (digital news) be trusted?   
    This is somewhat true, hence why I am not too keen of AI and or agendas, especially AI. But what I had noticed over the years, any organization that the Left sides with (this goes for Alt groups too), they are not has harsh with specific groups and or faiths when something bad happens, even a crime among members, this goes for the religious folks on their side, you wouldn't catch PBS bashing their own in this regard.
    Now, if it is something that they are against, they are quick to attack, mock, and formulate narratives to try and cast doubt and crush one's hope and or faith, for example, Trump Followers, MAGA, of which they preach are all cultist and evil because they noted a few bad folks among them, but the same people will not say a single word about ANTIFA, of how, recently, they attacked parents who want to defend their kids from an already, for a long time now, corrupt Higher Education System.
    Regarding Jehovah's Witnesses, the assumption on the Left is that JWs are Conservatives whereas disgruntled EXJWs will tell you JWs are Left-Wing, when in reality, they are neutral, or in this case, apolitical like other groups. Reasons why whenever there is News, anything breaking, Fox News (pre-Tucker Carlson) for example, are not as harsh with them because of views of religious freedom and the like, mainly when any member of the JW faith commits a crime, they focus the attention of the person who committed the crime, and will be in the middle in some things. Now you go to the Left or any Alt side, they go on full attack mode, hence why you see Left-Wing outlets like Atlantic, Guardian, CNN, etc. stick to one side. The reality is majority of EXJWs rely on Left Wing sources and speakers. Now current Jehovah's Witnesses, have among them who are gullible when it comes to the MSM, and although neutral, a few of them may bear some level of influence by the Agenda the MSM pushes, to a degree, some even succumb to conspiracy theory rather of what is true, this is the same with the EXJW counterpart who are far more quick to accept something (we see many examples of this here on the forums)
    That being said, the Wild Beast, the UN making a move that will change the lives of many very soon, and I can tell you now, that what they have in store, will result in the same paradigm of one side vs the other, and people will get caught in the crossfire, among the people caught, many will be among the JWs and EXJWs collectively, if they do not tread carefully.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Thinking in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    Agendas are met to spread deception and confuse the people. They are met to re-write what we know, be it history or Scripture. The Higher Education System is flawed and the unaware cannot see the dangers of that of which has been taking place for years, only a few witness this, even those in middle and high school.
    Those children in the video are in the clear, however, there is still a battle in the other institutions, especially those who are heavily Agenda-laced. Not only young souls will be able to battle the system, let alone their parents granted the battle with the Board of Education that was ongoing for months now, even after the CSA situation in Loudon County, and the situation with CRT.
    These kids are going to witness a future that no one should if not prepared, the only way for them to move carefully is if an aware parent raises them. This is why God has given people the ability to teach the young not only to be a better person, but to understand who God is. They won't learn from these Agendas, as is from an unaware parent who is a sheeple to the system, and you can't blame the parent because the system has blinded them.
    In short, prevent them from adhering to the cults of which one can quickly become woke, as mentioned before, these are legitimate cults, something of which explained to you and Rook.
    That said be very careful of the Paradigm's Agenda, although you JWs are not part of it, but it is very easy for someone to fall, give in and or break, especially now with the kinetic escalation.
    The last thing you need is someone teaching one of your own that Jehovah and Jesus are somehow non-binary, there are people doing this, just so you know.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Thinking in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    @BroRando As pointed out some days ago, the Wild Beast made a move as is those who encircle it, a considerable one this time concerning what some of us have noted to happen a while back concerning the EU. The normal you once knew is legitimately never coming back. Not only the kinetic events, but due to the tiers of persons and the escalation of specific category of civil obedience, things are legitimately going to be extremely different. Economically, RICO was executed.
    You should now be planning how you will tread your step accordingly, and like with any major situation of which these absurd Agendas effect the people, it will break some folks, to others even more, as with your faith community. Therefore, Endurance is key.
    That being said, things are going to get more hectic and burdensome should a major ill step is taken, making the New Normalcy, a dark one.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Thinking in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    Well those associated with the Wild Beast has taken recent actions. I allude to that every time I mentioned Freedom vs. Compliance. As said in the past in regards to some events, even the likelihood of Civil Disobedience committed by the people, is true.
    Those who are admiring the beast will slowly but surely sparkle in a level of Authoritarianism, although the US upholds the Constitution, Authoritarianism is only slowed down by it, as of recent, the Constitution isn't going to hold up any longer against it compared to other countries who do not have, who fall easy.
    The thing is the danger was evident, I remember explaining to you the groups on the Left and Right and their actions would lead up to not only Biden's presidential victory, but what will transpire after it, those who seek to re-write history. Likewise with the events of Russia and Ukraine, which I talked about a lot in the past.
    That being said, in regards to the beast, they seem to have a focus on children/the youth, and they have some plans in place granted, the higher education system is already infected. Reasons why Truthers deem the public school system, some of them, as an indoctrination camp, due to the fact of how out reaching the government, as with Biden is, even now, in regards to it.
    Better to be ready for the roaming bear so you can evade danger and steady your step vs an unaware man who is about to turn the corner to a furious Yogi Bear. - Proverbs 22:3.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Thinking in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    What was deemed normal is done away with, the new normalcy, you will have to adapt to. Some can break, some do not, hence endurance. Unfortunately there are things taking place in the background, for usually the unaware are taken by this because their guard is down.
    Those of the paradigm, even those who Conform to the Entities in the system will evidently be even more embolden now should you confront them, for instance, in the coming months, even years, the higher education system will need to be treaded carefully because the, their coming for our children manta, is a real danger, so much so, even in the realm of faith, people will be challenged by not just the paradigm, but those in government. Those blinded by the paradigm's idea of inclusion and diversity are also blind, and they themselves will be another danger to the youth and others.
    That being said, this new normalcy has messed up even the unaware, even, as stated prior, which was predicted, broken some people, even among JWs. This can be equated to when the Israelites were in the Wilderness, some continue, some will break. The question is now, since the Wild Beast has taken recent action in the past few days, what will be your next move and how would you guide your step? That is a decision of which you will have to make.
     
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    I spoke to soon, recent events will put people to the test, therefore, your move and your step is vital in this new normalcy, mainly if you are in the US/Canadian area. For said events, as mentioned before, will hit you or anyone indirectly.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Pudgy in My Sister Won’t Accept My Same-Sex Partner. What Should I Do?   
    Pharisees used lies in the face of the Christ, but, the trick question was to root out a reasoning. So you linking that to the Pharisees was false, and it shows willful error
    If you want to go down that route, I can easily quote you for Romans 12:9 which you used said verse to defense problematic issues that is not of God's favor. Man of God you say, but you do not abide by context, therefore you said what you said because you fled from the question.
    Utter Pharisees again, and I will gladly link your quote.
    That being said, while you were in hiding, the general public do interact with homosexuals in the workplace or in public, and to the homosexuals they are not psychic, they do not who you are or your views of homosexuality, therefore, if one asks you, you are in a position to explain to the person as to why you can't do this or that, in this trick question - why a Christian should not involve himself with such things, and how to convey to the homosexual the reason.
    Quite the hypocritical mindset, on your part, Butler.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Thinking in Is Easter Really a Christian Celebration? ??   
    The Holiday is Pagan, end of story.
    You do not have to be religious, and or a man of God, or of any faith community, such as JWs, to realize this.
    Those who deem it otherwise, simply want to add to the Church, not realizing what they are doing is unwise, and those who know and do this willingly, even making excuses to partake, well, the White Throne is waiting for them - Revelation 20:11-15.
    That being said, you are either for God and his Christ or the World and it's God. There is no middle ground. Do what you can to remain on the correct side.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Pudgy in My Sister Won’t Accept My Same-Sex Partner. What Should I Do?   
    @Patiently waiting for Truth @ApostaBabe Linda James It would seem as to what was told to both of you in this regard, as a forewarning, is starting to become like a plague, increased intensity in 2023 and onward, to the point people are now realizing the actions of the people, this also includes a few allys of the disgruntled EXJWs, are doing in various institutions, even the higher education system itself, which is doing a lot of the pushing. Next time it would make sense to listen, rather than ignore and play it off as if there is no threats around when things start to open back up and or push for woke inclusivity as a means to target the youth.
    As for religious lines, they, those with intent, already perverted the Christ. The entirety of this month, those who do not support the agendas, are targeted, Muslims, Catholics, us Biblical Unitarians, and yes, even Jehovah's Witnesses, granted, among the EXJW supporters, has a huge following with the LGBTQ community who advocates for this nonsense. Not to mention Babylon pushing some churches to include notions of the LGBTQ into their churches, hence why I always speak of this Desmond is amazing character, whom someone, even among the chosen, had to deal with. It should also be noted that NBC (a branch of the MSM), who seemingly support most EX members of a faith, are, defending the behaviors of those involved in recent events regarding children, willingly.
    That being said, perhaps next time, actually understand and pay attention, to be this gullible to the actions of those in the world who would love nothing more than to kill Biblical values and or morals speaks volume, especially now, granted, we are at the brink of war, and society is becoming more Godless by the day, and in the end, the very people who prey on children in all parts of the world will be accepted, and it will be a very bad paradigm for everyone else.
    The videos speak for themselves concerning the outrage.
     
     
    This will be the last time this will be mentioned to you, Butler, because failing to see a problem and brushing it off is a problem, which is the Agenda itself.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Pudgy in Is Easter Really a Christian Celebration? ??   
    The Holiday is Pagan, end of story.
    You do not have to be religious, and or a man of God, or of any faith community, such as JWs, to realize this.
    Those who deem it otherwise, simply want to add to the Church, not realizing what they are doing is unwise, and those who know and do this willingly, even making excuses to partake, well, the White Throne is waiting for them - Revelation 20:11-15.
    That being said, you are either for God and his Christ or the World and it's God. There is no middle ground. Do what you can to remain on the correct side.
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    Space Merchant reacted to Mic Drop in The Media is Lying to Us All...   
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Thinking in Missing persons surge, something to be aware of, just a heads up   
    I take things regarding missing persons, even with children, with concern, as do others in the community I am apart of, some of which, in said community go above and beyond to deal with such issues. As I mentioned, back in 2021-2022, when places start to open up, there will be people who will target folks even the youth, physically and or mentally, among said stuff I talk about, this has been taking place recently, there is nearly 30+ children reported as missing in Cleveland during first 2 weeks of May (this factors out those who are not US citizens such as Mexicans or Ukrainians, although in their case it is grave), and it is stated to have been a surge, some believe this has links to human trafficking, which I do not fault them for believing.
    That being said, although it is one area, something of this nature can spread to other areas, so be very careful, as is vigilant out there. Watch yourself and those around you, mainly if you do have folks who can be unaware of such things.
    The below is what I can find for now, regarding this situation, surprisingly, most of media do not even talk about this stuff.
     
     
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Thinking in The Fall Of Antony Morris III A Mystery?   
    Not all of them, remember, there are EXJWs who are 100% against Apostate EXJWs, hence the community in question which I alluded to a few minutes ago. The reason they are more isolated because they are often being attacked by disgruntled JWs over the years, such as the Rick Fearon types or by persons mentioned by @Witness here, like Marcus Vaughn. Although these EXJWs are no longer of the faith community, even gave legitimate reasons, even their expelling, they still retain moralistic views, which explains why they can speak, even converse with current JWs on a grounded level without a lot of the nonsense.
    That being said, outside of the Morris thing, these JWs and EXJWs have been talking about a specific ally of the disgruntled JWs, which is resulting in people rising up against said ally. As for their thoughts on Morris, the majority noted he stepped down, some even now are speaking about what appears to be his son, who did something recently. It should be noted he is a Vietnam Vet, so health issues is also another factor.
    The only reason you barely hear of this is because they are overshadowed by the disgruntled ones, same case with any Bible Student group or simply students of Scripture caught in the crossfire, such as Reslight, Simon Brown, and many more.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Thinking in The Fall Of Antony Morris III A Mystery?   
    There is more information elsewhere, ironically a grounded community of which JWs and EXJWs who do not want to deal with apostates of the faith, who spoke of this concerning this religious leader. From what I was able to gather thanks to someone there, although he is no longer of the body of religious leaders of Jehovah's Witnesses, he is most likely still among them. It should be noted that the person who uploaded the video was among the fold that took part in an attack against an Ex-bible student, child abuse survivor, so the person the uploader is affiliated with, need not worry much.
    It was also mentioned by many, even Aubrey who now goes by the name @Dandelion Friend here that his videos were removed, this is false because as of recent, the sermons regarding this person can still be found even archived.
    That being said, I always assumed the unaware folks are gullible outside of a faith, but it seems that anyone who takes the word of someone like the uploader, are just as gullible, when they, even the person in question, the apostate, has little to not information, and thrives off of speculation.
     
    Exodus 23:1 - Do not spread false reports.

    A verse that fly past the heads of many apparently. People make false reports and or speculative notions do so to gain support, recognition and listeners, not realizing they will cause more harm than good, be it the MSM or someone else.
     
    Next thing you know, probably some random disgruntled person will say that this religious leader roams NYC at night, fighting crime with the teenage mutant ninja turtles, and get this, people will believe it, at the same level as those who believe CNN to be trusted news.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Fausto Hoover in The Fall Of Antony Morris III A Mystery?   
    There is more information elsewhere, ironically a grounded community of which JWs and EXJWs who do not want to deal with apostates of the faith, who spoke of this concerning this religious leader. From what I was able to gather thanks to someone there, although he is no longer of the body of religious leaders of Jehovah's Witnesses, he is most likely still among them. It should be noted that the person who uploaded the video was among the fold that took part in an attack against an Ex-bible student, child abuse survivor, so the person the uploader is affiliated with, need not worry much.
    It was also mentioned by many, even Aubrey who now goes by the name @Dandelion Friend here that his videos were removed, this is false because as of recent, the sermons regarding this person can still be found even archived.
    That being said, I always assumed the unaware folks are gullible outside of a faith, but it seems that anyone who takes the word of someone like the uploader, are just as gullible, when they, even the person in question, the apostate, has little to not information, and thrives off of speculation.
     
    Exodus 23:1 - Do not spread false reports.

    A verse that fly past the heads of many apparently. People make false reports and or speculative notions do so to gain support, recognition and listeners, not realizing they will cause more harm than good, be it the MSM or someone else.
     
    Next thing you know, probably some random disgruntled person will say that this religious leader roams NYC at night, fighting crime with the teenage mutant ninja turtles, and get this, people will believe it, at the same level as those who believe CNN to be trusted news.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Fausto Hoover in Can JW Television (digital news) be trusted?   
    Those soldiers most likely did not know any better, and what transpired after that, when Jesus was no more (Matthew 27:50-54). One of them wised up and said afterwards, Certainly this was God’s Son.
    As for today, present day, people can fake forgiveness and or repentance, to not be observant of that, and to even attest to how the Mainstream sees such things, will enable more problems vs those who are not as vigilant outside of the Mainstream, many of these examples exist, even professed here.
    That being said, I was dealing with some immoral folks (I am sure you heard the news, what I told Butler and @ApostaBabe Linda James came to fruition), debating them, so I got lost as to where this thread went to, from News to ARC, and suddenly repentance and 1975 again, which, ironically, can easily be shut down with a single question and recent actions of some about Russia.
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    Space Merchant reacted to Mic Drop in Missing persons surge, something to be aware of, just a heads up   
    Wow! Thank you for bringing attention to this problem. So sad.
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    Space Merchant reacted to Mic Drop in Pfizer paid Anderson Cooper $12M to push the Covid19 vaccine   
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Mic Drop in Missing persons surge, something to be aware of, just a heads up   
    I take things regarding missing persons, even with children, with concern, as do others in the community I am apart of, some of which, in said community go above and beyond to deal with such issues. As I mentioned, back in 2021-2022, when places start to open up, there will be people who will target folks even the youth, physically and or mentally, among said stuff I talk about, this has been taking place recently, there is nearly 30+ children reported as missing in Cleveland during first 2 weeks of May (this factors out those who are not US citizens such as Mexicans or Ukrainians, although in their case it is grave), and it is stated to have been a surge, some believe this has links to human trafficking, which I do not fault them for believing.
    That being said, although it is one area, something of this nature can spread to other areas, so be very careful, as is vigilant out there. Watch yourself and those around you, mainly if you do have folks who can be unaware of such things.
    The below is what I can find for now, regarding this situation, surprisingly, most of media do not even talk about this stuff.
     
     
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from TrueTomHarley in Can JW Television (digital news) be trusted?   
    Or possible the bombshell that is Facebook/Instagram (which was mentioned to Butler as a forwarning) that has recently taken place, and or some diabolical stuff regarding CSA that is associated with other media, even the schools; hence why I believe people such as Mel Gibson, will eventually be a media focus in the coming days or weeks.
    Among other things, there is the Non-Institutional stuff that is taking place, which, compared to schools and churches, can often times be as complex to deal with like the social media stuff.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Pudgy in Can JW Television (digital news) be trusted?   
    Or possible the bombshell that is Facebook/Instagram (which was mentioned to Butler as a forwarning) that has recently taken place, and or some diabolical stuff regarding CSA that is associated with other media, even the schools; hence why I believe people such as Mel Gibson, will eventually be a media focus in the coming days or weeks.
    Among other things, there is the Non-Institutional stuff that is taking place, which, compared to schools and churches, can often times be as complex to deal with like the social media stuff.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from JW Insider in Missing persons surge, something to be aware of, just a heads up   
    I take things regarding missing persons, even with children, with concern, as do others in the community I am apart of, some of which, in said community go above and beyond to deal with such issues. As I mentioned, back in 2021-2022, when places start to open up, there will be people who will target folks even the youth, physically and or mentally, among said stuff I talk about, this has been taking place recently, there is nearly 30+ children reported as missing in Cleveland during first 2 weeks of May (this factors out those who are not US citizens such as Mexicans or Ukrainians, although in their case it is grave), and it is stated to have been a surge, some believe this has links to human trafficking, which I do not fault them for believing.
    That being said, although it is one area, something of this nature can spread to other areas, so be very careful, as is vigilant out there. Watch yourself and those around you, mainly if you do have folks who can be unaware of such things.
    The below is what I can find for now, regarding this situation, surprisingly, most of media do not even talk about this stuff.
     
     
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    Space Merchant reacted to JW Insider in Can JW Television (digital news) be trusted?   
    It's very difficult to make a presentation without showing bias. The things that are important to one person or group or religion are the thing reported, not the things that are much less important. This presentation above was extra careful to present only things that were factual, but even here a couple of biases slipped in.
    For one thing, the narrator claims by strong implication that no changes to CSA policy were initiated in the wake of the Australian Royal Commission. This isn't true. First of all, Bro Jackson made some excellent points about how responsibility for CSA policies cannot just be one-sided where all blame appears to be put on an organization when the organization itself often has no blame in the matter. Primary blame is always on the perpetrators of the crime, but policies to deal with it include government and law enforcement policies. It's true that many individuals within the organization have not always followed the law, but the law itself is often inconsistent, and frankly, the authorities have not earned public trust.
    The ARC pointed out some of these egregious mistakes and even cover-ups. But the truth is that CSA policies were updated CORRECTLY in the wake of the ARC, and there was also a kind of "public service announcement" that addressed a necessary attitudinal shift among Witnesses: There was to be no more thinking that covering up CSA crimes somehow protected the reputation of the organization. From now on the emphasis was on the fact that all the shame should be centered on the perpetrator. Also, there has been a heightened awareness and sensitivity to the legal issues and more legal personnel have been aiding the organization in this regard.
    I get the impression that these new policies and emphasis have been working. There are fewer and fewer NEW cases being tried against JWs. There are many cases still being tried and pending, but they are nearly always from CSA reports that predate the updated policies.  
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Pudgy in Christian Denominations Chart - Starting w/ the Commentary on JW's   
    @AudreyAnnaNana Unfortunately, the college student is correct. I spoke with you before regarding Excommunication, even pointed out factual and Biblical notions concerning the practice, which was given to the church. Although it is a practice, I argued that some people can abuse the power of church discipline. When church discipline is not used, it creates problems, even Satanic ones, and over the years I mentioned these threats, some of which both @Srecko Sostar and @Witness defended, even going as far as to water down Jesus' Kingship. Although Excommunication cut ties with the church, it does not cut ties with the family, which is often said here, and even recently, and Expelling, before Christianity and during the existence of it, as been something that existed. So it was not created by JWs, the practice predates them. The Bible describes the process of church discipline in several passages. The final step of church discipline is excommunication—a removal from the church. Matthew 18:15–17, seeing that it was already mentioned, Jesus teaches His disciples about excommunication. The Lord details a multi-step approach for responding to sinful offenses in the church community, as for its establishment, we can look to the references, such as Matthew 16 concerning binding and loosening the church.
     
    @Equivocation Who said this? Restorationist Religious leaders do not and or don't ponder on the notion of being like God, equal to him, but yes, it would be a contradiction, a big one. If that was even a true statement, Jehovah's Witnesses would easily be put in the same category as New Aged Christians.
    In one of my debates on here, I brought up marks of True Christians also, as is, of false Christians. Perhaps I should salvage this and make it a thread. In addition to that, The teaching of Christian values and studying the Bible, with oneself and or others, even family members, is core teachings, in fact, this is how I was brought up, learned a lot regarding God and Christ early on.
     
    That being said, bottomline, Excommunication is Biblical, and it has it's origins rooted in the Bible, to state otherwise seems more out of emotion and opinion, so much so, to ignore some notions in the Bible, simply put, it is used to remove wrongdoers.
    The below is just surface level examples of what happens when you do NOT remove wrongdoers from a church, mind you, some of these folks are noted as allies to a few disgruntled EXJWs...
     
    NOTE: There is another where a pastor convinced women to de-robe themselves so he can bathe them, that would be a bit too graphic to even post here, concerning the fact, said video got people censored, but the iceberg goes deeper than that.
    When those who teach bad as good, do not be surprise of what they do to a community, who, had already given themselves up to Babylon, and soon, will be your enemy in the near future.
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