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  1. Here we find TrueTomHarley continuing his usual bluffing that he knows all about evolution/creation when he demonstrably knows nothing. TTH has never read a proper science book on evolution or evolution versus creation. The most he's read is perhaps a Creationist book or two, such as from the Creationist Watchtower Society, and some online Creationist material -- all of which has been debunked by proper scientists over the past 25+ years.

    This, despite my having recommended a dozen or more proper science books to him and other posters.

    Furthermore, TTH has clearly violated "Christian neutrality" by espousing the criminal goals and philosophy of 'Donito Trumpolini', aided by his getting most of his world news from criminally irresponsible "news" media like Fox News, Newsmax and OAN. He has even quoted Fox arch-liar Sean Hannity virtually verbatim.

    TTH thinks he's a great writer, but has never exposed his crappy writing to professionals such as are found in a good college English course. The writing reminds me of the laughable dialogs found in Watchtower "Bible dramas".

    In short, TTH is a fine example of the Dunning-Kruger effect -- someone too ignorant to understand how ignorant he is.

  2. 2 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

    For the life of me, I cannot take this fellow seriously. With a level of abuse (granted, I provoked it here, but it is just so much fun. And this is not really an example of it) that is off the charts, it is virtually the only thing about him worth mentioning.

    I can’t imagine why the Librarian (that old hen) puts up with him, when she has dropped the abuse hammer on others. Poor CC suffers it every time you turn around—not necessarily unjustly, but certainly no worse than this fellow. Even Brother Fullalove (me) triggered an abuse complaint long ago.

    I can only think that when commenters answer him without rebuke, or at least reproof  (most do not make that error) it is because somewhere through probably painful experience in life they have learned what is expedient with abusive men.

    When charlatans like TTH can't successfully attack the message, they attack the messenger.

    Some messages:

    Prove your probability calculations against "evolution", or give pointers to sources that do.

    Prove that your God -- the God of the Bible -- exists.

    Prove that "God is love" is compatible with "God is a monster" -- both of which ideas are proved by multiple Bible passages.

    Of course, you can't do it. You're a fraud and a laughable bluffer.

  3. 2 hours ago, Arauna said:

    You are now a language expert as well  - lol

    No, I'm just good at looking up words in Hebrew-English lexicons. Something you've never done, I'll bet.

    2 hours ago, Arauna said:

    Ephesians 1:9 uses different words for the power - dynameos - and "energeian kratos...... and then the word for spirit is another word: "pneuma which always refers to a force in motion.....

    So what? The Greek still has nothing to do with the modern scientific concept of energy.

    2 hours ago, Arauna said:

    So what I see is a person who thinks of himself as an expert on evolution

    Wrong. I'm just an amateur who refers to experts. As opposed to morons who refer only to religious texts and whack-a-doodle creationists.

    2 hours ago, Arauna said:

    and the bible and knows very little of both because his thinking abilities are not what he himself thinks they are......  I am sure there is a psychological name for that -  but I will not go down to your level of name calling.

    Projection big time.

  4. 3 hours ago, Arauna said:

    You have not proved yet that anything can come from NOTHING.

    Modern science does not speculate that everything came from nothing. Learn some science.

    Where does your God come from? Nothing? Or something?

    3 hours ago, Arauna said:

    You know the basic scientific approach of "cause and effect" ?

    Where did your God come from? What caused him?

    3 hours ago, Arauna said:

     But science goes out of the window with evolution - it boils down to the fact that it is merely a belief, a theory, a religion, a imaginary story which quickly vaporizes under scrutiny of empirical or real science.

    Wrong. The fossil record contains billions of items that show an evolution occurring over more than 3.5 billion years.

    Genetics proves that all creatures are related by descent from earlier ancestors.

    Of course, we all know that you can give no answers. You're a gross hypocrite.

  5. 2 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:
    The outlook wasn’t brilliant for the Homies nine that day;...
    And now the leather-covered sphere came hurtling through the air,
    And Alan stood a-watching it in haughty grandeur there.
    Close by the sturdy batsman the ball unheeded sped—
    “That ain’t my style,” said Alan. “Strike one,” the umpire said.
    You ignorant moron! That was a home run!” Alan said...
    With a smile of [atheist] charity great Alan’s visage shone;
    He stilled the rising tumult; he bade the game go on;
    He signaled to the pitcher, and once more the spheroid flew;
    But Alan still ignored it, and the umpire said, “Strike two.”
    You’re brains are in your ass!” Alan said. “I knocked that one out of the park, too!”

    ...The sneer is [never] gone from Alan’s lip, his teeth are clinched in hate;
    He pounds with cruel violence his bat upon the plate.
    And now the pitcher holds the ball, and now he lets it go,
    And now the air is shattered by the force of Alan’’s blow.
    ...Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
    The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
    And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout;
    But there is no joy in Adhominemville—mighty Alan has struck out.
    I did not!! That was a grand slam home run!! All of my swings are!! What a bunch of clueless imbeciles—all of you. The most stupid, brain dead crowd that I have ever played for!! What a....”


    Still too clueless to realize how clueless you are. There's a name for that.

  6. 13 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

    This reminds me of when I told Alan about all my friends in the circuit, and he dismissed them all as backstabbers. I acknowledged that this was true, and that I was even getting a little tired of it, but not to worry, as I had learned to whirl around like Chuck Norris and take them out with a kick to the head..

    The fact that he cries foul at the hint of a joke, misunderstanding the very nature of life, as he regards this forum as his own personal courtroom and himself as Clarence Darrow, only adds to the ludicrous picture he presents. How can anyone possibly take him seriously?

    Cluelessly irrelevant to our topic as always.

  7. 5 hours ago, Arauna said:

    I see you answered Anna but not the main theme of the bible.  You ignore that which indicates that there was a choice involved with adam and eve and it is about godly rulership and morals...... I guess that was too hard to answer or just dismissed ...... lol. 

     The bible has a logical and consistent theme which is knitted into the fabric of the entire bible - this proves the bible was inspired by a higher entity who had a timeline with milestones.... which has been completed on time.

    Your usual ass-backwards 'logic'. First you have to prove that Adam and Eve existed. Only then can you tell stories about them.

  8. 2 hours ago, xero said:

    I'm reminded of one criminal justice class I took. We got to interview a number of ex-felons. One thing that I learned from this is that people always give the most noble reason they can for their argument, though this is rarely the real argument. Often if you keep probing for their reasons you come down to something like...

    (In answer to 'So why did you stab him?")

    "I didn't like the look on his face."

    You've now slid into completely meaningless garbiage.

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    22 hours ago, AlanF said:
    Why not Brahma? Why not Zeus? Why not the Flying Spaghetti Monster?


    Why not? Because Brahma was born from a golden egg......

    So what? The Bible gives no origin for its Gods.


    Later to  come forth from a lotus that issued from Vishnu’s navel.

    So what?


    Because Zeus was a child born of a couple of Titans, whose father ate five of his other siblings.

    So what? Maybe that really happened. Just as a talking snake convinced a naked woman to eat some fruit and initiate all manner of mayhem.


    Because the flying Spaghetti Monster is the stuff of imagination just like the two previous mythological creatures.

    So is the Bible God. Is that God the epitome of love? Or the epitome of monstrousness? Can't have it both ways. Occam's Razor suggests that the entire concept is imaginary.


    You and I can both come up with our own imaginative being and call him god.

    Precisely the point. That's how the Bible God came to be.


    You obviously believe that the Bible God, as you call him, is also the stuff of imagination.

    I don't merely believe it. I've proved it. Do we have "the God of love"? Or the God of monstrousness? Or neither?


    Considering how imaginative people can be, then the origin of God as presented in the Bible is positively boring.

    The Bible presents no origin of its Gods.


    The description of creation is also boring.

    As well as wrong.


    The only time the narrative gets a little adventurous is when God and the heavens are described in books such as Ezekiel and Revelation.

    Yes, at least as "imaginative" and crazily fantastical as any other myths.


    But then we are told that these are merely visions and symbolic depictions, not that angels really have wings and God rides in a chariot with wheels that have eyes.

    But plenty of other myths are also understood that way. So what? They're all crazy.


    The Bible presents the creator in a completely unique way, compared with the description of all other "gods" in mythological writings. The Bible is also completely unique compared with the gobbledygook of other so called spiritual texts.

    "Unique"? What does that mean in terms of the stories reflecting reality? The Adam and Eve story is unique, but it certainly doesn't reflect reality. Judaism and Christianity and Hinduism and Buddhism and many other religions teach valuable and useful truths, as well as gobbledygook. So what? If they didn't, they'd have died out long ago.

    The point is: do these religions teach only reality?

    Humans as such have existed for two million years, modern humans for some 300,000, and humanoids for something like five million years. Poof! goes the Adam and Eve story.

  10. 8 minutes ago, Arauna said:

    Ah, thanks for correcting me..... I forgot .... Dawkins is a mommy... and he produces milk which make people believe in make-believe.

    Dawkins is irrelevant to the proofs for evolution. It proved long before he wrote a word, and is proved by dozens of other authors.

    You continue, as most JWs do, to believe crap on the basis of someone's supposed authority rather than on facts.

  11. 19 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

    I think it may have been a conspiracy to inject Alan into our happily bickering site so that everyone is tempted to throw up their hands in disgust and leave. 

    It is like a brother’s comment yesterday on how we know there is an earthly resurrection because, plainly, the unrighteous are not going to heaven per Acts 24:15. Whereupon he envisioned that if they were, would it not resemble that mob storming the Capitol building? I haven’t been able to get the image our of my mind since of that same mob of riffraff storming the pearly gates.

    And now along comes Alan, as though with horns and painted face, storming our fine 2nd home of a forum where all of us get to hone our writing skills.

    LOL! What writing skills? To write properly you have to think properly.

    Your skills are like the old joke: When they handed out brains I thought they said trains and I missed mine.

  12. 24 minutes ago, Arauna said:

    I sent you the proof in a video where Dawkins willingly talks about aliens that seeded the earth - lol .... but you pretend it does not exist.... 

    Continuing your lies.

    I told you -- but more importantly SHOWED you -- the ORIGINAL video where Dawkins said no such things. Rather, the film Expelled was carefully edited to take Dawkins' words OUT OF CONTEXT.

    You're such a pathological liar!

    24 minutes ago, Arauna said:

    I watched many of his videos .... and debates... I was not impressed .... so why should i waste my time further to read a book of his....  I will not waste my money?  I rather read about the cell construction and about "Information" which exists in every living thing as well as the  order of the universe - natural law.  This tells me there is a creator! 

    Exactly as I said: you're heavy into confirmation bias.

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