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AlanF

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  1. You've already proved it. Look in the mirror. Bullshit. Give some examples. If you dare. Which you are obviously too stupid to understand. You are apparently going on obsolete Watchtower writings from more than 50 years ago. You're not describing "bible chronology" but Watchtower chronology. And it was thoroughly debunked decades ago. Tell that to the writers of the Insight book. Bullshit. The dating was used to make the predictions, you moron! So? LOL! Such abysmal ignorance.
  2. Such a liar! I accept what the Insight book says as regards coming up with 539. You've explicitly rejected it. I don't think you want me to respond to that in kind. And of course, as JW Insider has pointed out, and the Insight book confirms, the Olympiads are in no way as reliable as the consilience of secular data, data ranging from what the Insight book describes to the many lunar eclipses recorded in such tablets as JW Insider has detailed. Your crippled mind is simply not up to the task of chewing on this rocket science. Give it up!
  3. You honestly think that 3 million people wandering around in a desert for 40 years would leave ZERO EVIDENCE? Not even bits of clothing, lost jewelry, tools, skeletons of about 2 million cadavers? Human droppings are the least of the zero evidence. So what? Almost no one disputes that something pretty much unknown outside "Bible history" was going on then. But not a huge Exodus of some 3 million people. I've read all manner of stuff for and against. You obviously have not read anything outside of Fundamentalist literature -- much like your Young-Earth Creationist sources.
  4. I've rarely seen anyone so clueless who could manage to work a computer keyboard and not stub a toe. Once again, you moron: THERE ARE NO BIBLICAL DATES WITHOUT FIRST HAVING SECULAR DATES. And you've not given any such "biblical dates", nor evidence for what you think they are.
  5. Such is the effect of Dunning-Kruger at work. Thinking is HARD WORK. See? This statement shows how abysmally stupid you are. I never said what you claim -- I said that there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER of 40 years of Israelite wanderings in Sinai -- not EVEN poop. Do you know what the word "even" means? And of course, you STILL can't come up with any evidence. Not even excuses. You just ignore the problem. Complete nonsense. You again prove that you've read nothing about the subject outside of Young-Earth Creationist and Watchtower publications.
  6. Continuing clueless: There are no "bible chronological dates" without first attaching one of the Bible's relative chronologies to a secular date. Why do you think the Insight book discusses why 539 BCE is a solidly established date?
  7. He seems to be suffering from two serious defects: a mind damaged by JWism, and the biggest case of Dunning-Kruger effect I've ever seen.
  8. Talk about half-baked! What do you think the conspiracy theories you peddle are? And you still can't figure out how 3 million Israelites left no traces in Sinai. Or why you worship "the God of love" who is also a horrendus, murderous monster, sitting back and watching his creatures tear each other to bits. And you think to make pronouncements upon rocket-science subjects like ancient chronology. LOL! Such is the self-created Orwellian mind of an arrogant JW.
  9. It's painfully obvious that Arauna, and most JW apologists, are entirely clueless about such things. All they know is that some words are written in some Watchtower publication and that they're supposed to believe and defend those words. They'd do the same if the words were "the moon is made of Stilton cheese". Arauna will NOT answer you in any coherent way.
  10. Arauna said: What the f***? The point is that a number of tablets -- business or otherwise -- were CLEARLY dated to Cyrus' ACCESSION year. And your precious Watchtower Mommy even admits to all of this. Why do you keep kicking against the goads? You were NOT the first to say this. This has been known and discussed for hundreds of years. This is a prime example of how morons so often turn their own sins back on their critics. Totally clueless yet again. Only a small fraction of people -- and rarely qualified scientists -- have this idiotic view. Most of the nutjobs who promote it do so on the basis of their narrow political agendas -- NOT SCIENCE. Again this is a product of your conspiracy theory mentality. LOL! Clueless. NO children are being "doctored" in this way. Only consenting adults or near-adults are. From what planet do you get your news? Oh yeah: Fox "News" or its European equivalent. Not happening. But what do you think religious cults like the JWs do? Most people who look carefully at the JW organization quickly realize that it's pretty much like the Ingsoc society described in George Orwell's 1948 novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. And more contemporarily, North Korea. Precisely describing JW/Watchtower leaders pretty much for 140 years. True, but you keep forgetting: this is due to POLITICS, not science. Science can, and has been, horribly subverted by politicians, but that does not mean that science is always the handmaiden of corrupt politicians. Ah. In other words, the fact that I have not bought into your whack-a-doodle conspiracy theories means that I'm clueless about what's really going on. No, you moron. Note that I said "EVEN bits of poop". That means the Israelites left NO evidence whatsoever -- NOT EVEN little bits of poop. Naturally you fail to think clearly about this. The Sinai region is extremely dry, as is the rest of Egypt. Human bodies buried in the sand sometimes turn into natural mummies. Poop from various animals sometimes turns into what is called "coprolites" -- fossilized poop. This happens in all dry places. See https://www.nps.gov/articles/chcupackrat.htm for just one example. So in 40 years of pooping by 3 million people, a few poop holes would surely be preserved. But 3 million people would necessarily leave far more traces than just poop. Are you really so deliberately unimaginative that this needs to be explained to you? Africa has far more varied environments than just the humid Congo. Egypt is among the driest places on earth. If rat middens containing rat poop can last 10,000 years, then human burial pits containing human poop can last 3,000 years. Sure. But preservation demonstrably happens in extremely dry regions. And again, we're not just talking about traces of poop, but traces of everything that humans would leave in 40 years of wandering in a dry wilderness. I suppose this is supposed to some sort of answer to my challenge about the God of love creating massive suffering in the animal kingdom lasting more than half a billion years. Are you really so dense as to not understand that, if Adam and Eve did their thing some 6,000 years ago, that has nothing whatsoever to do with the half-billion years of life that went before them? Then by all means, explain the half-billion years of suffering before "sin entered into the world". Are you afraid of "giving a witness for the faith within you"? Or just confident that you haven't a clue?
  11. César Chávez posted his usual unformatted gobble-de-goop: Like his bumbling compatriot ScholarJW, Chávez is simply too stupid to give a proper reference, which should be to the article "The Babylonian Calendar and the Chronology of the Last Kings of Judah", in the journal Biblica, Vol. 72, No. 3 (1991), pp. 367-378 (12 pages), Published by Peeters Publishers and now available from JSTOR ( https://www.jstor.org/stable/42611193?read-now=1&refreqid=excelsior%3A25078c8227a49e6928f67edf364e51ae&seq=7#page_scan_tab_contents ). This is behind a paywall; tough toenails. Instead of writing some sort of introductory material as a lead-in to a journal quotation, this moron simply posts a chunk of the article, hanging as it were, in the air. So readers haven't a clue about what the purpose of the quotation is. The quotation just sits there, with readers wondering, "What the f***?". Such is the mentality of too many JW apologists. So here we have Chávez's disembodied quotation: Then Chávez makes his typical gobble-de-goop comment: But the scholar Gershon Galil that Chávez quoted has much more significant things to say -- things that completely contradict Watchtower chronology. According to that Watchtower nonsense, Jerusalem was captured and king Jehoiachin taken captive to Babylon in 617 BCE. But here is what Galil had to say on page 373 of his article: << We will now turn our attention to the seventh year of Nebuchadnezzar. It can be definitely established that this year was intercalated and that the intercalated month was Ululu. Similarly, 2 Adar (in the Babylonian calendar) fell in this year on March 16, 597, and 1 Nisan (in the Babylonian calendar) in the eighth year of Nebuchadnezzar fell on April 13, 597 [Gershon here references Parker and Dubberstein p. 27]. >> Of course, this is exactly according to modern standard Neo-Babylonian chronology. As I and others showed above, this date is determined by several historical records, including two lunar eclipses occurring in 621 and 568 BCE, plus Babylonian cuneiform tablets. So once again we see a JW apologist, César Chávez, vaguely referring to a scholarly article that he does not understand, and missing the most important point: the article clobbers Watchtower chronology. After this nonsensical post, we have the perennially clueless Arauna high-fiving this moron: Arauna: Well said. This is what I was saying above. That is why I stick to a date which can be proven beyond reasonable doubt: 530 BCE. Death of Cyrus.
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