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  1. James he is the creator of the Law...without him no law....no creation...no mankind... as such he can decide who’s life to end and who’s not to because they are not following his Laws. Thus the lawmaker has the right to take a life without it being classified as murder, You yourself have used many words to ask a question which really as someone pointed out to you... answered yourself...which leaves me laughing at myself for being so crazy to reply to this thread...but it is a question that others have asked so I’ve gleaned from others here on how to help someone who has the same question. Job 37:23 Understanding the Almighty is beyond our reach He is great in Power and he never violates his justice and abundant righteousness. But you already knew all this didn’t you.
  2. They have brother...and it shouldn’t require to much insight to see that...perhaps you may need to rephrase the question
  3. I think I know what your trying to say..but perhaps I’ve got it wrong.... I may very well have this wrong but Jehovah is in actual fact engaged in warfare now. Revelation 12:7then war broke out in heaven and Michael and his angels fought against the dragon and his angels. He was forced Into a state of warfare since Satan rebelled. Joshua 5:13,14 Identifies Michael as his Prince of Jehovah’s army....and also ... when the Israelites came out of Egypt they marched out in Military formation. even when the angel stood guard at the Garden of Eden ..he used a flaming sword ( weapon of war ) to block their re entering warfare carried out by Jehovah is righteous .. warfare carried out by mere man for mans ruler ship over man is not righteous nor condoned by him, he would still consider that murder...as all warfare is governed and caused by his enemy Satan a man slayer And the ruler of the world at this time. He is only tolerating mans warfare or allowing it because it is not his appointed time.... He uses humans as earthly agents to achieve his plan...when it suits him...and that involves warfare at times because Satan is using man to fight his war against Jehovah. Proverbs 16:4,,,Jehovah has made everything work for his purpose even the wicked for the day of disaster. At this present time Satan is the Prince of air and ruler of this world and he has chosen to fight by warfare.....he chose the weapon...not Jehovah . All warfare is murder unless it has been instructed to be carried out via the Chief of His Armies Michael. Jehovah would never condone warfare amongst men,..and from what I have read he would consider all of those deaths a unwarranted evil murder..... I cannot find anything in the scriptures at this stage to suggest otherwise...but by all means if I’m wrong please correct me....it’s a interesting question and it’s deeper than most of us realize. Basically all those Jehovah instructed to be put to the sword were allowed hundreds of years to change and he allowed them to go to the fullness of their error....they had become irredeemable in his eyes...and hurting his people and name and his plan....and they would NEVER change.
  4. Rubbish...leave him alone....he’s brutally honest...yeah at times he might say something that makes you wince a bit...probably because there was an element of truth in his words. jehovahs people down thru time have in the most part been a disappointment to him. 1Cor 10Now I want you to know brothers that our forefathers were all under the cloud and all passed thru the sea and all got baptised into Moses by means of the cloud and of the sea and all ate the same spiritual food and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they used to drink from the same spiritual rock that followed them and that rock meant the Christ.NEVERTHELESS God was not pleased with MOST OF THEM...for they were struck down in the wilderness. you honestly think we are any different to the Israelites of old....we are not! those men who refused to go into the land of Canaan because they felt they appeared as grasshoppers .... were the spiritual leaders of that time...they were not just the little Israelite. today is no different ...we are no different...we think we are but we are not. james has a better grasp on reality than you my brother ....he’s been beaten up...but he is still standing amongst Gods people....so I suggest you leave him alone as he’s very valuable to Jesus...... as valuable as that prostitute that the apostles first looked down on 😉
  5. Not sure if I’m writing in the right place as it’s been a while.

    but I’m responding to witness.who had a question put to him as to what he would do to correct or help the .org.

    he gave admirable thoughts...which I’m sure all of us would back up.

    The major thing that is escaping your notice Witness...is nothing you or any one else here could improve on anything really...

    For what is escaping your notice..,is never in the history of Jehovah having a people on this earth have they ever been able to do things to his satisfaction or right,

    Its the pattern constantly laid down in the history of the scriptures.

    the Israelites became worse than the nations around them...BUT he still considered them his people even tho severely disciplining them.

    the Jewish syste, also became corrupted and self righteous ...and thus received divine harsh punishment...

    Paul once again said wolves in sheep’s clothing would enter Into the cong and would treat the sheep harshly..and infact even whilst still alive he stated the man of lawlessness was already at work...

    Jehovah never ever wanted to send judges and prophets...he did that because they would not listen to or work out when their God was taking his spirit away from them...hence he sent men forward to actually communicate with them.

    he did not want them to have Kings as they would treat them harshly and tax them heavily...this life under them would be a burden...

    Our  God knows than no man or group of men or faithful and discreet slave....of whom are yet to be judged as such...can ever do What his people in the past has never been able to achieve .

    so it’s no good leaving....or thinking ANYONE can do better...because you are not learning the lesson that Jehovah is trying to teach you...

    Moses sinned....David sinned..Aaron sinned...Saul sinned..Peter denied Christ three times and they all fled and abandoned him...

    Jehovah’ is showing us at this time...NO ONE can do it right or will do it right...and we all need to humble ourselves and realise that it’s only when he returns in his appointed time....that most of us may realise that...

    we are no different that the Israelites...pigheaded stiff necked lot....or like the Pharisees...self righteous and pious..thinking we can do better"....well history has shown that won’t work nor was ever meant to work,,,,

    so we need to put up with and develop the attitude of Symon the priest and just get on with our business and have our peace with Jehovah...and that witness....is where endurance comes in...and patience...and a faith that Our God will rescue us in these confusing times.

    Because you to would mess up witness.....every single one of us here would....

     

     

     

  6. Well tho I understand your reasoning I don’t agree with it...it would be better for you to stay and be discreet in aiding where you feel the need....just as Jesus said there would always be poor amongst us...I would also like to apologise because I do see active witnesses constantly posting laughs after many people’s comments....that’s just immature and rude...we dont laugh at people on the doors...so we shouldn’t here... but you are going down a wrong track and I know you don’t beleive that...it’s sad..and so unnecessary....but I guess others have tried to help you see this so I’ll leave of now... just imagine if you had been around when there were temple prostitutes....yet Jehovah still used that system and allowed that for a Time being ....
  7. At a circuit assembly the Bethel brother stated that a lot of elders had to learn to yield to each other as many were irritating each other and even leaving congs to attend others....they had to learn to be wronged ..and act with graciousness......for the sake of peace I will yield. ....even tho I’m the lowly older sister ..
  8. You could help by staying....and just being there for ones who are hurting...I’ve heard good solid brothers tell it like it is.....it’s refreshing and up building .....perhaps organization isnt the best word to use ..I dont know when that was introduced....Russell didn’t introduce it ....I think of us as a big worldwide congregation...just like a huge family with all its troubles and problems ..tears and joys and smiles... i remember a brother once drew a line on the board...it started high and as the line travelled across the board it went into a downward spiral ....he said...that was the world.."he then asked us...how do you think Jehovah’s people are travelling.....he then drew a line..above the worlds declining line ....but it to went into a spiral downward...it remained above the worlds spiraling...but we still went down..just at a slower pace to that of the world. it was a sobering thought for all of us.....don’t expect too much from any of us....it really boils down to just you and Jehovah....
  9. I am very sorry to hear this John....I understand your reasoning but I would heavily ask you to consider the examples of Anna the prophetess and Simeon the Preist.....they lived amongst a lot of evil doings at the temple....yet they stayed and carried on with what they knew was required by them from Jehovah... you are missing a lot of genuine love experienced among the brothers and sisters,,,having said that even brothers that give talks from the platform have stated that they are aware the love of the brotherhood Is cooling off.....but there is still a lot to be found... John if you seen the apostles sitting at a table would you not be eager to join them...but would you turn your back on them if you seen Judas sitting there with full knowledge about him...would you turn away from the good men for the sake of one bad man... I wish you the best and I hope one day you can see where you learnt all about Jehovah’s kingdom and the wonderful hope that lies ahead...but you are being tested now...after all John....we serve Jehovah and not the watchtower.... but the watchtower/society is not perfect...we will always have errors and problems because ...well for many reasons.. but try for just a day...to look at the positives that Jehovah has fed us thru them....and be like Simeon and go about your business...
  10. Okay Billy the kid...let me make one thing clear to you...I have not overlooked the massive amount of work the society has done in educating all about this problem...in fact I use it.......you are very self righteous and judgmental...and I can only assume still a bit of a kid...where you and I are different is I listen to these so called disgruntled women....and men.....who have been raped ......I cannot even beleive you made such a clearly chauvinistic comment...but that does show your immaturity..so I’m giving you some leeway to leave your short pants you are wearing and will offer you patience to grow Into long pants ..thus show a bit of emotional maturity... Many are confused and have doubts....we need to speak consolingly to those who have doubts....I can see on this thread there are a lot of troublemakers who will not listen to reason...they are here to cause division and trouble....but you do not help a lot as you come over rather pious...and self righteous......and that’s only gives them fuel brother... I advocate for trying to understand both sides of the coin..but always with Jehovah’s love and compassion...but there does come time where one has To draw a line in the sand With out right trouble makers. you have stated some good points in your comment brother...but you don’t have it all correct either..and nor do I....but at least I know that... Those disgruntled women were once little girls who were raped...and angry men were little boys who were once raped...some over long periods of time... They are in EVERY religion and organization world wide...most don’t even come to the attention of our elders... I Thess 4,,,is good advice,,,for both of us ..so let us both stop continting with this activism.
  11. It is my understanding that they do it privately ...perhaps you could keep your granddaughters by your side at the meetings ...you also have a duty of care...
  12. I think you have misunderstood my question brother...I just dont understand why Brother Jackson advised the Australian Government to make it mandatory in every state to report....why don’t we just do that ourselves..worldwide... I also think we should be allowed to ask such honest question without being accused of engaging in conspiracy theories... I totally back you as far as the great deceiver being at work on the internet..causing divisions and doubts amongs Jehovah’s people...there is no forum on the internet that is safe...
  13. But why do we need the law of the land to tell us to do the right thing?
  14. Pearl has relayed to me personaly that she does not study the Bible as she does not have time..when some one writes to her and asks a question..she sits at the table with pen and paper and writes....she stated she does not even know what she has written a lot of the time...until she reads it. Pearl is a kind woman..but she has been deceived and is promoting teachings inspired of demons... She has built her own Golden calf And has her own following....many of these ex witnesses ...are either disfellowshipped or leave on their own accord...some have been genuinely hurt...others become puffed up with pride and so many become annoited...and have their own beliefs and teachings....and following .. These ones live on forums and visit them all....trying to save witnesses...
  15. Anyone who quotes pearl Doxcey as you have done ..is beyond understandimg the big picture or Jehovah’s plan...sorry but I view you as a true apostate ...end of conversation !

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